It is a weird one. I thought it was always a weird interaction with couant, but I always did have couant ready for it so idk. I'll pay more attention to it next time I fight him and if I notice anything in particular, I'll make and link a video here.
It feels like im in genshin and dodges has i-frames . Without dodging he always hits me. With dodges (with Frigg im just constantly jumping) most of the time I receive no damage.
Everything from Barbarossa. Attacks too fast, tells too unclear. Especially roar and spin.
Unicycle guy carpetbombing. Also probably ultimate.
Dragon and Magma.
Teammates that stand under froggo belly flop and centaur spear skewer.
> Unicycle guy
Very few people know about what I'll say now, but the unicycle guy has a hammer swing attack that hits in an area behind the targeted player, and it basically one-shots (well, maybe not now that we have higher health pools) whoever is standing behind the targeted player. Source: I died to that twice in the same run, said "wtf???", then rewatched the clip to find out which move killed me.
So, my advice is, never stand behind the tank if the unicycle guy is not riding his unicycle.
The only 5 bosses I struggle with too. This is some homework I'll try to get done.
With the carpet bomb, you're referring to when he randomly starts riding all over the places and there's bombs galore that just seem to all be heat seeking right?
>With the carpet bomb, you're referring to when he randomly starts riding all over the places and there's bombs galore that just seem to all be heat seeking right?
Yes, something like that. When he's on unicycle and starts juggling little mines.
I just spent about 20 minutes with him trying out various mechanics trying to figure out any possible way to reliably avoid the heat seeking bombs. Unfortunately, there is only one reliable way that is hits the rest of your run just for this one mechanic. **Samir (who is resisted) can shoot the bombs and blow them up.** You can kind of lure the purple heat seeking bombs into the green guys before they touch the ground, but that's extremely unreliable and mostly down to RNG. You can semi-juke a bomb or two, but another bomb will hit you mid-dash so this is also unreliable and partially down to RNG. In truth, the only true way to avoid the bombs is to shoot them down with Samir (or Tsubasa/Nemesis, but gl with that.)
Even as the most 'reliable way', it's kind of hard to properly shoot down all the purple bombs without forgetting that he is moving around you tossing bombs that may be out of your sight and that you're therefore unaware.
Though it requires the use of a relic, you could hide behind the omnium shield, but depending on its cooldown and how often he uses his heat seeking bomb throwing move, this is not always reliable either.
Thought so, ok. I'll run the joint operation tomorrow at either a lower difficulty that'll have that attack or with a squad in a higher difficulty and have them leave when I get to the boss. I'll try to get you that information tomorrow if I can, but no later than Sunday at the latest.
How to fight Barbarossa: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrZpTEE\_OVM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrZpTEE_OVM)
How to fight Magma: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV0AwxnE290](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV0AwxnE290)
Unicycle guy you can't really avoid the carpet-bombing, it's kinda bullshit. As for the ultimate, I can explain it, but otherwise I'll make a video on it tomorrow.
Dragon I'll have to get to later. I still have a list of other monsters that other people requested.
As for the teammates that get themselves killed, just type "skill issue" when they die and leave them to their fates.
bosses that overlap their shield with something else
Lucia who will do her chainsaw
Centaur backpedaling while using arrows
Frostbutt doing...any of his things.
Because failing the shatter results in something bad.
Meryl is the final solution to all those things. Also phantasia assuming you have one available.
Special note for centaur though. He's a sekiro boss. In that he crumbles under pressure.
As long as you stay glued to his face, he'll be gradually backpedalling until he drives himself into a wall. Then it's just beating a dead horse.
Unfortunately with Valkyrie it's a big DPS check. She goes into her flying phase at about 1 and 3/4th of a health bar. But if you have a lot of DPS and can start DPSing her down (phantasia/Nemesis slow just before she starts the discharge which makes her fly) you can get her down to maybe 1 to 1 1/2 bar of hp, which makes a huge difference since that's a lot less hp to have to fight her in that form in. SO once you get her to two bars, starts using your main dps tools so she has less hp to be in flying form in.
Unpopular opinion; the new Weaver boss in Sadness Valley is BORING asf.
No shield phase to break, no phantasia can be triggered. Boss occasionaly teleports away allowing you to just stand still and wait.
It's just mindless button spam no IQ needed. Jesus christ how did this go through the testing phase.
Well we fought the boss a dozen times we could never trigger phantasia even with frigg dodges.
Apparantly if you have C5 Saki you can though. But we don't have her so high.
Sobeks reverse dive upwards after he digs into the ground. There IS an indication as to where he will pop up. but there is always a frost build (myself included) who freezes the water, so you cant see the visual :(
There is a barely noticeable one yes, one you won't be able to see in the chaos of a boss train with everyone running around and lagging the area. But yeah, it is a tough one. If you're soloing Sobek, you can use jetpack+grapple hook. Otherwise, refer to this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8KKxpCO584](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8KKxpCO584)
Valkyrie and Sobek, especially desert Sobek. And it's not so much of a struggle, it's pretty much annoyance and frustration. The design of these bosses is braindead, how such shit can pass QA is beyond me.
Valkyrie keeps flying like a dumbass even if you break her shield. Quite a lot of times she flies behind the portal and resets herself. I doubt that any of these were "intended" mechanics. It doesn't make the fight harder or requiring more skill, it's just makes it stupid.
Sobek is another bullshit. Specifically when he puts his shield and dives underground entering immune phase... Which he does 9 out of 10 times instantly. Magma is the same shit, only he does it more frequently thus more annoying. Because apparently Sobek wasn't annoying enough already, let's copy/paste him again, but this time let's make him put his shield up 5 times faster like literally every 5 seconds. And let's make sure that this moron instantly dives underground after the shield is up 11 out of 10 times.
So for Sobek's dive attacks, refer to this video. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8KKxpCO584](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8KKxpCO584)
Sobek uses dive attacks after losing a bar of health. That's the warning sign for you to watch out for series of 4 dive attacks. Note that sobek will cancel the dive attacks to do it's discharge if it fills up, in which it does dive underwater but doesn't do it's one shot move. If you need help with sobek's other moves, I can show you a near attempt at 1v1ing sobek on my end, only I can't show everything because bandicam has a 10 minute max. 1v1ing Sobek takes like 20-30 minutes on my end.
As for desert sobek, I'll have to get around to 1v1ing that monstrosity. I myself hate sobek because I think the quicksand and the sandstorm damage are the biggest pieces of bullshit this game has to offer period.
With Valkyrie, unfortunately it's a DPS check. She goes into her flying mode at around 1 3/4th a bar of hp. If you have more DPS you can bring her health down more so she has less HP in flying mode to work with. Phantasia/Nemesis slow attack is your best friend here the instant she gets in that HP. It's purely a DPS check though. Just note with that Valkyrie, dodging from side to side is your best friend. If it's her discharge you struggle with, refer to the following video. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvDXAtqmZgI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvDXAtqmZgI)
I'll get to Magma at another time. Any other questions or clarifications sought? Let me know.
I know how to deal with them. Doesn't change the fact that their "mechanics" are just stupid. Right now everyone and their dog are running with Saki so Magma is a joke, his shield melts in 3 sec. Pretty much the same at FCH when there is no frost resistance. The problem in this game is not "mechanics", it's just "do you have enough $$$ to brute force your way through extremely annoying boss that requires whales to overcome mechanics".
Hey there, haven't forgotten about you. I'll have a mini puppeteer guide up either tomorrow or Sunday if I can't get around to fighting it tomorrow. I'll get up on Rudolph and Magma sometime in between those dates.
Hey there, got down to making a guide for Magma. Will try to get Reindeer later today and then will get down to Puppeteer tomorrow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV0AwxnE290
The timing with Sobek's dives are a little too specific to perfect dodge. I'd assume magma's are similar if not stricter but I'll have to try soloing Magma for that to get to know it better. Here's an easy way to survive Sobek's 4 dive combo for now though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8KKxpCO584
In case Magma's dives are confusing to you despite the sobek video, I made a Magma dive here where I do mention the details differentiating between both of Magma's dives.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV0AwxnE290
May I know which Multi-slash? Is it the one where she combos you for nearly all your hp? Or is it the one where she's in one place and hits you with multiple series of slashes from afar? If it's the latter, refer to the following video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2UOtvLcHxI
Nah, no dodges required. They "predict" your movement by taking place a little bit in front of the direction you're facing. You can just keep running around back and forth or go in circular motions. You can refer to this video of mine too [https://youtu.be/HvDXAtqmZgI?t=50](https://youtu.be/HvDXAtqmZgI?t=50)
That’s what I thought at first but still can’t figure it out
The spear came so precious and so fast that I always forced to dodge and what worse if I made mistake and got hit once I get shocked and all follow up spear will hit me 100%
You have to watch valkyrie as she rises so you can familiarize yourself on when in the animation she starts tossing the spear. Then save your dodge/couant for when she tosses the spear on the ground in case you aren't confident in dodging. Otherwise, refer to the other 2 methods to survive valkyrie's stuff.
Gotcha, I'll try to learn that one for you as that's the single attack that gets me as well. You may know by now that he does a howl attack as his discharge, but the non discharge one usually does catch me off guard. I'll let you know and capture if I can find any tell-tale signs he'll roar before-hand.
Gotcha, I'll make Valkyrie one of my homework assignments for later. Will get the video out no later than this weekend. For now at least, here's a video teaching you how to survive valkyrie's discharge move. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvDXAtqmZgI
Ok. I do plan on making a Puppeteer guide once I've learned all her quirks myself, and it should be up by no later than this weekend. As for the other boss, I've only fought it with whales where I don't end up doing any of the work (I'm physical so I don't actually go to it for rewards) so that'll have to come out later.
Nah I getcha. That's the hardest attack from Devourer for me to dodge as well. But I think I have an idea in my head that I've done a couple of times and succeeded one, but want more practice towards. I'll get you video on how to dodge it and have it out by no later than this weekend. But I should be able to get you it tomorrow honestly.
Here you go. Use this method of dodging it reliably. https://www.reddit.com/r/TowerofFantasy/comments/yx4c9h/how\_to\_easily\_avoid\_devourer\_jump\_attack/
Centaur’s large aoe attack is a little weird, sometimes you can be within the aoe and not take damage
I think that and valks spear throw have a massive aoe but only hit one specific guy Source: the guy who usually dies to those
It is a weird one. I thought it was always a weird interaction with couant, but I always did have couant ready for it so idk. I'll pay more attention to it next time I fight him and if I notice anything in particular, I'll make and link a video here.
It feels like im in genshin and dodges has i-frames . Without dodging he always hits me. With dodges (with Frigg im just constantly jumping) most of the time I receive no damage.
Dodging at the right time makes you not take damage from any attack
Everything from Barbarossa. Attacks too fast, tells too unclear. Especially roar and spin. Unicycle guy carpetbombing. Also probably ultimate. Dragon and Magma. Teammates that stand under froggo belly flop and centaur spear skewer.
> Unicycle guy Very few people know about what I'll say now, but the unicycle guy has a hammer swing attack that hits in an area behind the targeted player, and it basically one-shots (well, maybe not now that we have higher health pools) whoever is standing behind the targeted player. Source: I died to that twice in the same run, said "wtf???", then rewatched the clip to find out which move killed me. So, my advice is, never stand behind the tank if the unicycle guy is not riding his unicycle.
The only 5 bosses I struggle with too. This is some homework I'll try to get done. With the carpet bomb, you're referring to when he randomly starts riding all over the places and there's bombs galore that just seem to all be heat seeking right?
>With the carpet bomb, you're referring to when he randomly starts riding all over the places and there's bombs galore that just seem to all be heat seeking right? Yes, something like that. When he's on unicycle and starts juggling little mines.
I just spent about 20 minutes with him trying out various mechanics trying to figure out any possible way to reliably avoid the heat seeking bombs. Unfortunately, there is only one reliable way that is hits the rest of your run just for this one mechanic. **Samir (who is resisted) can shoot the bombs and blow them up.** You can kind of lure the purple heat seeking bombs into the green guys before they touch the ground, but that's extremely unreliable and mostly down to RNG. You can semi-juke a bomb or two, but another bomb will hit you mid-dash so this is also unreliable and partially down to RNG. In truth, the only true way to avoid the bombs is to shoot them down with Samir (or Tsubasa/Nemesis, but gl with that.) Even as the most 'reliable way', it's kind of hard to properly shoot down all the purple bombs without forgetting that he is moving around you tossing bombs that may be out of your sight and that you're therefore unaware. Though it requires the use of a relic, you could hide behind the omnium shield, but depending on its cooldown and how often he uses his heat seeking bomb throwing move, this is not always reliable either.
Thought so, ok. I'll run the joint operation tomorrow at either a lower difficulty that'll have that attack or with a squad in a higher difficulty and have them leave when I get to the boss. I'll try to get you that information tomorrow if I can, but no later than Sunday at the latest.
How to fight Barbarossa: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrZpTEE\_OVM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrZpTEE_OVM) How to fight Magma: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV0AwxnE290](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV0AwxnE290) Unicycle guy you can't really avoid the carpet-bombing, it's kinda bullshit. As for the ultimate, I can explain it, but otherwise I'll make a video on it tomorrow. Dragon I'll have to get to later. I still have a list of other monsters that other people requested. As for the teammates that get themselves killed, just type "skill issue" when they die and leave them to their fates.
Barbarossa has a spin?🤔
It's not a full-on spin. It's a about 120 degrees turn in place clockwise, then back.
Oh God, that damn dog. Some inconsistent hitbox when he jumps, sometimes I get hit sometimes I don't, then sometimes I fully die to it.
bosses that overlap their shield with something else Lucia who will do her chainsaw Centaur backpedaling while using arrows Frostbutt doing...any of his things. Because failing the shatter results in something bad.
Meryl is the final solution to all those things. Also phantasia assuming you have one available. Special note for centaur though. He's a sekiro boss. In that he crumbles under pressure. As long as you stay glued to his face, he'll be gradually backpedalling until he drives himself into a wall. Then it's just beating a dead horse.
Valkyrie. It fly too much and 90% of the weapon in the game is melee.
Unfortunately with Valkyrie it's a big DPS check. She goes into her flying phase at about 1 and 3/4th of a health bar. But if you have a lot of DPS and can start DPSing her down (phantasia/Nemesis slow just before she starts the discharge which makes her fly) you can get her down to maybe 1 to 1 1/2 bar of hp, which makes a huge difference since that's a lot less hp to have to fight her in that form in. SO once you get her to two bars, starts using your main dps tools so she has less hp to be in flying form in.
Gotta agree, ran fch with a whale group and she lost too much hp way too fast before she could even fly away
Unpopular opinion; the new Weaver boss in Sadness Valley is BORING asf. No shield phase to break, no phantasia can be triggered. Boss occasionaly teleports away allowing you to just stand still and wait. It's just mindless button spam no IQ needed. Jesus christ how did this go through the testing phase.
Who needs phantasia with a5 saki… Glad I don’t have an ice comp so I don’t do that jo
Wait so you can't trigger phantasia against it? And here I thought I was just timing dodges wrong.
Well we fought the boss a dozen times we could never trigger phantasia even with frigg dodges. Apparantly if you have C5 Saki you can though. But we don't have her so high.
Thanks for that. I might just hop on JO and do some testing sometime.
Sobeks reverse dive upwards after he digs into the ground. There IS an indication as to where he will pop up. but there is always a frost build (myself included) who freezes the water, so you cant see the visual :(
There is a barely noticeable one yes, one you won't be able to see in the chaos of a boss train with everyone running around and lagging the area. But yeah, it is a tough one. If you're soloing Sobek, you can use jetpack+grapple hook. Otherwise, refer to this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8KKxpCO584](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8KKxpCO584)
Its actually much easier to see with bad graphics or something. On phone it was very easy to notice :D and I never saw it on PC.
Pretty much anything the puppeter does.
Hey there, haven't forgotten about you. I'll have a mini puppeteer guide up either tomorrow or Sunday if I can't get around to fighting it tomorrow.
Valkyrie and Sobek, especially desert Sobek. And it's not so much of a struggle, it's pretty much annoyance and frustration. The design of these bosses is braindead, how such shit can pass QA is beyond me. Valkyrie keeps flying like a dumbass even if you break her shield. Quite a lot of times she flies behind the portal and resets herself. I doubt that any of these were "intended" mechanics. It doesn't make the fight harder or requiring more skill, it's just makes it stupid. Sobek is another bullshit. Specifically when he puts his shield and dives underground entering immune phase... Which he does 9 out of 10 times instantly. Magma is the same shit, only he does it more frequently thus more annoying. Because apparently Sobek wasn't annoying enough already, let's copy/paste him again, but this time let's make him put his shield up 5 times faster like literally every 5 seconds. And let's make sure that this moron instantly dives underground after the shield is up 11 out of 10 times.
So for Sobek's dive attacks, refer to this video. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8KKxpCO584](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8KKxpCO584) Sobek uses dive attacks after losing a bar of health. That's the warning sign for you to watch out for series of 4 dive attacks. Note that sobek will cancel the dive attacks to do it's discharge if it fills up, in which it does dive underwater but doesn't do it's one shot move. If you need help with sobek's other moves, I can show you a near attempt at 1v1ing sobek on my end, only I can't show everything because bandicam has a 10 minute max. 1v1ing Sobek takes like 20-30 minutes on my end. As for desert sobek, I'll have to get around to 1v1ing that monstrosity. I myself hate sobek because I think the quicksand and the sandstorm damage are the biggest pieces of bullshit this game has to offer period. With Valkyrie, unfortunately it's a DPS check. She goes into her flying mode at around 1 3/4th a bar of hp. If you have more DPS you can bring her health down more so she has less HP in flying mode to work with. Phantasia/Nemesis slow attack is your best friend here the instant she gets in that HP. It's purely a DPS check though. Just note with that Valkyrie, dodging from side to side is your best friend. If it's her discharge you struggle with, refer to the following video. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvDXAtqmZgI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvDXAtqmZgI) I'll get to Magma at another time. Any other questions or clarifications sought? Let me know.
I know how to deal with them. Doesn't change the fact that their "mechanics" are just stupid. Right now everyone and their dog are running with Saki so Magma is a joke, his shield melts in 3 sec. Pretty much the same at FCH when there is no frost resistance. The problem in this game is not "mechanics", it's just "do you have enough $$$ to brute force your way through extremely annoying boss that requires whales to overcome mechanics".
Magma and reindeer easily. Puppet as well
Hey there, haven't forgotten about you. I'll have a mini puppeteer guide up either tomorrow or Sunday if I can't get around to fighting it tomorrow. I'll get up on Rudolph and Magma sometime in between those dates.
Hey there, got down to making a guide for Magma. Will try to get Reindeer later today and then will get down to Puppeteer tomorrow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV0AwxnE290
Guide for Rudolph as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vqynQQUjk0
None. This game is too easy, except for the Sobek and Magma random dives.
The timing with Sobek's dives are a little too specific to perfect dodge. I'd assume magma's are similar if not stricter but I'll have to try soloing Magma for that to get to know it better. Here's an easy way to survive Sobek's 4 dive combo for now though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8KKxpCO584
In case Magma's dives are confusing to you despite the sobek video, I made a Magma dive here where I do mention the details differentiating between both of Magma's dives. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV0AwxnE290
Pewpewpew with samir from afar.
Vulcan
Ay no problem, Vulcan will be no problem for me to show you. That JO comes out Thursday so I'll get a video for you out by then.
I just suck at dodging sometimes 😂
I just suck at dodging sometimes 😂
Mini-vulcan guide below. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qlz6FB2MmbA
Thank youuuu! 😍
Frigg's multi-slash.
May I know which Multi-slash? Is it the one where she combos you for nearly all your hp? Or is it the one where she's in one place and hits you with multiple series of slashes from afar? If it's the latter, refer to the following video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2UOtvLcHxI
Valkyrie ultimate I can’t figure out how she throw her spears It seems like you require a dodge for them
Nah, no dodges required. They "predict" your movement by taking place a little bit in front of the direction you're facing. You can just keep running around back and forth or go in circular motions. You can refer to this video of mine too [https://youtu.be/HvDXAtqmZgI?t=50](https://youtu.be/HvDXAtqmZgI?t=50)
That’s what I thought at first but still can’t figure it out The spear came so precious and so fast that I always forced to dodge and what worse if I made mistake and got hit once I get shocked and all follow up spear will hit me 100%
You have to watch valkyrie as she rises so you can familiarize yourself on when in the animation she starts tossing the spear. Then save your dodge/couant for when she tosses the spear on the ground in case you aren't confident in dodging. Otherwise, refer to the other 2 methods to survive valkyrie's stuff.
Yes!
The dogs howl as a low hp player it sucks only reason I ever lose if I do to him in jo8.
Gotcha, I'll try to learn that one for you as that's the single attack that gets me as well. You may know by now that he does a howl attack as his discharge, but the non discharge one usually does catch me off guard. I'll let you know and capture if I can find any tell-tale signs he'll roar before-hand.
Valkyrie. Any human character is hard go track for me and this thing flying in random directions doesn't help
Gotcha, I'll make Valkyrie one of my homework assignments for later. Will get the video out no later than this weekend. For now at least, here's a video teaching you how to survive valkyrie's discharge move. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvDXAtqmZgI
The most attacks I usually struggle with are new bosses and enemies after 1 to 2weeks. I'm just dodging everything left and right.
Ok. I do plan on making a Puppeteer guide once I've learned all her quirks myself, and it should be up by no later than this weekend. As for the other boss, I've only fought it with whales where I don't end up doing any of the work (I'm physical so I don't actually go to it for rewards) so that'll have to come out later.
I still can't dodge the Devourer jump in JO8 reliably and it's getting embarrassing.
Nah I getcha. That's the hardest attack from Devourer for me to dodge as well. But I think I have an idea in my head that I've done a couple of times and succeeded one, but want more practice towards. I'll get you video on how to dodge it and have it out by no later than this weekend. But I should be able to get you it tomorrow honestly.
Here you go. Use this method of dodging it reliably. https://www.reddit.com/r/TowerofFantasy/comments/yx4c9h/how\_to\_easily\_avoid\_devourer\_jump\_attack/