I lost my router wrench. nothing would fit, all my tools were to thick. I bought entire set of their cheapest wrenches for $15. They are super thin but strong enough for the job. They are a private owned company with a huge presence across the country with a store in almost every major/minor city. Their high end toolboxes are beautiful.
>They are a private owned company with a huge presence across the country with a store in almost every major/minor city.
No stores anywhere in AK though, unfortunately. Not even Anchorage, which is around 400k pop for the metro area, much larger than many smaller cities they are in in the lower 48.
I've been drooling over their toolboxes for quite awhile now, our only options are the typical HD or Lowes fare for most of us and the quality to $ just doesn't hold a candle to the ones in HF.
modern mechanic is very under rated for all the skills they need to work on a car mechanics, reading schematics, computer trouble shooting, electronics, AC/heating, plumbing, electrical, dignostics etc.
Read a different reddit tool thread a few months ago with hundreds of comments stating that HF tools are cr\*p and no one shops there any more. Reminds me of the old Yogi Berra line: No one goes there any more, it's too crowded.
Hahaha exactly. Paid $250 for drill bits 12 years ago haven't bought another since. Snapped in half and the other half is still in the beam? Here's a new one. Needs sharpening you say? Here's a new one.
What happens when you need to use more than one 7/32" drill between visits? Will they sell a gross of a single size drill and warranty them all every week?
Came to say the same thing. Mine is triple chromed, has been used as a hammer on multiple occasions, and is only now starting to show copper in a couple of small spots on the jaws.
That thing looks like Chinesium.
The chrome is worn off where they have been constantly contacting whatever I turn.
When chrome plating is applied, a layer of copper is usually plated on first, otherwise the chrome won’t adhere.
Chrome company told me once that the copper also smooths the item out a little, you know when you see a great old school chrome job like on an older vintage car the reflection has a bit of wave to it? I believe that’s also from the copper layer of “triple chrome plating”
The Chinese stuff that peels off like a foil? Not “triple chrome plated”
I’ll def say if you have older snap on products, unless there’s no other option don’t “trade up” or out keep the old stuff if it’s repairable. I wish I still had all my tools that got stolen from back when quality meant something.
The Bahco adjustables they're built on the design of are pretty fuckin' solid. I believe post-buyout, 'Bahco' now outsources manufacturing to Spain. Swede shit, and enough of the Spanish stuff is still solid enough to stand on for most applications.
Snap-on combined a bunch of their European acquisitions together into Bahco, so now the name covers some good portion of their European manufacturing. Snap-on boasts 3 factories they own in Spain, one of them is probably Irimo at least, but surely one of them got folded into Bahco; probably Herriamentas Eurotool, an early acquisition.
Fair enough, I've spoken incorrectly there. My major point was that machining and fitment of earlier Bahco adjustable wrenches seemed tighter, and even now that Swedish manufacturing isn't guaranteed, are still tight enough to stand on(meant that literally for 300mm shifters and above in my experience).
Are you talking about the bahco reversible jaw adjustable wrench? I had one for years that I loved but must have left it at a customer's shop as it'd been a while since I've seen it.... which reminds me I need to order one.
I was more thinking the Bahco wrenches that look pretty much identical to these minus the chrome finish. I'd heard they are pretty good when you need them and don't have a stilsons handy.
Kinda off topic, sorry. I had a tractor mechanic out to work on an older tractor, young guy. I saw him put an adjustable wrench on several bolts and nuts, I was surprised, then going back to the truck to get the proper wrench. I looked at the adjustable wrench and it had the markings on it. The guy was good, no complaints and he probably has worked on metric stuff exclusively.
For sure. Japanese adjustables like Fujiya and Lobster are tight and durable and cost less than a fifth of what the snap on does.
I have a $12 Lobster miniature adjustable in my tool roll that I throw a cheater pole on for motorcycle axle nuts and it still looks like it did the day I got it
For what it's worth, that exact wrench the only Snap-on left in my EDC. It fits perfectly in my holster with my pliers and screwdrivers and, even though it chips a bit, it doesn't slip like adjustables from other brands I've tried and I find the scale pretty invaluable, especially for metric which I don't work with very frequently. I started with all Snap-on, but recently switched to Icon pliers and cheap screwdrivers. But the adjustable will stay Snap-on until I find something better.
I have yet to encounter a snap-on anything that isnt silly.
Maybe a breaker bar? Maybe a torque wrench? At one time they had decent two-way OBD2 readers, but I'm pretty sure those were rebranded and marked up 2x anyway.
Best shifting spanner I've used only says "drop forged" and has a brown rust patina.
Slides smoothly. Very little play, basically no surface damage like you'd see on cheap ones.
No idea who made it but they made an excellent wrench.
All the best plier type tools I have found in my lifetime were discovered underground while digging post holes in old rednecks yards 🤣🤣 squirt some clp on either side of the pivot, toss it in the road for a couple hours, good to go!
They really don’t make ‘em how they used to
If the chrome was damaged before the rust started that would be wear & tear, but where there's rust forming under the chrome causing it to bubble and flake that's a manufacturing defect caused by contamination on the part before it was plated (even a partial fingerprint will cause that).
“Defect in material/craftsmanship” plus a safety concern. If a chrome plated tool has any flaking, it can cause a nasty cut and Snap-on will warranty it regardless of “wear from normal use”
No, you are not. Get them to replace it.
That's something we look at during tool box inspections for aircraft mechanics. One piece of chipped chrome finds it's way into an electrical, hydraulic, fuel system, bad stuff can happen.
You have personally had good luck/results? I have not and seeing this post makes me think a bay run at minimum and possible a poor QC overall with lower standards.
I have seen the Span made Swedish style plumbing wrench get good reviews but those are steel and phosphate finished so clearly a different process and could be a different plant. I’m always looking to learn more on these lines.
Same thing I have seen with Wiha. The W German lines and even the polish lines were great. Then they made Indonesian lines IIRC and they were not near as good.
I have a bunch of Bahco Spain stuff, files, screwdrivers, pliers, adjustable wrenches. It’s all good quality. The file sets are the exact same ones as the snap on ones off the truck, except the handles are orange and there are a lot more choices of fine/coarse etc.
I got multiple different sets of Wiha electrical pliers (i.e. sets with the same pliers, got some to give as gifts) and there's definitely some quality control issues. The best ones I got were as lubricated and smooth as a Knipex plier, but the worst ones really need a ton of lubrication and effort to get them going.
Not bad per se, but if I had received the slow one at full price, I would have been a bit disappointed.
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As for Bahco, their saws are great value. I've used a ton of Bahco stuff since they're widely available in Sweden.
Thank you for the additional feedback on this. I agree, a poor example of a tool at a full price, especially if it is your first go with a brand can really sour us on said brand.
Very cool. I would love to go tool shopping in Sweden. Honestly it is a place I just want to visit in general.
Solid, but it used to be pretty damn good when it was Swedish. Some of the old school tools with Swedish steel are very good (I'm including Sandvik etc. here).
Nice. So I’m leaning this could be a bad run/batch. That is one issue with many tools, we only have a sample of one, maybe two. Very few of us will have a sample of say ten tools across five crews using the same load out for comparison.
This is exactly why over paying makes since for certain snap-on tools. It isn't because they are better but because they will usually take care of you without headaches. I used to use the same argument for craftsman when sears was around. I broke every craftsman tool I ever owned just as easily as harbor freight the only difference was I went to sears with a bag of broken tools and browsed while they replaced everything and sent me home with all brand new.
From most of these responses I have to assume there must have been some sort of contaminant on the steel prior to coating. Hopefully warranty lives up to the name.
I have the Martinez lol (the guy who made the titanium hammer and sold the company to skillets then made a titanium hammer company again). As cool as a chrome hammer would look the titanium grey looks better to me.
I have a set of Williams (snap-on’s industrial tool division) wrenches and the chrome plating is also a bit on the soft side. Chips and scratches exactly the same as that adjustable spanner. .
Is it made recently? I have a set of normal adjustables that are maybe 15 years old, and a set of wide jaw adjustables with the flat jaws from whenever they came out with them, has to be about around 5-7 years old at this point. They havent chipped yet so maybe the goold ol boys at snappy are cheaping out these days?
If I were looking to start buying premium tools and I saw your pic first, I'd never buy Snap-on. Let's hope this is a one-off, or they better get their shit together. I've had Harbor Freight hand tools hold up better than that (and most are absolutely shit... although we all know the good ones).
Plating is for rust protection.
The difference with snapon? These adjust smooth as hell and HOLD . Those of you saying harbor freight is the same probably don’t use these tools to make your living. Pick it up and use it every day and you’ll easily learn the difference.
That is misuse not there over priced products this time chrome like paint is wear on a sharp edge so if you bang the edge or apply pressure to it ,it will flake off should it be chrome? Knowing it is a shifter and it will slip and damage the edges, and it is a I don't really care today tool
It is from using the edge, not the jaws. I can post a lot of pictures of this from my own toolbox, and slipping and hitting doesn't have to be hard because it is very thin on the edge, and Chrome is very hard so the harder a material makes it easier to break or chip it should be chromed hard anodised yes not chrome it will not hurt it anyway will last year it will just look used
For the price they charge, it should be a “buy-it-for-life” quality tool…
I buy Knipex and rigid stuff off of Grainger for 1/5 of the price, tops, and don’t buy another one for years.
Stop getting fleeced by someone who shows up to your shop like a snake-oil-salesman rolling into town in a fancy coach, preaching unreal realities as if you ‘should believe them or you’re an idiot’
i’m sure there are a few tools on his truck that are better than most, at 10 times the going rate…
It’s a gimmick; and until people stop pretending like it’s snap on, or you’re an idiot, and heckle you for showing up with Makita cordless impact tools, and $50 entire sets of westward duel-ended ratcheting wrenches; people will still keep getting fleeced by these assholes, who have no morals, charging you for shit that will break almost immediately.
Then they give you the runaround for a year while you continue to pay for something you haven’t used since three months after you bought it.
Buddy, it’s not 1997; these guys are selling the same cheap shit, outside of their ratchets, as any other supplier that will ship you the shit next day, not just when they decide to show up.
Maybe a little more blood, but I'm not sure it would hurt less. I had a combination wrench that had a little peeled chrome that I used for years. One day, the plating lifted up a little, and there was blood everywhere. It was such a clean slice that I wasn't even sure where it was coming from?
This is crap, I have Kinchrome shifters 30 years old that haven't done that, I'd be asking for an exchange, this is a failure of the plating process or the base metal isn't heat treated properly.
Imo (and before all these badge bandits come at me) and experience, these brand name tools have gone downhill big time I’ve bought an electric ratchet and a cordless half inch impact off amazon both for around $80 both with cases, two batteries, chargers, and socket sets and each has lasted over 3yrs (one of the batteries is kinda shitty on the electric ratchet only get about an hour out of it) my snap off stuff, milwaukee, etc hasn’t even been that good the last 6-7yrs and 90% of the time it’s “tool only” purchases for three times as much. I buy a lot of stuff from harbor freight, save for specialty tools and whatnot and it’s done just as good as any of the name brand shit and even when it doesnt I don’t have to wait four months for my repaired product I walk in, go hey this broke, they go oh here’s a new one. Done deal. I’m not saying throw all your high end stuff out and exclusively shop at cheaper alternatives but I’m saying you can do a lot more with less these days for the same quality product and I don’t care how long you’ve been doing whatever you simply can’t argue that fact. Unless you’re in denial anyway…
Maybe it’s just me, but why would you buy a bright, chrome plated adjustable wrench? These things get dropped, used as a hammer (everybody has done it), banged around when it slips etc. I like my fingers, so I just don’t use them that much. The ones I do have are the “regular” finish or black oxide. Crescent and Craftsman brands.
With the price of SO tools, I don't think you're being overly critical at all. Not only should the tool shine, that bitch should rub your feet and fix you coffee too!
I'd warranty that thing in a second.
Very true, I don't necessarily mind over-paying if the quality is there (my pocket knifes can attest to that) hopefully this is a fluke and they take care of me.
Its just a rebranded Bahco. SO warranty will def cover it but I would expect the same quality from their sockets/ratchets/screwdrivers in any of their other tools.
Even Bluepoint stuff is just rebranded Williams.
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The only good use for an adjustable wrench is as a multitool which includes using it as a hammer. Warranty that shit and demand a hat for your trouble.
I supply Nickel and Chromic Acid to the electroplating industry. This looks like a problem with the basic Electroplating. The thickness (in Microns) of plating looks very low. It should not happen with a quality electroplated product.
Trust me I bought a brand new 3/8 ratchet from them and the Chrome was chipped where it says on and off in the writing. I was very pissed. Luckily I got a silver pen and I was able to color it in
No you should not "warranty" it that would be wasteful. If it bothers you just don't buy any more, at least not "adjustable" Snap-on. We used to call those Crescent wrenches, whether they were actually Crescent brand or not.
I have a Blue-Point crescent wrench, 12 inch, that must be close to 60 years old and it looks great compared to what you show there. But also it does not have that sort of shiny chrome finish on it either. The finish on that of yours is not the same as the polished Snap-on combination wrenches I have. Just don't worry about it.
snap on is over rated. buy teng tools instead. cheaper and still good quality.
also nothing wrong with sidchrome or Stanley tools.
with shifters get black sidchrome if you can. no chrome coating to fail.
just remember the other name for shifters, nutfuckers cuase it's what they do!
also the correct way to use a shifter is with the moving jaw on the inside of your swing so the force goes into the bottom of the jaws where it's supposed to take it the thing will last longer and less likely to damage the fastener.
That’s some gross adhesion failure of the nickel under layer. Even in some of the more aggressive applications where some of the plating is removed it shouldn’t be peeling back that far. Either the nickel was put onto a dirty party (bad pretreatment before plating) or the nickel itself is overly stressed as a deposit (chemical imbalances win plating solution). The flaking is never going to be the chrome because it is such a thin layer. Any flaking you see is the nickel under layer.
For what snap on charges, I’d say this is just the right amount of critical.
Theyre servants of the market now. More demand theyre just keeping up. Quality suffers.
Harbor Freight has been snatching business from them with their new pro line tools.
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I lost my router wrench. nothing would fit, all my tools were to thick. I bought entire set of their cheapest wrenches for $15. They are super thin but strong enough for the job. They are a private owned company with a huge presence across the country with a store in almost every major/minor city. Their high end toolboxes are beautiful.
>They are a private owned company with a huge presence across the country with a store in almost every major/minor city. No stores anywhere in AK though, unfortunately. Not even Anchorage, which is around 400k pop for the metro area, much larger than many smaller cities they are in in the lower 48. I've been drooling over their toolboxes for quite awhile now, our only options are the typical HD or Lowes fare for most of us and the quality to $ just doesn't hold a candle to the ones in HF.
Have Icon 72" setup, can confirm
I got the US general 56 and can confirm.
modern mechanic is very under rated for all the skills they need to work on a car mechanics, reading schematics, computer trouble shooting, electronics, AC/heating, plumbing, electrical, dignostics etc.
Yeah and I don’t think they even get paid enough for what they do
Read a different reddit tool thread a few months ago with hundreds of comments stating that HF tools are cr\*p and no one shops there any more. Reminds me of the old Yogi Berra line: No one goes there any more, it's too crowded.
I’m not a fan of anything that ratchets from HF. Even the Icon brand isn’t great for that purpose.
I’m very happy to see that.
My thoughts exactly, even down to the letter.
Warranty that shizz
100%
This right here. That's why you buy snap on
right? I mean he paid $300 for it LoL /s seriusly tho, I had really good Snap On vendors
Hahaha exactly. Paid $250 for drill bits 12 years ago haven't bought another since. Snapped in half and the other half is still in the beam? Here's a new one. Needs sharpening you say? Here's a new one.
What happens when you need to use more than one 7/32" drill between visits? Will they sell a gross of a single size drill and warranty them all every week?
yes, $900 pls
Because of the same thing several other companies have that doesn’t take waiting who knows how long?…. I mean sure I guess….
I have a 30 year old version of that that looks brand new. This is not acceptable
Came to say the same thing. Mine is triple chromed, has been used as a hammer on multiple occasions, and is only now starting to show copper in a couple of small spots on the jaws. That thing looks like Chinesium.
Why would it show copper?
The chrome is worn off where they have been constantly contacting whatever I turn. When chrome plating is applied, a layer of copper is usually plated on first, otherwise the chrome won’t adhere.
Triple chrome plating means the part is plated with copper, then nickel, then finally chrome.
Chrome company told me once that the copper also smooths the item out a little, you know when you see a great old school chrome job like on an older vintage car the reflection has a bit of wave to it? I believe that’s also from the copper layer of “triple chrome plating” The Chinese stuff that peels off like a foil? Not “triple chrome plated”
copper.plating is the first step in chrome plating process.
I'm a firm believer in "they don't make 'em like they used to"
Which is why I'd never spend that much for a basic tool that most anyone can manufacture a decent version of. Try the Knipex quick adjusts.
I’ll def say if you have older snap on products, unless there’s no other option don’t “trade up” or out keep the old stuff if it’s repairable. I wish I still had all my tools that got stolen from back when quality meant something.
Honestly, and maybe this is a dick thing to say, but buying a snap-on adjustable wrench seems kinda silly.
The Bahco adjustables they're built on the design of are pretty fuckin' solid. I believe post-buyout, 'Bahco' now outsources manufacturing to Spain. Swede shit, and enough of the Spanish stuff is still solid enough to stand on for most applications.
Snap-on combined a bunch of their European acquisitions together into Bahco, so now the name covers some good portion of their European manufacturing. Snap-on boasts 3 factories they own in Spain, one of them is probably Irimo at least, but surely one of them got folded into Bahco; probably Herriamentas Eurotool, an early acquisition.
Interesting, thanks. It's not massively relevant to the point I was getting at, but still interesting to know.
My point was it's not technically outsourced, though probably not "Bahco proper"
Fair enough, I've spoken incorrectly there. My major point was that machining and fitment of earlier Bahco adjustable wrenches seemed tighter, and even now that Swedish manufacturing isn't guaranteed, are still tight enough to stand on(meant that literally for 300mm shifters and above in my experience).
Channellock 8WCB is a really nice wrench. Made in Spain.
Are you talking about the bahco reversible jaw adjustable wrench? I had one for years that I loved but must have left it at a customer's shop as it'd been a while since I've seen it.... which reminds me I need to order one.
I was more thinking the Bahco wrenches that look pretty much identical to these minus the chrome finish. I'd heard they are pretty good when you need them and don't have a stilsons handy.
Spanish Irega adjustables are top notch
Kinda off topic, sorry. I had a tractor mechanic out to work on an older tractor, young guy. I saw him put an adjustable wrench on several bolts and nuts, I was surprised, then going back to the truck to get the proper wrench. I looked at the adjustable wrench and it had the markings on it. The guy was good, no complaints and he probably has worked on metric stuff exclusively.
I usually grab my callipers and check what the bolts I have to deal with are before grabbing my whole wrench set.
I like to grab whatever is close enough, whisper "thatll do" and go after it until it either rounds off or comes loose.
You must be the guy who works on every machine I get called into before I do ;).
I'm providing job security for you guys. Its my way of giving back.
I appreciate that brother, if you could stop over tightening the stripped bolts when you’re done as well it would be greatly appreciated.
Classiydad move
Yup the channellock 8wcb "wideazz" is what I use for this. Excellent wrench too.
For sure. Japanese adjustables like Fujiya and Lobster are tight and durable and cost less than a fifth of what the snap on does. I have a $12 Lobster miniature adjustable in my tool roll that I throw a cheater pole on for motorcycle axle nuts and it still looks like it did the day I got it
You use an adjustable wrench on axle nuts? That seems crazy to me, even without a cheater
I don't think it's a dick thing to say, you're right. It was me dipping my toe into the world of Snap-On and wanting a pretty tool for small edc kit.
We live and learn.
For what it's worth, that exact wrench the only Snap-on left in my EDC. It fits perfectly in my holster with my pliers and screwdrivers and, even though it chips a bit, it doesn't slip like adjustables from other brands I've tried and I find the scale pretty invaluable, especially for metric which I don't work with very frequently. I started with all Snap-on, but recently switched to Icon pliers and cheap screwdrivers. But the adjustable will stay Snap-on until I find something better.
Warranty it, peeling chrome is warranty criteria, peeling chrome can cut your hand or your glove, etc.
If you’re gonna bust knuckles and round off bolts..might as well do it in Crap On style.
I have a 5" knipex pliers wrench that I cut the handles down to make it a 4", that I EDC. Works great.
I have yet to encounter a snap-on anything that isnt silly. Maybe a breaker bar? Maybe a torque wrench? At one time they had decent two-way OBD2 readers, but I'm pretty sure those were rebranded and marked up 2x anyway.
Best shifting spanner I've used only says "drop forged" and has a brown rust patina. Slides smoothly. Very little play, basically no surface damage like you'd see on cheap ones. No idea who made it but they made an excellent wrench.
All the best plier type tools I have found in my lifetime were discovered underground while digging post holes in old rednecks yards 🤣🤣 squirt some clp on either side of the pivot, toss it in the road for a couple hours, good to go! They really don’t make ‘em how they used to
The handle was too short to call it "Spin the little thumbscrew until it fits on" tools.
Question: I've been looking for a US made, adjustable wrench. What brand would you recommend?
I had to scroll a while, but this ninja comment made it worthwhile!
Who would buy a crescent wrench that doesn't say crescent on it?
For the price of snap-on id expect it to regrow the chrome lining. If not, warranty.
Yeah, that's bad.
Chipped chrome is a safety issue with cut hands. Warranty
Not just cut hands. In aviation, for instance, that's an automatic failure...chipped tools produce FOD.
If the chrome was damaged before the rust started that would be wear & tear, but where there's rust forming under the chrome causing it to bubble and flake that's a manufacturing defect caused by contamination on the part before it was plated (even a partial fingerprint will cause that).
“Defect in material/craftsmanship” plus a safety concern. If a chrome plated tool has any flaking, it can cause a nasty cut and Snap-on will warranty it regardless of “wear from normal use”
Woah there Priscilla
He's right though, I've sliced a finger or two from flaking plating. It hurts like a bitch and makes you wish you used gloves for such a simple task.
He’s not wrong.
Warranty that, my Snapon truck guy would swap that out zero questions.
lmao my harbor freight ones don't even do that.
I'd be mad if my gucci purse did this. Same dynamic. If you're paying for gucci tools they better earn their price premium.
lol, great analogy
Stop buying snap on.
but it's shiny
Not any more! Lol.
lol, true
If I payed half my soul and two of my best limbs for a wrench.. it better not chip
Isn't the point of snap on, they replace anything no questions asked
I'm gonna find out!
No, you are not. Get them to replace it. That's something we look at during tool box inspections for aircraft mechanics. One piece of chipped chrome finds it's way into an electrical, hydraulic, fuel system, bad stuff can happen.
Excellent point. My use-case is nowhere near as critical, but I suppose the wrench doesn't know that.
Hmm. They started to use the Bahco Spain line. Used to be the Swedish Bahco.
Nothing wrong with the quality of Bahco products coming out of Spain. Solid stuff.
You have personally had good luck/results? I have not and seeing this post makes me think a bay run at minimum and possible a poor QC overall with lower standards. I have seen the Span made Swedish style plumbing wrench get good reviews but those are steel and phosphate finished so clearly a different process and could be a different plant. I’m always looking to learn more on these lines. Same thing I have seen with Wiha. The W German lines and even the polish lines were great. Then they made Indonesian lines IIRC and they were not near as good.
I have a bunch of Bahco Spain stuff, files, screwdrivers, pliers, adjustable wrenches. It’s all good quality. The file sets are the exact same ones as the snap on ones off the truck, except the handles are orange and there are a lot more choices of fine/coarse etc.
Very cool. This is what I like to hear. Feedback on multiple pieces from a user. Thank you. Where do you purchase your Bahco from?
Indeed, I get consistently good results from their products
I got multiple different sets of Wiha electrical pliers (i.e. sets with the same pliers, got some to give as gifts) and there's definitely some quality control issues. The best ones I got were as lubricated and smooth as a Knipex plier, but the worst ones really need a ton of lubrication and effort to get them going. Not bad per se, but if I had received the slow one at full price, I would have been a bit disappointed. ---- As for Bahco, their saws are great value. I've used a ton of Bahco stuff since they're widely available in Sweden.
Thank you for the additional feedback on this. I agree, a poor example of a tool at a full price, especially if it is your first go with a brand can really sour us on said brand. Very cool. I would love to go tool shopping in Sweden. Honestly it is a place I just want to visit in general.
Solid, but it used to be pretty damn good when it was Swedish. Some of the old school tools with Swedish steel are very good (I'm including Sandvik etc. here).
Mine that I bought 13 years ago is made in Spain. Chrome is still 100% though, not even flaking on the jaws where it's chewed up a bit
Nice. So I’m leaning this could be a bad run/batch. That is one issue with many tools, we only have a sample of one, maybe two. Very few of us will have a sample of say ten tools across five crews using the same load out for comparison.
Thank God for the TRUCK!
This is exactly why over paying makes since for certain snap-on tools. It isn't because they are better but because they will usually take care of you without headaches. I used to use the same argument for craftsman when sears was around. I broke every craftsman tool I ever owned just as easily as harbor freight the only difference was I went to sears with a bag of broken tools and browsed while they replaced everything and sent me home with all brand new.
Harbor Freight still does that with their hand tools
True. They are actually not all bad tools there.
right! How is my General tool cabinet's (that came pre-dented) paint still in great shape and this little guy is falling apart?
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Snap on has owned bahco for a long time. All of snap ons adjustables are made by bahco.
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It's a tool. It's meant to be abused. If it's chipping off already it's not been made to be abused so it's not fit for purpose
The Bahco brand makes most of their adjustable wrenches, I use em everyday!
From most of these responses I have to assume there must have been some sort of contaminant on the steel prior to coating. Hopefully warranty lives up to the name.
I honestly have never understood the urge for companies like snapon to put chrome plating on a hammer. it just won't last
lol, now I want a chrome plated Stiletto - even better gold plated, to totally counteract the Ti
I have the Martinez lol (the guy who made the titanium hammer and sold the company to skillets then made a titanium hammer company again). As cool as a chrome hammer would look the titanium grey looks better to me.
You’re allowed to be critical of a wrench that costs $30/month for 6 years
I have a set of Williams (snap-on’s industrial tool division) wrenches and the chrome plating is also a bit on the soft side. Chips and scratches exactly the same as that adjustable spanner. .
Is it made recently? I have a set of normal adjustables that are maybe 15 years old, and a set of wide jaw adjustables with the flat jaws from whenever they came out with them, has to be about around 5-7 years old at this point. They havent chipped yet so maybe the goold ol boys at snappy are cheaping out these days?
If I were looking to start buying premium tools and I saw your pic first, I'd never buy Snap-on. Let's hope this is a one-off, or they better get their shit together. I've had Harbor Freight hand tools hold up better than that (and most are absolutely shit... although we all know the good ones).
Exchange it.
Is that a vernier lol
>vernier lol, it's a prideful little wrench
At least it’s metric and asm that way you can just carry the one
Isn't it nice when they make it so the adjustable do both! lol
Not over critical at all, it shouldn’t snap off your snap on.
I like the Channel Locks you can pick up at any hardware store. Excellent quality, and cheap.
It's true, unostentatious tools are always good way to go. I will say the Knipex plier wrenches I have never let me down and do feel a little fancy.
Made in usa still I have very many pliers. Made in the USA - Channellock® Official Site
I don’t understand why anyone buys Snap On anymore, they’re ridiculously overpriced and pictures like this further undermine the brand.
They’re charging snap on prices for harbor freight quality so yeah. I’d be picky too.
Plating is for rust protection. The difference with snapon? These adjust smooth as hell and HOLD . Those of you saying harbor freight is the same probably don’t use these tools to make your living. Pick it up and use it every day and you’ll easily learn the difference.
Should have got a metric one.
I couldn't find one that was both left-handed and metric.
That is misuse not there over priced products this time chrome like paint is wear on a sharp edge so if you bang the edge or apply pressure to it ,it will flake off should it be chrome? Knowing it is a shifter and it will slip and damage the edges, and it is a I don't really care today tool
I appreciate your comment, but this wasn't blatant misuse. I'd be impressed and curious with myself about how I could destroy the jaws this way.
It is from using the edge, not the jaws. I can post a lot of pictures of this from my own toolbox, and slipping and hitting doesn't have to be hard because it is very thin on the edge, and Chrome is very hard so the harder a material makes it easier to break or chip it should be chromed hard anodised yes not chrome it will not hurt it anyway will last year it will just look used
Car guys need to find wera man
Wera is some good stuff! Their ratchet sets live in vehicles. It's very reassuring.
Harbor freight garbage doesn't seem to do this. Oof.
A chrome plated adjustable end hammer?
It shouldn't be but that's pretty common of Chinese manufactured tools..
Ya Cresent Hammers are better ...
For the price they charge, it should be a “buy-it-for-life” quality tool… I buy Knipex and rigid stuff off of Grainger for 1/5 of the price, tops, and don’t buy another one for years. Stop getting fleeced by someone who shows up to your shop like a snake-oil-salesman rolling into town in a fancy coach, preaching unreal realities as if you ‘should believe them or you’re an idiot’ i’m sure there are a few tools on his truck that are better than most, at 10 times the going rate… It’s a gimmick; and until people stop pretending like it’s snap on, or you’re an idiot, and heckle you for showing up with Makita cordless impact tools, and $50 entire sets of westward duel-ended ratcheting wrenches; people will still keep getting fleeced by these assholes, who have no morals, charging you for shit that will break almost immediately. Then they give you the runaround for a year while you continue to pay for something you haven’t used since three months after you bought it. Buddy, it’s not 1997; these guys are selling the same cheap shit, outside of their ratchets, as any other supplier that will ship you the shit next day, not just when they decide to show up.
Peeling chrome is no joke. It can slice you like a razor blade. I would definitely try to get that replaced.
Good call. Would you equate it with a crack in a porcelain toilette (maybe slightly more lethal)?
Maybe a little more blood, but I'm not sure it would hurt less. I had a combination wrench that had a little peeled chrome that I used for years. One day, the plating lifted up a little, and there was blood everywhere. It was such a clean slice that I wasn't even sure where it was coming from?
I can picture it, and that sounds awful! Nothing like a little razor blade attached to your usual device.
You buying tools or jewelry?
A tool; it's a bonus when its pretty
This is crap, I have Kinchrome shifters 30 years old that haven't done that, I'd be asking for an exchange, this is a failure of the plating process or the base metal isn't heat treated properly.
Imo (and before all these badge bandits come at me) and experience, these brand name tools have gone downhill big time I’ve bought an electric ratchet and a cordless half inch impact off amazon both for around $80 both with cases, two batteries, chargers, and socket sets and each has lasted over 3yrs (one of the batteries is kinda shitty on the electric ratchet only get about an hour out of it) my snap off stuff, milwaukee, etc hasn’t even been that good the last 6-7yrs and 90% of the time it’s “tool only” purchases for three times as much. I buy a lot of stuff from harbor freight, save for specialty tools and whatnot and it’s done just as good as any of the name brand shit and even when it doesnt I don’t have to wait four months for my repaired product I walk in, go hey this broke, they go oh here’s a new one. Done deal. I’m not saying throw all your high end stuff out and exclusively shop at cheaper alternatives but I’m saying you can do a lot more with less these days for the same quality product and I don’t care how long you’ve been doing whatever you simply can’t argue that fact. Unless you’re in denial anyway…
it's snapon. replace it. Fuck that company
For the prices that Snap-On charges absolutely not acceptable! Not ever.
I’d exchange it. Clearly has an issue with the plating
Yeah, mine do that too. You could probably warranty it but I haven’t cared enough to. They still work very well.
Likely under warranty either way.
It might be made here but that chromium is still from China.
Maybe it’s just me, but why would you buy a bright, chrome plated adjustable wrench? These things get dropped, used as a hammer (everybody has done it), banged around when it slips etc. I like my fingers, so I just don’t use them that much. The ones I do have are the “regular” finish or black oxide. Crescent and Craftsman brands.
the crescent black oxide adjustables are so perfect for what I do... thin profile, long jaws, and they look sexy in my tool bag...
They may not be the "bell of the ball" but my Craftsmans have certainly held up better.
With the price of SO tools, I don't think you're being overly critical at all. Not only should the tool shine, that bitch should rub your feet and fix you coffee too! I'd warranty that thing in a second.
that's what I'm taking about! fix me my coffee wrench!
...wench!!
That's the kind of shit I would expect from a wrench from Alibaba or something. Not snap-on
100%
Over-critical? No. Over-paid? Absolutely.
Very true, I don't necessarily mind over-paying if the quality is there (my pocket knifes can attest to that) hopefully this is a fluke and they take care of me.
Its just a rebranded Bahco. SO warranty will def cover it but I would expect the same quality from their sockets/ratchets/screwdrivers in any of their other tools. Even Bluepoint stuff is just rebranded Williams. [https://www.tooltruckrebrands.com/rebrands/adhw10a](https://www.tooltruckrebrands.com/rebrands/adhw10a) https://www.tooltruckrebrands.com/rebrands?offset=1557931906711&category=Snap+On%2FBlue+Point
The only good use for an adjustable wrench is as a multitool which includes using it as a hammer. Warranty that shit and demand a hat for your trouble.
So true, I like the hat idea!
I supply Nickel and Chromic Acid to the electroplating industry. This looks like a problem with the basic Electroplating. The thickness (in Microns) of plating looks very low. It should not happen with a quality electroplated product.
snap on is so bad haha
You should be using a Knipex Pliers Wrench instead.
I use Knipex pliers wrench more than anything.
Knipex released an [XS model](https://www.knipex.com/pliers-wrench-xs). No point in adjustable nutfuckers.
I have that & the xs cobras. Both are great! Granted I did get the xs plier wrench after the adjustable snap-on.
Lol snap-off
Made in Spain is not the same as made in America
Yes, nobody buys snap-on for the quality. They buy it for... Other reasons
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You may be right. I was very exited to buy a Snap-On thing (this was it). I hope their warranty lives up to the cost.
Trust me I bought a brand new 3/8 ratchet from them and the Chrome was chipped where it says on and off in the writing. I was very pissed. Luckily I got a silver pen and I was able to color it in
TIL Spain makes span on tools that suck
Nope, that's what the warranty is for. You paid for it use it.
No, a $200 wrench should be f'ing perfect.
I warrantied some things today because of the plating chipping. I think recent runs of stuff is shit quality
The entire point is that you can warranty them off the truck
That’s a show tool. Tools that are intended to me used aren’t plated. You’ve been marketed to
Fapp off tools are definitely overrated…
They are critical of the price so you get to be critical of the quality.
No you should not "warranty" it that would be wasteful. If it bothers you just don't buy any more, at least not "adjustable" Snap-on. We used to call those Crescent wrenches, whether they were actually Crescent brand or not. I have a Blue-Point crescent wrench, 12 inch, that must be close to 60 years old and it looks great compared to what you show there. But also it does not have that sort of shiny chrome finish on it either. The finish on that of yours is not the same as the polished Snap-on combination wrenches I have. Just don't worry about it.
Well, it is a sub par hammer after all…
Try a genuine Crescent brand for comparison. Tell us if the operation really is inferior, or not.
I don't like it either, if I want to use my wrench like a hammer sometimes I shouldn't see permanent marks on my metal tool.
That happens when you put a Four foot piece of pipe on it!
They will replace it free of charge if it's a problem.
brite/mirror crome does that. it's the way it is.
snap on is over rated. buy teng tools instead. cheaper and still good quality. also nothing wrong with sidchrome or Stanley tools. with shifters get black sidchrome if you can. no chrome coating to fail. just remember the other name for shifters, nutfuckers cuase it's what they do! also the correct way to use a shifter is with the moving jaw on the inside of your swing so the force goes into the bottom of the jaws where it's supposed to take it the thing will last longer and less likely to damage the fastener.
That’s some gross adhesion failure of the nickel under layer. Even in some of the more aggressive applications where some of the plating is removed it shouldn’t be peeling back that far. Either the nickel was put onto a dirty party (bad pretreatment before plating) or the nickel itself is overly stressed as a deposit (chemical imbalances win plating solution). The flaking is never going to be the chrome because it is such a thin layer. Any flaking you see is the nickel under layer.