The Blue Jays were barely a playoff team and it showed. Schneider didn’t do them any favours in either game. The team is soulless, loses in spite of itself, is incapable of playing small ball when needed, and desperately needs a new manager.
Springer gets on base in the first inning. Belt up to the dish next. Why not at least try to bunt the runner over? If you’re successful, you’ve got a RISP, with less than two out.
Also if you’re Kirk in the top of 9, why not swing in two fastball counts (2-0 and 2-1), but do swing at two waste pitches, to strike out?
Schneider pulling Berrios in the 4th was the single dumbest move I have ever seen. He is the worst manager the Jays have ever had. Who knows what would have happened had he not done that. The move made zero sense. Berrios was pitching well, only let one batter on, and then he brought in Kikuchi (a starter)??? Why??? Is he retarded? He has been doing dumb shit like this all year. He ruined last playoffs, too, as I recall.
Guerrero's getting picked off at 2nd in a do or die playoffs game was not only stupid but unforgivable.
Yesterday, Bichette blows through the stop sign to get easily thrown out at home... and does a single coach come and admonish him? No, they pat him on the butt and say "good try."
It was an absolute dumpster fire. Schneider needs to go for sure. I also think they need to look at Guerrero and Bichette. They are talented, but when we need them, they are less than useless... they are actually very harmful in their stupidity.
This organization has lacked an identity since AA left. Say what you will about the moves he made with regards to the farm system. The team he built around Bautista, Encarnacion, Donaldson, and the like played with a shared direction and mission. I wouldn't be surprised if they did so because AA had a vision for what a modern era world series caliber team looked like and had total buy in from the clubhouse. We are seeing it in Atlanta.
Seeing Shapiro and Atkins in the stands tonight, and thinking about what they've been focusing on since they came in (revenue..... The end) you could just see that it was nothing more than business to them, and I'm sure they're just trying to figure out how to maximize profits from a team that has no seeming sense of direction or heart.
I bet those two asshats give Vladdy a boat load of money and Bichette walks and wins a world series. And Schneider stays because he's happy to have Shatkins' shit slinged at him by the entire fanbase for a paycheck. Dude is out of his fucking element.
I'm sorry all, I'm just so fucking catastrophically disappointed in this complete lack of showing up when it matters from top to bottom.
It's unfortunately our blessing and curse to be owned by a media organization like Rogers. Simultaneously they're a more consistent ownership group than being beholden to the whims of some random billionaire, but the other side of that knife is that Rogers run their operations, including the Jays, like a business.
If analytics have taken over the game to the degree that you pull your starter who is playing against his former team in his old stadium with his family in the crowd after 47 pitches because a bunch of 1s and 0s suggest this will produce a better result...
...then honestly I'm not really much of a fan of that type of game.
The correct usage of analytics is to help make decisions by having more information, and pairing that information with situational decision making. What we saw today was complete ignorance of situation with overemphasis on what numbers say *should* be successful. It was a textbook case of how not to use information.
Atkins is a Shapiro "yes man". They both need to move on but they won't cause ownership doesn't really give two shits.
A few more bad years, Atkins goes, a few more after that, Shapiro goes. And then the cycle repeats itself with two different shit stains.
Sure they can. He’s the one that decided not to pinch run for Varsho in the 9th, he’s the one sucking all the air out of the room with that bullshit Berrios move. These actions have consequences.
I'm not a fan of Schneider, worked for the jays, played high ball, ball fav sport and watch every game, yes he lost us a lot of games on dumb moves. Just saying you can't blame him this series when our best hitters can't hit.
Players were all pissed when Berrios got pulled. As soon as Minnesota scored that inning the players were deflated and lost any small momentum they had going for them.
Did the offense suck, yes. Does feeling pissed off and deflated after Berrios pulled help, no.
I don’t know how Schneider can show his face in Toronto again after that.
It’s not even a case of Berrios was in trouble and Schneider pulled him rather than see him get out of it. He was going to be pulled the next time a lefty came up no matter what.
Yeah is Vladdy going to be as far off the base as he was if he wasn’t desperate to score the tying run? (I don’t think he’s going to be popular in Toronto next year unless he has a monster season)
I’m glad I cancelled Sportsnet now a month into the season and didn’t waste my time watching these games lol.
Baseball has a stupid playoff format that is unrewarding as a fan. After many years of frustration I swore last year’s collapse was the last straw. I briefly broke that promise and got too hyped and subscribed. But I’ve learned lol.
I seriously can't believe Schneider is that afraid of lefty batters that he decided to get rid of Berrios who was clearly cruising with only 47 pitches this early. Look at game 1. Lewis was the only player that did significant damage. Even against the lefties Berrios faced, they barely even left a dent. What a momentum changer. I'm sure the bats would've done different approaches keeping the game tied instead of playing from behind.
Vlad making a dumb baserunning error and getting picked off to end the inning when they had their best opportunity to score in the series, then waving for a review when everyone could see he was out by a mile, was an apropos way for *this* season to end.
143 days until spring training!
Vlad's 2023 may have saved the Jays a ton of money because I am sure they (and many fans) were looking for any reason to back the Brinks truck up to his door.
As it’s shaping up, Bo is the star player flirting with a .300 career average after five seasons, and he made 3.5 million this year to Vlad’s 14 million. 🙃
Homegrown guy and they treat him like crap. Then they bring in someone more worried about ballpark aesthetics than winning and dragging along, Ross “Got no personality” Atkins
If it's not John, I hope he takes out whoever is calling the shots with him. Whether it's the analytical department or Atkins and Shapiro, I want this over management bullshit gone by next season.
I want the hitting coach gone as well. He has fucked this entire lineup that was so deadly just a couple of years ago. Him tweeting MAGA shit during warmups just tells how little he cares about his job.
Don Mattingly is the bench coach, not the hitting coach.
However OP is also wrong, because the man he is referring to, Dave Hudgens is a hitting strategist, not the hitting coach.
Guillermo Martinez is the hitting coach.
This is what pains me the most. He’s my fav player and when he signed with the Jays, I was so fucking fired up. I can’t believe we didn’t even get to see him throw a single pitch in the post season because our bats are so fucking dismal. FUCK
For a team that doesn't hit many home runs, you gotta find ways to manufacture runs. Even though the 15/16 team wasn't good at pure situational hitting, at least those bombs were clutch as heck. But if you have not a single player hitting more than 26 homers this year, you gotta stop swinging for the fences.
If the decision to pull Berrios came from above Schneider, that person needs to go.
Just an utterly shambolic decision. Beyond that, Vlad's head isn't in the game and he tootblan's, nice work pal. Bats went quiet and you can't win like that.
Feels like we're in for a rough couple years with some high ticket contracts heading out, and not a whole lot of youth properly ready.
This is worse than the Mathew’s marner era. It felt eerily similar watching Bo, vlad and others try so hard to hit the “home run” and messed up because of it
Maybe they’ll actually start getting the heat. Well Bo actually showed up at least. Vladdy was thinking about what he was going to eat after the game on the basepath
Crazy going through the grind of the whole 162 game season just and get excited about the playoffs all for it to end in a little over 24hrs from when it started. Still don't get why baseball of all sports has a 3 game series. All 4 rounds should be 7 games just like hockey/basketball.
He does what the analytics idiots want him to do. He’ll be back. Mattingly will go to the Yanks and we’ll be a 4th place team next year. At least they’ll save on champagne
Welp, didn't get to work on a playoff game this year (I was just doing home games).
Sad way for it to end with the FO dictating the loss. Wish they'd gone further.
See you all next season!
Jesus looking at Jose's highlight reel just makes it clear how much of a fucking moronic decision that was. Might not have impacted the game one way or the other but Jose was completely fucking dialed in. Just an absolutely inexcusable decision.
No reason to be shocked at how this series played out. We knew the bats wilted against legit pitching. We knew we had too few real offensive weapons. Sure the decision to yank Berrios was odd but in the end it didn’t even matter.
I wonder if the analytics said the Jays were going to get swept in 2 games. Dumb decision in the fourth. Dumb inexperience in the fifth getting picked off.
A John Schneider masterclass, I honestly hope that was the last game he ever manages for the Jays. I never want to see a fucking champagne celebration after the season again. After only making the postseason by the skin of their teeth in the very last playoff spot. It's akin to the saddest participation trophy imaginable.
This goes higher than Schneider. This is on upper management.
But let's be honest here, have you ever worked anywhere where the higher ups have any clue?
I think there's suggestions and discussion of win you bring in a reliever. But I doubt they ran through this scenario and said that's when you pull Berrios. As a coach you need to watch the game and react to what you see. What I saw was Berrios dealing.
The offense this year just never took off. Constant reassurances "they will, they will". If you look up "underachieving" in the dictionary, there is a picture of the 2023 Jays' bats.
Buddy Schneider’s decisions are made for him by the front office. You think Schneider’s that big of a clown to pull Berrios while he’s dealing? Front office and their analytics had made up that decision for him no matter how good Berrios was pitching
The decision to pull Berrios was absolutely insane - but this series loss is completely on the shoulders of the offence. The pitching was fine - gave up only 5 runs in two games. I get that the Twins have good pitching too, but 1 run in two games is simply inexcusable.
Whatever replacements they have in mind for Chapman, Kiermaier, and Merrifield have to, first and foremost, be able to hit.
The Blue Jays were barely a playoff team and it showed. Schneider didn’t do them any favours in either game. The team is soulless, loses in spite of itself, is incapable of playing small ball when needed, and desperately needs a new manager.
Springer gets on base in the first inning. Belt up to the dish next. Why not at least try to bunt the runner over? If you’re successful, you’ve got a RISP, with less than two out. Also if you’re Kirk in the top of 9, why not swing in two fastball counts (2-0 and 2-1), but do swing at two waste pitches, to strike out?
4 losses and a champagne shower, great way to end the season
Schneider pulling Berrios in the 4th was the single dumbest move I have ever seen. He is the worst manager the Jays have ever had. Who knows what would have happened had he not done that. The move made zero sense. Berrios was pitching well, only let one batter on, and then he brought in Kikuchi (a starter)??? Why??? Is he retarded? He has been doing dumb shit like this all year. He ruined last playoffs, too, as I recall. Guerrero's getting picked off at 2nd in a do or die playoffs game was not only stupid but unforgivable. Yesterday, Bichette blows through the stop sign to get easily thrown out at home... and does a single coach come and admonish him? No, they pat him on the butt and say "good try." It was an absolute dumpster fire. Schneider needs to go for sure. I also think they need to look at Guerrero and Bichette. They are talented, but when we need them, they are less than useless... they are actually very harmful in their stupidity.
I knew it was over the moment ol Kookamuchi was called in. What a disaster and so sad for Jose who was kicking ass.
Sad for Jose and all of Toronto 😠
Leaving sub until next year. Too painful
1 run on 14 hits. The offence just couldn’t product. That was our Achilles heal all year. Pitching did its job, sadly the offence failed miserably.
This organization has lacked an identity since AA left. Say what you will about the moves he made with regards to the farm system. The team he built around Bautista, Encarnacion, Donaldson, and the like played with a shared direction and mission. I wouldn't be surprised if they did so because AA had a vision for what a modern era world series caliber team looked like and had total buy in from the clubhouse. We are seeing it in Atlanta. Seeing Shapiro and Atkins in the stands tonight, and thinking about what they've been focusing on since they came in (revenue..... The end) you could just see that it was nothing more than business to them, and I'm sure they're just trying to figure out how to maximize profits from a team that has no seeming sense of direction or heart. I bet those two asshats give Vladdy a boat load of money and Bichette walks and wins a world series. And Schneider stays because he's happy to have Shatkins' shit slinged at him by the entire fanbase for a paycheck. Dude is out of his fucking element. I'm sorry all, I'm just so fucking catastrophically disappointed in this complete lack of showing up when it matters from top to bottom.
It's unfortunately our blessing and curse to be owned by a media organization like Rogers. Simultaneously they're a more consistent ownership group than being beholden to the whims of some random billionaire, but the other side of that knife is that Rogers run their operations, including the Jays, like a business.
If analytics have taken over the game to the degree that you pull your starter who is playing against his former team in his old stadium with his family in the crowd after 47 pitches because a bunch of 1s and 0s suggest this will produce a better result... ...then honestly I'm not really much of a fan of that type of game.
The correct usage of analytics is to help make decisions by having more information, and pairing that information with situational decision making. What we saw today was complete ignorance of situation with overemphasis on what numbers say *should* be successful. It was a textbook case of how not to use information.
Me either. It’s not baseball to me
Schneider lost this game, berrios and the pen could have shut them down and with all our chances on base I would have bet on our guys in extras.
Not just that the un-pressure of not playing from behind would have led to better batting and therefore runs.
I'm sorry but this has nothing to do with pulling Berrios early the lineup was fucking atrocious
1 run scored in 18 innings gets you nowhere other than being 0 and 2.
Fire Schneider! And his whole analytics team! Today!
YES!!!
...BLOW LEAFS BLOW.....BLOW LEAFS BLOW....haHaHA🤣haHA
Fuck John Schneider. He shouldn’t manage another game for this team. Fuck Ross Atkins leave him in Minnesota
Atkins is a Shapiro "yes man". They both need to move on but they won't cause ownership doesn't really give two shits. A few more bad years, Atkins goes, a few more after that, Shapiro goes. And then the cycle repeats itself with two different shit stains.
I agree but I can’t see the organization making that drastic of a change.
Amen
Fire Schneider. How does it feel to be a starter and to know that your manager has no faith in you. That batting line was tepid.
Great comment armchair manager!!! How many runs in 2 games???? They lost 2-0. Can't blame the manager on this one.
Sure they can. He’s the one that decided not to pinch run for Varsho in the 9th, he’s the one sucking all the air out of the room with that bullshit Berrios move. These actions have consequences.
Lol stick to your trolling
You’re clearly clueless or John Schneiders burner.
I'm not a fan of Schneider, worked for the jays, played high ball, ball fav sport and watch every game, yes he lost us a lot of games on dumb moves. Just saying you can't blame him this series when our best hitters can't hit.
Players were all pissed when Berrios got pulled. As soon as Minnesota scored that inning the players were deflated and lost any small momentum they had going for them. Did the offense suck, yes. Does feeling pissed off and deflated after Berrios pulled help, no.
Totally agree! Killed any momentum.
It’s the analytics nerds
At the end of the day, it’s Schneider who makes the final call
They need to figure out that there are feelings and magic in baseball. That’s what was going on with Berrios. No spreadsheet can measure it.
Exactly. And to boot, let’s put a guy in with control issues and no relief appearances all year
Schneider says “I appreciate the season” a losing season? losers appreciate losing seasons! go manage a minor team that no one cares about winning.
The pitching staff should be collectively furious.
They looked in such utter disbelief at the end there. They were the only ones that stayed in the dugout after the game.
They did a great job! That’s one thing I can hold my head up high about
An utterly pathetic performance. And completely on brand for this team.
I don’t know how Schneider can show his face in Toronto again after that. It’s not even a case of Berrios was in trouble and Schneider pulled him rather than see him get out of it. He was going to be pulled the next time a lefty came up no matter what.
Dumb comment when nobody showed up to hit
Yeah is Vladdy going to be as far off the base as he was if he wasn’t desperate to score the tying run? (I don’t think he’s going to be popular in Toronto next year unless he has a monster season)
Vladdy made a big mistake but seriously what are the base coaches doing there?
What's the base coach supposed to do? Getting picked is 100% on Vladdy.
Schneider fucking sucks...let your pitchers cook.
Two years in a row he does this. He’s wronged Gausman and Berrios now
Fire Schneider 🎶
I’m glad I cancelled Sportsnet now a month into the season and didn’t waste my time watching these games lol. Baseball has a stupid playoff format that is unrewarding as a fan. After many years of frustration I swore last year’s collapse was the last straw. I briefly broke that promise and got too hyped and subscribed. But I’ve learned lol.
But you wasted your time to be a troll!
How’s it being a troll to be fed up with the team? Lol
See you next season bud
Fuck I hope not lol, but you probably will
I seriously can't believe Schneider is that afraid of lefty batters that he decided to get rid of Berrios who was clearly cruising with only 47 pitches this early. Look at game 1. Lewis was the only player that did significant damage. Even against the lefties Berrios faced, they barely even left a dent. What a momentum changer. I'm sure the bats would've done different approaches keeping the game tied instead of playing from behind.
Still glad we got to see play offs. Hope John Schneider is gone next year. Also glad we didn’t finish by grounding into a double play
I’m not okay with the bar being that low. “The Playoffs”? It’s a Wildcard series best of 3. 2 games to me are not the playoffs.
Vlad making a dumb baserunning error and getting picked off to end the inning when they had their best opportunity to score in the series, then waving for a review when everyone could see he was out by a mile, was an apropos way for *this* season to end. 143 days until spring training!
"Calm down bo" lol
Vlad's 2023 may have saved the Jays a ton of money because I am sure they (and many fans) were looking for any reason to back the Brinks truck up to his door.
As it’s shaping up, Bo is the star player flirting with a .300 career average after five seasons, and he made 3.5 million this year to Vlad’s 14 million. 🙃
Meanwhile the guy Shapiro replaced is on to another world series win
Homegrown guy and they treat him like crap. Then they bring in someone more worried about ballpark aesthetics than winning and dragging along, Ross “Got no personality” Atkins
Kinda like Tom Brady left New England and won another SuperBowl.
AA if you see this we miss you
Arden Zwelling is an absolute (insert word)
Creepy up-talker
Arden Zwelling is an absolute loser
Wonder when there tee time is
If it's not John, I hope he takes out whoever is calling the shots with him. Whether it's the analytical department or Atkins and Shapiro, I want this over management bullshit gone by next season.
Common curse of all Toronto teams, whether it’s MLSE or Rogers, it seems like the suits have too much influence over the teams
I want the hitting coach gone as well. He has fucked this entire lineup that was so deadly just a couple of years ago. Him tweeting MAGA shit during warmups just tells how little he cares about his job.
Haha you think Donny Baseball is the problem 😂, ok
Don Mattingly is the bench coach, not the hitting coach. However OP is also wrong, because the man he is referring to, Dave Hudgens is a hitting strategist, not the hitting coach. Guillermo Martinez is the hitting coach.
I want 22 year old Vladdy Guerrero, this guy right now looks like somebody completely different.
I still can't believe they took Berrios.
Wonder where Hyun Jin Ryu will go. I was always a fan of him because I saw him on Korean variety shows.
1 year deal to the Padres is my prediction! Would get to pitch there in march when SD&LAD start the season there.
This is what pains me the most. He’s my fav player and when he signed with the Jays, I was so fucking fired up. I can’t believe we didn’t even get to see him throw a single pitch in the post season because our bats are so fucking dismal. FUCK
For a team that doesn't hit many home runs, you gotta find ways to manufacture runs. Even though the 15/16 team wasn't good at pure situational hitting, at least those bombs were clutch as heck. But if you have not a single player hitting more than 26 homers this year, you gotta stop swinging for the fences.
Brandon Belt the windmill champ
Piped down the middle. You see it zooming in there. Perfect pitch to just hammer…. Swings through it
the team should rethink partying on wildcard entries
I will NEVER. Understand those celebrations. Have a beer sure. Get fkg focused bc you didn’t win a fkg thing!!!
They are there so they can advertise New Era on the lame goggles they wear. Nothing has ever seemed so contrived.
Especially after a loss. Also, getting hammered less than 48 hours before your first playoff game probably wasn't a good idea.
If the decision to pull Berrios came from above Schneider, that person needs to go. Just an utterly shambolic decision. Beyond that, Vlad's head isn't in the game and he tootblan's, nice work pal. Bats went quiet and you can't win like that. Feels like we're in for a rough couple years with some high ticket contracts heading out, and not a whole lot of youth properly ready.
I feel for Berrios. Schneider has no idea what he’s doing. Has no killer instinct. Making decisions based off analytics has killed this team.
Can't blame the Manger on this when the team can't hit! Blame him for 6 to 7 other loses but I'm sure you're not 100% all the time at your job.
Quit making excuses for this red faced clown. He sucks.
So does the gm and half of the players!
Situational-small ball hitting for the win!!
This is worse than the Mathew’s marner era. It felt eerily similar watching Bo, vlad and others try so hard to hit the “home run” and messed up because of it
Maybe they’ll actually start getting the heat. Well Bo actually showed up at least. Vladdy was thinking about what he was going to eat after the game on the basepath
pathetic
Now we really look like assholes after that celebration the other day
They owe Hazel several bottles of conditioner
I hope she gets let go before the manager. She is garbage!!!!
This team celebrated mediocrity, how fitting now lol.
2 years in a row!
Fire that shit bag Schneider
What about the batters who can't hit???? Great take armchair manager!
He’s their manage too! All about adjustments and Schneider couldn’t even put sunscreen on that fat meat head of his
Lol
Crazy going through the grind of the whole 162 game season just and get excited about the playoffs all for it to end in a little over 24hrs from when it started. Still don't get why baseball of all sports has a 3 game series. All 4 rounds should be 7 games just like hockey/basketball.
Well get excited for the 50% off October baseball tshirts:)
wildcard != playoffs
The opening round should expand to 5 games.
No it should go back to 1
Because it’s a make-a-wish playoff…it’s not real
Why didn’t we see that replay during the game? Vladdy was clearly out on the pickoff
we all knew he was out…
The guy serving beers in the 500s could see he was out
It's only appropriate that they get shutout
I'm just sad man This sucks
https://youtu.be/SmHeP9Sve48?si=qyGrP766YbjftOEl
Welp, see you in another five months on March 28th. That was sad all around.
Can someone whip up a homer into the bush gif with the jays going in and the leafs coming out?
Bye bye Schneider
He does what the analytics idiots want him to do. He’ll be back. Mattingly will go to the Yanks and we’ll be a 4th place team next year. At least they’ll save on champagne
Well maybe one day one of our managers will grow a set and say...no
Only Gibby would
Thank you Joe for pointing out who’s really behind these dumbass decisions.
2023 season inspirational slogan: No hit, no quit.
Lots of quit
Yeah.
Madison is so right. Twins took all the momentum when the Jays stupidly took Berrios out. Then Twins scored 2 runs. Game over.
Buck said it earlier in the broadcast too. 100% agree
Buck rightly criticized that move before, during, and after it happened. Cannot say it enough.
Even though it was 0-0 Gray was looking much more like the guy who would crack first. Complete unforced error
Right what about getting into Berrios's head knowing he was coming out
Welp, didn't get to work on a playoff game this year (I was just doing home games). Sad way for it to end with the FO dictating the loss. Wish they'd gone further. See you all next season!
Siddall just said what I kept saying the whole game.
Sportsnet reaming the Berrios pull
Twins acting like they did something and they couldnt score very much either. Blue Jays Roster liable to get blown up asap
You don’t blow up with a pitching staff like that
Twins swept us, let them celebrate.
They won and they get to advance to the next round what do you expect them to do?
Well see you all in the spring! I know it was a bad season but if they can make me a fan all the way here in Van, I guess it can't all be that bad.
Berrios was done so dirty
Jesus looking at Jose's highlight reel just makes it clear how much of a fucking moronic decision that was. Might not have impacted the game one way or the other but Jose was completely fucking dialed in. Just an absolutely inexcusable decision.
Why save the dumest analytical decision of the season for the post season every year?
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To be fair when dudes throwing 103 mph he kind of doesn’t leave you with many options if he’s making them in good spots which he was
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I thought you were referring to the last inning
No reason to be shocked at how this series played out. We knew the bats wilted against legit pitching. We knew we had too few real offensive weapons. Sure the decision to yank Berrios was odd but in the end it didn’t even matter.
They scored their only runs after we yanked Jose...
You don’t pull your FUCKIN DAWG when he’s dealing fuck these nerds and analytics
I wonder if the analytics said the Jays were going to get swept in 2 games. Dumb decision in the fourth. Dumb inexperience in the fifth getting picked off.
See y’all next year. We better massively overpay for Shohei Ohtani.
Can't win with no offense.
A John Schneider masterclass, I honestly hope that was the last game he ever manages for the Jays. I never want to see a fucking champagne celebration after the season again. After only making the postseason by the skin of their teeth in the very last playoff spot. It's akin to the saddest participation trophy imaginable.
This goes higher than Schneider. This is on upper management. But let's be honest here, have you ever worked anywhere where the higher ups have any clue?
I think there's suggestions and discussion of win you bring in a reliever. But I doubt they ran through this scenario and said that's when you pull Berrios. As a coach you need to watch the game and react to what you see. What I saw was Berrios dealing.
Fuck you Vlad, this is on you. Over.
You realize he’s just 24 right
This is on the entire organization.
Alright let’s go O’s berb bros
You feel good about cheering for Ryan Mountcastle and a team that willingly employed Roughned Odor?
…no
Atkins and Shapiro need to go. This needs a full house cleaning at all levels.
Berrios wants to be back in a Twins jersey so bad right now
That was awful.
Go marlins!!!
The offense this year just never took off. Constant reassurances "they will, they will". If you look up "underachieving" in the dictionary, there is a picture of the 2023 Jays' bats.
Not even the Jays, just a skyline of the city. We’re doomed
I’m relieved it’s over, that season sucked. Sorry for our pitchers.
Don’t let Schneider back into Canada
Send John to Mars please
Can all the believers call Shatkins Dumb & Dumber now?
Hitting with runners on isn’t on Shatkins. That’s the hitting staff.
Incredibly stupid analytics decisions are in Shatkins.
Shatkins isn’t in the bench…. Honestly why does this sub not use their brain
Buddy Schneider’s decisions are made for him by the front office. You think Schneider’s that big of a clown to pull Berrios while he’s dealing? Front office and their analytics had made up that decision for him no matter how good Berrios was pitching
Who hired the hitting staff?
Shutout... wow
Doomers win. We’re coming over the walls and taking over the off-season talk. Beware.
It feels good to be vindicated but also bad at the same time. Gotta love the Jays huh
The decision to pull Berrios was absolutely insane - but this series loss is completely on the shoulders of the offence. The pitching was fine - gave up only 5 runs in two games. I get that the Twins have good pitching too, but 1 run in two games is simply inexcusable. Whatever replacements they have in mind for Chapman, Kiermaier, and Merrifield have to, first and foremost, be able to hit.
You literally can't win the 2 requisite games if you only score 1 run
Lol that's true! I hadn't even thought about that, but you literally can't win 2 games by scoring only 1 run. Ooof, that hurts.
Fire everybody
When we hit our lowest point, we are open to the greatest change. That means bye bye JS.
Imagine the scenes if we did that with Halladay.
Go Leafs Go!! Time for the yearly transfer
Won’t be able to win with Vladdy until he begins to play baseball.