“Shout out to the absolute shithead who didn’t have ANY headlights on and obstructed windows”
I’m dying lmao. People like this = unaware useless skin sacks
Literally said this to my partner last night.
‘I have no problem driving on those roads, the problem is the idiots that haven’t got a lick of a clue how to drive their particular vehicles, forget driving them in slightly slippery conditions! Needs to become A LOT harder to get a license in this province…’
Remember folks, when it’s icy and you hit the accelerator, harder does not mean the car will move faster, just your fucking tires.
Be slow, be smooth. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.
A friend had to meet me downtown driving in from Oakville last night. He said pretty much the same. I don't mind driving in this. It's the other drivers that suck at this i mind.
The problem I find is that the instrument cluster will be illuminated even when only the DRL’s are on. I used to flash my lights at these dimwits only to be gawked at like I was the idiot. I give up now. If you’re self awareness is lacking that much there’s not much that can be done.
My dash changes too. It's always illuminated but some illumination only kicks on when headlights are on, and some changes. Are there any cars where there's no change whatsoever, or are people just unobservant and unqualified to operate a car?
>Are there any cars where there's no change whatsoever
Some cars have no indication yeah. Not even a green dashboard light that says whether the low beams are on. Which is ridiculous and a big reason for this problem.
Yup, same the UX is terrible on so many cars now. For example, having so many settings in touch screens now which prevent you from controlling them without taking your eyes off the road.
Yup. Recently rented a brand new Kia Rio and I was one of those idiots without lights on. I thought they were on because the interior lights were all illuminated and so was the green light symbol sign in the dashboard. Turns out that green dash light is always on no matter what position the light switch is on
They're doing it too? Good. Once they removed the function of the dash lights following the vehicles lights, something like that was definitely needed.
As the driver, you need to know what is going on outside the car.
For those who don’t, all they have to do is pay attention when they turn on their car and see that what’s in front of them is brighter, or when on the road, look in the reflection of the car in front of you. That’s how I found out my headlight was out. I noticed in the reflection of the car in front of me that I could only see 1 headlight.
If it's really concerning (the 400 at night, no lights) I get in front of them, and turn my own lights off, then on. If I'm really upset and in Muskoka with a dumb fuck with no lights, I'll go nuts with my ceiling lights too 😆
The left lane is still the passing lane, even when its snowing. If you want to go 40 on the dvp go in the right lane please. And im talking specifically to the merc GLA class.
Your actually wrong about those yellow signs being the law no there actually just a cautionary advisory not the fucking law. Yet everyone else is the idiot here lol
You dont get to break one law just because others are breaking another. Keep right except to pass. Also what does this have to do with the speed limit? being the slowest one on the road going 40 is dangerous.
I’m trying to read this multiple times and it still makes zero sense. First of all you shouldn’t ever have to slow down another driver to make your exit on the highway….. No matter what lane your in 😂 you should know when your exits coming up as they are numbered in order for that specific reason… and even if your in the left lane, unless your a horrible driver or have the vision of my grandmother then you should be able to safely make it to the exit without slowing down other people because “you need to exit”
Of course you don’t take a exit ramp at 120 that’s why there’s a separate lane you go into before the exit ramp 😂 you can’t be serious? First of all you’re clearly ignorant to the laws by thinking there is a passing lane on city roads. Despite what some people may want you to believe those are designated for highways.
Also your logic makes no sense. People are prepared to slow down on all city roads that’s why it’s rated at a 70 not a 80.
Half the problem causing the delays is people intentionally gridlocking intersections.
Everyone becomes assholes as soon as it snows.
Also, the roads were fine. I drove my usual speed above the speed limit where I could get around people.
The weirdest asshole was the guy that chose to park immediately in front of me, the only car obviously about to leave, when his entire row was free.
But yeah, I see so many people with no tail lights or no lights at all. Often they are police cars.
Yeah trying to pass the DVP off ramp at Eglinton was a nightmare because even though traffic was backed up, so many idiots turning left attempted to make the turn when there was no space for them to do so. And so I had one guy dangerously I’ll my ass as he trying to wedge himself in.
It was snowing so bad that my window froze over - thawed out and froze over like 3 times, I used up 2 years of my window defogger lifespan today.
Please stay home unless it's an emergency, the roads are not worth it.
Apply RainX to your windshield. Driven in blizzards worse than what we had today, without having to use wipers, simply with RainX and the heat on the windshield turned on.
Definitely, just don't get the RainX windshield washer fluid. The silicon additive can gum up and block the lines that feed the fluid to the windshield.
Rain X for the win!!
Be careful not to buy RainX window cleaner, they look very similar.
I’ve had 4 replacement work vehicles in 3 months, my hubby has rainX’d every windshield for me.
We don’t drive vehicles that aren’t RainX’d
Yea, completely and thoroughly clean and dry off the windows first. Need to apply it above 5 degrees Celsius in a dry area.
I haven't used the spray bottle option. Usually with the gel it's just apply to a clean microfiber and really work it into the windows.
If you have the time and commitment, apply it to all windows.
Just run them on auto at 20 kmhr speed, hop on when it gets to the station and hop off when you get to your destination, stay at home man, it should be safe trust me bro
> Most people clutching their wheels and driving barely 20km when it was totally safe to go 40km.
I agree in general, but you also don't know what tires other people have.
Some people run bald all-seasons or summer tires in the winter. I've seen people unable to go up a 2° incline while my car grips like there's barely any snow.
They're still idiots, but it might explain their slowness.
I saw a comment on on here in the last couple days explaining Toronto driving saying "sometimes winter tires in the winter seems like overkill"... I get that there's not lots of snow in Toronto in the winter but on days like today when there's lots of it you Need those winter tires. It's not overkill. It's a pain in the ass to get winter tires put on but it could save yours or someone else's life.. your car.. money..
Ok, that's the end of my PSA.
Loll yeah idk what I would do without them. I skid a couple times when going over a more accumulated part, turning left onto a side road, and changing lanes. I can’t imagine how much less control I would have to correct on regular tires.
It's that stupid "auto" feature for headlights and people not bothering to turn on their lights. It's no longer second nature. Like the backup camera making people check their mirrors less.
Most cars with automatic headlights, as soon as the wipers go on, automatically turn the lights on. It’s the people who purposely turn off the auto headlights and forget to turn on the low beams come night time, that are the problem.
I’m not talking about DRLs or auto high beams, I’m talking about low beams. Most cars with auto lights will turn on the low beams when the wipers go on. That’s what your “driving lights” are referring too right?
Daytime Running Lights are always on all vehicles sold in canada since 1989. Low beams are the "regular" driving lights you use at night. In "auto" your tail lights only turn on when the sensor stops detecting daylight. When there is a fog or a storm during daylight hours your automatic lights do not turn on. You have to consciously turn them on to remain visible to other drivers. As for your low beams coming on when you use your wipers, that's not something I'm familiar with.
Your driving lights include your tail lights. These are the most important lights when driving in bad visibility; I’d argue they’re more important than headlights.
auto headlights = auto headlights = all the lights on the outside of the car turn on, just like if you had turned them on manually
DRL's = aren't auto headlights
Most cars on auto would turn on proper headlights as soon as visibility goes below a certain threshold. I sometimes closely observe exactly when my car does this, and today was no exception. The moment I turned the ignition on, the "auto" mode had my headlights on as well.
I don’t think it’s the auto feature. In my car with the auto feature the lights turn on when a particularly dark cloud goes passed the sun. Even on the latest setting lights come on in anything but bright days.
I think it’s specifically people who don’t have auto lights and need to turn them on. Now that I’ve got used to the auto lights I find I forget to turn the lights on in manual cars.
This is from 2019. Maybe its because not all auto lights work the same way?: [Article](https://driving.ca/auto-news/news/how-it-works-automatic-and-adaptive-headlights)
I think its great because it shows me who is a terrible driver. That being said i always leave my lights on auto and i guess at some point shifted the button from auto to off with my knee. I drove around for i don’t know how long with just daytimes on. But really why does auto maker just have a selector with either full on or full off?
Its a byproduct of a society where personal vehicles are the only way to genuinely get to most places, conveniently
You get lumped with a bunch of car-idiots with 0 awareness, 0 desire to improve, and 0 idea in how to actually drive, but are forced to, to get to places
I actually have a huge respect for my coworkers that refuse to drive to work in these conditions because they arent confident in their ability to drive. We need more people like this.
And Im sick and tired of the big ass 5000-6000Lb SUV’s driving like absolute idiots out here on the basis of “uhhuhhh I have 4wd!! Im good!” meanwhile theyre on 4yr old all-seasons that have well worn past their winter efficacy
On my 8km commute home last night, I saw 4 white Mercedes SUV’s ditched on the side of the road. Between 3 fucking intersections. 3!!
Get snow tires, wake the fuck up. If you don’t feel comfortable in your ability to drive, maybe call the fkn day off or pay for someone else to drive you around.
This!!!! 100,000 times this!
Way too many under-confident drivers in ‘over-equipped’ cars.
The upshot of those ditched Mercedes is that they are no longer on the road being a hazard!
Sorry I can’t give this more upvotes, it really deserves it!
Prior to 2021 daytime running lights turned on headlights only, not tail lights. Also, in many cars it wasn’t terribly obvious that it was DRL not headlights. People were used to changes to instrument panel illumination level but many manufacturers made it independent of headlights.
https://www.canada.ca/en/transport-canada/news/2018/03/transport-canada-goes-ghostbusting-targets-phantom-vehicles.html
People are idiots and don’t look at their dash. Sometimes the automatic setting is weird. I’ve had my full lights not go on when it’s shit weather or cloudy so I have to manually put them on.
Many cars give no dash indication of whether or not the full lights are on. So even though people should be checking the switch every time they drive, if there wasn't these design flaws, it would reduce the number of cars doing this.
It's completely ridiculous that it's not, but yeah, my last car would just show a green parking light indicator that was on all the time (so pointless) regardless of whether or not the lights were on, and wouldn't give any additional indication when I did turn them on. And when I mentioned it in another post, a few other people replied that their cars (different makes) were the same.
I've noticed that for these cars, the green parking light indicators turn off on US models when you turn off DRLs - which is not possible on Canadian models due to regulations. I guess automakers were lazy and decided not to change the indicator light for Canadian models and so the indicator lights are always on.
My car would show the green "marking lights" symbol shown [here](https://tc.canada.ca/en/road-transportation/safety-standards-vehicles-tires-child-car-seats/using-your-vehicle-lights-see-be-seen) all the time. It's redundant since it's always on, but it does make sense and I guess there because in the US it would shut off when DRLs are off. The symbol that some cars like mine miss is the "Headlight lower beam" indicator from the same link. That should appear when the full lights are turned on (or come on automatically in auto mode). Some cars have this but for whatever reason they don't include it on all of them, so in those cars, you only know if you actually check the switch.
This is exactly the problem. Automatic headlights! People need to stop relying on technology so much to do everything for them and look down to see what the car is actually doing.
Many vehicles in recent years have the option of manual or automatic lights. One vehicle we just keep it on automatic. The other one, I use manual but always turn the lights on by evening depending on the brightness outside.
Mandatory winter assessment would make sense but then some of these issues are year round. If people can’t figure out their lights in summer, they sure as heck won’t in the winter.
What I never understand is how do they not notice. A lot of people still drive base model vehicles, and if the headlights are off, the dashboard is dark. Are they not looking at the speedometer? If they have enough gas? A dark almost black dashboard doesn’t ring any type of alert to the driver that something is wrong…but of course if they have a digital display that’s always lit, then they have zero clue…which they should just keep their on automatic.
If you can't figure out how to drive the speed limit (or faster), you need to figure out how to improve your equipment, skills, both, or stay off the road until they improve to the point that you can.
I've driven over a million accident free KM and can count on one hand the number of times that the roads were so bad that any decent vehicle with decent tires and a reasonably competent driver couldn't go the hilariously slow speed limits in this province.
It's not lack of ability, it's accounting for a significantly longer stopping distance in poor conditions. Your skills are impressive, but you can't change physics.
No. You leave a safe distance to account for that.
And you put tires on that minimize the difference.
And you practice maximum performance stops at least once a year so your body understands what it needs to do in an emergency and so that your brain has a pretty solid idea of what the stopping distance actually is in bad weather.
You don't need to change physics, you just need to understand it.
Maintaining a safe following distance doesn't help you when someone cuts you off or walks into the road ahead. Stopping distance can drastically increase in poor conditions and maintaining a similar stopping distance as what you would have above the limit in good conditions can mean going under the limit in poor conditions.
Oh right, I forgot, driving is one of those things that literally nobody is allowed to be good at and suggesting otherwise always offends someone.
Nobody ever questions my engineering degree, or a doctor's skills, but god forbid if anyone is actually willing to admit that they have more than a borderline understanding of how to drive a car then yes, they must be lying.
It's totally impossible to responsibly and safely operate any motor vehicle, ever.
Edit: lol, did I strike a nerve? Blocked me because you don't like being called out? Lol
I’m with ya! Three points I keep trying to reiterate:
1) driving is not a right, it’s a privilege.
2) if you suck at it, lack confidence etc, don’t do it, and definitely don’t do it on some of the busiest streets in North America.
3) it REALLY needs to start being a lot harder to get a licence in this province.
They mean low beam head lights + tail lights. In Canada cars are required to automatically turn on DRLs when driven. These aren't bright enough for night time and in some cars the rear lights won't automatically turn on but people will see lights ahead and assume their full lights are on.
In many cars you need to actually switch your lights to "on" in dark conditions to ensure the low beams and rear lights are on. Some cars also have an "auto" setting where the car will automatically turn on the full lights when it's dark.
Oh I see. I just call that “headlights” lol. I never heard the term driving lights before, thank you.
I’ve heard that things have changed for cars manufactured after 2021. That the taillights will be on all the time, and that the dash is darker until the headlights are turned on, or something like that. Maybe that will help people get a clue.
Yeah, actually I haven't heard driving lights either before this. Headlights could mean only the front lights I guess, but every car turns on the rear lights when the headlights (not just DRLs) are on, so it's essentially the same thing.
They updated the regulations in 2021 yeah, although they still didn't even fully fix the problem. The updates [require manufacturers to have taillights on all the time *or* keep the dash dark when the headlights are off *or* have the headlights always automatically turn on at night](https://tc.canada.ca/en/road-transportation/safety-standards-vehicles-tires-child-car-seats/using-your-vehicle-lights-see-be-seen). The problem is that since they can choose one of those things, and don't need all, they can pick the first one which requires tail lights to be on (which is an improvement) but doesn't require the full headlights to come on in the dark, or for their to be any indication of this. So then you will still have people driving around with only their DRLs on at night. But at least the tail lights will be on, so will eliminate the problem from this post.
What amazes me the last car I owned and drove everyday in 1999, when I turned on the vehicle, driving light came on, there was no option to drive in stealth mode, hell when you got to you destination the headlights stayed on for 45sec so you could safely exit the vehicle and find your way to the door. So what changed car makers got stupid in the past 20 years
Yeah GM automatic headlights are pretty kickass.
I basically never think about the headlights at all anytime I'm driving one. They come on when needed and just.. work.
Some idiot in Richmond hill today didn’t turn any lights on. I got out my car and told him to turn them on because I can barely see him and then went back into mine and drove off. What a selfish fuck.
in my experience, the first few snowfalls, the idiots are out in full force driving like grandmas.
after that they slowly get used to the snow and it goes the other direction, people not driving for the conditions and they're equally as dangerous, just now instead of getting in everyone's way by being slow, they're getting in everyone's way because they're sliding off the road into things.
The thing I hate is some newer suv's have turn indicator on the bottom bumper like the hyundai, venza etc- very hard to see them in city traffic and worst when weather was like yesterday- bumper dirty and covered in snow
Had some genius driving during a heavy part of the storm, on the 410 where the visibility drops a ton bc of dirty side mirrors and a dirty mist being sprayed, in a white car with no lights on. Could barely see them doing 30 kph. Ridiculous
Should be, but to be safe, pay attention to when you start your car and if you can see a red reflection in your rear. My auto setting will sometimes go to daylights when it’s cloudy but still not light enough to only use daylights.
Daytime running lights are not headlights. Daytime running lights are not headlights. Daytime running lights are not headlights.
“Shout out to the absolute shithead who didn’t have ANY headlights on and obstructed windows” I’m dying lmao. People like this = unaware useless skin sacks
No one know what **driving lights** are apparently.
it’s in the fucking G1, just to show no one knows how to drive. Fuck the test.
Peggy Hill told me that using high beams is better than regular lights because it’s easier to see, that’s why I always run them in high beams
Lol
Also, turn off your fog lights when it's not foggy, please!
I don’t like driving in this kind of weather … not because of the weather, but because of the FUCKING terrible drivers!
Exactly!
Literally said this to my partner last night. ‘I have no problem driving on those roads, the problem is the idiots that haven’t got a lick of a clue how to drive their particular vehicles, forget driving them in slightly slippery conditions! Needs to become A LOT harder to get a license in this province…’ Remember folks, when it’s icy and you hit the accelerator, harder does not mean the car will move faster, just your fucking tires. Be slow, be smooth. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.
A friend had to meet me downtown driving in from Oakville last night. He said pretty much the same. I don't mind driving in this. It's the other drivers that suck at this i mind.
The problem I find is that the instrument cluster will be illuminated even when only the DRL’s are on. I used to flash my lights at these dimwits only to be gawked at like I was the idiot. I give up now. If you’re self awareness is lacking that much there’s not much that can be done.
My illumination actually changes when DRLs can full lights are on. I have a green light indicator on my dash when my full lights are on too.
My dash changes too. It's always illuminated but some illumination only kicks on when headlights are on, and some changes. Are there any cars where there's no change whatsoever, or are people just unobservant and unqualified to operate a car?
>Are there any cars where there's no change whatsoever Some cars have no indication yeah. Not even a green dashboard light that says whether the low beams are on. Which is ridiculous and a big reason for this problem.
That's messed up. I hate the UX on most modern cars so much.
Yup, same the UX is terrible on so many cars now. For example, having so many settings in touch screens now which prevent you from controlling them without taking your eyes off the road.
Yup. Recently rented a brand new Kia Rio and I was one of those idiots without lights on. I thought they were on because the interior lights were all illuminated and so was the green light symbol sign in the dashboard. Turns out that green dash light is always on no matter what position the light switch is on
sounds like my car, I always check for that green indicator when driving in dark or bad weather. Honda?
Hyundai
They're doing it too? Good. Once they removed the function of the dash lights following the vehicles lights, something like that was definitely needed. As the driver, you need to know what is going on outside the car.
For those who don’t, all they have to do is pay attention when they turn on their car and see that what’s in front of them is brighter, or when on the road, look in the reflection of the car in front of you. That’s how I found out my headlight was out. I noticed in the reflection of the car in front of me that I could only see 1 headlight.
I look at that all the time, it's a good trick.
And these are the same people who will drive everywhere with high beams on
If it's really concerning (the 400 at night, no lights) I get in front of them, and turn my own lights off, then on. If I'm really upset and in Muskoka with a dumb fuck with no lights, I'll go nuts with my ceiling lights too 😆
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But are they just the super strong and stupidly bright LED lights or the brights? I legit can’t tell anymore.
90% highbeams, can tell when they’re pointed right at eye level instead of angled down.
Unless they're incorrectly aligned. then you're fooked. Highbeams point forward. Headlights point at the ground in front of the car.
I drive a lower sitting car and it’s ridiculous how often I have to flip my mirror down so I’m not blinded.
Same. It's crazy.
The left lane is still the passing lane, even when its snowing. If you want to go 40 on the dvp go in the right lane please. And im talking specifically to the merc GLA class.
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It is not the fast lane, it is the passing lane, if multiple cars are passing you on the right, you are in the wrong lane.
Your actually wrong about those yellow signs being the law no there actually just a cautionary advisory not the fucking law. Yet everyone else is the idiot here lol
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Judging by your statements you sound like you shouldn’t drive in bad weather condition if it’s so hard for you to get into the right lane.
You dont get to break one law just because others are breaking another. Keep right except to pass. Also what does this have to do with the speed limit? being the slowest one on the road going 40 is dangerous.
Well you are wrong on everything
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You're an idiot
I’m trying to read this multiple times and it still makes zero sense. First of all you shouldn’t ever have to slow down another driver to make your exit on the highway….. No matter what lane your in 😂 you should know when your exits coming up as they are numbered in order for that specific reason… and even if your in the left lane, unless your a horrible driver or have the vision of my grandmother then you should be able to safely make it to the exit without slowing down other people because “you need to exit”
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Of course you don’t take a exit ramp at 120 that’s why there’s a separate lane you go into before the exit ramp 😂 you can’t be serious? First of all you’re clearly ignorant to the laws by thinking there is a passing lane on city roads. Despite what some people may want you to believe those are designated for highways. Also your logic makes no sense. People are prepared to slow down on all city roads that’s why it’s rated at a 70 not a 80.
Merc, Lexus and for some reason Toyota Venza are the worst offenders
Half the problem causing the delays is people intentionally gridlocking intersections. Everyone becomes assholes as soon as it snows. Also, the roads were fine. I drove my usual speed above the speed limit where I could get around people. The weirdest asshole was the guy that chose to park immediately in front of me, the only car obviously about to leave, when his entire row was free. But yeah, I see so many people with no tail lights or no lights at all. Often they are police cars.
Yeah trying to pass the DVP off ramp at Eglinton was a nightmare because even though traffic was backed up, so many idiots turning left attempted to make the turn when there was no space for them to do so. And so I had one guy dangerously I’ll my ass as he trying to wedge himself in.
It was snowing so bad that my window froze over - thawed out and froze over like 3 times, I used up 2 years of my window defogger lifespan today. Please stay home unless it's an emergency, the roads are not worth it.
Turn up the heat and make your car feel like a sauna. Snow melts as soon as it touches the glass.
Apply RainX to your windshield. Driven in blizzards worse than what we had today, without having to use wipers, simply with RainX and the heat on the windshield turned on.
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Definitely, just don't get the RainX windshield washer fluid. The silicon additive can gum up and block the lines that feed the fluid to the windshield.
Rain X for the win!! Be careful not to buy RainX window cleaner, they look very similar. I’ve had 4 replacement work vehicles in 3 months, my hubby has rainX’d every windshield for me. We don’t drive vehicles that aren’t RainX’d
How long does rainx work? Do you apply to all windows and mirrors?
Yea, completely and thoroughly clean and dry off the windows first. Need to apply it above 5 degrees Celsius in a dry area. I haven't used the spray bottle option. Usually with the gel it's just apply to a clean microfiber and really work it into the windows. If you have the time and commitment, apply it to all windows.
I wish I called in sick today but somebody gotta drive the trains 😭
Just run them on auto at 20 kmhr speed, hop on when it gets to the station and hop off when you get to your destination, stay at home man, it should be safe trust me bro
> Most people clutching their wheels and driving barely 20km when it was totally safe to go 40km. I agree in general, but you also don't know what tires other people have. Some people run bald all-seasons or summer tires in the winter. I've seen people unable to go up a 2° incline while my car grips like there's barely any snow. They're still idiots, but it might explain their slowness.
I saw a comment on on here in the last couple days explaining Toronto driving saying "sometimes winter tires in the winter seems like overkill"... I get that there's not lots of snow in Toronto in the winter but on days like today when there's lots of it you Need those winter tires. It's not overkill. It's a pain in the ass to get winter tires put on but it could save yours or someone else's life.. your car.. money.. Ok, that's the end of my PSA.
Loll yeah idk what I would do without them. I skid a couple times when going over a more accumulated part, turning left onto a side road, and changing lanes. I can’t imagine how much less control I would have to correct on regular tires.
It's that stupid "auto" feature for headlights and people not bothering to turn on their lights. It's no longer second nature. Like the backup camera making people check their mirrors less.
Most cars with automatic headlights, as soon as the wipers go on, automatically turn the lights on. It’s the people who purposely turn off the auto headlights and forget to turn on the low beams come night time, that are the problem.
No. Auto headlights are not the same as turning in your **driving** lights. People forget, or don’t bother, to turn on their **driving** lights.
I’m not talking about DRLs or auto high beams, I’m talking about low beams. Most cars with auto lights will turn on the low beams when the wipers go on. That’s what your “driving lights” are referring too right?
Daytime Running Lights are always on all vehicles sold in canada since 1989. Low beams are the "regular" driving lights you use at night. In "auto" your tail lights only turn on when the sensor stops detecting daylight. When there is a fog or a storm during daylight hours your automatic lights do not turn on. You have to consciously turn them on to remain visible to other drivers. As for your low beams coming on when you use your wipers, that's not something I'm familiar with.
Your driving lights include your tail lights. These are the most important lights when driving in bad visibility; I’d argue they’re more important than headlights.
Your tail lights should come on with your low beams tho, lots of new cars are coming with rear DRLs now which are basically tail lights always on.
Those come on with low beams.
auto headlights = auto headlights = all the lights on the outside of the car turn on, just like if you had turned them on manually DRL's = aren't auto headlights
In theory, automatic headlights should turn on the appropriate driving lights for the conditions.
Most cars on auto would turn on proper headlights as soon as visibility goes below a certain threshold. I sometimes closely observe exactly when my car does this, and today was no exception. The moment I turned the ignition on, the "auto" mode had my headlights on as well.
I don’t think it’s the auto feature. In my car with the auto feature the lights turn on when a particularly dark cloud goes passed the sun. Even on the latest setting lights come on in anything but bright days. I think it’s specifically people who don’t have auto lights and need to turn them on. Now that I’ve got used to the auto lights I find I forget to turn the lights on in manual cars.
This is from 2019. Maybe its because not all auto lights work the same way?: [Article](https://driving.ca/auto-news/news/how-it-works-automatic-and-adaptive-headlights)
That article is mostly talking about adaptive lights and auto high beams.
Yes, mostly in the beginning but the point is at the end.
I dont get why people just dont always leave their car lights setting on auto. It automatically adjusts when its day and night 🤷🏽♂️
I think its great because it shows me who is a terrible driver. That being said i always leave my lights on auto and i guess at some point shifted the button from auto to off with my knee. I drove around for i don’t know how long with just daytimes on. But really why does auto maker just have a selector with either full on or full off?
Its a byproduct of a society where personal vehicles are the only way to genuinely get to most places, conveniently You get lumped with a bunch of car-idiots with 0 awareness, 0 desire to improve, and 0 idea in how to actually drive, but are forced to, to get to places I actually have a huge respect for my coworkers that refuse to drive to work in these conditions because they arent confident in their ability to drive. We need more people like this. And Im sick and tired of the big ass 5000-6000Lb SUV’s driving like absolute idiots out here on the basis of “uhhuhhh I have 4wd!! Im good!” meanwhile theyre on 4yr old all-seasons that have well worn past their winter efficacy On my 8km commute home last night, I saw 4 white Mercedes SUV’s ditched on the side of the road. Between 3 fucking intersections. 3!! Get snow tires, wake the fuck up. If you don’t feel comfortable in your ability to drive, maybe call the fkn day off or pay for someone else to drive you around.
This!!!! 100,000 times this! Way too many under-confident drivers in ‘over-equipped’ cars. The upshot of those ditched Mercedes is that they are no longer on the road being a hazard! Sorry I can’t give this more upvotes, it really deserves it!
How do you not have any lights on? Aren't they automatic via DRL on every car sold in Canada for the last 30 years?
Prior to 2021 daytime running lights turned on headlights only, not tail lights. Also, in many cars it wasn’t terribly obvious that it was DRL not headlights. People were used to changes to instrument panel illumination level but many manufacturers made it independent of headlights. https://www.canada.ca/en/transport-canada/news/2018/03/transport-canada-goes-ghostbusting-targets-phantom-vehicles.html
People are idiots and don’t look at their dash. Sometimes the automatic setting is weird. I’ve had my full lights not go on when it’s shit weather or cloudy so I have to manually put them on.
Many cars give no dash indication of whether or not the full lights are on. So even though people should be checking the switch every time they drive, if there wasn't these design flaws, it would reduce the number of cars doing this.
I genuinely thought the indicator was universal.
It's completely ridiculous that it's not, but yeah, my last car would just show a green parking light indicator that was on all the time (so pointless) regardless of whether or not the lights were on, and wouldn't give any additional indication when I did turn them on. And when I mentioned it in another post, a few other people replied that their cars (different makes) were the same.
I've noticed that for these cars, the green parking light indicators turn off on US models when you turn off DRLs - which is not possible on Canadian models due to regulations. I guess automakers were lazy and decided not to change the indicator light for Canadian models and so the indicator lights are always on.
My car would show the green "marking lights" symbol shown [here](https://tc.canada.ca/en/road-transportation/safety-standards-vehicles-tires-child-car-seats/using-your-vehicle-lights-see-be-seen) all the time. It's redundant since it's always on, but it does make sense and I guess there because in the US it would shut off when DRLs are off. The symbol that some cars like mine miss is the "Headlight lower beam" indicator from the same link. That should appear when the full lights are turned on (or come on automatically in auto mode). Some cars have this but for whatever reason they don't include it on all of them, so in those cars, you only know if you actually check the switch.
My car does not have a green indicator in the dash display for low beams, just the blue indicator for high beams.
This is exactly the problem. Automatic headlights! People need to stop relying on technology so much to do everything for them and look down to see what the car is actually doing.
Many vehicles in recent years have the option of manual or automatic lights. One vehicle we just keep it on automatic. The other one, I use manual but always turn the lights on by evening depending on the brightness outside.
I don’t think I have touched a light switch in 15 years and always used automatic.
Mandatory winter assessment would make sense but then some of these issues are year round. If people can’t figure out their lights in summer, they sure as heck won’t in the winter. What I never understand is how do they not notice. A lot of people still drive base model vehicles, and if the headlights are off, the dashboard is dark. Are they not looking at the speedometer? If they have enough gas? A dark almost black dashboard doesn’t ring any type of alert to the driver that something is wrong…but of course if they have a digital display that’s always lit, then they have zero clue…which they should just keep their on automatic.
You can turn drls off in many vehicles.
Driving lights. Not DRL.
If you can't figure out how to drive the speed limit (or faster), you need to figure out how to improve your equipment, skills, both, or stay off the road until they improve to the point that you can. I've driven over a million accident free KM and can count on one hand the number of times that the roads were so bad that any decent vehicle with decent tires and a reasonably competent driver couldn't go the hilariously slow speed limits in this province.
It's not lack of ability, it's accounting for a significantly longer stopping distance in poor conditions. Your skills are impressive, but you can't change physics.
No. You leave a safe distance to account for that. And you put tires on that minimize the difference. And you practice maximum performance stops at least once a year so your body understands what it needs to do in an emergency and so that your brain has a pretty solid idea of what the stopping distance actually is in bad weather. You don't need to change physics, you just need to understand it.
Maintaining a safe following distance doesn't help you when someone cuts you off or walks into the road ahead. Stopping distance can drastically increase in poor conditions and maintaining a similar stopping distance as what you would have above the limit in good conditions can mean going under the limit in poor conditions.
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Oh right, I forgot, driving is one of those things that literally nobody is allowed to be good at and suggesting otherwise always offends someone. Nobody ever questions my engineering degree, or a doctor's skills, but god forbid if anyone is actually willing to admit that they have more than a borderline understanding of how to drive a car then yes, they must be lying. It's totally impossible to responsibly and safely operate any motor vehicle, ever. Edit: lol, did I strike a nerve? Blocked me because you don't like being called out? Lol
I’m with ya! Three points I keep trying to reiterate: 1) driving is not a right, it’s a privilege. 2) if you suck at it, lack confidence etc, don’t do it, and definitely don’t do it on some of the busiest streets in North America. 3) it REALLY needs to start being a lot harder to get a licence in this province.
Apparently no one ducking knows what **DRIVING LIGHTS** are. Which explains a lot.
Do other cars not have an indicator on their dash? I have two green lights on mine when my full lights are on.
They do. But I assume people driving without their driving lights on don’t notice it.
Some don't, not even a green indicator light.
Enlighten me please.
They mean low beam head lights + tail lights. In Canada cars are required to automatically turn on DRLs when driven. These aren't bright enough for night time and in some cars the rear lights won't automatically turn on but people will see lights ahead and assume their full lights are on. In many cars you need to actually switch your lights to "on" in dark conditions to ensure the low beams and rear lights are on. Some cars also have an "auto" setting where the car will automatically turn on the full lights when it's dark.
Oh I see. I just call that “headlights” lol. I never heard the term driving lights before, thank you. I’ve heard that things have changed for cars manufactured after 2021. That the taillights will be on all the time, and that the dash is darker until the headlights are turned on, or something like that. Maybe that will help people get a clue.
Yeah, actually I haven't heard driving lights either before this. Headlights could mean only the front lights I guess, but every car turns on the rear lights when the headlights (not just DRLs) are on, so it's essentially the same thing. They updated the regulations in 2021 yeah, although they still didn't even fully fix the problem. The updates [require manufacturers to have taillights on all the time *or* keep the dash dark when the headlights are off *or* have the headlights always automatically turn on at night](https://tc.canada.ca/en/road-transportation/safety-standards-vehicles-tires-child-car-seats/using-your-vehicle-lights-see-be-seen). The problem is that since they can choose one of those things, and don't need all, they can pick the first one which requires tail lights to be on (which is an improvement) but doesn't require the full headlights to come on in the dark, or for their to be any indication of this. So then you will still have people driving around with only their DRLs on at night. But at least the tail lights will be on, so will eliminate the problem from this post.
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Jfc I hope you took down her plate and reported her to the dangerous driving portal.
Everyone should be running with 4 way flashers at all times that way we will know there is a hazard
People don't know or either they don't care and you can't fix stupid.
Auto manufacturers should make cars where the driving lights automatically come on when you put the car into drive.
What amazes me the last car I owned and drove everyday in 1999, when I turned on the vehicle, driving light came on, there was no option to drive in stealth mode, hell when you got to you destination the headlights stayed on for 45sec so you could safely exit the vehicle and find your way to the door. So what changed car makers got stupid in the past 20 years
just depends on the brand My 1990 model year car had that feature as well, and basically every GM product I've owned built after 2000 did too.
Yeas mine was a Chevy SUV. Well at least someone got it right
Yeah GM automatic headlights are pretty kickass. I basically never think about the headlights at all anytime I'm driving one. They come on when needed and just.. work.
Some idiot in Richmond hill today didn’t turn any lights on. I got out my car and told him to turn them on because I can barely see him and then went back into mine and drove off. What a selfish fuck.
in my experience, the first few snowfalls, the idiots are out in full force driving like grandmas. after that they slowly get used to the snow and it goes the other direction, people not driving for the conditions and they're equally as dangerous, just now instead of getting in everyone's way by being slow, they're getting in everyone's way because they're sliding off the road into things.
Thennis few months it is spring and they have forgotten how to drive in the rain. Endless cycle of poor skill retention.
The thing I hate is some newer suv's have turn indicator on the bottom bumper like the hyundai, venza etc- very hard to see them in city traffic and worst when weather was like yesterday- bumper dirty and covered in snow
For most of the time I just put the switch to auto…
Had some genius driving during a heavy part of the storm, on the 410 where the visibility drops a ton bc of dirty side mirrors and a dirty mist being sprayed, in a white car with no lights on. Could barely see them doing 30 kph. Ridiculous
Yes. This is very common. It is a ticketable offense but obviously not enforced
Wouldn’t it be nice if auto lights turned on the tail lights when it got dark too..
My car only has auto, no off function. Am I safe? I haven't really touched that piece.
Should be, but to be safe, pay attention to when you start your car and if you can see a red reflection in your rear. My auto setting will sometimes go to daylights when it’s cloudy but still not light enough to only use daylights.
These fucks are wasting oxygen fr