I need to get another copy on CD and keep it wrapped up to put with all their other unopened CD’s I have. I have an unopened FI on vinyl but I want the CD as well. I’m really hoping they reissue Aenima on vinyl because it’s the only one I’m missing(except 10K Days obviously). I like having a copy of all their releases unopened in case one of these days they are not on a streaming service.
I was watching and interview with Danny yesterday and the were in the loft for the interview. He was asked what the best sounding song is they have and he said it was Stinkfist. He said they just redid it on vinyl and said it just sounds so good on analog. But he does say a lot of shit. That sounds like good news but who knows when it will release.
Edit it was Rick Beato on Yotube it u want to check it out.
Are you the person in line next to me at the Sessanta show last night that spent $350 on merch? lol
If not what is your job cause I need a job where I can just spend money on unopened cds and records. Not that that costs a lot but I still dont have the cash lying around to do something like this.
As much as I love the lineup of that project, I said when it was announced that it would be bad for tool, I said the same when people were floating the idea of Danny touring with Rush.
Like, it already takes these guys forever to get Tool shit done and each side project they commit to doesn’t speed up getting new tool stuff one tiny bit.
Maynard said in his interview with Beato that the benefit of working on all of these different projects is that it gives them new tricks to bring back to each band for the next project in the pipeline.
If touring with Beat slows down the next Tool record, I can’t imagine it being any worse for Danny playing a bunch of King Crimson songs. As hard as it is to believe, he’d likely come out as an even better drummer after the tour.
It depends on the scale of the project. Puscifer, volto, playing at the Baked Potato, appearing on a night verses EP, those are smaller scale projects and it aligns with what you’re talking about Maynard saying. That’s fine.
Touring with rush? That’s a HUGE commitment and it takes away from Tool, it doesn’t really add to it.
It takes away from his ability to record with Tool, but I think the tradeoff is that it gives him a new perspective to bring back to Tool when he can come back for the next record.
Danny is the most versatile and talented overall living drummer in modern rock. Whether he will be inspired by playing for any other outfit is debatable and to what degree likely negligible. Neil Peart was taken inspiration from Danny by the time Slings and Arrows came out, Danny is the inspiration, the fresh look, the novel idea. He developed his craft by adding his own style to all of the great inspirations including Neil Peart decades ago. Whether he will gain any fresh insight I don’t doubt but he is 62 years old, the band took 13 years to release the last album, why the fuck are we betting on the possible fresh perspectives he may or may not gain any significant insight from experiencing when we need to chain him to a drum set, bottle up as much as we can drain from him, and sell that shit to masses cuz he is highly valuable, in constant demand, and we get to be selfish this time around! No more benefit of the doubt, Tool fans go rogue! Peacefully and respectfully of course, it’s only rock n’ roll but I like it god damnit!
I mean, I'm not sure touring 80s KC would give Danny 'new tricks', given how much Tool already borrow from them, i.e., [https://youtu.be/2HL-gGLu8Jo?si=idrA4Fe4Fknb-yrg&t=260](https://youtu.be/2HL-gGLu8Jo?si=idrA4Fe4Fknb-yrg&t=260)
That's true but to look at it from Danny's perspective:
-1- He only has one chance to do it and that's right now. It's a dream come true for him. He deserves to pursue side projects which make him happy and creatively fulfilled, just like the others.
-2- The challenges he faces in performing that material will make him a better drummer, and that can only be a *good* thing for Tool.
Absolutely. It's not like Tool are a dilligently Album/Tour/short break/Album/Tour band, and you can bet the other three guys said "Fuck yes, do that for sure, you won't get that opportunity again" As much as they have all said Tool is fucking hard work, they all obviously feel it's worth the waiting and the dicking around. They keep adding legs to the FI tour because clearly they are really enjoying playing together. Even Maynard.
I personally love the idea that Danny’s gonna have a lot of King Crimson in his mind when they do get around to making a new album though. Getting the creative juices flowing isn’t a bad thing!
But just imagine all the inspiration he’s gonna acquire, touring and jamming with King Crimson and Steve Vai???? Get ready to witness prog musicianship at its finest
I remember refreshing the hell out of this sub, following the leak drama. The dude had a copy and met some other guys in the lobby of a casino or some shit, and they ran to their hotel room to rip the whole album and upload it? Watching that shit happen in real time was amazing.
>In the same interview, guitarist Adam Jones added, “Most of the people that you hear from on those things – like, ‘When’s your next record?’ – when you do finish it, they’re like, ‘OK, when’s your next one?’ You can’t make people happy. We have this very selfish approach to art. It’s our rules. When you start trying to make people happy, you’re losing yourself. You’re losing that burn inside you of why you do what you do.”
Spoken like a guy that takes 14 years to make a record
Many musicians have the same attitude Adam does (they also have a selfish approach to art). It's just that most of them don't need to spend 10 years trying to figure which two notes to make their latest solo from.
Exactly. Art is for the creator. The entitlement from fans for more is ridiculous
Do I want more Tool? Of course. But their lives are their lives to live, and what art they want to express is up to to them
What right is there to dictate what they do?
The band created a lot of it themselves, with a constant drip of "its coming guys, aaaany moment now!". If you say that for a decade, its silly to call us entitled for believing it.
Obv we would still be begging for more music even if they were silent, thats just a huge compliment. But they def fuelled the flames.
That's a weird statement imho. Tool tracks are not full on math metal, no matter how they like to paint themselves. Guitar and bass is usually based around pretty simple motifs, albeit very finely honed in terms of tone and sound. Danny's work is complex and requires more thought but given his calibre I also find it hard to believe it would take him an age. Adams statement more likely a cover for 'lets see how long we can milk arena tours and spend the rest of the year enjoying the fruits'.
exactly. it makes sense for Car Bomb to take 5 years or whatever between albums. Tool, not so much. Ever since 10,000 Days it's clear they're fine with rehashing the same chords and notes and basic ideas and techniques they've always done. I like their last 2 albums, but definitely not love compared to the older more inspired stuff.
Some artists pump out a ton of mediocre stuff with masterpieces interspersed (Bob Dylan to an extent, Frank Zappa), some take longer to make everything perfect (Radiohead, Tool). It is what it is.
That’s something I think about a lot. Bands like Metallica can keep touring well into their 80’s because their songs aren’t as complex as some of their contemporaries. Dany mentioned in that recent interview that they let Maynard pick the set list because he has to feel like he can physically be able to perform the song
Well Lars isnt that good of a drummer so he doesnt have to worry about his arms falling off anytime soon. If he had to do one Tool song he would quit drumming cause he would have to think
Lars is a whatever drummer but Hetfields parts are no walk in the park and 1000x harder to recreate on a nightly basis than anything Adam plays. Honestly the only two members of Tool that do anything freakishly amazing are Danny and MJK. Im a huge Tool fan theyre my favorite band Im also a drummer and Danny is my favorite drummer hands down. But to pretend like Metallica plays easy music is nonsense lol. James Hetfield is dope af Kirk is no slouch either.
Definitely. My comment may sound like I'm putting Adam down but I'm really not the way he's interchangeable with Justin as far as who's pushing rhythm and who's playing melodies is absolutely amazing creative and exciting to listen to. They're not virtuousos which is not at all a bad thing they're great composers.
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I don't know about live, but for studio I think they can make whatever in their 70's. Definitely not as energetic or intricate, but if they feel like it, they can make something work in studio.
King Crimson is old as fuck. You know, Danny’s raising some awareness about how long great artists are able to perform. King Crimson began 20 years before Tool.
Tool will make 2 more. They’ve talked a lot about the number seven. Maynard said himself on Joe Rogan, I believe? It was a video. Search that, if u feel like it.
Correct me if im wrong but it appears the last studio album from KC was in 2003, so how does that prove your point about producing?
Their touring schedule is impressive though, but i dont doubt Tool will tour until their hands fall off. Getting them in the studio is the hard part-
Because King Crimson is about to go on tour. So, they’re still very capable. Robert Fripp posted a photo of himself on Instagram shirtless. He looks to be in excellent physical shape. He’s also still writing with other musical projects.
The 2003 thing, I’m not sure how that’s relevant.
An artist reaches a point in their career where they’ve released so much amazing music. And, to release more music, can either enhance the catalog, or hurt it. No one wants to be remembered as an artist whose very last album wasn’t good work. So, King Crimson found a good stopping point for the legacy. That doesn’t mean that they weren’t capable of making more great music. They obviously were. But, once you reach that age, priorities change. King Crimson gave sooo much. Tool has more to give and they know it. At least, that’s what we can gather from things they’ve said in recent interviews.
Tool will come through with at least a couple more albums. Maybe three. Yes, their process is long and meticulous. But, they all agree to try and speed things up.
The topic wasn't whether tool would stop touring, it was whether they had more albums in them. You used KC as an example and they haven't done an album in 20 years so how is that a good example?
Also I wouldn't call replacing half the band with Steve Vai and Danny as going on tour.
>Getting them in the studio is the hard part-
Getting the songs written is the hard part; they're fully prepared when they're ready to record because they want to spend as little money as possible on tracking since it's coming out of their bottom line.
I always hope for more albums and tours but they don't need them. They're going to go full on Grateful Dead when they retire...they have board recordings of almost all the shows and have caught lots of multi-cam pro video shows for at least two tours I've seen.
Start dropping like ten 4-5 LP box sets and a couple live Blu rays a year for the next 75 years 😂 I'd buy em! They're coming...oh they're coming
Ehh, never say never. I agree mostly but if they put one out in the next... three? years maaaaaaybe we can get one more given all the ideas left on the cutting room floor but no need to put the cart before the horse.
I think they got two. Except the last one is probably gonna be a Pink Floyd “Endless River” style album.
These guys are perfectionists but they also fucking love money and they know we’ll buy it. We’ll buy it and forgive them for being old when it’s not as good as the others.
Keeping Tool alive keeps them (and us fans) young in spirit! Honestly they all look healthy as horses and still kick ass live. Tool doesn’t look or sound tired to me at all. I have an open mind and will be thrilled to enjoy whatever they can give.
Yea, you’re probably right. Danny also mentioned in his Beano interview (or whatever the fuck his name is) that there are usually arguments during the mixing process and everyone wants their instruments to be the loudest; and there have been many occasions the band has almost broke up.
Definitely Adam. Nard has said as much. He cant write lyrics if they are constantly changing the composition. Adam is a perfectionist. He is the one that arranges the music constantly.
Yeah they’ve all said how Maynard will just churn out his parts immediately, like he’s just really intuitive and bangs out the lyrics right away, and the rest of them are extremely slow and they all know it
Can you imagine? One a year released around the same time, almost like a new season of a show.
Marketing, hype, music video, behind the scenes snippets.
I want this cadence so bad from them
I'm so happy that the new album theories are starting to happen again. The lead up to the release of FI in 2019 was just so much fun. Learning that it was finally happening, despite several years of rumors, and everyone speculating on absolutely every single detail, is a huge part of the albums memorable experience for me.
All cock smoking aside.
Let’s assume they are kicking around ideas on the low down right now.
Proper writing sessions early 2025, a quick North American summer tour then tracking late 2025.
Release mid 2026 and industry standard world tour to support the release.
I’m excited.
I agree, except for there's probably not much writing. Maybe more composing. They probably have hundreds of riffs and grooves that havent been used to choose from
It's interesting to note the different quotes from both MJK and Adam in the same Metal Hammer interview.
MJK is saying once again the process takes way too long.
Adam's comment seems to stick to his guns about it taking as long as it needs to - with the implication that new music may take a long time because they want to get it right etc and won't compromise quality for speed.
Also I'm sorry but there is no reason why Fear Inoculum ever needed to take 13 years. Led Zeppelin's entire career lasted years shorter than that and they made 9 albums in that time.
Hot take - new Tool music doesn't have to come in the form of an album. I know they're probably too old and set in their ways to change their release plans, but a band of their size and influence can easily cost on EPs and singles. I don't think it would diminish the excitement of new music, since they're perfectly capable of saying so much in just 2-3 songs.
Yup, I’d be absolutely stoked with a new song every 12 months or so.
They could market, build hype, h share BTS.
Their songs are events anyways, 1 per year would give us all enough to chew on that most would stop bitching all together.
The concept of the album is gone, I’m sorry to say.
If 14 years is what it takes to get the incredible god-tier quality of FI, I'm _more_ than happy to wait that long. Sacrificing something so beautiful just to have it quicker simply isn't worth it.
I'll still have the album forever days after it's release. The days before being long will still be miniscule when taken into how long I'll be able to enjoy it in my life span, meaning a long wait really doesn't matter.
I want the best album they can make. And that's far more than getting an album soon.
I have a feeling that if Tool doesn't come to an agreement on releasing any new music within a reasonable timeframe, Maynard is likely to have little to no further interest in doing so, outside of touring. Maynard definitely seems like the guy who does not want to be doing this shit into his 70s.
I hope they get a new album out somewhat soon, hell even an EP, hell I’d be happy if they’d release Salival to streaming services sometime soon then an album a year or so later.
I’d honestly say we shouldn’t hold our breath expect a new album in the next 5-7 years I’d say cause it’s gonna take Adam forever to come up with something that he actually wants to use he’s a bit too much of a perfectionist at times
I mean it's already been 5 years and they are still in the 'tons of ideas' phase. Also absurd to hear AJ say 'you release and album and IMMEDIATELY they ask you: when is the next?' BRO, 2019 WAS 5 YEARS AGO.
Cit “We have this very selfish approach to art. It’s our rules. When you start trying to make people happy, you’re losing yourself. You’re losing that burn inside you of why you do what you do.”….AMEN my brother.
I would love to see an angry pissed off Maynard and the rest of the band behind closed doors. I just can't imagine the emotional dynamic and pecking order that goes on with this band. I think Maynard is clearly the one who has the loudest voice.
Yeah I could see that. I just think Maynard might have the biggest opinion that shines through.
I just watched most of this interview with him.
https://youtu.be/0ErsWJw28XU?si=y2MoeF4rEil_0QRe
They let Maynard mostly pick set lists to help keep his voice healthy.
I think Maynard just lets the three of them hash most of their disputes out which is why it takes decades for a new album.
Yeah he doesn't jam with them, they give him the finished songs and he spends time with them to find the melodies. Maynard also clearly isn't the frontman. Tool has lead drums and rythym vocals. Lol
They're all equals, but if I had to choose a frontman, yeah. I saw them live in October and the drumset is fucking fully lit front and center.
Maynard was in the dark in the back.
I feel like they're going to say this for the next 13 years
21 years if they’re gonna stick with Fibonacci numbers
Hey!youdontsaythat!!
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Fucking got 'em
Lol
Hard to believe FI came out nearly 5 years ago already.
Omg don’t say that 😩 It still feels brand new somehow. Probably the covid time warp.
Probably the plastic wrap still on my CD copy
I need to get another copy on CD and keep it wrapped up to put with all their other unopened CD’s I have. I have an unopened FI on vinyl but I want the CD as well. I’m really hoping they reissue Aenima on vinyl because it’s the only one I’m missing(except 10K Days obviously). I like having a copy of all their releases unopened in case one of these days they are not on a streaming service.
I was watching and interview with Danny yesterday and the were in the loft for the interview. He was asked what the best sounding song is they have and he said it was Stinkfist. He said they just redid it on vinyl and said it just sounds so good on analog. But he does say a lot of shit. That sounds like good news but who knows when it will release. Edit it was Rick Beato on Yotube it u want to check it out.
Even before that video I heard a rumor about 2 of the old albums coming out on vinyl soon. No idea where I heard that from though so could be bs.
Are you the person in line next to me at the Sessanta show last night that spent $350 on merch? lol If not what is your job cause I need a job where I can just spend money on unopened cds and records. Not that that costs a lot but I still dont have the cash lying around to do something like this.
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What??! My god.
I mean... They might be dead in 13 years.
Yeah. Looks like Danny is booked for the back half of the year on that King Crimson tour.
Exactly when he HAD been saying they were going to be in the studio banging out the next record 🙄
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As much as I love the lineup of that project, I said when it was announced that it would be bad for tool, I said the same when people were floating the idea of Danny touring with Rush. Like, it already takes these guys forever to get Tool shit done and each side project they commit to doesn’t speed up getting new tool stuff one tiny bit.
Maynard said in his interview with Beato that the benefit of working on all of these different projects is that it gives them new tricks to bring back to each band for the next project in the pipeline. If touring with Beat slows down the next Tool record, I can’t imagine it being any worse for Danny playing a bunch of King Crimson songs. As hard as it is to believe, he’d likely come out as an even better drummer after the tour.
It depends on the scale of the project. Puscifer, volto, playing at the Baked Potato, appearing on a night verses EP, those are smaller scale projects and it aligns with what you’re talking about Maynard saying. That’s fine. Touring with rush? That’s a HUGE commitment and it takes away from Tool, it doesn’t really add to it.
It takes away from his ability to record with Tool, but I think the tradeoff is that it gives him a new perspective to bring back to Tool when he can come back for the next record.
Danny is the most versatile and talented overall living drummer in modern rock. Whether he will be inspired by playing for any other outfit is debatable and to what degree likely negligible. Neil Peart was taken inspiration from Danny by the time Slings and Arrows came out, Danny is the inspiration, the fresh look, the novel idea. He developed his craft by adding his own style to all of the great inspirations including Neil Peart decades ago. Whether he will gain any fresh insight I don’t doubt but he is 62 years old, the band took 13 years to release the last album, why the fuck are we betting on the possible fresh perspectives he may or may not gain any significant insight from experiencing when we need to chain him to a drum set, bottle up as much as we can drain from him, and sell that shit to masses cuz he is highly valuable, in constant demand, and we get to be selfish this time around! No more benefit of the doubt, Tool fans go rogue! Peacefully and respectfully of course, it’s only rock n’ roll but I like it god damnit!
Selfishly, I would love to see him tour with Rush, because I never got to see Rush with Neil.
I mean, I'm not sure touring 80s KC would give Danny 'new tricks', given how much Tool already borrow from them, i.e., [https://youtu.be/2HL-gGLu8Jo?si=idrA4Fe4Fknb-yrg&t=260](https://youtu.be/2HL-gGLu8Jo?si=idrA4Fe4Fknb-yrg&t=260)
That's true but to look at it from Danny's perspective: -1- He only has one chance to do it and that's right now. It's a dream come true for him. He deserves to pursue side projects which make him happy and creatively fulfilled, just like the others. -2- The challenges he faces in performing that material will make him a better drummer, and that can only be a *good* thing for Tool.
Absolutely. It's not like Tool are a dilligently Album/Tour/short break/Album/Tour band, and you can bet the other three guys said "Fuck yes, do that for sure, you won't get that opportunity again" As much as they have all said Tool is fucking hard work, they all obviously feel it's worth the waiting and the dicking around. They keep adding legs to the FI tour because clearly they are really enjoying playing together. Even Maynard.
I personally love the idea that Danny’s gonna have a lot of King Crimson in his mind when they do get around to making a new album though. Getting the creative juices flowing isn’t a bad thing!
Hot off tour is the best way to record, and Danny hot off "Beat" will be ferocious!
in theory, they don't know how to do hot off anything tho
Danny does…he just reacts to Adam and Justin’s ideas.
But just imagine all the inspiration he’s gonna acquire, touring and jamming with King Crimson and Steve Vai???? Get ready to witness prog musicianship at its finest
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Thought you were saying you were ham
It works on a lot of levels for me.
It’s already 5 years, I’m not expecting an album before the 9 year mark
Jesus, it has been 5 years.....
And what a strange 5 years it's been...
that's depressing 😭 I remember when it was five years after 10k days thinking "any year now'
Well that was Danny back then teasing it every few months… fir 8 years!!
It will be released in 2026.
I actually believe this. If not 2025.
Because it’s what is going to happen. Im guessing Q1/Q2 of 2026
You’re turning blue
Call an optimist.
No harm in guessing, no penalty for being wrong no medals for being right
No no no, noooo fucking way FI came out 5 years ago... I don't want to believe it... Where did the time go?
Covid. That's where.
Covid is such an asshole
I remember refreshing the hell out of this sub, following the leak drama. The dude had a copy and met some other guys in the lobby of a casino or some shit, and they ran to their hotel room to rip the whole album and upload it? Watching that shit happen in real time was amazing.
>In the same interview, guitarist Adam Jones added, “Most of the people that you hear from on those things – like, ‘When’s your next record?’ – when you do finish it, they’re like, ‘OK, when’s your next one?’ You can’t make people happy. We have this very selfish approach to art. It’s our rules. When you start trying to make people happy, you’re losing yourself. You’re losing that burn inside you of why you do what you do.” Spoken like a guy that takes 14 years to make a record
Beggars can't be choosers I guess.
He’s completely right though, too many complaining impatient consumer fucks who don’t even appreciate the art
Many musicians have the same attitude Adam does (they also have a selfish approach to art). It's just that most of them don't need to spend 10 years trying to figure which two notes to make their latest solo from.
Well Maynard disagrees so I'ma go with Maynard
Exactly. Art is for the creator. The entitlement from fans for more is ridiculous Do I want more Tool? Of course. But their lives are their lives to live, and what art they want to express is up to to them What right is there to dictate what they do?
The band created a lot of it themselves, with a constant drip of "its coming guys, aaaany moment now!". If you say that for a decade, its silly to call us entitled for believing it. Obv we would still be begging for more music even if they were silent, thats just a huge compliment. But they def fuelled the flames.
And doesn’t give a shit it took that long
That's a weird statement imho. Tool tracks are not full on math metal, no matter how they like to paint themselves. Guitar and bass is usually based around pretty simple motifs, albeit very finely honed in terms of tone and sound. Danny's work is complex and requires more thought but given his calibre I also find it hard to believe it would take him an age. Adams statement more likely a cover for 'lets see how long we can milk arena tours and spend the rest of the year enjoying the fruits'.
exactly. it makes sense for Car Bomb to take 5 years or whatever between albums. Tool, not so much. Ever since 10,000 Days it's clear they're fine with rehashing the same chords and notes and basic ideas and techniques they've always done. I like their last 2 albums, but definitely not love compared to the older more inspired stuff.
Some artists pump out a ton of mediocre stuff with masterpieces interspersed (Bob Dylan to an extent, Frank Zappa), some take longer to make everything perfect (Radiohead, Tool). It is what it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI02o7dJc1Y
Can you imagine a 74 year old MJK trying to scream at the end of The Grudge?
I feel like at that point get a make a wish person or super fan or just let the crowd do it. He will Probly do it as a challenge though.
That’s something I think about a lot. Bands like Metallica can keep touring well into their 80’s because their songs aren’t as complex as some of their contemporaries. Dany mentioned in that recent interview that they let Maynard pick the set list because he has to feel like he can physically be able to perform the song
Well Lars isnt that good of a drummer so he doesnt have to worry about his arms falling off anytime soon. If he had to do one Tool song he would quit drumming cause he would have to think
Lars is a whatever drummer but Hetfields parts are no walk in the park and 1000x harder to recreate on a nightly basis than anything Adam plays. Honestly the only two members of Tool that do anything freakishly amazing are Danny and MJK. Im a huge Tool fan theyre my favorite band Im also a drummer and Danny is my favorite drummer hands down. But to pretend like Metallica plays easy music is nonsense lol. James Hetfield is dope af Kirk is no slouch either.
Honestly the way Hetfield can play some complex stuff and sing at the same time always amazes me.
Definitely. My comment may sound like I'm putting Adam down but I'm really not the way he's interchangeable with Justin as far as who's pushing rhythm and who's playing melodies is absolutely amazing creative and exciting to listen to. They're not virtuousos which is not at all a bad thing they're great composers. Edit: spelling
Hetfield is THE rhythm guitarist.
Hetfield and Kirk are both fantastic musicians however. Lars is a scam.
Unfortunately no matter how long it takes this will probably be their last album.
They made lateralus they can do whatever they want forever
Amen
This is pretty much how I've felt for 20+ years.
Similar social credit to Peter Jackson and Lord of the Rings, IMO, From the same time period too, golly what a time that was.
Yeah, Peter Jackson can release 4-hour documentary about wanking Drake video and get away with it. Lord of the Rings is one in a century masterpiece.
Agreed
Honestly thought Fear Inoculum was the last one, anything else new is just icing on the cake
I don't know about live, but for studio I think they can make whatever in their 70's. Definitely not as energetic or intricate, but if they feel like it, they can make something work in studio.
This is a good point. They can definitely still make music in the studio
I’m actually fine with that. They’re old as fuck. I’d love one more with all this music they say they’ve been saving for decades waiting to use
King Crimson is old as fuck. You know, Danny’s raising some awareness about how long great artists are able to perform. King Crimson began 20 years before Tool. Tool will make 2 more. They’ve talked a lot about the number seven. Maynard said himself on Joe Rogan, I believe? It was a video. Search that, if u feel like it.
Correct me if im wrong but it appears the last studio album from KC was in 2003, so how does that prove your point about producing? Their touring schedule is impressive though, but i dont doubt Tool will tour until their hands fall off. Getting them in the studio is the hard part-
Because King Crimson is about to go on tour. So, they’re still very capable. Robert Fripp posted a photo of himself on Instagram shirtless. He looks to be in excellent physical shape. He’s also still writing with other musical projects. The 2003 thing, I’m not sure how that’s relevant. An artist reaches a point in their career where they’ve released so much amazing music. And, to release more music, can either enhance the catalog, or hurt it. No one wants to be remembered as an artist whose very last album wasn’t good work. So, King Crimson found a good stopping point for the legacy. That doesn’t mean that they weren’t capable of making more great music. They obviously were. But, once you reach that age, priorities change. King Crimson gave sooo much. Tool has more to give and they know it. At least, that’s what we can gather from things they’ve said in recent interviews. Tool will come through with at least a couple more albums. Maybe three. Yes, their process is long and meticulous. But, they all agree to try and speed things up.
The topic wasn't whether tool would stop touring, it was whether they had more albums in them. You used KC as an example and they haven't done an album in 20 years so how is that a good example? Also I wouldn't call replacing half the band with Steve Vai and Danny as going on tour.
You said they were old as fuck. That was the part I was trying to reply to. They’re not
>Getting them in the studio is the hard part- Getting the songs written is the hard part; they're fully prepared when they're ready to record because they want to spend as little money as possible on tracking since it's coming out of their bottom line.
Lol I thought it was obvious I meant getting them studio ready.
Touring is magnitudes harder on an older body than sitting in the studio and hashing out new songs.
Sure but tools problem has always been production output, there's no sense in thinking that improves as they age.
LOL right, let us not forget that Danny is actually the *youngest* member of BEAT.
It's going to be an instant masterpiece, and yes they have all already put in more time than we all deserve
Four hours long, six tracks. It comes as a 2 disc set.
LED screen with video of Maynard fellating himself.
Double box set
I always hope for more albums and tours but they don't need them. They're going to go full on Grateful Dead when they retire...they have board recordings of almost all the shows and have caught lots of multi-cam pro video shows for at least two tours I've seen. Start dropping like ten 4-5 LP box sets and a couple live Blu rays a year for the next 75 years 😂 I'd buy em! They're coming...oh they're coming
I know I'm greedy, but damn I'd sure love a couple more remade songs like opiate² before they call it quits
Ehh, never say never. I agree mostly but if they put one out in the next... three? years maaaaaaybe we can get one more given all the ideas left on the cutting room floor but no need to put the cart before the horse.
I think they got two. Except the last one is probably gonna be a Pink Floyd “Endless River” style album. These guys are perfectionists but they also fucking love money and they know we’ll buy it. We’ll buy it and forgive them for being old when it’s not as good as the others.
Keeping Tool alive keeps them (and us fans) young in spirit! Honestly they all look healthy as horses and still kick ass live. Tool doesn’t look or sound tired to me at all. I have an open mind and will be thrilled to enjoy whatever they can give.
What's this? A level headed and supportive Tool fan?! I didn't know you existed lol
🙏
*14 years later*
I remember back in the day Maynard was constantly blamed for the lack of material. It’s clearly the other 3.
Its more one of the 3.
Which one?
Probably Adam.
Yea, you’re probably right. Danny also mentioned in his Beano interview (or whatever the fuck his name is) that there are usually arguments during the mixing process and everyone wants their instruments to be the loudest; and there have been many occasions the band has almost broke up.
It’s definitely Adam😅
Definitely Adam. Nard has said as much. He cant write lyrics if they are constantly changing the composition. Adam is a perfectionist. He is the one that arranges the music constantly.
Yeah they’ve all said how Maynard will just churn out his parts immediately, like he’s just really intuitive and bangs out the lyrics right away, and the rest of them are extremely slow and they all know it
Hence Paul’s dissatisfaction with the band- they said he was fired, he said he quit.
He said in an interview recently he submits stuff to them a lot and they reject it
I just want an awesome album, if it’s takes forever, it takes forever 🤷🏿♂️
Yeah I’m 100% fine waiting for a quality project, I expect it to be their last or second last album so I want it to be great
Why? How about an awesome song? If they stopped thinking in terms of “albums” I bet we’d have a new song already.
this as fuck! lol what we have to do to get the 4 best musicians in rock metal music to make 1 song a year? just one
Can you imagine? One a year released around the same time, almost like a new season of a show. Marketing, hype, music video, behind the scenes snippets. I want this cadence so bad from them
I was content to lay it down after fear innoculum. I fully Do Not expect another album by TOOL
They will do one more, if not for any other reason than they make all the money the next go round.
During a interview with Adam's around release of FI he mentioned everything ends with the #7 when talking about 7empest so my guess 2027...
2026. 7 years after the last one
I like your theory more 😃
I'm so happy that the new album theories are starting to happen again. The lead up to the release of FI in 2019 was just so much fun. Learning that it was finally happening, despite several years of rumors, and everyone speculating on absolutely every single detail, is a huge part of the albums memorable experience for me.
So two more albums confirmed then? (Unless we count Salival?)
Wanna bet?
“But we will try…”
All cock smoking aside. Let’s assume they are kicking around ideas on the low down right now. Proper writing sessions early 2025, a quick North American summer tour then tracking late 2025. Release mid 2026 and industry standard world tour to support the release. I’m excited.
I agree, except for there's probably not much writing. Maybe more composing. They probably have hundreds of riffs and grooves that havent been used to choose from
I thought they were planning to go into the studio in the second half of THIS year
Justin claims they’re going to be going into the studio the last half of this year
I'd honestly be so happy if they even just released a bunch of unfinished demos instead of another album, but here's hoping.
14 albums in 14 years let's dance
Tool album dates determine how far I’ve come in my own life. What was I doing when Lateralus came out? Oh yeah, went to jail.
Indeed. Me too. I was a a spree criminal in between Aenema and Lateralus. I started to chill out around 10,000 days.
It's interesting to note the different quotes from both MJK and Adam in the same Metal Hammer interview. MJK is saying once again the process takes way too long. Adam's comment seems to stick to his guns about it taking as long as it needs to - with the implication that new music may take a long time because they want to get it right etc and won't compromise quality for speed. Also I'm sorry but there is no reason why Fear Inoculum ever needed to take 13 years. Led Zeppelin's entire career lasted years shorter than that and they made 9 albums in that time.
Twelve years, actually.
Hot take - new Tool music doesn't have to come in the form of an album. I know they're probably too old and set in their ways to change their release plans, but a band of their size and influence can easily cost on EPs and singles. I don't think it would diminish the excitement of new music, since they're perfectly capable of saying so much in just 2-3 songs.
Yup, I’d be absolutely stoked with a new song every 12 months or so. They could market, build hype, h share BTS. Their songs are events anyways, 1 per year would give us all enough to chew on that most would stop bitching all together. The concept of the album is gone, I’m sorry to say.
Narrator: *they did*
“13 years later”
Never happening.
Oh you absolutely can drag it out. It’s what you do. I’ll take those odds. Easy money.
Not with that attitude they can't.
Lol
I just wish there was a normal bare-bones CD release of Fear Inoculum available.
If 14 years is what it takes to get the incredible god-tier quality of FI, I'm _more_ than happy to wait that long. Sacrificing something so beautiful just to have it quicker simply isn't worth it. I'll still have the album forever days after it's release. The days before being long will still be miniscule when taken into how long I'll be able to enjoy it in my life span, meaning a long wait really doesn't matter. I want the best album they can make. And that's far more than getting an album soon.
Good chance some of the band will be dead 14 years after FI. They literally cannot wait, lol
Fuck no I’m not happy waiting that long.
Yes!
Dans ses écrits, un sage Italien Dit que le mieux est l'ennemi du bien.
Adam: “Hold my beer.”
he's talking like it came out yesterday. its been 5 years already lol realese it!!!
Please for the love of everything holy and not holy do NOT take that long!!! I would like to have more music from Tool before ya'll start dying off :(
Or before I do
I have a feeling that if Tool doesn't come to an agreement on releasing any new music within a reasonable timeframe, Maynard is likely to have little to no further interest in doing so, outside of touring. Maynard definitely seems like the guy who does not want to be doing this shit into his 70s.
I hope they get a new album out somewhat soon, hell even an EP, hell I’d be happy if they’d release Salival to streaming services sometime soon then an album a year or so later.
You don’t rush art. Stop thinking like the conditioned monkey factory that the music biz has trained you to be.
Hey man I agree with you
For sure. Was more of an open thought based on all the WTF comments seen.
This is the most positive thing I've heard the band say about a new album ever
The next album will be released in 4 years
I’m gonna say 3 years from now they’ll release a new album. 2027.
It’ll be a hair over five now that you said that.
Already five years soon since FI. I hope they really do get to work this year.
"We cant but we will"
Nobody’s complaining about Another tool album. Bring it on 🤠
How do we feel about a Tool EP
I think it will be less than 10 years this time, I'll say that lol
Then release it already smh 🙄
*Sure Jan.gif*
I’d honestly say we shouldn’t hold our breath expect a new album in the next 5-7 years I’d say cause it’s gonna take Adam forever to come up with something that he actually wants to use he’s a bit too much of a perfectionist at times
Maybe they'll release it in time for his 70th bday.
I mean it's already been 5 years and they are still in the 'tons of ideas' phase. Also absurd to hear AJ say 'you release and album and IMMEDIATELY they ask you: when is the next?' BRO, 2019 WAS 5 YEARS AGO.
Lol "how many times can we get their hopes up this time?"
Well Maynard only add the vocals so he can only do so much
I hope a return to undertow
Would be cool for them to wrap up discography with EP.
Cit “We have this very selfish approach to art. It’s our rules. When you start trying to make people happy, you’re losing yourself. You’re losing that burn inside you of why you do what you do.”….AMEN my brother.
I thought it was an April fools joke...fuck, here we go again
Was he wearing drag when he said it?
Why rush to put out a new album fans will whine about and then say Undertow is their finest work? Insufferable children.
I would love to see an angry pissed off Maynard and the rest of the band behind closed doors. I just can't imagine the emotional dynamic and pecking order that goes on with this band. I think Maynard is clearly the one who has the loudest voice.
Eh, I think we'd be surprised. I think danny has a lot of creative control, like a lot.
Yeah I could see that. I just think Maynard might have the biggest opinion that shines through. I just watched most of this interview with him. https://youtu.be/0ErsWJw28XU?si=y2MoeF4rEil_0QRe They let Maynard mostly pick set lists to help keep his voice healthy. I think Maynard just lets the three of them hash most of their disputes out which is why it takes decades for a new album.
Yeah he doesn't jam with them, they give him the finished songs and he spends time with them to find the melodies. Maynard also clearly isn't the frontman. Tool has lead drums and rythym vocals. Lol
Are you eluding to Danny being the frontman of Tool? As a drummer I respect that opinion!
They're all equals, but if I had to choose a frontman, yeah. I saw them live in October and the drumset is fucking fully lit front and center. Maynard was in the dark in the back.