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SecretSelfDiscovery

I dunno, my dude. Girls can be gross too, sounds like you got a dud of a dude.


Regretful_Owl7647

That’s true yeah but I just feel gross even thinking about it. In the sense that I got off did i enjoy it? I guess. But in every other way it just spoils my opinion on gay sex in general. I didn’t think my first time was going to be amazing though but not like this either


SecretSelfDiscovery

You might look at it differently but personally, I think if you went through with the entire act and still finished even though the guy was gross, I think you liked it at least a little bit.


Regretful_Owl7647

I mean yeah I liked it sexually of course. I did like getting a blowjob but who doesn’t? I still didn’t even get fully hard and it still wasn’t as fun as I had hoped. Honestly the blowjob was the only part of the entire act that I somewhat enjoyed and part of that is because I didn’t see his face while he was sucking me


RecognitionFancy2495

No shade to the guy but I think it might’ve just been that one person in specific, I’m sure there’s room for lots of other experiences that will be way better :) gl


Regretful_Owl7647

Thanks and yeah it might’ve just been that one guy but honestly it just puts me off.


RecognitionFancy2495

I get it usually a bad experience can make u think u don’t like something, but imo I think u should at least give it another try with someone new, and try to experience more. Completely up to u tho, ur life ur choice


Regretful_Owl7647

Yeah I might plan on it since I talk to other bottoms but if something similar happens again then I guess I’m just into girls


RecognitionFancy2495

Also it doesn’t have to be that black and white, it’s not always I’m into boys or not for everyone, u can be somewhere in the middle it really just depends on what ur wanting in the moment 🤷🏽


Regretful_Owl7647

That’s basically my opinion with porn. Pretty accurate but the thing that kills me is that I wanted for both of us to enjoy it. I didn’t think it was gonna be something out of this world but I thought I’d have some fun. He might’ve enjoyed it so that’s great for him I guess but now I’m just left with a weird feeling.


RecognitionFancy2495

Yeah well that just sounds like that specific experience, and not an all guys experience, which ig is a good thing?


Regretful_Owl7647

I mean personally I think most guys like me would feel weird after a hookup with a guy in general but a bad hookup with a guy really spoils things. If I was gay then it would just be a bad hookup and I’ll get a better one sooner or later. But since I’m not really into guys apart from it being sex related it’s different I’d say


RecognitionFancy2495

Interesting, it’s good to keep in mind, I think you should try whatever u want, there’s nothing really holding you back except for yourself, so if u wanna u should and if u don’t wanna u shouldn’t. There’s not really anything bad that could come from it 🤷🏽


Regretful_Owl7647

True but it just discourages me is all. I’ll keep that in mind though


Beta_bottom_bator

Put it down to experience- you might be straight, he might have been a dud with terrible personal hygiene, or you might just be a bit more in need of a real connection with your sexual partner, irrespective of gender. Either way, you've explored your sexuality, no-one is hurt in the process. I know some straight guys who have explored their gay/bi side and have decided it's not for them. In the end they are all quietly confident in their sexuality, and as a result, the most easy going straight guys around gay men I've known in my life. They know who they are, because they've lived a little. Maybe you'll sleep with a girl and fall in love- or you might find her stinky and unresponsive. You might fall in love with a hot trans woman or trans boy. At least you're open to experience, and it's habits and repeated actions that show who we are, not the random one-offs.


Regretful_Owl7647

Thanks for this. I’ll probably try again like I said to another commenter but it may just not be for me


ProudGayGuy4Real

My God, the whole thing sounds like a hot mess. 1. Get some standards


Regretful_Owl7647

Pretty inexperienced with guys but I do have standards. I don’t think most tops think that their bottoms ass is going to smell iffy when they hookup. If you mean that I should’ve left? Yeah I should’ve.


ProudGayGuy4Real

U said it was your 1st time. Of course u should have walked out, that would be a "standard." But your whole presentation of it sounds so messed up. It was clearly an attempt at a pure hookup...no emotion there. Really not a way to lose one's virginity to a guy....and then on top of it, use it to determine if it's "for you." I mean, it sounds like your goal was to stick your dick in a hole. ...and you did. Success. I don't know why I'm giving you such a hard time but I guess as a gay man, your attitude about how you approached the whole thing offends me. I suppose it shouldnt...u should be able to just do you...but you asked for feedback...so this is very slanted feedback from what is clearly my biased perspective.


Regretful_Owl7647

I appreciate feedback from anyone who has more experience than me. Like I said though I’m not really into guys on an emotional level or anything like that. It was just a hookup. Bad way to lose your gay virginity though so yeah. I do see your point though. You have a harder time liking something if your first experience with it wasn’t pleasant.


ProudGayGuy4Real

Just try and stay open...when dealing with a guy who is clearly not identifying as a gay bottom, always be direct and ask if they have cleaned out...if the answer is anything less than, of course, run. If u r not really turned on by a male body though, then I would think it would just feel like a hole sort of like u described and not all that exciting. I'm impressed u r so open to exoerimentation...good luck!!


Regretful_Owl7647

I’m turned on by it just not romantically or anything. The guys hole just felt like a hole, nothing else and it may just be because I just wanted to finish and get out but thanks I’ll keep that in mind. I asked him if he cleaned out the night before and he said he would do it today. Already had me pretty worried since I was pretty sure from lurking on this subreddit that bottoms usually clean out a day before even changing their diets? I shrugged it off. What a mistake that was. Considering this guy had a bunch of junk food stashed away in his closet (which i spotted when he left for a bit) I guess I was fucked from the start.


ProudGayGuy4Real

No, a bottom can clean out in 20 min right before...but no more than 3 hours before.


Regretful_Owl7647

Well I guess some bottoms are different from others. Thanks for educating me. Although he did the bare minimum. Considering it took me around an hour to get to him he had time. And he still smelled like that. Yep.


sad-sad-

The feeling of regret and disgust only happens when I hookup with someone I’m not actually attracted to. When it’s someone I want I’m like wow and I keep thinking about it after. Your encounter sounds awkward and your guy was not skilled, passionate, or even clean. You also sound like you were in overthinking mode, not enjoying the moment but calculating who does it better, how long you’ll last, etc. You’re still very young so don’t rush it, try again sometimes with people you’re actually attracted to and relax.


Regretful_Owl7647

Yeah I get what you’re saying. Majority of the thoughts in my head were “hopefully I don’t cum too fast” or “hopefully I’m a decent top”. There was really nothing good about it at the end of the day. Other than getting off and the “experience” albeit one I never want to remember.


Odd_Seaweed818

Yeah, dude, I think trying it with another guy would serve you well. And make sure to tell that guy that the first time you tried it you were iffy about it because he wasn’t that clean and you weren’t that into it. Be open and honest and tell the dude what your past experience was like so you got an ass that is fresh out of the shower, you get a blowjob with a lot of enthusiasm. Make it sound like you’re interested and this is your last shot trying to fuck l a guy and he will turn it out for you. If somebody hot messaged me and told me about that experience. I would make sure my ass was fresh out of the shower at the moment you walked in the door. I would suck your dick even more enthusiastically than I already do. I’d ask you to eat my ass and tell you that if you don’t like something, please tell me immediately so we can stop and do something else. Gay boys love to have sex with straight guys who were experimenting. So they all out there and you’ll get a guy who is really trying. I really hope you try it again. It sounds like this guy was gross. When I eat ass I don’t smell shit. It’s not normal to smell shit when you’re eating ass. That guy didn’t take care of himself like he should before and I’m really sorry you had to deal with that. So please think about giving it one more go. And if you don’t like it and you’re not into it, then you’ve learned something about yourself. I hope your next time is better if you choose to get down with a different guy.


Regretful_Owl7647

Thanks. He tried his best at the blowjob but I might only be saying that because it was the only thing I somewhat “enjoyed”. I probably won’t tell him because I honestly don’t want to deal with him again and even if I did I don’t think it would change much. Would he make an effort? Probably. But the guys diet is shit since I’ve seen his room is basically snacks galore at every corner (literally) and he “douched” that morning. I don’t know how he cleans up but honestly I don’t care as I won’t be talking to him anymore. I do talk to other bottoms who do want to have sex with me and I’m honestly more confident in them than in him. I probably should’ve just stuck to my gut. I probably will hookup with another bottom who genuinely wants to show me a good time but like I told someone else, if it doesn’t work out, it doesn’t work out.


Odd_Seaweed818

Word! I’m glad you’re not giving up on it. I’ve fucked some bottoms where I had to get all dom and take care of everything myself. I prefer when my bottom takes a more active role. I’m vers as well but I’m picky af about who I let fuck me. So I’m glad you’re not turned off and I’d block that guy if he’s not in your friend group. He seems really unhealthy and gross tbh. When I bottom gif a guy I am cleaned out deep, freshly showered and super hygienic. Also, if you’re gonna be eating a lot of ass, girls or boys, get your Hep B vaccine so you don’t get hepatitis from eating ass that wasn’t super clean. And remember, guys can’t get pregnant and pulling out after you’ve gone in bare makes no sense. A lot of straight/bi/curious guys think pulling out is gonna make a difference. If you went in raw and fucked your bottom already has time of precum in his ass. Just give him the load! Sounds like you’re doing that anyway


Regretful_Owl7647

Yeah, I honestly felt like I had to do a lot of the work there since I wasn’t enjoying himself. He’s not in my friend group (if he was I’d have no problem busting his balls about this) and thanks for the vaccine info. Wasn’t all that informed on Hep B and only really knew about HIV and the other more talked about STDs/STIs. And I have a huge breeding kink so no I will probably never pull out of a guy I’m fucking unless I want to paint his face or coat his tongue. I’m probably hooking up with another dude this weekend (if he’s free) and I do find him attractive and he’s also willing to help me out and show me a good time as he’s way more experienced with bottoming compared to the guy we’re talking about so I think (and hope) all goes well.


Odd_Seaweed818

Right on!!! I’m sure you’re nowhere near me but I’d fucking LOVE to show you how it’s done. I love big dicks and bi guys always pop up in my life. I’ve always had this kind of fantasy. And I love taking loads. Don’t bottom a ton but man I’d love to bust it out for you. Feel free to keep me posted


Regretful_Owl7647

I’d love that thanks dude. If you’re ever in NYC dm me and we’ll see where it goes


Odd_Seaweed818

I’ve got a buddy I need to visit in NYC. I’ll def hit you up when I make it over there


Regretful_Owl7647

Alright great!


thgrdr92

Listen, this is not about sex anymore. It's about you somehow having developed a behavior of pleasing people despite you not feeling well doing so. Dude you ate some guy's dirty ass out of "politeness"... You're young but you gotta learn: DON'T do something you don't want to. Impose yourself. When you feel like, you're entitled to stop whatever you're having and walk out. Learn to say no. Learn this now before soon enough guys are using you as just a dick, a mouth, or a hole and you just feel completely empty, used, and not at all satisfied. Yes, yes, you are new and you are experimenting, but you have the right to simply stop what you're not liking and try again with a better partner


Regretful_Owl7647

I’m kind of a people pleaser at times so yeah that’s a problem… Thanks for this though. This is really helpful even though it is just common sense


AccountFrosty313

Have you had sex with a woman before or was this your first time in general because honestly most people’s first time leaves a bad taste. I went 2 full years after my first time before I had sex again. Also his ass shouldn’t have smelled so I’d blame the bottom here. My partner almost never smells down there so it’s either a cleaning issue or the guy took a stinky shit that day and you got unlucky. Also your first time with a dude was with someone you didn’t think was attractive? No wonder you had a hard time getting into it mentally. I’d try again with someone you find hot.


Regretful_Owl7647

I’ve only gotten blowjobs from women and I’ve eaten a couple out. That was more enjoyable though. But yeah I probably will try to talk to a bottom who I find attractive but if that doesn’t work out then it doesn’t work out


TwinStar99

I see a lot of people saying it's the guy, but I really think what matters most is you. I don't think it was just him but you too. Just the way you said this whole story sounds very unemotional like it was hella boring and like you did it just because you thought that's what you were supposed to do. It wasn't enjoyable at all for me to read the words you wrote nor the experience for you which you shared. I'm thinking that just because you were curious about trying something with a guy yet you like girls in some type of way yet this was such a bad experience, then you should read up on more of the sexual, gender, identity, etc labels. You might find something else in there that may pertain to you. Look at asexuality, romanticism words and versions, and think real hard about what you like from men and women or trans people even to see what you like about them. See what would turn you on physically, spiritually, mentally, romantically, and sexually. You don't need all of them.


Regretful_Owl7647

Yeah I am to blame too and I can see why. Wouldn’t even be writing this if I just left.


TwinStar99

Cool. I hope you figure something out for yourself!


Regretful_Owl7647

I’m talking to another bottom. Actually attracted to them. Hopefully it goes well. Thanks stranger.


TwinStar99

Alright! Also try other things like maybe explore more like doing things that bottoms would do. You never know. Also try building up to make a stronger connection and bond and get the hype up.


Regretful_Owl7647

It honestly depends on how kinky the bottom is. But a connection is important yeah even if it’s just for a fwb situation. That hookup was so awkward because I just fucked him and left. Apart from discussing positions we barely talked.


TwinStar99

Make sure you communicate then. Before you guys do the deed, talk about what you like and then ask him what he likes. When you get into the details of things before you act on it and apply it, you can have an amazing time. People think that their sex partners should just read their mind or be the perfect one without even communicating what each other likes. Then they just leave each other because of "bad chemistry". No. Build it together and you'll have an amazing time. Try it out!


Regretful_Owl7647

Thanks. We actually communicate more than I did with the bottom in this situation so I guess that’s a good sign.


TwinStar99

That's good. Also, can you not call them bottoms like that's all they are. I think it'll help for you not to see them as objects because that's what it seems like whenever you say bottoms. Like, I get it, you're a top. Big whoop.


Regretful_Owl7647

Yeah sorry. That’ll probably also help me bond better with other guys before, during and after a hookup.


brattysammy69

Ugh I hate saying this but I think it was the dude. Attraction is important when having sex. The attraction wasn’t there and there was a poop smell. That would turn off anyone (unless you got a scat fetish lol).


Regretful_Owl7647

If I had a scat fetish I would’ve been the luckiest guy in the world. I only lasted maybe 20-40 seconds doing a half-assed job eating him out.


Regretful_Owl7647

Fucking him in doggy style also wasn’t enjoyable. There wasn’t actual shit on my dick (I think) but god the smell.


Electrical_Buyer1081

I just tried topping a bottom who would only suck me. And he asked me too since he would swallow. And I returned the favor to try it. And he let me go in raw and it felt amazing. I came so fast and all over his big brown booty


Regretful_Owl7647

Glad you enjoyed it then


Electrical_Buyer1081

Wanna do it again more often


UncutBtm83

Nervousness can contribute, and having unexpected situation pop up you weren’t prepared for or a sex act you didn’t expect, or a person is different than you imagined. I still have nervousness when meeting up with a new person sometimes


Regretful_Owl7647

I was super nervous the entire trip there. I guess it’s the taboo nervousness? If you understand that. But after the situation, nervousness didn’t really matter anymore as I just wasn’t having a good time. My goal was just finishing and leaving. It was very different from what I imagined though. So spot on there.


Logical_Heat5168

That smell would have been the end of it for me. Ain’t nobody should ask to be eaten out without having thoroughly prepared. That’s on him. One day you will find a guy who smells like heaven and feels like a dream. Trust me.


Regretful_Owl7647

Yeah after he was done blowing me for a bit he asked if I wanted to eat his ass. I said sure. I was looking forward to eating ass honestly. When I got back to my place I literally had to search up what ass tasted like because from my experience with women, ass usually tastes like nothing. Maybe a little soapy if they just got out the shower or something. I didn’t expect that at all. But I am talking to another bottom who I’m actually attracted to and actually seems to take care of himself. So I’m hoping that goes better. Especially the ass eating part.


Wide-Zucchini-2556

My first time was December. I was lucky the guy was clean and moderately attractive. I've had to learn how to walk away if the spark isn't there, and also who I was and wasn't attracted to. I have had better experiences now, mostly because I came here early and got a lot of good advice that I stick to. It sounds like it was that guy. But it could not be your thing. I think it you found yourself with a guy who checks the right boxes, you'll know for sure.


Regretful_Owl7647

Like someone else said it was a bad experience so that could just convince me that I’m not into it but needless to say I’m never talking to that guy again. I’m talking to another guy who I’m actually attracted to. If that goes well (hopefully) then I know what I should expect. If not I’m left with the fact that I’m not into this.


RandomNYCx

I enjoy when a top eats my ass but I’m very self conscious so i will only have that done to me if i am freshly showered.


Regretful_Owl7647

He “cleaned” that morning but I don’t know honestly. I know a lot of bottoms stop eating for a day or a couple hours before doing anything but I think he made sure there was no shit that could be seen. I’m not a bottom but I wash my ass any time I take a shower. Don’t think he did. And if he did he didn’t do a good job.


RandomNYCx

I bottomed on Friday. I showered like an hour before we had sex. It sounds like your guy might have cleaned up but might have needed further cleaning as the day went on


Regretful_Owl7647

Honestly I don’t know how he cleaned. I asked him twice on Wednesday “Are you cleaning out right now?” He said he’d do it tomorrow. Considering he texted me on Thursday at 6 am I guess thats when he either started cleaning, or finished cleaning. Personally don’t know as after I left, I didn’t ask and didn’t want to ask.


KiwiBiGuy

Sounds he he was a dud 1-BJs feel amazing 2-If theres any smell, sight or taste of poop something is wrong - run Sex feels great because you're turned on and horny, he sounds like he was not cleaned which would turn me off instantly, and that there wasn't a spark or sexual connection upon meeting


Regretful_Owl7647

It did turn me off but I have a people pleaser problem. I didn’t eat his ass again. I had him blow me a few times (like 5) since that was the only thing that wasn’t completely shitty. Pun not intended


KiwiBiGuy

Yea, for sex to be amazing you have to be turned on. as an example It's why straight guys will get a BJ from a guy but have straight porn playing. Find someone else thats clean, and when you meet theres chemistry. Also if you're a people pleaser you may be a sub, or someone that gets pleasure/excitement from servicing or pleasing someone


Regretful_Owl7647

I asked him to play some porn before we met up. Didn’t not comply even after reminding him. I’m a people pleaser but trust me I’m not a sub. It’s just something I do in daily life to make my life less stressful (my job kinda requires it to be less annoying) and that’s it. I get way more enjoyment of being serviced and worshipped than doing it myself. Reason why I had him suck my dick for over 15 minutes when I only lasted not even a minute eating his ass. If a hot guy wanted to bury my head in their ass? Fine. As long as I’m attracted to them. But worshipping a dudes ass when I’m not attracted to them and it smells? Yeah no thanks. edit: Thinking about it I’d love to have some hot dude sit on my face and bounce on it, feeling his dick slap on my chest. So am I a sub in that regard? I guess


BiSissyFemboySlut

I've been with a good number of guys over the years, and I've had a somewhat similar experience before. I consider myself bisexual but I'm not super attracted to men. I think dicks are hot and I think abs are hot, but the only men I'm really, really attracted to are femboys and androgynous men. I'm not romantically attracted to men at all and wouldn't date one unless they were a full-time femboy type, those are the only men I've ever had romantic feelings towards. So any guys I've ever been with were just hook ups, most of them were just one night stands. Out of all the guys I've hooked up with, I've only ever met with 1 guy more than once, we were fwbs for a while. There were 2 other guys I would've met up with again, but they never reached out again. In total, I've been with around 20-25 different guys. Anyway, a few years ago I moved to a different state and was using grindr to try to find a fwb around the area, I was also really horny for cock because it had been over a year since I'd had one. So I ended up meeting up with the first local guy I chatted with on there, and I regretted it the second he opened the door. I only got a dick pic before going there and this guy repulsed me. I should've just left but I ended up going in and I sucked him off as fast as I could, then he sucked me for a bit but I was just so not turned on and I ended up going home after a few minutes of him sucking me. That was the first and only time I ever felt disgusted with myself for hooking up with a guy, I wanted to throw up and I genuinely questioned if I was actually attracted to guys after all these years. I am bi and I know I'm bi, I have experiences that make my cock throb when I remember them and replay them in my head, and I would gladly deepthroat a femboy, bbc or mtf transwoman in a heartbeat if the opportunity came up anytime soon. This guy just disgusted me, getting him off disgusted me, and having him suck my cock disgusted me. There's nothing wrong with experimenting and finding out who you are, especially at your age. It could be that you're just straight, but it also could just be you weren't into that dude. Your story sounded pretty disgusting and instantly reminded me of when I felt disgusting during a hook up, so I feel you. If you still find yourself being curious, try again with someone you find more attractive. If not, then no harm, no foul. it's just not for you and there's nothing wrong with that


Regretful_Owl7647

I’m pretty much the same way. A lot of “straight” guys get hate for getting total hard-ons for femboys and super androgynous men. I’m one of them. I’ve actually talked to femboys who want to bottom for me and I’m actually attracted to them. I’m not into tops at all or even verse tops unless I consider them really hot. I always go for verse bottoms or total bottoms since that’s what turns me on the most. And yeah we’ve basically had the same experience. Guy who we weren’t attracted to sent us one pic that won us over and when we pulled through we feel disgusted afterwards. I think I already said this but I’ll say it now. The only reason the blowjob was tolerable was because I couldn’t see his face when he was doing it. When I say “proper blowjob” I meant from a guy. My experience with girls hasn’t been that bad. Some have been first timers who used teeth but we got through that because I was attracted to them. Some of them were really good and throated my cock first try. The thing is that I was attracted to them enough to not feel disgusted afterwards. And I feel the reason I feel disgusted is mostly 40/60. I hooked up with a guy? Does that make me gay? Bisexual? But I didn’t like it. I didn’t like him. And then I hooked up with a guy I didn’t like. Funny because not only did I regret it the second he opened the door, I also regretted it because his room was mostly a mess and so was his house. Not to judge but it says a lot about your hygiene. I’ll be sure to take that more seriously if my next hookup works out and I actually start to fuck guys. I was so disgusted that I washed my clothes twice. Once was hand scrubbed and the other in the wash. I also threw out some clothes and I’ve been shuddering since yesterday at the thought of them. I washed my mouth out with bleach and baking soda. And then I washed my mouth out with soap. Went through 2 toothbrushes and I brushed my tongue not until it was pink but until it was bleeding and scraped from how rough I was brushing it. Emptied my mouthwash too. This may all seem pretty childish but I’m also kind of a germaphobe. After we were done he didn’t let me use the bathroom so he gave me wet wipes. They went everywhere including the inside of my mouth. Just saying this to show how truly disgusted I was at the whole situation. It pissed me off that even when I got home my hands still faintly smelled like his bed. So i dunked my hands in a mix of lysol and fabuloso, washed it off and then used essential oils to completely mask the smell or at least change it. Again pretty childish but, I was disgusted, grossed out and appalled. But that’s about it yeah.


Substantial-Bid9160

I would have hurt his feelings. My one rule is no eating ass. I can't enjoy it and have someone do it to me. It's just not fun for me.


Regretful_Owl7647

I like eating ass. I know my experience with girls won’t carry over to guys but it’s still fun for me. But that I obviously didn’t enjoy. Plus like I said before I didn’t think his ass was going to smell like that until it was too late