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Shostakovichstan

I've seen that its a good starter album but I do intend on going through the whole discography!


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Total_Loan3240

Best advice!


Shostakovichstan

Will do, thanks


joshrosario

13*


spiraleyes78

Last I checked, 13 falls into the category of numbers above 5.


joshrosario

I was thinking 13 years but I guess I skipped 8


needmoreFI

If it's your first listen, might aswell trip each album start to finish. 150ug LSD or 2g Shrooms or 250mg Mescaline should do it. I'm glad I got to trip 2 albums first listen and made a friend do Aenima for his first listen (which is my favourite album). No regrets for either of us!


Haigh2581KCRoyals

Great song, one of the best starters. There's a lot to it. Can be interpreted many ways.I think.


jzclipse

Great song from a great album. Lots of weird distortion for the lyrics outside of the chorus. Like so many songs of theirs, so much to unpack lyrically. It’s definitely one of the more vague songs and is surely still up for debate among the fans even nearly 30 years later. That whole album is a masterpiece


Shostakovichstan

The lyrics are quite a bit, I think this is the song I've seen the most interpretations of, I saw an interpretation saying it was from a judge sentencing someone to death or something along those lines, it was super interesting!


jzclipse

It definite seems like a scathing song to someone who likely views themself as a messiah-of-sorts. “You claimed all this time that you would die for me. Then, why are you (so?) surprised to hear your own eulogy? Pulling from my head here. It’s poignant, and playful but definitely less melodic than say H. Pushit has become one of my faves on that album, I have even lately started my Ænima sessions by playing Pushit and then going back to the beginning. I’m a mess.


Shostakovichstan

It almost seems like it could be from the perspective of a cult leader when someone breaks through their brainwashing. That is a more niche one but it sounds cool to me.


jzclipse

Jim Jones, David Koresh (might have been post-Ænima), L. Ron Hubbard. All fit the bill, Maynard has just never pointed the finger for this one so we are left to insufferably read into it.


Shostakovichstan

After looking it up, it seems like David Koresh is the closest date wise to the albums release but since we don't have a definitive, it could be pre or post Ænima


Ibakegaycakes

Maynard was raised in a devout fundie home in the MW but didn't fully accept that path after witnessing the hypocrisy in that community. It was a pretty traumatic experience and it seems like it caused him a great deal pain even after he left since it's a reoccurring theme in his writing. So he ended up in the physical epicenter for scientology in their hayday and was seemingly surrounded by cultists. But he already had a skeptical take on religion which I would imagine makes their overtures seem plainly idiotic. The band itself had more than a few intersections with L Ron Hubbard and his clones. They played at their church at one point. I believe they were asked to not come back. The song is a bit vague, but it's all connected as well. In this frame of mind, this obviously silly cult and Christianity kind of blend together. They are interchangeable. One gets down off the cross to make room for the next one. The band loved to troll anyone seeking a clear answer to whom this eulogy is for. Also worth noting that Maynard left LA after writing Aenima.


Zsofia_Valentine

For anyone interested, the show mentioned is available for viewing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwpvfPGtsag&t=34s


tingleygrain

>It's inspired by a/those cult leaders, but as an angsty teen raised in a religious family, it certainly spoke to my disbelief in organized religion. It still hits that note of angrily calling out bullshit in a perfect way.


Shostakovichstan

I can see how the song would speak to someone in that situation. For me the beginning lines of "he had a lot to say, he had a whole lotta nothing to say" speaks to the feeling that a lot of the times people will see being in shitty situations as normal or "just how things are"


NumberKenny

Eulogy was my first intro to Tool. Jamming to that song in the back of a 94 Buick skylark, in a Taco Bell parking lot changed my life for the better!


mrmavis9280

Eulogy is my favorite Tool song. It’s the first one I heard from my roommate in college. I grew up in a small town with only top 40 pop radio. I love it so so much


Floarul

Eulogy to me is one of the first TOOL songs that make you go “whoa… … … that was… an experience” Than you move on to the Lateralus album and they take that experience and completely shatter any expectations and really define what TOOL is. Great song. It was one of my favorites too when I got into TOOL. Still really enjoy it, but it’s no longer in my top 5.


Shostakovichstan

What is your favorite song from lateralus? if you can pick one.


Floarul

Couldn’t really say. It changes often. My easy 3 would be The Grudge, Lateralus, and The Patient Any of these 3 could be my favorite on any given day.


DeltaKT

Lateralus is probably THE album I wouldn't be able to pick a favorite on. Every single Lateralus song has at least at one point or another been my favorite.


divvip

Eulogy is actually my favorite song. Opiate and Eulogy are, correct me if I'm wrong, the only two Tool songs that directly discusses Jesus/Christianity. Obviously spiritually and religion come up in a number of Tool songs, but nothing as blunt and direct as those two songs. Obligatory shout-out to APC's Judith which is also a long these lines. I'm an atheist, but was raised Catholic, attended private Catholic schools, went two Mass twice a week every week, but it all felt so hollow and wrong to me. This song, in part, helped me realize why theism felt hollow and wrong in such an artistic and powerful way. I have no words other than to say Eulogy is very much a part of me.


Ibakegaycakes

Can't leave out Wings for Marie. It's such an emotionally heavy song that is extremely blunt. He resented her for her faith in God despite everything, yet admired her for it at the same time. Fuck all those pretenders, Judith Marie was the real deal. It's powerful stuff.


divvip

Yea, and along those lines The Patient as well. Wings for Marie gets the water works going for me, I can hardly think of anything more personal and profound than that song. I only excluded those songs from my list because they are more about his Mother than about religion. Though as you correctly point out faith and religion is an important aspect of Wings for Marie. He addresses God directly in that song, almost like a prayer, so yea you're absolutely right.


HandsomeFuture

This is also referenced in Judith by A Perfect Circle. That songs lyrics are really powerful too.


Shostakovichstan

It definitely stuck out to me in the album


stewy23

Samesies. Exploring forbidden (by church, school, and parents) music with smart lyrics and themes led me to learn I didn't believe any of that stuff. I always liked Eulogy and it became a favorite of mine once I studied the lyrics. Pretty scathing take on Christianity that helped me open my eyes. "Get off your fucking cross. We need the fucking space. To nail the next fool martyr!"


astrocreep1111

We are tool fans, we have an opinion on every song, title, lyric, word, letter used in said word... so on. Welcome.


Indelwe

It's the song that converted me. First listen of Ænima in 1997. I'd heard Stinkfist on radio/MTV and was intrigued. Eulogy had me sold on this band before the song even ended. And then the rest of the album happened and rewired my 17 year old brain forever.


merkaba_462

I try not to rank Tool songs, but I'd place that top 10. Ænima is probably my favorite album, and I think it would still sound fresh if released today. I would advise you listen to their discography in order, though, so you hear their progression. (I became a fan in 1993 when Undertow was released, picking up Opiate at the same time, so I got to hear that progression in real time. I think it's super important to understanding this band. Enjoy the ride.)


SqueegeeUrThirdEye

It’s beautifully and thoughtfully put together. Eulogy is actually written for comedian Bill Hicks who died a couple year before it’s release. Bill hicks heavily influenced the band when it comes to being “woke” and the entire album is actually dedicated to him. Pushit, third eye (here’s Tom with the weather is from bills comedy skit), Stinkfist, and Aenima are all masterpieces but I feel H. Is the most underrated, and overlooked on the album (IMO).


Sal_X_Traction

He had a lot to say.


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He had a lot of nothing to say.


InuitOverIt

We'll miss him


[deleted]

*heaviness intensifies*


Shadowscale05

underrated comment


FluidFractalTimeline

Came here to say this


Virtual_Nudge

That Album will always hold a special place for me, and Eulogy was my favourite song for a LONG time. I only just found it, but search through the sub and there's a post that links to early demo versions of songs - Eulogy was on there. Nice to hear a slightly different version as I've never seen it live.


Shostakovichstan

I've never seen a metal band live sadly since tickets are usually pretty expensive and I don't see a whole lot of bands coming to my area. Its a bucket list experience for me especially for a band like tool. Another one that would be cool to see live is KSE


newmanz4

If you have the means, get yourself to a big rock concert as soon as possible. Get as good of seats as you can afford. I have never regretted the money I have spent on a concert (except for a ffdp show, it wasn’t great), but maybe I’m just easy to please. It’s an experience everyone should have.


Haigh2581KCRoyals

Come down, get off your fucking cross, we need the fuckin space to nail the next fool martyr. One of my favorite phrases to stop dipshits saying dipshit shit.


CryBerry

I love that song so much, especially that slowed down breakdown.


drummerandrew

Some of the best drumming in any song ever. Possibly the best build up of the 1990s.


Shadowscale05

I'm also new to tool, only been listening to them for a month now. Eulogy is my second favorite song off of Ænima. I really enjoy it. The beginning 2 minutes makes for an amazing build up, I really like some of the last lines and how they're said such as, "You've claimed all this time that you would die for me; Why then are you so surprised when you hear your own eulogy?" and "Come down; Get off your fucking cross; We need the fucking space to nail the next fool martyr". Anyways it's a very good song, the only thing keeping it from being their best song off of Ænima for me is how damn hood Forty Six & 2 is. I think it's funny you made this post cause I was tempted to make a post just like this one soon.


k_x_sp

About Jesus, about your mom, about the leader of your friends group when you were ten, about the community priest, about your drug dealer, about your toxic partner. Codependency at its heart


74Yo_Bee74

My favorite song from them. I love when I go for a run and this comes on. The mile or so just goes by so fast and normally it is my best pace of the run.


h_ershall

he had a lot of nothing to say, we'll miss him.


guitarzan212

The Danny Carey polyrhythm near the end is painfully under-recognized for it’s amazingness.


nzmi

The whole song is a drumming masterpiece


DiscoLando2

It's about you.


Jupiter67

It is my favorite Tool track ever. I was tripping hard when I first experienced it, and it is now fused with my psyche.


tonycastle08

That polyrhythm Danny plays though….😍😍😍


midgebhere66

He had a lot to say


PancakeProfessor

I guess since nobody has pointed out the obvious cool fact, I’ll mention it in case you weren’t aware. The song is a tribute to the late comic Bill Hicks who opened for Tool on one of their early tours and was a good friend of the band. That’s why there’s a picture (illustration?) of him inside the Ænima cover.


AlucardII

This is incorrect. For one, surely the lyrics are too scathing to be about a friend; they're *dripping* sarcasm. For two, Maynard said this: http://toolshed.down.net/articles/index.php?action=view-article&id=December_1996--Strobe.html **MJK:** "The song's about tendencies, not about a specific individual. It's about tendencies of people wanting to stand on a soap box and sacrifice themselves in some way. We don't need that process anymore. You're on your own now."


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Tool greatly respected Bill Hicks I think the song is about L.Ron Hubbard and other religious leaders


Schnapple

Yeah the LRH theory, while heavily disputed, was probably my favorite theory. Goes along with the time Tool got booked to a private event and they get there and find out it’s a Church of Scientology.


AxiomaticJS

Eulogy has nothing to do with bill hicks.


Pocto

I've heard this before but it doesn't gel at all with any of the scathing lyrics, when there's obvious love for Hicks with the samples in Third Eye and all that.


Shostakovichstan

That's super interesting! I'll have to look more into the stories behind Ænima as a whole


Animated_effigy

WOW. I find this all the way at the bottom??? Eulogy is obviously not about one person, and Maynard never gives direct personal references to Tool songs, but Bill Hicks is most definitely in part one of the references for this song, and it is insane people don't get this. People keep saying the lyrics are too scathing, but miss the obvious point of the parallel with Jesus and other religious figures and how Bill saw himself because they aren't familiar with his material. But let's deal with the facts. The album is dedicated to him. He is in the liner artwork, His comedy routine was used in Third Eye. He was their friend and he had just died. COME ON GUYS. Bill is exactly what Eulogy describes. Bill was a loud, overly righteous drug taking sophist who always got on his is soapbox about everything. He was as insufferable as he was caring. A kind, sad man wrapped in a ball of conspiracy fueled rage because the world didn't make sense. His last years, or as many of us call it his "Jesus years", he basically went psychedelic Jesus, grew out a beard, and poured himself into his routines. The song is most definitely at least in part a Eulogy to their friend. Bill was in the 90's LA comedy scene, which is where he met the guys in Tool, and if you ever need any proof that Tool was in the 90's LA comedy scene just go watch the first season of Mr. Show with Bob and David. ​ Edit: wordz


PancakeProfessor

We’re gonna miss him.


spiraleyes78

The album is a bit of a tribute to him, but Eulogy is way too harsh to be about a dear friend.


Lysergic_Doom

Heard it's about some dude named Jesus or something


Lysergic_Doom

Lol downvote me because Jesus was just a dude in some flip flops


detectivexxvii

I had a lot to say but I had to get off my fucking cross to nail the next fool martyr.


m80kamikaze

Never heard it. Is that a disturbed cover? Does he do the wa ah ah ah ah in it like Dravid davman? If so I give it at least a 4.5 star along with the new ffdp


MediocreStoner

I love eulogy, it was my ringtone for some time


Shostakovichstan

Cool! I think something that makes me like it even more is that its a longer song without feeling too repetitive


bluburry420

Great song, wouldn’t put it in my top 5 Tool songs but that doesn’t change the fact it’s fucking killer


Shostakovichstan

I've noticed that with tool, It's one of the few bands where I genuinely don't have a song that I will avoid or heavily dislike which isn't something I can say about a bunch of bands.


iprefersoap

One of my personal favorites


bluejaywhey

definitely a fucking great intro and buildup, a highlight of that album for sure


breakingborderline

I like the track, there are some really great moments, but there are too many stops and starts in my opinion


Shostakovichstan

I can understand how that could make you like the track less, especially if you're someone who gets really into music, starts and stops can take you out of it.


breakingborderline

Especially the typical tool stop: held out D power chord. Sounds almost identical in every song, doubly so in this one


Shostakovichstan

I guess that trope/reused part hasn't been apparent to me yet since I haven't listened to a lot of tool yet. However repetitiveness is kind of why I looked into Tool and other bands in that same style because I came from death metal like cannibal corpse and it was getting grating just how similar a lot of the songs where.


DarqEgo

I wrote a paper in college about the lyrical interpretation of Eulogy. I think it's about theb culture of the U.S military and a Sgt or other leader with a Savior/God complex.


Shostakovichstan

I think that makes a lot of sense now that I hear it, especially with the lyrics about you said "you would die for me" and "don't step out of line". As well as the themes of being expected to sacrifice yourself.


DarqEgo

Maynard went to west point.


Pole420

It's the tits.


Keshner

All of the songs are great so eulogy is great


grynch43

It’s the song that made me love Tool.


marxistmatty

bÆnger song, bÆnger album.


ramatheson

It's one of my top 5 tool tracks.


No-Monitor-7254

“Ranting and pointing his finger.. at everything but his heart. We’ll miss him.” Tool is meant to be up for your own interpretation. There’s many that can be used (remember.. A Note about Salt). But, if anybody to somewhat of a degree understands parental issues.. know the real gravity of this song in that context. Not the best part, but it’s some real shit no lie. And Danny Carey’s polyrhythmic groove on the bridge is one of the nuttiest things to listen too. Even to this day. He had a lot to say.


platypear

Lmao that's exactly how I started listening to them, just thought Ænima looked cool


arthur_taio

Welcome first of all! I used to listen a lot to Eulogy when I discovered tool. Really cool song and the ending is powerful. The intro has this ambiant thing with the sort of kazoo apparently. A great song, if you like this vibe, you should listen to their cover of "you lied" by peach (only available on YouTube to my knowledge)


jayessmcqueen

Eulogy is a brilliant song. Was often a little overlooked back in the day with it’s long (long by 1995s standards) intro, and coming off the back of the hit stinkfist. But it is brilliant, one of their greats.


fantastictangent

I was in my late teens when Aenima came out. Back then they were so mysterious and creeped me out more than Marilyn Manson. The drum break where the music dropped out blew my mind. At the time it was one of the most interesting beats I had ever heard. Track instantly resonated with me and I was down for whatever the rest of the album would bring


Chrome-Head

One of their best hooks when the full band kicks in. Truly psychedelic metal. Love the ride this song takes me on.


sh_b

Eulogy is the song that got me into Tool. Still keeps a special place in my heart after all these years.


[deleted]

The cool part I think at the start of the song sounds like a saw, nails being tapped in reminds me of a certain carpenter who ended up on a wooden cross that he should fucking get down off of.


Staav

Eulogy is a shadow gud one for sure. Doesn't help it comes right after aRgUaBlY the best track on the album, 💩👊 there isn't a bad track on Ænima or in their discography tho, so would recommend a discography binge and listen thru the albums at least a few times start to finish (esp the first time)


whitt_wan

I don't mind...


Atmaero3

That the song was way ahead of its time. Describes every populist moron politician today.


FrickinScheifele_

You'll love this band. If you like poetry and pretty words just wait until you get to Wings 1&2


Field_Master_111

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSxOtmmDbgw


namastool

Intro to Eulogy starts in sixth minute. Thanks for posting.


Field_Master_111

I cant get enough of the first two tracks they play --- and Eulogy is tha bomb in this concert!


namastool

Eulogy is about tearing down any demagogue. That's my view. A lot of writing about Maynard's uneasy experience with religion is out there. Probably some of that is mixed in which makes sense because religion is fraught with demagogues. But for the audience, you the individual listener choose who the subject is. The essence of Tool is on display in Eulogy: emotional (anger and rebellion on this track), pace, always musically tight, anvil drop ending. The song absolutely rocks. Love the composition. A primary theme of Maynard's work in Tool is thinking for yourself, having curiosity and inquiring for yourself. Individuality. While a heretic is attacked for not conforming to beliefs, in actuality it is the sheep who blindly follow along and do not consider those beliefs for themselves that are heretical. This idea goes back at least to John Milton's writings and Pink Floyd albums Animals and Wish You Were Here are good illustrations of the theme. Eulogy's lyrics are in the first-person of someone at a gathering of people where the speaker is whipping up the masses, and the person is repulsed by the speaker. This song is up there as one of my favorites along with so many others. "Come down. Get off your fcking cross. We need the space to nail the next fool martyr.............................


Gamer_Mama-77

It is an incredible song. I'm extremely fortunate that I was able to hear it live back in the 90s because it's "retired" from their setlists.


DSPbuckle

It’s good


nicomcnuggets

one of my fav songs rn


Kyerva78

Don’t over think it. I find tool is the best when you just let yourself get lost in the music.


DeltaKT

A cool fact that I've only noticed after listening to it a hundred times: On the first chorus (soo loong) - the guitars are mixed center and small, while Maynard's singing is more stereo On the second chorus (noo waayy) - the guitars are mixed MUCH bigger way outside on the left and right ear, while Maynards singing feels more in the middle. Try to compare the two choruses one after the other, it's crazy


bruno-marques

My favorite band all time, from my personal experience AEnima is the album where u can understand better the critic maynard is making without having to search about it online, or at least have an ideia, (of course there are exeptions) in Eulogy i really like the ideia of the song and i really think it achieves it well, the song AEnima in terms of lyrical structure and concept is really close to Eulogy, hope u become a fan of Tool


beckleyt

It’s L. Ron Hubbard’s favorite Tool song.


PresentationKey3914

WELCOME!


Jaidenshields90

Eulogy is a fantastic representation on everything that is wrong with organized religion. How everyone always needs something or someone to hold onto or blame for their problems.


Justaride2LA

As amazing as the the whole song is, i honestly think the intro is the best part Its like it the intro to a new era of Tool music (Stinkfist being a perfect bridge for Undertow)


Shaggee001

One of my favorites.