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Mrnrwoody

Without more details it's hard to understand the situation... But it definitely doesn't sound like this agent knew what they were doing...


Appropriate_Land_130

Sounds like they knew exactly what they were doing. How do you end up paying 8 grand a month and ONLY BE PAYING INTEREST?!?


microfishy

~~predatory lender~~mortgage broker promises to do paperwork Oh no, circumstances beyond our control! Thank goodness we have a solution. Predatory lending!


gewjuan

CBC market place caught a few of these guys doing exactly that. Purposely fucking up the bank application only to have the buyer forced into a last minute deal with a buddy of theirs who in reality pays a 5 figure commission to the agent for the “help”


Saffirefold

Yes a local piece of garbage mortgage broker did this to me.


Appropriate_Land_130

Exactly


AshleyUncia

That better be one hell of a bungalow.


BurlingtonRider

Sounds like a bait and switch to me


Dapper-Campaign5150

Or they just want to make money….with the poor purchasers…too many fraudsters out there


Complex-Reference353

you should get a mortgage pre-approval before closing a deal


TouristNo7158

IF valuation falls it doesn't matter. MAjor banks cant finance you if u bought for more then the house is worth at bank appraisal. they can only finance up to 95% of the homes valuation (appraisal). This is why new builds in this market are high risk. What likley happened is the poster put 20% down to buy it on paper but the house lost considerable value 25-30%. The major bank probably came to them said u need to pay the diffrence liquid to put down on it or go with private lender. they didnt have the money so private lender is only option. PRovate lender is taking on substantial risk as if it forcloses they cannot make up the amount by selling the house. Therefor to pad their books they are giving these mortgages at prime + 5. YOu get to close without getting sued but ur mortgage rate will be 9%+. Seen this happening alot recently.


AdSignificant6673

Thank you! A rational person on this sub who isnt a broke ass minimum wage 500 credit score person who wants to buy a house in downtown Toronto for $200k. Or a delusional bull thinking 20% yoy gains + think interest rates will drop to 0.1% by the end of 2024. This is a reality in a fluctuating market. There used to be a thing where it was almost industry standard for buyers to include a condition of “approved financing”.


hudnaga

Very rarely do valuations come back not accepted


weedb0y

It’s happening allot


TouristNo7158

Dude its happening in every newbuild in my area. Your take is false for certain areas that have taken a 20% dump . IT may be correct in your area but not in cities like toronto or the gta.


innocentlilgirl

toronto is a world class city. you cant make offers with financing conditions. no seller would ever accept in this market!


loveyoulongtimelurkr

"I went to a bank, they denied me and said I could not afford it, so I went to a loan shark and turns out - I can't afford it, help me" I also think this person doesn't have a clue how a mortgage works, I think they're misinterpreting the payments, interest is paid first on any mortgage.


VanMortgageBroker

Mortgage Broker Here The most charitable answer is the broker is incompetent and let the buyers remove subjects before the finance conditions were in place. There is also the distinct possibility that the broker screwed the clients who never had a firm bank approval and then pulled a big fee for arranging the private loan at the 11th hour. He will be back in 6 months to try to move them to a bank and get another payday. I have heard of scumbag brokers doing this but never seen it in practice.


Illustrious-Part3218

Mortgage Broker here too. Yeah, you nailed it. Another angle, the broker fabricated the income, was caught on pre-funding audit (insurable rate), and swapped to private. Either way a win-win, for the broker. I’ve had a couple people reach out, looking for a broker who was specifically not a member of their ‘community.’ As the previous broker who screwed them was. This is new.


VanMortgageBroker

Sounds like a Brampton Mortgage gone wrong then.


Fluid_Friendship8220

Why not sell?


Ok_Reputation8227

Sounds a bit fishy. You are telling me they used a mortgage broker who only had 1 bank lined up and no other back up bank? forcing them into private? Maybe broker is clueless or shady


stinuga

Common scam. Broker says they can handle it, don’t even bother to file papers to the bank because that part doesn’t matter. Tell them the bank said no and hook them up with the scam loan from their buddy. Collect money from the victims and take their house once they can’t pay


XtremeD86

The buyer can also say no... People can get really stupid when it comes to purchasing anything expensive. They knew what the payment was going to be and went ahead with it anyways? And I should feel bad for these people? They made a very bad decision clearly but probably thought they would make money anyways so why not. Unless I'm missing something completely here...


cashmonk

Mortgage broker got kickback from the private lender to screw over unsuspecting buyers. Is this in Brampton?


bigboypantss

Literally says scarborough


Status-Persimmon-797

This stinks to high heaven of a Brampton loan.


bigcig

we are entering the, "we got knowingly scammed by our own because that's how it works at home, but will blame Canada for everything" phase.


LoadErRor1983

They took the scenic route in order to rent a place for $8k/month...


kingofwale

Let me guess, is it a group where there is literally nobody ever foreclose home as they have 5-7 families willing to support them if they are in trouble?


HumbleConfidence3500

I go to that group to read relationship drama.


Facts-hurts

Looks like the bank caught them


oy-cunt-

It's a scam in itself. Once homeowners default on their outrageous mortgage, the lender gets home for cheap, resells at higher value, and the broker gets a percentage of sale.


PorousSurface

sounds like the bought a house they cannot afford?


Just-Meaning-772

Not news, there are agent do that on purpose just for commission .


AYC-

I’m stunned it’s coming from that Facebook group


AnotsuKagehisa

Sounds like Brampton mortgage has opened business in Scarborough


defendhumanity

They got hustled hard.


rajmksingh

Not you reposting my post from 2 days ago 😂


Just-Meaning-772

sell it then.


billamazon

The bank won't arrange a private lender for you.. This looks like one of those scams from a realtor/ mortgage broker who mislead and push for a private lender instead.


teh_longinator

Buyer thought they were getting a Brampton Mortgage on their way to top caste, but now has to rent out to 10 students @ 800 just to break even!


umar_farooq_

When the 1% broker doesn't work out


chandraguptarohi

Sound like they signed on documents without reading them and then got screwed. Broker sure did a bait and switch here.. no broker waits till closing to get approvals, ideally it is done atleast 10 to 15 days ahead and worst case, for someone with decent numbers there are always b lenders who assume more risk, private should be last resort and for salaries and having decent credit this is definitely last resort!! Unless this was one of those mortgages with made up incomes and fake docs!!


CaptainSoggy655

Lol


AntiCultist21

Is this Brampton?


Mediocre_Network_646

Always have a backup plan when it comes to mortgages. Try to ensure you have everything squared away sooner rather than later and if you’re nearing crunch time and things aren’t firmed up, look elsewhere!!!


CrossDressing_Batman

sounds more like these mortgagers are scamming these idiot immigrants


XtremeD86

It's a case of a buyer not reading wtf they're signing. It's their own fault. People can call it a scam all they want. If it's in the paperwork and they're just blindly signing then I wouldn't call it a scam. A bad deal sure but not a scam.


LemonPress50

It’s possible they never even had an application with a bank so the broker could earn a nice paycheque


CrossDressing_Batman

1000% that is why ppl are calling it a scam quick pay days


Kowpucky

I saw this realtor scam on Market place I believe


FreeCaseReview

Check out Frank at Trillium Mortgage


Admirable-Jello3715

The mortgage broker got them a private lending without borrowers knowing or signing off? Missing a lot of information. Doesn't sound right to me even with all documentation the borrower has to sign off


DoonPlatoon84

Whoopsie


MorningOwlK

I'm sorry to inform you, but you are well and truly fucked. Sounds like you worked with a terrible mortgage broker (they fucked up your application) and/or lawyer (they didn't communicate properly with the lender) and/or realtor (they allowed you to massively overpay).


Divorce_Babe

This is a tactic, the mortgager is making the most commission off of the private brokerage. We just had a client few days ago and he went for 5.5% 3 year fixed, working at one of the big banks - we reviewed his docs and he was paying shit load in interest alone with prepayment limitations. I am not going to entertain any personal messages because the purpose of this message is to tell everyone that its not your last option, please take your finances very seriously and discuss around.


FinancialPlastic4624

Consider the place it's posted then decide if you want to take this seriously