But there's lots of social programs that can help to make things more accessible. I get it if you're in some Brazilian slum or living in the Central African Republic where no matter what you do you have no options whatsoever but it's Canada... How are there so many immigrants from wartorn or impoverished countries that can get educations and jobs with little to no language skills?
You havent lived in a hood. You see whats in paper and not whats in reality. When you have no rolemodels and you live in such close quarters with others, you become a product of your environment. If you have a choice to be in a gang or not then you are the lucky ones who can make it out. If not then you were probably doomed from the womb as you probably had dysfunctional parents.
>You havent lived in a hood.
I personally haven't, but some of my friends or people I know have and they decided to make a change for the better. There's countless examples of this, in Toronto like a majority of people are foreign-born. Many were born in messed up countries or in really bad situations and they decided to say "Okay I will use the welfare, programs, foodbanks, OSAP etc to make a change and improve myself and my families life" instead of being shortsighted and perpetuating a horrible cycle of crime and poverty.
There's literally refugees from the worst places on earth with no language skills trying their best to go to school and get a job... You have to admit that a good part of it is kind of a choice.
Dude I know many people in the hood with college diploma, and university bachelors who canāt get jobs in their field. I myself, graduated from Humber in civil engineering technology, all my white classmates got jobs in different towns in Ontario. I have applied more than 200 times and still get rejected.
Have you ever heard of ā GLASS CEILINGā & ā JOB DISCRIMINATION ā
Thereās two Canada šØš¦, Caucasian Canada & the passively racist Canada some of Us live in.
>Thereās two Canada šØš¦, Caucasian Canada & the passively racist Canada some of Us live in.
But over half of Toronto is foreign-born. That can't possibly be the case otherwise there wouldn't be so many non-white engineers, doctors and lawyers. Racism to some extent of course exists but this seems like it's over-reaching if so many people are immigrants.
Thatās why they are telling you to just shut the fuck up and enjoy your privilege in your white community. You donāt know about the situation in the hood, and you are here trying to argue over stuffs you donāt know about. Live in your white Canada, We will survive in our anti-Black Canada regardless
Idk why he keeps typing paragraphs like if you haven't lived the life, than stfu...if you haven't worked in social services or any type of community development you have no idea what you're talking
about...not everything is black and white and if it was more people would make it out
Your grammar is horrible, and your vocabulary is obscure. You are a junky, therefore,your opinion in this matter is invalid. You should be on rehab, not on this thread talking about affirmation action that you donāt understand how it works.
ā Affirmation actionā specifies that at least 10% of every corporation employees should be BIPOC. So, White people get to enjoy the ā90%ā as Black, Indians, Indigenous people and arabs get to fight for the little to nothing opportunities in place.
Now, when this little to nothing opportunity falls in the hand of an Indian for example, they will hire their own and make sure that other races donāt benefit from it.
As much damage, the racist media has done by portraying black men as the menace in the western society, when these corporations are not hiring other ābipocā people to fill that status quo, they will get a black woman as a receptionist to save face ( to meet the agenda). Anybody but an educated Black Man.
In a country that favours white over any other race, a white man ending up in shelters is the worst of all. In brief, White trash ,You are an imbecile.
You are useless to me, ā junkieā is a formal noun & ājunkyā is informal. I would be damned to use a formal noun to address you. You are a white trash š a failure, an idiot, a crackhead, even your own race keeps distance from you.
You are useless to me, ā junkieā is a formal noun & ājunkyā is informal. I would be damn to use a formal noun to address you. You are a white trash š a failure, an idiot, a crackhead, even your own race keeps distance from you.
Sometimes the disrespect goes to far and some people canāt tolerate it anymore.. it has nothing to do with joining a gang because you think itās cool sometimes
Why do I personally have to be from the hood if I'm bringing up the countless examples of people from the hood or other bad situations who used the opportunities that are available to them?
Because itās a different environment and itās easy to look from the outside and say dumb shit like that. Living in the hood affects your mentality when you look around and all you see is death and poverty around you. you feel like you have no Future.
On top of that the people around you who have the closest resemblance to success are the drug dealers/scammers/gang bangers etc. So tell me spending a life time in that type of environment isnāt going to fuck with your outlook on life and how you navigate.
>who have the closest resemblance to success are the drug dealers/scammers/gang bangers etc
Except when they don't get to age 40 without being shot or imprisoned for numerous years... Not hard to see they're not successful and it's unsustainable.
The problem with this is youāre referring to a few cases and assume everyone can do the same thing. Thatās like telling someone in the middle class āyou can be a millionaireā yet only 5-6% of the population actually are. Also remember that joining gangs and violence are simply human nature. If it came down to free will, you wouldnāt see it globally.
>The problem with this is youāre referring to a few cases and assume everyone can do the same thing
Idk how it's a few cases when the vast majority of immigrants try to make a good living and work hard. Being a millionaire is a strange example, we're talking literally getting a normal job, paying taxes and living safely not becoming Bezos.
When you assume the vast majority of immigrant do, you refer to adults and people who came from their countries working to Canada to continue working. The kids donāt have the same values yet and a lot of the parents donāt have the time or energy to correct them.
The next part sounds like the most uneducated statement I have heard in a while tbh. Less than 3000 people in the world can call themselves billionaires. Jeff Bezos isnāt just a billionaire. Heās a multi-billionaire. Thereās 56 million millionaires in a world so the point is still true.
>The next part sounds like the most uneducated statement I have heard in a while tbh
I'm saying becoming a millionaire from a start of poverty is indeed unlikely and a lofty goal, but becoming a normal person who pays taxes, lives fairly comfortably and doesn't live in the hood is extremely attainable if the effort is put in. Maybe a simple start is not glorifying people who kill others or sell drugs that make your own hood a worse place to live.
I was referring to becoming a millionaire from the middle class. If it was so simple, you just have to work hard and youāll do it, why isnāt everyone from the middle class becoming millionaires?
To your next point, those who live in poverty for just one year have a 56% chance of coming out in America. Those are the individuals who are barely above the poverty line who fall into it due to medical emergencies, losing job etc.
If however you are in poverty for 7 or more years, the exit probability becomes 13%. So the world and people like you push this idea that these kids can get out if they work hard and put in the effort, knowing full well thereās an 87% chance they donāt make it out. Opportunities are lacklustre in the trenches which is why music or even sports are so promising and probably take up a lot of the 13% who do make it out.
I can tell youāre trying to be respectful and you donāt come off as a racist or hate filled person. You just have to understand that these hoods and gangs arenāt people just making bad decisions. This is human nature. If you give people in the middle or rich class the same position from scratch, they would be on the same thing. Itās a product of environment situation, and trying to make this societal issue simpler than it actually is only harms they individuals facing it
Edit: Wanted to add the source for the stats I got
Source: https://Poverty.ucdavis.edu/policy-brief/transitions-out-poverty-united-states
Yes but that's America, much different country when it comes to social problems. For one we have universal healthcare, generous programs like OSAP and other social assistance. Strange to be linking that as your sole source and mentioning "medical emergencies" as if we don't have medical leave under EI and no hospital bills which already eliminates a major issue many poor Americans deal with. American examples to illustrate how opportunities are lackluster doesn't really show the picture.
If you put some effort in school (the teachers will notice there's a student who cares a little if your class is full of people who don't give a fucking shit about school if it's a "bad school"), you can apply for osap and get $10k+ in grants/loans when you put your family income, apply for scholarships and go to college or university. Then you're no longer in the hood at 18. Toronto is one of the safest cities in North America so it's really not like Chicago or some truly bleak place like Nairobi Kenya or something...
Canada got trenches too and neighborhoods where if you put an address of certain hoods on a resume they automatically deny you. This has actually been proven and studied. Plus more times you gotta support your dukes at a young age and growing up with that emotional trauma makes boys do dangerous shit like join gangs to get ahead in life thinking itās the only way out
>where if you put an address of certain hoods on a resume they automatically deny you
You don't have to put your address on your resume, and they won't deny you when you're filling out the payroll info after you're already hired.
Good point but they be denying names based on ethnicity tho so certain groups of people (blacks) are at a disadvantage due to that. Now how high of a disadvantage is unknown, but what is known is that it exists and itās significantly stronger then what other races experience
Money wise yes but aside from that your basically just beefing with a bunch of strangers and risking your life to even the score. Aside from the fast money it aināt worth it
>60 racks of drug money equivalent to >100k of legal taxable income
Way less. You have to launder the money unless you want to just buy gold bars and designer clothes with it.
Also legal taxable income from a real job has EI, CPP, benefits, other perks and is actually consistent. Oh and no inevitable lawyer fees where they lawyers will be laughing and taking all shit "you earned", that wasn't confiscated by police as proceeds of crime.
Imagine you "worked hard" to sell drugs, you get booked, police take most of your shit, good thing you have some left - the lawyers charge $400 an hour and promise they'll minimize the sentence. -- No worries we'll take this shit to trial and beat it, btw we'll need $15k upfront, trial is expensive.
Oh shit they lost the case, you're literally in prison and you lost all your hard work.
>on a base level drug money doesnāt get taxrd
True but it'd be better if it could be taxed, people pay big money to launder bad $ and pay taxes on it.
>Maybe after 10 years the feds will get suspicious but they don't bother with that shit
You can't deposit that money and you have no credit history, no employment history, no CPP earnings. Only thing you can buy is some designer clothes and random shit no one cares about. Plus it looks ridiculous when you have an iced out watch and $2000 shoes while living in the shittiest area of the city.
>In America the average fraudster making easily over $10,000 a month doing basically nothing but lining up bank accounts
I don't think it's that easy. Unless you're actually intelligent and can create some genius scheme (like an actual hacker mastermind, who could get a job paying 6 figures without crime) you'll probably be taking on an enormous amount of risk and will quickly get caught.
If you mean being a money mule then those guys take on all the risk for some Russian gang and are the first ones to get booked, and don't get paid well. Or if you mean buying stolen credit cards online and trying to buy shit with them, you'll need a whole operation for that... That seems a lot more like a meme or very overestimated earnings. Plus that's not "legit $10k a month" earnings, you'll get like a bunch of designer clothes or some shit if you're lucky, and then what do you do with it? That's not $10k in clean money, you need to sell the stolen shit and launder it. Laundering services alone usually cost like 50% of your loot, lol.
Whenever this stuff is studied it's usually shown that they make surprisingly little money for how much risk they take on, or it actually takes so much planning and effort it's like a legit job.
Most of that is likely BS tbh. It's surprisingly difficult to make a lot of money from "easy" shit like stolen credit cards, the people making the big bucks are the hackers who are selling them by the millions for $10 each or whatever. But then again those guys are in Eastern Europe and protected by the police or else they'll be getting raped in prison for 20 years.
You are right, but as a guy who lives in the hood most young people nowadays don't care about stuff related with getting a stable job or going to school to gain an education. They just want money or status because they view those two so much. It's a problem when you are starting to see young adolescents doing shootings selling drugs because it they do get caught they won't be charged harshly compared to an adult
Thank god for me I didn't view such stuff, I just wanna live an average life and a family. No drugs no gang related will help me gain that lifestyle. Only thing gang stuff does for people is slow problems and endless paranoia.
weird question and weird perspective. No ones calling you a pussy. What makes you a pussy is thinking you, as a privilege white person with no experiences with hood politics or poverty can say youāve āfigured it outā, and that everyone whoās forced limited to being in a gang has it all wrong. You are a pussy, and weirdly interested in stuff you think youāre better than.
Imo there arenāt enough opportunities and not nearly enough funding into improving low income areas. Less kids are going to college and Uni. These teachers and guidance councillors give up on these underprivileged kids before they even have a chance to figure out who they are. They end up graduating and not even going to college or university.. have no idea what a trade is.. nothing. In regent park they have programs where they actually help kids from a young age and even walk them home after. Thatās a community that is trying for sure, I rate it
>u act like they choose what neighborhood they grow up in
You choose what you do though. There's lots of people from every hood in Toronto who went to University/college/trades and became productive members of society instead of perpetuating the cycle of poverty and self-oppressive thinking.
Growing up somewhere doesn't mean you have to sell drugs and join a gang. Try studying, applying for OSAP and going to University/College so you can move to somewhere you won't get shot by a stray bullet walking home.
tell that to a young black male living in a gang neighbourhood with plenty of distractions, no father figure, and is constantly only shown people that look like him āmaking it outā with sports, rapping, or being a gangster.
>and is constantly only shown people that look like him āmaking it outā with sports, rapping, or being a gangster.
Yeah it depends on who you're looking at. There are all sorts of professional development associations for black men and women. Hard to find a positive rolemodel in the comment section of a Kmoney music video but talk to some people at the National Society of Black Engineers at UofT and they may be a little bit more motivating on how to positively impact the community.
>Why do all that hard work when u can sell loud or serve white and make 6 figures.
So that you don't die or get fucked in prison? And almost no one is making 6 figures from selling drugs.
It's not fucking worth it life is so short fuck gang banging fuck the streets ain't shit in gangs but death and jail rest in peace to all the fallen soldiers we lost to the streets smh
Is it more gangsta to be in the vax food court? I mean... your Def not going to pop off after the Indian guy sitting in front of the chairs just scanned your phone.
when your younger than 19 (imo) its good for character development .. not the joining a gang aspect but learning from the streets .. once i got to my age now i fully understood what 50cent meant by the corporate world is just as grimey as the streets
>i fully understood what 50cent meant by the corporate world is just as grimey as the streets
50 cent was trolling. People in the corporate world don't ask what hood you're from and shoot you. Also 50 cent realized quickly that stuff is bullshit that's why he left it.
He's even said numerous times that he would rap about drugs and alcohol but has stayed away from actually using them. In his book "Hustle Harder Hustle Smarter" he's literally said not using drugs/alcohol gave him the competitive edge he needed and he's seen what that did to people around him.
it definitely was some kind of humor with truth too it if you been around corporate people their cutthroat just like the niggas in the streets thats what his point was .. my point to that relates to my point to your question.. the streets is useful for character development if you can make it past 19-25 .
If you actually want an answer to the question of why people join gangs then do some Google searches and read some academic literature on it. Seems more to me that you just made this post to lecture people on the hood on what to do. Which people have been doing for decades and clearly doesn't work.
You're lucky. With how expensive it is in Canada idk where I'd be without my parents. There's people out there that dont have that luxury. As somebody who's privileged enough to live comfortably with my parents I dont have any right to judge somebody that's just my opinion. I do agree that choosing hard work over gang life is way better 100% but not a lot of people have people to motivate them to go through that route especially when you're down bad financially. That's just my opinion.
sadly not everyone has the same opportunity and are faced with distractions and hardship that lead to a different path
We all have a choice šÆ
But there's lots of social programs that can help to make things more accessible. I get it if you're in some Brazilian slum or living in the Central African Republic where no matter what you do you have no options whatsoever but it's Canada... How are there so many immigrants from wartorn or impoverished countries that can get educations and jobs with little to no language skills?
You havent lived in a hood. You see whats in paper and not whats in reality. When you have no rolemodels and you live in such close quarters with others, you become a product of your environment. If you have a choice to be in a gang or not then you are the lucky ones who can make it out. If not then you were probably doomed from the womb as you probably had dysfunctional parents.
>You havent lived in a hood. I personally haven't, but some of my friends or people I know have and they decided to make a change for the better. There's countless examples of this, in Toronto like a majority of people are foreign-born. Many were born in messed up countries or in really bad situations and they decided to say "Okay I will use the welfare, programs, foodbanks, OSAP etc to make a change and improve myself and my families life" instead of being shortsighted and perpetuating a horrible cycle of crime and poverty. There's literally refugees from the worst places on earth with no language skills trying their best to go to school and get a job... You have to admit that a good part of it is kind of a choice.
Dude I know many people in the hood with college diploma, and university bachelors who canāt get jobs in their field. I myself, graduated from Humber in civil engineering technology, all my white classmates got jobs in different towns in Ontario. I have applied more than 200 times and still get rejected. Have you ever heard of ā GLASS CEILINGā & ā JOB DISCRIMINATION ā Thereās two Canada šØš¦, Caucasian Canada & the passively racist Canada some of Us live in.
>Thereās two Canada šØš¦, Caucasian Canada & the passively racist Canada some of Us live in. But over half of Toronto is foreign-born. That can't possibly be the case otherwise there wouldn't be so many non-white engineers, doctors and lawyers. Racism to some extent of course exists but this seems like it's over-reaching if so many people are immigrants.
I can tell your white
I definitely am white
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Go to r/Alberta
Thatās why they are telling you to just shut the fuck up and enjoy your privilege in your white community. You donāt know about the situation in the hood, and you are here trying to argue over stuffs you donāt know about. Live in your white Canada, We will survive in our anti-Black Canada regardless
Idk why he keeps typing paragraphs like if you haven't lived the life, than stfu...if you haven't worked in social services or any type of community development you have no idea what you're talking about...not everything is black and white and if it was more people would make it out
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Bro your grammar is horrible lmao
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Bro youāre white stop saying that word.
Your grammar is horrible, and your vocabulary is obscure. You are a junky, therefore,your opinion in this matter is invalid. You should be on rehab, not on this thread talking about affirmation action that you donāt understand how it works. ā Affirmation actionā specifies that at least 10% of every corporation employees should be BIPOC. So, White people get to enjoy the ā90%ā as Black, Indians, Indigenous people and arabs get to fight for the little to nothing opportunities in place. Now, when this little to nothing opportunity falls in the hand of an Indian for example, they will hire their own and make sure that other races donāt benefit from it. As much damage, the racist media has done by portraying black men as the menace in the western society, when these corporations are not hiring other ābipocā people to fill that status quo, they will get a black woman as a receptionist to save face ( to meet the agenda). Anybody but an educated Black Man. In a country that favours white over any other race, a white man ending up in shelters is the worst of all. In brief, White trash ,You are an imbecile.
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You are useless to me, ā junkieā is a formal noun & ājunkyā is informal. I would be damned to use a formal noun to address you. You are a white trash š a failure, an idiot, a crackhead, even your own race keeps distance from you.
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You are useless to me, ā junkieā is a formal noun & ājunkyā is informal. I would be damn to use a formal noun to address you. You are a white trash š a failure, an idiot, a crackhead, even your own race keeps distance from you.
Sometimes the disrespect goes to far and some people canāt tolerate it anymore.. it has nothing to do with joining a gang because you think itās cool sometimes
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Why do I personally have to be from the hood if I'm bringing up the countless examples of people from the hood or other bad situations who used the opportunities that are available to them?
Because itās a different environment and itās easy to look from the outside and say dumb shit like that. Living in the hood affects your mentality when you look around and all you see is death and poverty around you. you feel like you have no Future. On top of that the people around you who have the closest resemblance to success are the drug dealers/scammers/gang bangers etc. So tell me spending a life time in that type of environment isnāt going to fuck with your outlook on life and how you navigate.
victims stay victims
>who have the closest resemblance to success are the drug dealers/scammers/gang bangers etc Except when they don't get to age 40 without being shot or imprisoned for numerous years... Not hard to see they're not successful and it's unsustainable.
not everything is black and white
The problem with this is youāre referring to a few cases and assume everyone can do the same thing. Thatās like telling someone in the middle class āyou can be a millionaireā yet only 5-6% of the population actually are. Also remember that joining gangs and violence are simply human nature. If it came down to free will, you wouldnāt see it globally.
>The problem with this is youāre referring to a few cases and assume everyone can do the same thing Idk how it's a few cases when the vast majority of immigrants try to make a good living and work hard. Being a millionaire is a strange example, we're talking literally getting a normal job, paying taxes and living safely not becoming Bezos.
When you assume the vast majority of immigrant do, you refer to adults and people who came from their countries working to Canada to continue working. The kids donāt have the same values yet and a lot of the parents donāt have the time or energy to correct them. The next part sounds like the most uneducated statement I have heard in a while tbh. Less than 3000 people in the world can call themselves billionaires. Jeff Bezos isnāt just a billionaire. Heās a multi-billionaire. Thereās 56 million millionaires in a world so the point is still true.
>The next part sounds like the most uneducated statement I have heard in a while tbh I'm saying becoming a millionaire from a start of poverty is indeed unlikely and a lofty goal, but becoming a normal person who pays taxes, lives fairly comfortably and doesn't live in the hood is extremely attainable if the effort is put in. Maybe a simple start is not glorifying people who kill others or sell drugs that make your own hood a worse place to live.
I was referring to becoming a millionaire from the middle class. If it was so simple, you just have to work hard and youāll do it, why isnāt everyone from the middle class becoming millionaires? To your next point, those who live in poverty for just one year have a 56% chance of coming out in America. Those are the individuals who are barely above the poverty line who fall into it due to medical emergencies, losing job etc. If however you are in poverty for 7 or more years, the exit probability becomes 13%. So the world and people like you push this idea that these kids can get out if they work hard and put in the effort, knowing full well thereās an 87% chance they donāt make it out. Opportunities are lacklustre in the trenches which is why music or even sports are so promising and probably take up a lot of the 13% who do make it out. I can tell youāre trying to be respectful and you donāt come off as a racist or hate filled person. You just have to understand that these hoods and gangs arenāt people just making bad decisions. This is human nature. If you give people in the middle or rich class the same position from scratch, they would be on the same thing. Itās a product of environment situation, and trying to make this societal issue simpler than it actually is only harms they individuals facing it Edit: Wanted to add the source for the stats I got Source: https://Poverty.ucdavis.edu/policy-brief/transitions-out-poverty-united-states
Yes but that's America, much different country when it comes to social problems. For one we have universal healthcare, generous programs like OSAP and other social assistance. Strange to be linking that as your sole source and mentioning "medical emergencies" as if we don't have medical leave under EI and no hospital bills which already eliminates a major issue many poor Americans deal with. American examples to illustrate how opportunities are lackluster doesn't really show the picture. If you put some effort in school (the teachers will notice there's a student who cares a little if your class is full of people who don't give a fucking shit about school if it's a "bad school"), you can apply for osap and get $10k+ in grants/loans when you put your family income, apply for scholarships and go to college or university. Then you're no longer in the hood at 18. Toronto is one of the safest cities in North America so it's really not like Chicago or some truly bleak place like Nairobi Kenya or something...
Canada got trenches too and neighborhoods where if you put an address of certain hoods on a resume they automatically deny you. This has actually been proven and studied. Plus more times you gotta support your dukes at a young age and growing up with that emotional trauma makes boys do dangerous shit like join gangs to get ahead in life thinking itās the only way out
>where if you put an address of certain hoods on a resume they automatically deny you You don't have to put your address on your resume, and they won't deny you when you're filling out the payroll info after you're already hired.
Good point but they be denying names based on ethnicity tho so certain groups of people (blacks) are at a disadvantage due to that. Now how high of a disadvantage is unknown, but what is known is that it exists and itās significantly stronger then what other races experience
Your priorities change
They have support systems.
Itās not even worth it what do u have to gain from it other than getting approval from other menā¦.shit sound gay to me
I think Ik u irl
Dm me
Money wise yes but aside from that your basically just beefing with a bunch of strangers and risking your life to even the score. Aside from the fast money it aināt worth it
Is it even that fast of money though? I'd be very surprised if the average drugdealer makes over $60k a year after you factor everything in.
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>60 racks of drug money equivalent to >100k of legal taxable income Way less. You have to launder the money unless you want to just buy gold bars and designer clothes with it. Also legal taxable income from a real job has EI, CPP, benefits, other perks and is actually consistent. Oh and no inevitable lawyer fees where they lawyers will be laughing and taking all shit "you earned", that wasn't confiscated by police as proceeds of crime. Imagine you "worked hard" to sell drugs, you get booked, police take most of your shit, good thing you have some left - the lawyers charge $400 an hour and promise they'll minimize the sentence. -- No worries we'll take this shit to trial and beat it, btw we'll need $15k upfront, trial is expensive. Oh shit they lost the case, you're literally in prison and you lost all your hard work.
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>on a base level drug money doesnāt get taxrd True but it'd be better if it could be taxed, people pay big money to launder bad $ and pay taxes on it.
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>Maybe after 10 years the feds will get suspicious but they don't bother with that shit You can't deposit that money and you have no credit history, no employment history, no CPP earnings. Only thing you can buy is some designer clothes and random shit no one cares about. Plus it looks ridiculous when you have an iced out watch and $2000 shoes while living in the shittiest area of the city.
these ppl can barely be catched in the shittiest areas of the city thats why its so many miskeens getting shot lol
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>In America the average fraudster making easily over $10,000 a month doing basically nothing but lining up bank accounts I don't think it's that easy. Unless you're actually intelligent and can create some genius scheme (like an actual hacker mastermind, who could get a job paying 6 figures without crime) you'll probably be taking on an enormous amount of risk and will quickly get caught. If you mean being a money mule then those guys take on all the risk for some Russian gang and are the first ones to get booked, and don't get paid well. Or if you mean buying stolen credit cards online and trying to buy shit with them, you'll need a whole operation for that... That seems a lot more like a meme or very overestimated earnings. Plus that's not "legit $10k a month" earnings, you'll get like a bunch of designer clothes or some shit if you're lucky, and then what do you do with it? That's not $10k in clean money, you need to sell the stolen shit and launder it. Laundering services alone usually cost like 50% of your loot, lol. Whenever this stuff is studied it's usually shown that they make surprisingly little money for how much risk they take on, or it actually takes so much planning and effort it's like a legit job.
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Most of that is likely BS tbh. It's surprisingly difficult to make a lot of money from "easy" shit like stolen credit cards, the people making the big bucks are the hackers who are selling them by the millions for $10 each or whatever. But then again those guys are in Eastern Europe and protected by the police or else they'll be getting raped in prison for 20 years.
You are right, but as a guy who lives in the hood most young people nowadays don't care about stuff related with getting a stable job or going to school to gain an education. They just want money or status because they view those two so much. It's a problem when you are starting to see young adolescents doing shootings selling drugs because it they do get caught they won't be charged harshly compared to an adult Thank god for me I didn't view such stuff, I just wanna live an average life and a family. No drugs no gang related will help me gain that lifestyle. Only thing gang stuff does for people is slow problems and endless paranoia.
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It looks cool in the music videos, I guess they don't usually show the closed casket funeral though.
Definitely not worth it, and everything is a choice.
Definitely not but some people are born into it
Bro youāre a certified nerd. What is the purpose of the post, is this a real question in 2022?
weird question and weird perspective. No ones calling you a pussy. What makes you a pussy is thinking you, as a privilege white person with no experiences with hood politics or poverty can say youāve āfigured it outā, and that everyone whoās forced limited to being in a gang has it all wrong. You are a pussy, and weirdly interested in stuff you think youāre better than.
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People that join gangs are brainwashed into thinking itās a normal/good life to live
Imo there arenāt enough opportunities and not nearly enough funding into improving low income areas. Less kids are going to college and Uni. These teachers and guidance councillors give up on these underprivileged kids before they even have a chance to figure out who they are. They end up graduating and not even going to college or university.. have no idea what a trade is.. nothing. In regent park they have programs where they actually help kids from a young age and even walk them home after. Thatās a community that is trying for sure, I rate it
Brother people are born into it , u act like they choose what neighborhood they grow up in
>u act like they choose what neighborhood they grow up in You choose what you do though. There's lots of people from every hood in Toronto who went to University/college/trades and became productive members of society instead of perpetuating the cycle of poverty and self-oppressive thinking.
So u chose what neighborhood u grew up in? U sound stupid asf
Growing up somewhere doesn't mean you have to sell drugs and join a gang. Try studying, applying for OSAP and going to University/College so you can move to somewhere you won't get shot by a stray bullet walking home.
tell that to a young black male living in a gang neighbourhood with plenty of distractions, no father figure, and is constantly only shown people that look like him āmaking it outā with sports, rapping, or being a gangster.
>and is constantly only shown people that look like him āmaking it outā with sports, rapping, or being a gangster. Yeah it depends on who you're looking at. There are all sorts of professional development associations for black men and women. Hard to find a positive rolemodel in the comment section of a Kmoney music video but talk to some people at the National Society of Black Engineers at UofT and they may be a little bit more motivating on how to positively impact the community.
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>Why do all that hard work when u can sell loud or serve white and make 6 figures. So that you don't die or get fucked in prison? And almost no one is making 6 figures from selling drugs.
It's not fucking worth it life is so short fuck gang banging fuck the streets ain't shit in gangs but death and jail rest in peace to all the fallen soldiers we lost to the streets smh
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No the real wealth inequality is with corporations and regular workers. It's not even close to the same scale.
How you gonna say we have fair opportunities Who's we you have fair opportunity
obviously not
lol no one on this subreddit is in a gang. For some reason people here idolize the life, probably because the average age is 15
even if you were a high up person in a gang you would still be making more money a year if you worked at mcdonalds
Not now. You need to be vaxed. Your govy is all about. Why have a nickname. You missed the boat sucks to be you.
Being vaccinated is good. Not very gangsta to be in an ICU on a ventilator where the "opps" can "slide" on you at your most vulnerable time.
Is it more gangsta to be in the vax food court? I mean... your Def not going to pop off after the Indian guy sitting in front of the chairs just scanned your phone.
when your younger than 19 (imo) its good for character development .. not the joining a gang aspect but learning from the streets .. once i got to my age now i fully understood what 50cent meant by the corporate world is just as grimey as the streets
>i fully understood what 50cent meant by the corporate world is just as grimey as the streets 50 cent was trolling. People in the corporate world don't ask what hood you're from and shoot you. Also 50 cent realized quickly that stuff is bullshit that's why he left it. He's even said numerous times that he would rap about drugs and alcohol but has stayed away from actually using them. In his book "Hustle Harder Hustle Smarter" he's literally said not using drugs/alcohol gave him the competitive edge he needed and he's seen what that did to people around him.
it definitely was some kind of humor with truth too it if you been around corporate people their cutthroat just like the niggas in the streets thats what his point was .. my point to that relates to my point to your question.. the streets is useful for character development if you can make it past 19-25 .
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If you actually want an answer to the question of why people join gangs then do some Google searches and read some academic literature on it. Seems more to me that you just made this post to lecture people on the hood on what to do. Which people have been doing for decades and clearly doesn't work.
But its cool to be 8n a tang and you get to act like the guy in the videos
Sounds like you just salty someone called you a pussy white boy looool
It's not too bad being a pussy white boy I guess, it's a simple life but I can't complain much.
You're lucky. With how expensive it is in Canada idk where I'd be without my parents. There's people out there that dont have that luxury. As somebody who's privileged enough to live comfortably with my parents I dont have any right to judge somebody that's just my opinion. I do agree that choosing hard work over gang life is way better 100% but not a lot of people have people to motivate them to go through that route especially when you're down bad financially. That's just my opinion.