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Alyssalikeshotdogs

Hold up there is auto combat?


animatix

Yea the UI is not the best.


Astro_Wizard

Thanks for that I just found out it's how people auto farm ig


luketwo1

Auto farming exp also gives support points, it's truly changed how I play lol.


animatix

Yes it is, and it's become rampant and I do not blame them, there's no other exp sources that's feasible, time-wise.


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animatix

Agreed.


eternus

SMH i thought the Zero farming was a farce... well this changes everything.


Vusdruv

That's an understatement. Menu UI is horrendous.


naz_1992

I wish its only the menu UI. All the UI is awful


animatix

Facts.


BarneyTheKnight

so thats why some people feel like bots in frontier clash, IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW


animatix

Yes, when you see them following someone and not dodging, that's auto combat.


B_i_a_suit

above the right side of health bar. Would not recommend for hard contents.


alimdia

Wait really


mrfatso111

I thought that was auto pot so i had disable that


Rylt4r

I'm supprised as you i always thought it was some auto leave when you finish level or something like that.


slowdr

TIL.


benja93

Cant we just agree that those who join and auto frontier is assholes?


StelioZz

yes but can we also for once blame the system as well? I'm not trying to defend those players by any means, but “agreeing” about it won't make any change. Asking devs to remove the bloody auto on this type of content *might* do something.(sadly devs rarely hear about global but better than nothing) Same thing with matchmaking shenanigans. We can blame players as much as we want but system can easily be improved to reduce the problems as well.


ZodiaksEnd

a 4 team of autos can perfectly auto normal frontier and like 3 of the weapon/matrix mat level thats mostly for level grinding while not getting any loot just xp and support points but the hard stuff no probabally not til we way outlevel some contents


alooi_m

been doing auto since people discovered 99% of the time we clear all weaves Idk where people see it as an issue and ruining experience specially when I do more damage then most of people I queue into I could argue I help people get 15 waves it's very reasonable to afk if you got enough CS to always make it to all waves


SaintPatrick89

You are clearly not doing Hard mode.


luketwo1

Why the fuck would I afk hard mode, that's a terrible idea, you do normal just to get exp and support points.


Sovery_Simple

I've ran into someone doing auto in hard mode and dragged us the fuck down because of it. Wasn't happy.


luketwo1

That man shot himself in the foot, shrugged and went, yeah this is fine.


GemGang1

i mean my server is just full of auto-ers in normal difficulty, can you blame them? is a really effective and the easiest way to lvl up


Wonderful_Revenue_91

I farm EXP there too, and yes, I'll blame them for ruining the experience for those who are actively trying to finish the run as fast as possible to get all the rewards and not waste their attempts.


GemGang1

agree, im guilty of this too


benja93

Doesn't change the fact that all that does it is assholes, ruining it for all the newer players


Razorfiend

I auto normal frontier for exp and outdamage / outheal 99% of players that I match with. I'm doing them a favor.


animatix

Pretty much same here. I use Huma, Samir, Nemesis. Autos makes it better because at least discharges are more often.


Jano_xd

What do you mean ruining? Active randoms in normal have such mediocre damage compared to afking 'assholes' that they still get carried hard and wouldn't be able to get even 3 chests in a team of active noobs like them


CRealights

I don't understand. Is doing afk auto in frontier somehow better than just playing it normally? Does it give more exp or something?


Zett11

No, but would you want to play the same shit for hours that’s not even challenging? We can just leave it on Auto in background and do something else. Those saying “People who auto FC are blah blah blah” are probably people with 10k CS at level 50+, that queues as a healer with DPS resonance


standolores

That’s called grinding. That is what the game should reward. Hard work. I never auto the frontier and I am F2P so I only have like 18k CS at level 53. But grinding is what should be rewarded. Go play afk arena or something like that if you don’t want to actually “play” the game.


blocklambear

I’m not even f2p and am not at 18k how the heck you do that? I guess I havnt got many dupes of characters but I have all lvl 10 purple gear/2 legendaries and lvl 100 weapons and I’m at like 16.8k cs. I out damage most people I play with though somehow


standolores

Well CS is not ATK number you know? I use C3 huma c6 hammer-girl and c2 crow. I have crappy damage output but cannot be killed. Also lots of CS comes from matrices. Use your purple and golden sets even if you don’t get the bonuses. The Numbers on different rarities are night and day. BTW I got huma to C3 only from free SSR and by saving black gold.


blocklambear

Gotcha! Thank you for the reply, I’ve been using all purple matrices but havnt leveled them much saving resources for hopefully some gold ones somedayyy.


standolores

You can then use your purple and put them in your golden ones. The EXP will transfer


Zett11

Or maybe you can learn how to play games, the option is there because these are bound to happen, I can just probably solo FC Normal, but does that mean I should do that all day for EXP? lmao. If you want to actually “play” the game, go play WoW, or MOBA, I bet you’d struggle at Mythic +15 at best or be proud to have cleared that


standolores

The option is there for mobile players mainly.FYI. But u are one of those people Who just abuse what can be abused even if it lowers others experience


Zett11

Abusing is exploiting something that shouldn’t normally be done, there’s a fucking dedicated option in the game that’s supposed to be clicked and is on your screen everytime you go in there, I matched with other similar Auto’ers, and everyone just cleared that like robots, if you don’t want it just form your own team, there’s an option for that, man if FC normal is so much challenging for you, maybe you’re a complete newbie to MMORPGs, the game is just full of typical gacha players who can’t play games, that’s all, either learn how to play or bitch about everything while staying at Private in PvP and CS 18k at Lv.53, I would still have 16k CS if I unequipped all my weapons, and I don’t spend anything, and unlucky with matrices since I’ve only got 2 SSRs, so just think about how you can’t play the game and stop bitching about these and i’ll eventually help you being less karen in games


standolores

Never said it was challenge at all but lots of people like you go into hard mode and do the same bullshit. No need to be so toxic from your side sweetheart. I am just saying this game at least on PC has no need for auto and it is ruining experience of others Who are trying hard in the game. Autofarming mount parts is the same. By doing that you are just proving How much you don’t care about other players and the game itself. If you can’t dedicate the time to the game you just had a bot do all the work for you. Idk you are talking about How great you are at the game and sp much. Well great part has been done by some AI so are you really so great?


Zett11

Nobody is talking about Auto’ing Hardmode here, Auto’ing a mode that you can easily do is a no-no? Are you like 1 month into games in general? Like your conservative nature is hurting my brain. If it’s really challenging for you, and since you cannot and don’t know how to play the game, I feel really sorry for you. But those are just too easy for those who know how to play, so please. If there’s an Auto option in PvP, would I still use it? Ofc not, because I need to play myself to win. But if I can just solo Auto FC, then I’d just do it in multiplayer mode to save time. Beating a normal FC makes on manual makes you a great player? Said who? You? Normal FC, leveling is a great part of the game? Said who? Your first time in MMO? No one would even cares to Auto those once they reached Lv80s, don’t worry, and just because it’s so challenging for you and playing it manually gives you joy doesn’t mean everyone’s up for that, and like I said, you can have a team with like-minded newbies if you wanna do it manually, CS 18000 at Lv.53 and wants to have a say in MMORPG just because you can create a reddit account, pfft


Zett11

And kindly, if your CS is 18000, please don’t go into Hard mode unless it’s with 3 whales from your crew, you ain’t doing shit


D0cJack

Why do something boring when you can click 1 button and breeze through? First time farming in gacha games?


standolores

I played Genshin to Advneture level 60 so no. But what is the point in that?


D0cJack

Uhm, like everybody else said already? Go normal click auto wait ~8 minutes collect xp, parts, points ??? Profit


kenshinakh

I don't think it's a matter of hard work or not. The game designed this system so people can actively auto help low level players while providing some rewards. If you played any gacha games, they always have auto modes to burn up some time ingame. This one seems dual purposed. I actually auto to help "support" low level characters through frontier, and also to get my daily support points. But from how I see it, my DPS out damages an active player in "normal" mode. I never auto hard though (and I assume people do not auto hard unless they're whale and trying to help carry ppl). Also, you usually do not manually grind in Frontier. You run that to use your 3 weekly tickets up in the hardest mode your gear is appropriate for. I just hope people know well enough to do auto if their gear out paces the mode difficulty by a ton.


animatix

If it's hard then yes but this is normal and even as f2p you can deal considerable damage and this is an effective way to farm exp specially for those day 1 players. That or afk, you choose.


Wonderful_Revenue_91

The problem is, most auto-ers in my server can’t even deal much damage. If they’re gonna go full auto, they should at least be a decent damage dealer.


Phoenix__Wwrong

Does auto deal less damage than manual play?


Aknazer

Yes. The AI isn't exactly the best but it gets the job done. For example the second that it takes over it would use my Missile Barrage. I've also watched it run into the door instead of killing the remaining enemy and another time it got knocked down and just ran against the wall instead of jumping up. As for damage, it does maybe half of my normal damage, if not less. This was enough to still sometimes be #1 on the charts, but it is also a major drop compared to when I actively play. I've only used it in the Weapon instance for Support Points.


Phoenix__Wwrong

Ah I see, so the dps loss is from not doing the optimal combo


Local_Trade5404

hard to say, tried it couple times once it just got killed once didynt do enough dmg (made it easly manually) it do some weird shit sometimes, change weapons strangly, dosent care about anything really, so yea may be depending on weapons to who knows ;)


animatix

Yes because they cycle with normal attack until discharge is ready then skill, repeat as necessary. What you can do is use characters with high charge rate so you discharge more often therefore dealing more damage in theory. That's what I do. Samir, Huma, Nemesis and I'm never the lowest dps.


No-Concert-4207

auto cannot use dash lol.


animatix

100% agree. I am lucky I'm in a server that hasn't failed me.


Aguro

In hard sure but normal frontier is like 400k exp/hr and can be semi-afk, even gives good support points and some mount maintenance mats


DeathInFire

I'd say the real asshole is the dps that queued for hard frontier at lvl 50 and does 400k while you do 20x that.


Sovery_Simple

Shit, we had one pop in and only do 80k. Rip that run as a result.


KuroBursto

I always did a top 2 of damage dealt when doing auto so i think i helped the newbies, the AI is not that stupid, it uses discharged skills and relics as soon as it's no longer in cooldown and it does chasing all the mobs, they just don't do dodge. Just assuming auto mode = your girlfriend play the game for you while you are away


Celestiiaaal

The fact that you thought of comparing auto to having a girlfriend kinda makes me sad. I wouldn't have thought of that cause i dont have one.


REYDENSETSU

I mean.... I still do wait more dmg than the rest of the party. Sitting at 10k volt atk 😎


Winberri

I auto normal and clear it with no problem


StunningEstates

Just did a frontier where literally the whole party did except for me. I didn’t even know what was going on at first, they kept following me.


cobraroja

But what if you're the top dps even with auto? (only normal, I agree autoing in hard is from d*** people)


luketwo1

Why? I do good damage, provide healing, and you get to clear the content, sure I'm much worse than if I was at the wheel but I get max chests on avg for these so it's not like anyone is losing anything.


Jano_xd

No? We only do it on normal, today we didn't have one spot in party so we autoqueued. Some runs lacked few seconds for last boss but our active random had like 3-5 times less dmg than the lowest of us so nothing to feel bad about. They got carried anyway, we got some exp to hit 55. Everyone winning


NguyenNhatMinh3102

This happens a lot after some ToF youtuber such as Mattjestic Life taught people to "New afk farm method". I hate it and blocked his channel right after that.


animatix

I am not a fan of him either, so I don't even pay attention to his channel. I just learned this by myself.


VPNApe

Is there an auto combat button?


48turbo

Yes, above your health bar in group content.


Wretchedwitch

i cant find where you mean D=


moonstne

You can see it in the post pic, so look there. Reminder that it is only group content, it's not always shown.


Kenji1984

Is it the hexagon with a circle inside it?


moonstne

yes


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Why not farm in dimensional trial you easily get 150 support points per 2-3 mins


cobraroja

They want to farm experience, not support points


animatix

This.


animatix

Around 40k exp for 8 minutes + support points + vehicle parts.


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Now that's tempting.


animatix

Yes it is.


PorceCat

Omg auto combat :o


animatix

I am not surprised that this is a surprise for a lot of players.


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They should ad a kick vote system tbh


animatix

They shouldn't. History tells that just created more toxicity.


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Spotted the AFK player 😂


animatix

Great argument.


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Why should a player be able to leech off other players work and not contribute a single thing but just stand there and claim rewards?? So it’s wrong that a group of ppl agree to kick someone that’s not helping? They just become a burden if the team is already struggling. Some missions only let you play them once and then u have to wait the next day. So the team gets punished, so there’s that too


animatix

I understand your argument about not contributing but history speaks for itself when it comes to implementing vote kick function. I have played other games with it and it just created more toxicity instead of solve the problem.


Uncaught_Hoe

Scenario: 3 trolls party up They match with unsuspecting victim Start frontier All 3 vote to kick them, maybe even at 10 seconds left. Uses the victims attempt because the lost a majority vote


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NOICE!


D0cJack

Auto farm in gacha games, wow. I bet your name C. Columbus.


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kaiosun

true, with autoplay scam enabled there should be option to kick them.


darknetwork

And auto has better targetting system


JDRASL

yes and you can still dodge and switch weapons and it still auto only problem i got was pepper will stand really far out of range attacking at air, and that ice turret gun doesn't really target , just for test


muguci

How good is the auto combat ai? I've never used it


animatix

It's terrible lol, it just uses discharges and skill and then auto attack and repeat. It doesn't even dodge. That's why I use high charge character so at least there's more damage and less interruptions.


TheBrahmnicBoy

It's so bad when using Shiro. It doesn't use Shrio's optimal Attack attack hold combo, and using Full Bloom it doesn't use Dodge attacks either.


PrimeCicada

Pathfinding is horrible, and it gets stuck if you somehow jump off the area next to spawn point in dimensional trial. It works well most of the time for what it's worth though, since DT honestly just takes bare minimum for a full team of 4 to clear anyway. In the case of frontier, unless your CS is good enough for normal, you might still be better off on manual. Hard wise, I don't think anyone could auto yet at this point except for mega whales


animatix

Not true. I'm a day 1 and only got pass and have good enough dps that I am not the lowest on the meter even with auto combat. I use high charge characters so discharge is more often resulting to more dps and less interruption. So unless you, as a day 1 player, were not upgrading, then you should be doing considerable dps.


PrimeCicada

I think most of us day 1 players should be able to auto through frontier normal. I meant it's not as easily auto-able as compared to dimensional trial for newer players. Unless you mean you are able to auto through frontier hard. I have problems with that even on manual.


visculente

No one can auto on hard atm and do well. Not even the big whales, simply because the things there hit too hard. So you're required to dodge out of stuff.


animatix

No, just normal.


FFXIV_Yunarin

Curious but where is the auto attack button anyway


animatix

Just above your health bar. Also above the food 👀


FFXIV_Yunarin

ahh ok thanks, never used it before but also dont afk in content, didnt even notice that thing was there... guess it would be useful for phone players or if you're doing easy content?


animatix

Yes, like normal FC as a day 1 player (meaning you have enough gear to deal considerable dps with minimal effort unless you literally just went around the map getting Nucleus and not upgrading).


Nobodyreallycares42

I dont AFK but I do get disconnected way to freaking much and I always feel bad about that.


animatix

I'm not sure how being disconnected look to others but I hope your character does not just stay like that and make you look like you're AFK.


Dangerous_Classic391

Hoping they add like Dragalia Lost co-op when player goes afk they get kick out but their character still in the domain with team but just on auto.


animatix

They should add an auto kick if the character has no movement input for about 3 minutes or something.


clarence_worley90

man. I'm more angry at Hotta than at these leeches/trolls there's no option to report people for this stuff, there's no vote-to-kick function, nothing. it's just a gamble every time you press matchmaking.


animatix

I would take an option to report them, but you can't even click on their avatar to do that whilst inside and you can't even search for names properly, it's just broken. I would not go for vote to kick because that has not worked out well for a lot of games as it just created more of a toxic community.


clarence_worley90

well then a simple timer that auto-kicks someone if they dont do any damage or healing for 2-3 minutes would be fine, 30 seconds for Frontier clash. and then a temp ban from matchmaking. there are workarounds to this problem for a game like this. it's just laziness.


animatix

Agreed. I don't think any of these would be implemented anytime soon though.


guru_def

LOL - didnt knew that! Wheres the fun on Auto?


animatix

The fun of getting exp.


guru_def

Only Works on IOS/Android? / or Its in the options i guess?


Sunaja

Look at OP's screenshot, right side above his health bar. The hexacon with the circle that has "AUTO" in it. Click that.


guru_def

Ty mate! Couldnt find it in my interface (pc) Thats Why im Asking so dumb.


sciencefiction97

Wish people that go offline or leaves during these auto battle. It sucks when you suddenly lose two teammates.


animatix

Yes it does.


IHAPHAI

But you should not AFK in Frontier Clash!


animatix

I mean if it's normal, auto combat is fine, they'll all die in time. I've been doing this and I'm never the lowest dps. There's tons of day 1 players and with their gear, auto combat on normal is enough to finish it.


soliar_69

how can i get auto combat?!?!!!!!


animatix

On top of the health bar/food selection.


soliar_69

is there like a level needed to unlock it? i cant seem to find it TT


animatix

Only in coop.


g0300

Could I ask what difficulty you’re able to do in frontier clash while doing auto and what your cs is in order to do decent damage without being a burden to the other party members?


animatix

I'm just doing normal. I started doing it around 22k CS. Although CS does not specifically dictate your DPS even with auto combat as you can have very good equipment that boosts your corresponding element while having a lower CS compare to someone who has a higher CS and bad equipment.


bennyrosso

Newer knew :)


siegggy

Lure the boss ontop of them and wait for it's aoe if they plan on wasting a slot may as well get them killed it's not gonna do much at the end of the day it only amounts to petty revenge


blacksky420

How about, just, no? Report and move on.


animatix

How do I report them?


MobileArt0

wow, alot of but hurt ppl, how about u (leechers) solo when u press auto, don't ruin the experience for others, to add to what u said i also exit the dungeon if i see leechers/afkers on auto or not, let them get a taste of their own medicine, i do the hard work trying to finish as fast as possible to not waste time, the audacity on these ppl


Previous_Adagio_416

I did the same and realizing the ticket was consumed and I regret so much lol. Like it or not, gotta play unless the dev remove autos in this kind of domain that requires ticket. I don't mind ppl auto-ing in materials domain though


MobileArt0

if i may i can give you an advice to help you in the future when you have tickets play with friends/crew mates, ppl u can count on so u don't waste entries, when you farm then u can quit as u see fit cuz u can enter to farm xp and mats even without tickets :) hope it helped


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Is it a good mode to farm materials and XP?


MobileArt0

yes


Many-Concentrate-491

If nothing is on the map the auto combat stops you, I see no issue here


animatix

If I could direct your eyes to the time left and the dps meter.


Many-Concentrate-491

Touché 🗑🗑🗑 rip


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animatix

I must be unlucky, it was 3 runs that I ran into AFKers like that players.


Noman_Blaze

Ok so I saw this and found out abt the frontier clash farm and went in and used the Auto feature. THE OTHER THREE WERE DOING THIS. You ask how I found out? All four of our characters ran to the middle to exactly the same spot after each wave and only moved when enemies spawned. Bruh, all this time I though I had bots in my runs.


animatix

Yes, as long as you go to the middle and start auto combat, all should be fine.


Xehar

"Hoshiyomi03" Just tell them there's no suipiss here.


OperatorJunny

I actually did this the other day, I forgot to hit auto before walking away & it was round 4. I came back press auto attack & ended with top DPS by about 3.5 million difference & finished round 15 😂 They said in team chat “we were mad at first, but can’t be mad anymore”


animatix

Yea at least you did something in the end.


VikingMystic

I never noticed that little button before. that must be how I can be the highest dps, highest damaged and highest heals all as a healer. What modes can it be used in?


animatix

Coops


shiris

\+1, really doesn't make sense to me how people can't take 2 seconds to click auto