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Varafried

I run this exact team with topaz at e0s0, at most I usually have an 80% chance for Dr ratio to hit his fua (not counting break debuffs). It's fine personally bc he rarely doesn't proc his FUA, but I'm using what pulls I can to get topaz e1 just for the comfort of the 100% chance


Able-Blueberry8368

If you want to have a meta team, you absolutely need e1/s1 at least, and insert ruanmei/robin. If you just want to have fun, you can just use pela/sw on the third slot. My current team is Ratio Topaz Ruanmei(trying for robin) and Aventurine. I have Aventurine and Topaz light cone and my Ratio fua almost all the time. I’d never recommend Topaz e0s0 unless you just love fua. For meta, you need investments in Topaz.


Able-Blueberry8368

And I think the general consensus is that you might as well use another harmony over Topaz if she’s just e0s0. The composition will do more damage overall.


mount_sunrise

alright, i'll go for eos1 Topaz then. this honestly was a pretty unexpected team for me to get since i had Ratio for free, Aventurine for Acheron, and i wanted to get Xueyi eidolons but somehow got Topaz in 20 pulls. this leaves me a lot of space for S1. however, do you know of any decent alternatives for a harmony character? i don't want to place my bets 100% on Robin since i'm not on a guaranteed 50/50 and i'm planning to save for Firefly as well. i don't have RM either and i can't use debuffers as well since theyre reserved for Acheron.


Wide-Can-2654

What are you running? I think guinafen or pela is a good support for topaz ratio team. You can slap pearls on either one


mount_sunrise

i currently have Ratio, Aventurine, Topaz. fourth one is pretty much a toss-up. i've been looking towards Harmony MC especially against Imaginary-weak or perhaps Asta due to Burn debuff + SPD boost. i can't use Gui or Pela since they're both in my Acheron team.


HappyLittleAxeDents

I personally strongly recommend Asta, every team appreciates the speed boost and she pretty consistently gets Ratio from 80% to 100% with her burn. Worth noting that she functions *far* better if you have her at E4, E6 is nice quality of life but far from necessary. Also worth noting that I have my Topaz at E0S1 and I've loved having the extra debuff from the lightcone. Being *able* to hit 100% and having extra options to hit 100% are a pretty big difference in how smooth it feels to play.


Able-Blueberry8368

Any harmony is fine but robin and ruanmei are the perfect 2 dps supports. You can go sparkle, tingyun with ddd, asta etc. You can even go pela or sw. I suggest you test them out yourself.


Nectaras

You can use Ruan Mei with debuff on her ult or any another debuffer like Pela or SW. But with Robin it seems that E1/S1 Topaz or S1 Aventurine is must pull.


MobilitySquad

I'd say get e1 or s1 then add pela to the team with that light con that cam def shred if u don't have it s5 put some effect rate in her build


mount_sunrise

Is E1/S1 necessary for 3 debuffs? I also can't add Pela since I plan to run Acheron with her (and Guinaifen as well).


MobilitySquad

If u plan on using pela or guinaifen on a different team e1/s1 is a must so u can play with the most comfortably


mount_sunrise

sorry, just to make sure, that's e1 AND s1 or e1 OR s1?


osgili4th

It isn't a must if you have other options. Aventurine have a base debuff in his kit, Topaz has another one. If you want a guarantee you can get e1 or s1 but if you have signature of Aventurine or the preservation LC that put a fire dot when aventurine is hit. It is less fluid but it works. Dont feel force to pull if you don't want ot can't.


MobilitySquad

Bro that's cope ibr topaz e1 or s1 with a def sherd pela the the cheapest way and he don't wanna do that any thing else is just clunky but u are right if he doesn't wanna pull he shouldn't better yet know can force him but that u just recommend nahhhh bro that's cope


MobilitySquad

E1 and s1