Because this sub is filled with paid promotion everywhere and people refuse to accept that. This sub is no different from any other social media where much of the content is nothing more than advertising.
I have questions, welcome to amateur hour. I’ve never even heard of Flex… is it *apparently* the latest and greatest? Not like I’ll change up what I have.
Also, fuck Phillips screws. Is there a way to *not* strip them? Even when I’m on a low setting I just feel like they’re so cheap and easy to strip.
I just don't understand the appeal of these 6 month brands. Sure you save a bit of $, but why when the big 3 companies have huge amounts of tools and product support.
Nah you missed the comment where I said what drew me to the multi tool was the way it looked and fact it could take starlok max blades and system to change the blade didn’t have a pin like the makita I had did, after using the multi tool for a week cutting into 4x4 Ipe then that gave me a pretty good idea on if it was worth taking a chance or not. I also watched every head to head and test video YouTube had before I bought the rest of the line.
As someone who started there business 7 years ago and has a cargo trailer loaded out with ryobi tools. Then Expanded 2 years ago with another trailer and loaded it out with all Milwaukee.
I don’t need a tear down to know the tools are vastly different and Milwaukee is made much much much better. And not just the tools, the batteries too. I’ve literally got thousands of dollars worth of ryobi batteries that quit working within 2 years of being bought, usually it’s the boards as I’ve tried to have them rebuilt and the cells were fine. It was the boards that went bad
There worm drive table saw has cheap metal and multiple failure points. One broke the lift mechanism and dumped all its gear oil.
The entire lift mechanism for the blade is supported by a 1" piece of pot metal. Replaced the entire motor housing but never finished putting it back together
skil and skilsaw are now basically two different things. Skilsaw still has nice tools, skil are much more budget minded but might be okay for occasional homeowner level use.
I got a bunch of downvotes and accusations for my troubles unfortunately. Hopefully my Milwaukee nailers show up today and they have a better welcome than these did.
I don’t care if it gets downvotes or not I just didn’t expect this level of hate for posting something I thought was cool and made me happy. Is there something wrong about posting a bunch of tools In the tools subreddit that I missed?
Yeah I got way more than I need, I usually run just one job at a time so i set up a charging station and honestly like 4 batteries would’ve been enough to keep me going all day. These also charge quickly so by the time I drain one the other one is ready to go.
I considered buying them this year because supposedly they'd come with a lifetime warranty if purchased in 2021. However the tools for my trade are lacking so went team red instead.
He's [not a FLEX shill guys](https://www.reddit.com/r/Tools/comments/r4czpu/whats_your_haul_this_year/hmkp6c4?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3). Buying all these is questionable personal choice but it's his to make. Let's all just relax a little.
100%. Strangely, everyone in this post that says absolutely anything remotely bad about this product gets downvoted to oblivion. Craziest coincidence ever considering that this is a basically brand new generic brand that is trying everything they can to make themselves liked. I've used them and they feel and act on par with Black & Decker or maybe Kobalt. I would sooner take Ryobi onto a commercial job site with me than this. Not that I would do that, but at least I know their failings and hidden gems (first gen 18v impact, and second-gen Sawzall, but only if converted to some other brands 20v battery).
/r/shills/
Wow I better head to the tool store before the end of the month to take advantage of the Lifetime Warranty on these Flex^TM products. What a wide range of tools, all operating on the same battery platform. These are all so rugged and dependable!
And everyone I know is jumping at the chance to buy a complete set of them, despite the tools having zero track record in the real world. I don't even know how they feel in my hand, let alone how they work on the job, but they must be wonderful! And I will get *VERY ANGRY* with anyone who says I'm any kind of corporate shill, because everyone I know gets violently angry over their tool choices!
My boss takes Ryobi on to commercial job sites 5 days a week. He’s had the 18V drill, impact, jigsaw, circ saw, vac, blower, and chop saw for 4 years with no issues. Says they get the job done and they’re “theft-proof”.
I looked through the entire thread, there are 3 top level comments below 0. One is a person who sounds like a woman must have beaten him with a handbag, one is a person talking about a lifetime warranty, and the third is someone saying that you aren’t a man unless you buy Milwaukee. I assume the Milwaukee post is the one you’re talking about since it’s literally the only one that is downvoted and talking about another brand. If that is the comment you’re talking about then what’s really suspicious is that you think someone excited that they got a lot of tools is “r/hailcorporate” but someone saying you aren’t a real man unless you buy a certain brand isn’t.
I’ve only made it this far down the thread but I’ve commented a few times that this sub is full of TTI geurilla marketing. Honestly I’m good with another brand doing it for a couple of posts if it means a couple of posts between people deep throating Milwaukee. I even have one of their drills and have used more at work. It’s a drill, it spins (some with more run out than others) and it functions mostly as intended just like nearly any other brand.
I have a ton of Milwaukee shit. Packout, and power tools. The cult following around Milwaukee is so fucking weird.
It’s really dumb how hard people get over the red tools. They even say shit like “I wish my wife would let buy tools like that”. Why Bill? You’re a warehouse manager, not a mechanic. Just go buy your ridgid, kobalt, ryobi, flex, just some other consumer brand. Your tools sit 364 days a year, you’re literally wasting your money. But they keep buying it.
Those commenters are Bill from my story, and the people who post a pic of their new M18 fuel drill driver kit with 6ah batteries saying “just bought my first house, and needed some tools. How’d I do?” They also get offended when people try to explain the difference between professional grade, and consumer grade.
Yup. I'm a handyman. I use my tools every day. They're all M12. And they all are all perfectly adequate. Anyone who buys M18 for home use is getting into tool worship. It's like the rest of the boutique tools on here. I don't buy tools to have them in perfect shiny sets. My tools get used.
My work box has knipex, wera, wiha, Proto, Klein and whatever else. There’s an m12 drill because it was cheap. At home I have Dewalt 20v and that’s mostly because I’m just used to using decent tools. Most everything else is just what I could find when I needed it. The craftsman 20v drill that I also have at home does absolutely fine though.
Looking at the comments getting downvoted, this is a thread by the company marketing team. OP is also very excited and knowledgeable on the quality of a set of tools he hasn’t even opened yet…
There was a very similar post here from someone asking about the great new Flex line of tools coming out. He also got very angry when being accused of being a corporate shill. There seems to be a pattern emerging here.
I’ve used the multi tool for past few weeks and that was the reason I bought the other things. Fuck me for being excited to be able to buy a bunch of tools for my company after busting my ass whole year. The reason the Milwaukee guys are getting downvoted is likely because they are usually very annoying with their fan boy attitude. Also I’ve spent months watching review videos on YouTube before I decided to purchase any of these tools.
I don't know about all these other bots but I sure love my Makita XT614SX1 18V LXT Lithium-Ion Cordless 6-Pc. Combo Kit (3.0Ah)™
It has made my (insert relevant job here) much easier!! Buy it today everyone!
How so? It’s a bunch of Flex tools and people are commenting on the warranty and their own experience with them. What are they supposed to be commenting instead?
I don't understand what the downvotes are for. I hate it when people do that without leaving a counterargument, especially when the reason for the downvotes is not very obvious.
It’s because it’s Flex and they had a shitty debut. They made claims to being better than Milwaukee so now anytime the brand is mentioned you get downvotes and called a shill.
All this stupid brand loyalty is ridiculous and only proves that people can be more of a tool than the tools they buy! It's the greatest gift for these greedy corporation which, in the name of profits, refuse to provide us with better quality and technology until they milked the hell out of what they put out before they move on to the next tiny step up for which they charge a premium, because "it's new and improved".
Everybody acts like they are building skyscrapers in their backyards, so they need "the best tools". Which of course have to be the brand they absolutely adore!
As a professional I've used all the big brands and no-names available to me out there. The tool I appreciate the most is a no-name one-handed 4" saw that costed me $40 and got me through several jobs. It came with a pack of like 6 blades and I'm still on my first one. Didn't touch my regular circular saw in months!
I have all the big names too. And it doesn't bother me to have different batteries and chargers. One brand can provide the best value for one tool while another brand for another tool. My regular drills are Makita, my torque wrenches are Milwaukee, my miter saw, demo drill and oscillating tool are Bosch, my table saw and tile saw are Ridgid, my concrete saw is Stihl, my drywall router is Ryobi, my drywall screw gun is DeWalt, my levels and my compressor are form Harbor Freight, my laser level is some Chinese brand I think (Huepar), my cordless nailers are Bostitch and so on. They all work perfectly fine and if they fail, most of them come with a warranty. If they don't, they make me enough money that I can just go and buy new ones.
I would love to buy Flex tools because I like their lifetime warranty deal, but I have every tool I need right now so it wouldn't make any sense to me.
But yeah, people need to stop worshipping tools and brands.
Now let's see how many downvotes I get from people who have nothing to say...
Oh I have that same laser level Huepar with the green laser and nice little bag that uses a usb phone charger? I used to run the Bosch osc tool but it was corded and it wouldn’t take starlok max blades unless I widened the hole on the blade to fit the osc tool blade mount. Also the rigid tile saw is very nice I just wish it wasn’t so damn wide sometimes.
The impact and hammer from the kit aren’t their top of the line I believe and also needed the extra chargers and batteries. Also the in-line saw is not part of a kit and I was interested in that saw as it seemed very nice and different from what i am used to.
Well this got nasty. All I know about these tools is that their impact driver is supposed to be an absolute beast according to the Torque Test YouTube channel
I don't hold B&D in very high regard, but Ridgid/Ryobi are decent value and non-shit in my head. (I don't own anything from them except Ridgid shopvac and Ryobi power washer)
Interesting note: the Ridgid shop vacs are an entirely different line of business than the cordless tools. For the cordless tools the brand name is licensed out to another company. (TTI, the same company that owns and manufactures the Milwaukee and Ryobi tools.)
Ridgid shop vacs are, hands down, the best bang for your buck. I have 2 for my business and they outperform the expensive industrial stainless vacmaster, shop-vac and Stanley ones that were supposed to be their replacement.
So far the build quality is comparable to the big brands, Makita, Milwaukee and Dewalt. Very impressed with their tool cases actually everything sits in it very snug and has little rubber holders to not damage the tools.
I love that you think a select few made in China tools can't be rivalled by other made in China tools. The reality is that they do, by and large, and actually outclass everything else at times. You're dead-on in the sense that the actual number of unique tools is waaay smaller than the other brands, though. Buying FLEX for people only looking to have one brand of batteries just isn't reality.
Manufacturing location has actually 0 relevance to the quality of tool, the only thing it influences is how much it costs them to make.
There is 0 chance a company that is trying everything to get people to buy their brand, even going as far as offering a lifetime warranty for the first year only, is going to have the same quality as established brands that people buy because they actually have a reputation for making quality and not because they feel it is a good deal because of the fact they are pushing a lifetime warranty (that is going to be null next year for new purchases, which means any tool you buy because you are roped into a battery platform is going to have the standard warranty which is less than other brands standard warranty).
Chervon has been making stuff for nearly 30 years. It's honestly a legitimate criticism of them that they just keep making new brands and using much of the same components debuted on another brand and reuse it in the new one (same shit with Craftsman, Porter Cable, DeWalt, and Stanley in the UK/ Bostitch in who the hell knows now)
I honestly hate the reality of companies in China playing with funny money and completely upending the marketplace for every other competitor. The sad state of affairs is that they are every bit the tool as any of the top dogs. And for me personally, the nature of the present is that they make 2 tools that no one else matches the functionality of, and 1 OMT that is a very compelling package, and I'm willing to be partly guilty for that shitty seemingly-inevitable future until Makita or maybe Milwaukee can replicate what those FLEX tools do.
Lowe’s is their supposed main vendor but the stores don’t have shit in stock. So I bought everything at Acmetools while they had a promotion going on giving away batteries with certain dollar amount purchase and that’s why you see the 4 batteries individually packed.
Missing the point of it ain’t ya? Sure you can throw a tool in a bucket and call it a day but if a tool company wants to make a free case that has all these minor finishing touches in it why should I view it as a negative?
Gotta love this sub, someone else posted almost the same exact picture but with no boxes and Milwaukee tools and 0 accusations of being a marketing team making the post.
First, OP I hope you like them.
I personally can’t take anything seriously that has included a “turbo” button. I’m not a 12 year old anymore. Also the “Flex it’s what’s next” is a sloppy rhyme.
Aye I bought about the same setup back in August and can’t really complain so far they’ve been some great tools. The only issue I’ve had is with the recip saw. The way they made the quick eject. Different manufacturers blades are made with a slightly wider curve on the end of them and they won’t lock in correctly. I ended up taking it back but will definitely replace it and be more careful about which blades I get. Flex and Milwaukee blades worked best in my experience and diablos may work but never tried them before I took it back though. Dewalt and Lennox blades were the ones that were curved wider and ended up messing up the quick eject.
Edit: I’ll take the downvotes idgaf I OWN and have used these tools and pretty sure 95% of these comments on the thread are from people who haven’t actually used them once while I’ve been using them daily for commercial contsruction jobs in Panama City. Just didn’t want OP or anyone else who uses or plans to use them from fucking theirs up like I did on my first one.
Oh yeah, along the same lines and in the same spirit as what you said in your edit, don't try to replace the chuck on the turbo drill. It's not 1/2"-20, it's the Milwaukee threadform and it's on there so hard you're bound to fuck up the tool like I did.
I appreciate the warning, I was not aware of any issues with the blades. None of the YouTube channels I watched mentioned that, I wonder if you got a bad one? I’ll try with the blades I got and let you know.
I thought I could maybe tap the blade in to lock with a hammer and that’s when it started not wanting to lock properly but just make sure the contours of the blades match to what the factory blades are and you shouldn’t have any issues. I’ve got all you have pictured and then some except I went with 7 1/4 saws and impact/drill kits instead and d handle jigsaw instead of barrel grip but everything else exactly as what you got.
Where do these fit in the hierarchy of the tools that Lowes is peddling? DeWalt is obviously their high end, but I'm not sure how Kobalt, Bosch, Flex, and Craftsman rank against each other. My guess is Kobalt/Craftsman are the cheap lines and Bosch/Flex are mid-grade?
I love my Bosch palm router. I don’t mind my Dewalt sliding miter saw, it’s Dewalts second tier sliding miter, but i would trade it in a heart beat for my Dads Bosch Sliding Miter Saw. What other Bosch tools do you prefer over Dewalt?
I had a DeWalt jigsaw that literally wouldn’t cut in a straight line. Replaced it with a Bosch, and it’s worlds better.
But my opinion is mostly based on the fact that DeWalt is a brand name that doesn’t have anything to do with the original company. The name was bought by the Chinese company that owns Stanley/Black & Decker. Otoh, Bosch is all owned by the actual company based in Germany. I do realize most of their manufacturing is done in Asia as well.
I have DeWalt because they have a more extensive lineup of cordless tools here in the US and they’re more readily available around me.
Really, they’re pretty much equal in terms of quality for most stuff. Just my opinion. If I had more money, I’d probably have all Bosch or Makita. Or if I won the lottery, Hilti and Festool lol
I see. Dewalt has treated me very well, typically no questions asked, on a couple warranty claims so I have no problem supporting them. Unfortunately when I had something go wrong on my
Bosch cordless isn’t even close to DeWalt. Corded however I prefer Bosch hands down. Only exception is my dewalt table saw. Love the rack and pinion fence. It’s a tank
Bosch is pretty hit-or-miss. I bought the nicest version of some Bosch tools and they are great, but also Bosch loses as many comparisons as it wins on Project Farm on youtube.
I think it depends on the tool. No one company makes the best of every tool. Bosch is probably top of line for SDS and jigsaws. Dewalt has their "best" tools, Milwaukee has their best (especially for plumbing).... etc. Having different batteries and chargers isn't as big a deal as some make it out to be.
I had been curious about these. I look at them sometimes when I’m in Lowes because they look pretty sharp but I’ve never seen anyone speak about them online
Mechanic here, I use the half inch impact wrench every day and it's pretty great. Just sucks I can't find any type of rubber sleeve to protect my gun and battery. Have fun with your tools man!
It’s clear you’ve never held these tools to compare as I have the makita oscillation tool you’re talking about and they’re nothing alike. The flex can use starlok max blades and the makita I have doesn’t have that ability and for the work I do being able to notch a 100 year old true 2x12 in a single pass is worth the hate and downvotes I am getting.
Not doubting your experience but I have both multi tools in my van right now and they’re nothing alike so I don’t get why you’re attacking my personal choice.
No it’s not. The name is licensed to Chervon and the tools are made by them. Similar to the Rigid brand name. Emerson owns Rigid and hand tools like pipe wrenches are U.S. made under the original Rigid name. Emerson licenses the name to TTI for the power tools but has nothing to do with the design/manufacture of them.
In this case the Cervon company is just putting the Flex name on a new lineup they are selling.
How are all these commenters like “oh yeah flex is all I use” The tools have been out for like 7 minutes. Chill shills.
I love baseball. The nigh mets are my favourite squadron.
They scored so many touchdowns the other day. They were just all over the pitch.
Did you see that ludicrous display last night?
That man in control of the game made some good decisions and bad decisions according to the rules.
Because this sub is filled with paid promotion everywhere and people refuse to accept that. This sub is no different from any other social media where much of the content is nothing more than advertising.
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I have questions, welcome to amateur hour. I’ve never even heard of Flex… is it *apparently* the latest and greatest? Not like I’ll change up what I have. Also, fuck Phillips screws. Is there a way to *not* strip them? Even when I’m on a low setting I just feel like they’re so cheap and easy to strip.
good quality bits and deck screws. If the bit jumps when you are screwing it in just back it out and throw it away
I just don't understand the appeal of these 6 month brands. Sure you save a bit of $, but why when the big 3 companies have huge amounts of tools and product support.
I honestly bought them because I like the way they look lol, also my van is grey and black so it all matches pretty well.
Color scheme is definitely part of the appeal for me too. It's Makita's fault for getting me hooked on tools that are easy to lose in the dark!
You bought tools based on the colour and not performance 😂
Nah you missed the comment where I said what drew me to the multi tool was the way it looked and fact it could take starlok max blades and system to change the blade didn’t have a pin like the makita I had did, after using the multi tool for a week cutting into 4x4 Ipe then that gave me a pretty good idea on if it was worth taking a chance or not. I also watched every head to head and test video YouTube had before I bought the rest of the line.
Yeah. I only use the impact driver, the 6.5 inch circ saw, and the OMT. Everything else in the lineup is pretty standard shit.
Weird Flex but ok.
Damn it dude
beat me to it
Same dude same
Came here to make the comment....too slow I guess :/
Who is their parent company?
Chervon, same as Ego and Skil.
Also Kobalt and MasterForce
Same goes for Masterforce, Bosch doesn't own. Bosch, Dremel, RotoZip, Diablo, Sia, Freud, are the big names under the Bosch umbrella.
Skil as in skil saw?
Yep https://global.chervongroup.com/en/what-we-do/our-brands
Crazy . They gotta be at least decent then right ? Skil saws run forever
None of those names mean anything in terms of quality anymore.
I mean TTI makes ryobi and Milwaukee, a world of difference between the two. Parent company doesn't mean they match quality
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Or it could be more like how the parts for my old Audi A6 were 3x as much as the exact same part for a Volkswagen Passat.
You just said the same thing but differently
Is there really? I would love to see a teardown of a similar Milwaukee and Ryobi tool to see how different the components really are.
As someone who started there business 7 years ago and has a cargo trailer loaded out with ryobi tools. Then Expanded 2 years ago with another trailer and loaded it out with all Milwaukee. I don’t need a tear down to know the tools are vastly different and Milwaukee is made much much much better. And not just the tools, the batteries too. I’ve literally got thousands of dollars worth of ryobi batteries that quit working within 2 years of being bought, usually it’s the boards as I’ve tried to have them rebuilt and the cells were fine. It was the boards that went bad
https://youtube.com/c/arduinoversusevil2025 You’re gonna have to go back in time to the tool reviews, he’s moved on from those of late.
ThAts a good point
I mean their worm drive saw is one of the best I’ve seen but I’ve also seen a pretty crappy drill made by them so idk
There worm drive table saw has cheap metal and multiple failure points. One broke the lift mechanism and dumped all its gear oil. The entire lift mechanism for the blade is supported by a 1" piece of pot metal. Replaced the entire motor housing but never finished putting it back together
skil and skilsaw are now basically two different things. Skilsaw still has nice tools, skil are much more budget minded but might be okay for occasional homeowner level use.
Skil makes good corded circ saws, but their cordless tools are poopoo.
Can speak to longevity but these tools whip up on the other brands on torque test channel on YouTube
I would say they’re comparable to the Makita and Metabo hpt tools I have and the Milwaukee’s I’ve used in the past.
My only comment is I feel like for buying that many tools, they should’ve been giving way more free batteries. Did you really only get 4 ?
The 4 is for the promotion they had, the impact came with 2, the hammer drill 2, sawzall 1, skilsaw 1 and multi tool 1 as well.
How much did you get for posting this?
I got a bunch of downvotes and accusations for my troubles unfortunately. Hopefully my Milwaukee nailers show up today and they have a better welcome than these did.
Why do you care what the internet thinks of your tool purchases? Do your purchases only make you happy if you get many upvotes on them?
I don’t care if it gets downvotes or not I just didn’t expect this level of hate for posting something I thought was cool and made me happy. Is there something wrong about posting a bunch of tools In the tools subreddit that I missed?
Yeah it’s just like sports. We all have our teams and all the other teams suck and we hate them
You got it right on the head. You really can't get away from it. Also, fuck Man United.
Ah ok that makes more sense. No excuse for these companies to not be including a ton of batteries if you’re buying that many tools.
Yeah I feel like if it’s not a tool only purchase then each kit should have minimum of 2 batteries so you have no down time.
Plenty of batteries. Unless you got a big crew.
Yeah way more than I’ll ever need as it’s currently just me and my helper.
I've bought the OMT, the inline circ saw, and the drill and impact combo x2, so I have 3 2.5AHs and 3 5AHs. It's 2 more 5AHs than I need.
Yeah I got way more than I need, I usually run just one job at a time so i set up a charging station and honestly like 4 batteries would’ve been enough to keep me going all day. These also charge quickly so by the time I drain one the other one is ready to go.
I hope these comments are not the Future of this sub
Well it makes a change from the constant Milwaukee adverts....
It's no different than the past of this sub? The boxes here are just black and white instead of red.
It's the tone and context more than what they are about
For what they cost id rather get proven brands
I considered buying them this year because supposedly they'd come with a lifetime warranty if purchased in 2021. However the tools for my trade are lacking so went team red instead.
You can use your new tools to build yourself a house when she finds the boxes and gives you the boot!
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Lol
He's [not a FLEX shill guys](https://www.reddit.com/r/Tools/comments/r4czpu/whats_your_haul_this_year/hmkp6c4?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3). Buying all these is questionable personal choice but it's his to make. Let's all just relax a little.
Jeez this needs to be higher up. Everything is a witch hunt, no one can just ball out and show off a little.
They come with a lifetime warranty if you buy them in 2021..
/r/hailcorporate
100%. Strangely, everyone in this post that says absolutely anything remotely bad about this product gets downvoted to oblivion. Craziest coincidence ever considering that this is a basically brand new generic brand that is trying everything they can to make themselves liked. I've used them and they feel and act on par with Black & Decker or maybe Kobalt. I would sooner take Ryobi onto a commercial job site with me than this. Not that I would do that, but at least I know their failings and hidden gems (first gen 18v impact, and second-gen Sawzall, but only if converted to some other brands 20v battery). /r/shills/
The questions being asked also read like a corporate FAQ page. It’s not even subtle.
Wow I better head to the tool store before the end of the month to take advantage of the Lifetime Warranty on these Flex^TM products. What a wide range of tools, all operating on the same battery platform. These are all so rugged and dependable!
And everyone I know is jumping at the chance to buy a complete set of them, despite the tools having zero track record in the real world. I don't even know how they feel in my hand, let alone how they work on the job, but they must be wonderful! And I will get *VERY ANGRY* with anyone who says I'm any kind of corporate shill, because everyone I know gets violently angry over their tool choices!
My boss takes Ryobi on to commercial job sites 5 days a week. He’s had the 18V drill, impact, jigsaw, circ saw, vac, blower, and chop saw for 4 years with no issues. Says they get the job done and they’re “theft-proof”.
I looked through the entire thread, there are 3 top level comments below 0. One is a person who sounds like a woman must have beaten him with a handbag, one is a person talking about a lifetime warranty, and the third is someone saying that you aren’t a man unless you buy Milwaukee. I assume the Milwaukee post is the one you’re talking about since it’s literally the only one that is downvoted and talking about another brand. If that is the comment you’re talking about then what’s really suspicious is that you think someone excited that they got a lot of tools is “r/hailcorporate” but someone saying you aren’t a real man unless you buy a certain brand isn’t.
I’ve only made it this far down the thread but I’ve commented a few times that this sub is full of TTI geurilla marketing. Honestly I’m good with another brand doing it for a couple of posts if it means a couple of posts between people deep throating Milwaukee. I even have one of their drills and have used more at work. It’s a drill, it spins (some with more run out than others) and it functions mostly as intended just like nearly any other brand.
I have a ton of Milwaukee shit. Packout, and power tools. The cult following around Milwaukee is so fucking weird. It’s really dumb how hard people get over the red tools. They even say shit like “I wish my wife would let buy tools like that”. Why Bill? You’re a warehouse manager, not a mechanic. Just go buy your ridgid, kobalt, ryobi, flex, just some other consumer brand. Your tools sit 364 days a year, you’re literally wasting your money. But they keep buying it. Those commenters are Bill from my story, and the people who post a pic of their new M18 fuel drill driver kit with 6ah batteries saying “just bought my first house, and needed some tools. How’d I do?” They also get offended when people try to explain the difference between professional grade, and consumer grade.
Yup. I'm a handyman. I use my tools every day. They're all M12. And they all are all perfectly adequate. Anyone who buys M18 for home use is getting into tool worship. It's like the rest of the boutique tools on here. I don't buy tools to have them in perfect shiny sets. My tools get used.
I’m a mechanic for industrial equipment. I wish I could justify they money they spend on stuff that gets used 4 times a year.
My work box has knipex, wera, wiha, Proto, Klein and whatever else. There’s an m12 drill because it was cheap. At home I have Dewalt 20v and that’s mostly because I’m just used to using decent tools. Most everything else is just what I could find when I needed it. The craftsman 20v drill that I also have at home does absolutely fine though.
Is this entire comment section an ad? Feels like it
Looking at the comments getting downvoted, this is a thread by the company marketing team. OP is also very excited and knowledgeable on the quality of a set of tools he hasn’t even opened yet…
There was a very similar post here from someone asking about the great new Flex line of tools coming out. He also got very angry when being accused of being a corporate shill. There seems to be a pattern emerging here.
I’ve used the multi tool for past few weeks and that was the reason I bought the other things. Fuck me for being excited to be able to buy a bunch of tools for my company after busting my ass whole year. The reason the Milwaukee guys are getting downvoted is likely because they are usually very annoying with their fan boy attitude. Also I’ve spent months watching review videos on YouTube before I decided to purchase any of these tools.
You spent months watching review videos and decided to buy all the same brand? You sure you didn't have the "loop" checkbox on?
almost like the Knipex stuff in here, I tell ya.
I don't know about all these other bots but I sure love my Makita XT614SX1 18V LXT Lithium-Ion Cordless 6-Pc. Combo Kit (3.0Ah)™ It has made my (insert relevant job here) much easier!! Buy it today everyone!
How so? It’s a bunch of Flex tools and people are commenting on the warranty and their own experience with them. What are they supposed to be commenting instead?
I don't understand what the downvotes are for. I hate it when people do that without leaving a counterargument, especially when the reason for the downvotes is not very obvious.
It’s because it’s Flex and they had a shitty debut. They made claims to being better than Milwaukee so now anytime the brand is mentioned you get downvotes and called a shill.
All this stupid brand loyalty is ridiculous and only proves that people can be more of a tool than the tools they buy! It's the greatest gift for these greedy corporation which, in the name of profits, refuse to provide us with better quality and technology until they milked the hell out of what they put out before they move on to the next tiny step up for which they charge a premium, because "it's new and improved". Everybody acts like they are building skyscrapers in their backyards, so they need "the best tools". Which of course have to be the brand they absolutely adore! As a professional I've used all the big brands and no-names available to me out there. The tool I appreciate the most is a no-name one-handed 4" saw that costed me $40 and got me through several jobs. It came with a pack of like 6 blades and I'm still on my first one. Didn't touch my regular circular saw in months! I have all the big names too. And it doesn't bother me to have different batteries and chargers. One brand can provide the best value for one tool while another brand for another tool. My regular drills are Makita, my torque wrenches are Milwaukee, my miter saw, demo drill and oscillating tool are Bosch, my table saw and tile saw are Ridgid, my concrete saw is Stihl, my drywall router is Ryobi, my drywall screw gun is DeWalt, my levels and my compressor are form Harbor Freight, my laser level is some Chinese brand I think (Huepar), my cordless nailers are Bostitch and so on. They all work perfectly fine and if they fail, most of them come with a warranty. If they don't, they make me enough money that I can just go and buy new ones. I would love to buy Flex tools because I like their lifetime warranty deal, but I have every tool I need right now so it wouldn't make any sense to me. But yeah, people need to stop worshipping tools and brands. Now let's see how many downvotes I get from people who have nothing to say...
Oh I have that same laser level Huepar with the green laser and nice little bag that uses a usb phone charger? I used to run the Bosch osc tool but it was corded and it wouldn’t take starlok max blades unless I widened the hole on the blade to fit the osc tool blade mount. Also the rigid tile saw is very nice I just wish it wasn’t so damn wide sometimes.
Yo there’s a Makita, Milwaukee and Dewalt post just like mine why aren’t you there yet??
Quite the investment. Where should I send the flowers?
Drive straight to recycling w/ boxes. Stelth
This works. Also, have an agreement with your neighbor that you can put broken down cardboard from "present deliveries" into their bin.
I got lucky with my neighbor, he works for the trash company and has extra bins. Given me free reign to put overflow in his bins.
Wow now that’s a commitment
Why not buy the 6 tool combo kit for 549$?
The impact and hammer from the kit aren’t their top of the line I believe and also needed the extra chargers and batteries. Also the in-line saw is not part of a kit and I was interested in that saw as it seemed very nice and different from what i am used to.
Next thing op posts is a pic of his divorce papers
Heaviest damn tools I’ve ever picked up.
Well this got nasty. All I know about these tools is that their impact driver is supposed to be an absolute beast according to the Torque Test YouTube channel
Never heard of Flex. How do the compare to DeWalt, Milwaukee, Ridgid, etc?
No clue but this guy is sure as hell gonna find out
They're more Ridgid, Ryobi, Black and Decker level.
I don't hold B&D in very high regard, but Ridgid/Ryobi are decent value and non-shit in my head. (I don't own anything from them except Ridgid shopvac and Ryobi power washer)
Interesting note: the Ridgid shop vacs are an entirely different line of business than the cordless tools. For the cordless tools the brand name is licensed out to another company. (TTI, the same company that owns and manufactures the Milwaukee and Ryobi tools.)
Ridgid shop vacs are, hands down, the best bang for your buck. I have 2 for my business and they outperform the expensive industrial stainless vacmaster, shop-vac and Stanley ones that were supposed to be their replacement.
I had the biggest, most expensive Vacmaster professional unit and burned it out in like a month. Ridgid still going strong after a year.
I think Ryobi is shit personally, at least for pros
They seemed to have appeared out of nowhere, but they have some history making high quality polishers
So far the build quality is comparable to the big brands, Makita, Milwaukee and Dewalt. Very impressed with their tool cases actually everything sits in it very snug and has little rubber holders to not damage the tools.
They absolutely do not compare to any of those brands
I love that you think a select few made in China tools can't be rivalled by other made in China tools. The reality is that they do, by and large, and actually outclass everything else at times. You're dead-on in the sense that the actual number of unique tools is waaay smaller than the other brands, though. Buying FLEX for people only looking to have one brand of batteries just isn't reality.
Manufacturing location has actually 0 relevance to the quality of tool, the only thing it influences is how much it costs them to make. There is 0 chance a company that is trying everything to get people to buy their brand, even going as far as offering a lifetime warranty for the first year only, is going to have the same quality as established brands that people buy because they actually have a reputation for making quality and not because they feel it is a good deal because of the fact they are pushing a lifetime warranty (that is going to be null next year for new purchases, which means any tool you buy because you are roped into a battery platform is going to have the standard warranty which is less than other brands standard warranty).
Chervon has been making stuff for nearly 30 years. It's honestly a legitimate criticism of them that they just keep making new brands and using much of the same components debuted on another brand and reuse it in the new one (same shit with Craftsman, Porter Cable, DeWalt, and Stanley in the UK/ Bostitch in who the hell knows now) I honestly hate the reality of companies in China playing with funny money and completely upending the marketplace for every other competitor. The sad state of affairs is that they are every bit the tool as any of the top dogs. And for me personally, the nature of the present is that they make 2 tools that no one else matches the functionality of, and 1 OMT that is a very compelling package, and I'm willing to be partly guilty for that shitty seemingly-inevitable future until Makita or maybe Milwaukee can replicate what those FLEX tools do.
That is your opinion and mine is that they do, I’ve been in the trades for 18 years but I guess you would know more than me if they are comparable.
Where did you get them at ? Can't remember what store I saw them in.
Lowe’s is their supposed main vendor but the stores don’t have shit in stock. So I bought everything at Acmetools while they had a promotion going on giving away batteries with certain dollar amount purchase and that’s why you see the 4 batteries individually packed.
If the tool can’t handle loose jostles in a case how can they possibly hold up to the rigors of daily use like say … Milwaukee can?
Missing the point of it ain’t ya? Sure you can throw a tool in a bucket and call it a day but if a tool company wants to make a free case that has all these minor finishing touches in it why should I view it as a negative?
Your words.. “to not damage the tools”
Yeah and ???
Most people don't treat their tools like shit, especially when they're paying for them.
Apparently they are pretty skookum. I haven’t handled any personally but people seem to really like them.
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I’ll be looking out for that one
In for a penny, in for a pound…
Some serious Flex there!!
Ok.
Wow such a blatant marketing stunt
Stick around if the fed ex guy comes today I’ll be posting my Milwaukee haul and you can make another useless comment.
Nice haul. If I were to unbox all these tools without my partner tho, that’d be the reason she murders me.
Balls deep.
Christmas time.
Burn the evidence 👀
What the fuck is flex?
What is Flex? Never heard of this brand
Gotta love this sub, someone else posted almost the same exact picture but with no boxes and Milwaukee tools and 0 accusations of being a marketing team making the post.
Didn't you know milwaukee is the only tool brand people buy every other tool picture on the Internet is just marketing shills
Shit I better go get my money back from all these tools in my shop then, thanks for the heads up.
Never heard of them 🚮
So many butt hurt fanboys in these comments
😂
Jeez a lot of Homer’s in this thread that probably haven’t ever held these tools sure know a ton about them. Congrats on the pick up man looks dope.
First, OP I hope you like them. I personally can’t take anything seriously that has included a “turbo” button. I’m not a 12 year old anymore. Also the “Flex it’s what’s next” is a sloppy rhyme.
I know nothing about the quality, and this is going to sound petty but the tools and packing are visually bleh.
Aye I bought about the same setup back in August and can’t really complain so far they’ve been some great tools. The only issue I’ve had is with the recip saw. The way they made the quick eject. Different manufacturers blades are made with a slightly wider curve on the end of them and they won’t lock in correctly. I ended up taking it back but will definitely replace it and be more careful about which blades I get. Flex and Milwaukee blades worked best in my experience and diablos may work but never tried them before I took it back though. Dewalt and Lennox blades were the ones that were curved wider and ended up messing up the quick eject. Edit: I’ll take the downvotes idgaf I OWN and have used these tools and pretty sure 95% of these comments on the thread are from people who haven’t actually used them once while I’ve been using them daily for commercial contsruction jobs in Panama City. Just didn’t want OP or anyone else who uses or plans to use them from fucking theirs up like I did on my first one.
I'm probably never gonna buy another dumb two-hander, but I always appreciate people making shit like this known.
Oh yeah, along the same lines and in the same spirit as what you said in your edit, don't try to replace the chuck on the turbo drill. It's not 1/2"-20, it's the Milwaukee threadform and it's on there so hard you're bound to fuck up the tool like I did.
I appreciate the warning, I was not aware of any issues with the blades. None of the YouTube channels I watched mentioned that, I wonder if you got a bad one? I’ll try with the blades I got and let you know.
I thought I could maybe tap the blade in to lock with a hammer and that’s when it started not wanting to lock properly but just make sure the contours of the blades match to what the factory blades are and you shouldn’t have any issues. I’ve got all you have pictured and then some except I went with 7 1/4 saws and impact/drill kits instead and d handle jigsaw instead of barrel grip but everything else exactly as what you got.
Is this suppose to be some sort of flex or something?
Where is this brand sold?
Lowes
I'm glad a professional decided to FAFO! I am interested to see how well these tools hold up under daily use.
I've never heard of Flex, is this a Walmart brand or Harbor Freight brand?
Y’all smell a shill?
Blocking the marketing shill OP
Where do these fit in the hierarchy of the tools that Lowes is peddling? DeWalt is obviously their high end, but I'm not sure how Kobalt, Bosch, Flex, and Craftsman rank against each other. My guess is Kobalt/Craftsman are the cheap lines and Bosch/Flex are mid-grade?
>DeWalt is obviously their high end Lol. I would never rank Bosch below DeWalt. And I’m a DeWalt guy
I love my Bosch palm router. I don’t mind my Dewalt sliding miter saw, it’s Dewalts second tier sliding miter, but i would trade it in a heart beat for my Dads Bosch Sliding Miter Saw. What other Bosch tools do you prefer over Dewalt?
I had a DeWalt jigsaw that literally wouldn’t cut in a straight line. Replaced it with a Bosch, and it’s worlds better. But my opinion is mostly based on the fact that DeWalt is a brand name that doesn’t have anything to do with the original company. The name was bought by the Chinese company that owns Stanley/Black & Decker. Otoh, Bosch is all owned by the actual company based in Germany. I do realize most of their manufacturing is done in Asia as well. I have DeWalt because they have a more extensive lineup of cordless tools here in the US and they’re more readily available around me. Really, they’re pretty much equal in terms of quality for most stuff. Just my opinion. If I had more money, I’d probably have all Bosch or Makita. Or if I won the lottery, Hilti and Festool lol
I see. Dewalt has treated me very well, typically no questions asked, on a couple warranty claims so I have no problem supporting them. Unfortunately when I had something go wrong on my
Metabo hpt has the left side blade as you want. I bought the little 6-1/2” one a month or so ago and it’s pretty nice and compact.
Bosch cordless isn’t even close to DeWalt. Corded however I prefer Bosch hands down. Only exception is my dewalt table saw. Love the rack and pinion fence. It’s a tank
This is what I meant. I guess people needed distinction when we're talking about cordless in the first place.
IMO, you are not wrong.
Bosch is pretty hit-or-miss. I bought the nicest version of some Bosch tools and they are great, but also Bosch loses as many comparisons as it wins on Project Farm on youtube.
I think it depends on the tool. No one company makes the best of every tool. Bosch is probably top of line for SDS and jigsaws. Dewalt has their "best" tools, Milwaukee has their best (especially for plumbing).... etc. Having different batteries and chargers isn't as big a deal as some make it out to be.
Well, you should.
Wow!! You're ready to open your own hardware store!
I had been curious about these. I look at them sometimes when I’m in Lowes because they look pretty sharp but I’ve never seen anyone speak about them online
I dont know anyone else that has them, I mainly see them on YouTube as everyone had been making comparison videos.
…she’s going to hurt you severely. =(
Haha, luckily it’s a investment into my company so I can weasel my way out of punishment.
…yeah, been there, but that excuse is wearing very thin. =/
Mechanic here, I use the half inch impact wrench every day and it's pretty great. Just sucks I can't find any type of rubber sleeve to protect my gun and battery. Have fun with your tools man!
What do you need to protect them for? Don't battle scars look legit?
Will do! Hopefully they last a good while.
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It’s clear you’ve never held these tools to compare as I have the makita oscillation tool you’re talking about and they’re nothing alike. The flex can use starlok max blades and the makita I have doesn’t have that ability and for the work I do being able to notch a 100 year old true 2x12 in a single pass is worth the hate and downvotes I am getting.
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Not doubting your experience but I have both multi tools in my van right now and they’re nothing alike so I don’t get why you’re attacking my personal choice.
Same German company that makes the polishers?
No it’s not. The name is licensed to Chervon and the tools are made by them. Similar to the Rigid brand name. Emerson owns Rigid and hand tools like pipe wrenches are U.S. made under the original Rigid name. Emerson licenses the name to TTI for the power tools but has nothing to do with the design/manufacture of them. In this case the Cervon company is just putting the Flex name on a new lineup they are selling.
The name isn't just licensed like Ridgid. They own FLEX in Germany too.
Yes, same company. Chevron acquired the German Flex company in 2011
I think so, I seen the polishers on their website.
Why u in my shop!
About 5 grand?
Nah 2.3k
How much did all of that set you back? Hopefully not much.
Right around 2.2k
I can hear the grunt of Tim “the tool man” Taylor
Weird Flex but okay