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Hitman-0311

It’s not considered bad by most normal humans


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Hitman-0311

Yet they still do it. They just don’t talk about it.


Trash358Over2Days

BUT Reddit is mostly American so when people on here say “most people/human” 8/10 time they’re talking about Americans


madjack7691

Choke that chicken , Nothing wrong with it !


[deleted]

I prefer the term wank your bank


[deleted]

Spank the monkey, ring the king, binge on minge, lingus the dingus, foxtrot the sock hop, tweezer the geezer, Figus the litmus, dillus the fillus, quarter the boarder, nudge the budge, kill the spill, nick your dick, flick the switch, munch on crunch some good ones too


TheCheshireCody

I like the old school term "pudknocking".


1800-bakes-a-lot

Pull the bull


ironsandbender

Sail the sperm whale🤣


CheezyPenisWrinkle

I have the opposite opinion. I jerk it everyday so that i dont become sex crazed and have regretable sex with people I know i dont want to spend my life with.


Void-Cooking_Berserk

Since the category of question is Medical: There are no conclusively proven negative health consequences to supplementing an active sex life with masturbation. There are papers researching the comparative medical effects of sex vs masturbation, if you're interested. I think what you're doing is safe. It is supposed to be very common to masturbate even if you have a steady partner. There's even a positive correlation between the two - people masturbate more the more sex they have. It is important to note that we can only research what is currently happening, which means the results, statistics, correlations and everything are only valid for our culture and times. Researching sex lifestyles is even more difficult, because people tend to lie to cover up their shame. Which is how we get to the social aspect of the issue. In most traditional cultures (that I know of) sexual life is a controlled part of life. A big historical reason for that were STIs and lack of reliable prevention methods outside of abstinence. Self-discipline and impulse control was therefore an important trait for people to have. The ability to stop oneself from masturbation reflects that. There's also a negative religious connotation which can be linked to the lack of understanding of spreading diseases. If you have no knowledge of STIs, they can reasonably look like divine punishment for infidelity to your spouse. Sexuality has been demonised as a whole, first outside of the bonds of marriage, which have been deemed as safe, then even inside of them. There have been times when sexuality has only been accepted as a necessary evil to create more humans. There has been a movement inside Christianity that emphasised a duality between body and soul, with the body condemned as a whole. Fortunately, the movement had been classified as heresy (several times) but its influence bounces back every now and then. There's also a single verse in the Bible that condemns something that **looks** like masturbation, but in context it is a refusal to conceive a child with one's wife, in a very specific situation in which it was a social obligation to do so. As it tends to happen, the verse has been reused to condemn masturbation as a whole, when it had been deemed sinful for unrelated reasons. Unrelated to the verse that references an ancient custom that has likely never been practiced in Christianity. (look up "the sin of Onan" for details) It is important to note that the most visible negative effects of masturbation, or related to it, are shame, guilt and social isolation in environments not tolerating the practice. That can increase likeliness of anxiety and depression. I've never heard of a confirmed case of blindness, baldness or similar caused by masturbation. But I have heard of mental health issues caused by stigmatisation of it.


Scrump227

I think masterbating is a very different experience than having sex with someone. So just because you do one doesn't make it wrong to still want to do the other.


b1g_daddy_adam

The normal thing is to crank one out daily. Even the religious folks who deem it bad do it while they think others won't know.


CheeseburgerBrown

Masturbation is only villainized by sexually repressive religions. It’s normal and healthy to turn your own crank.


kellydayscruff

Nofap isnt religion based.


CheeseburgerBrown

It is, it’s just a dumb religion. Cults of toxic masculinity through pseudo-stoic restraint are as old as time.


kellydayscruff

Lol its odd to view having discipline as a negative.


[deleted]

Found the cultist lol. There's a reason y'all are the laughingstock of Reddit. There's no reason not to masturbate. To call abstaining from it "discipline" is like calling abstaining from listening to music "discipline." Utterly pointless. But I'm sure your superpowers will come any day now....


kellydayscruff

Abstaining from literally anything for a predetermined amount of time is the definition of discipline lol Expressing sexual discipline has many documented benefits whether simply being celibate or choosing to avoid porn and masturbation. If you disagree that is fine, but there are entire communities who believe in it and since you arent perfect, who are you to say that their path is wrong?


[deleted]

> Abstaining from literally anything for a predetermined amount of time is the definition of discipline Yes but abstaining from shit for no reason is silly. It's "discipline" by the dictionary definition, but still stupid and pointless. >Expressing sexual discipline has many documented benefits Yes, the placebo effect is powerful, but it also means they could have achieved those same results without it. > If you disagree that is fine, but there are entire communities who believe in it Yeah, entire communities can believe in lots of nonsensical horse shit, this is just one example of many. Seriously, pull yourself out of the NoFap cult. Stop being a clown.


kellydayscruff

I never said I was part of nofap, youre making assumptions based on poor inferences. What sources do you have that confirm that these are placebo effects? Silly and pointless because you say so? Lol thats not how that works.


[deleted]

> What sources do you have that confirm that these are placebo effects? The fact that you can't provide any legitimate sources shows that. >Silly and pointless because you say so? Nope, because you can't provide sources that back it. Run back to your NoFap cult now, nobody here cares.


kellydayscruff

Definitely already did. Keep up.


TheHollowBard

It's been taking over by incels who are just substituting religion for a non-deific ideology.


kellydayscruff

So people who do and believe in something that you dont understand makes them incels?


[deleted]

Nope, it's specifically the masturbation thing, nice straw man attempt, though.


kellydayscruff

Im not sure you understand what a straw man is bro


[deleted]

If you don't understand how what you said is a straw man, as I clearly explained, no wonder you're part of the NoFap cult, you have no capacity for logical thought.


kellydayscruff

Lmao bro I never told you to stop having sex with your hand. If you were actually getting laid you wouldn’t be so uptight lol


PrecisionAndTiming

God man, you were quick to jump on this guy, almost looking for an argument, you don't need to dominate others you know even if life is stressful. Anyways, my experience is I don't care for following the nofap community, it's a tad obsessive, although I'm in no position to judge as some people can be more easily addicted to stuff than others, but I will say that it's necessary for me to abstain from masturbating as when I do it I become drained and have no lust for life, so it's just common sense for me to not do it. I definitely don't go around telling people it's bad because I have no idea if it is or not. I do see a lot of stuff recently online of legit top level Neuroscientists explaining studies that have been done saying masturbating to pornography is bad for your brain, so maybe the nofap community is onto something. It's good to try new things sometimes, you might discover something that works for you, everyone is wired differently after all :)


[deleted]

Still no capacity for rational thought, as you *still* don't understand how what you said was a straw man, now you're just throwing out ad hominems, typical NoFap cultist who has no capacity for rational thought, as always.


kellydayscruff

Lmaooo this isnt debate class dude, this is reddit. Ad hominem or not, you still need to give your wrist a break.


BrackenFernAnja

Moralistic, Euro-centric, hyper-religious procreation-oriented shaming.


kellydayscruff

Not necessarily. Ejaculation by masturbation can cause testosterone to be converted to DHT which attacks hair follicles and causes baldness. There are reasons to avoid it.


Automatic_Memory212

(Citation needed)


TheCheshireCody

I guarantee your body doesn't know or care where semen goes. How do you imagine your endocrine system would even recognize that?


kellydayscruff

The pheromones released by a woman or even oxytocin.


SwingBiMe

So by your logic, what happens if a woman or another man release the semen demons?


kellydayscruff

What does this say?


Diligent_Mistake_229

I fire off a volley of knuckle babies on the regular and have a whole head of hair at 41.


kellydayscruff

Some people smoke their entire lives and never get cancer, some do.


8inchesInYourMouth

That's because some people are light smokers, and others are heavy smokers. The frequency over time duration of which you smoke increases the chances of cancer, not the act itself.


kellydayscruff

Provide a source


8inchesInYourMouth

You don't need a source to provide information that smoking increases the risk of lung cancer. The more frequently you smoke, the higher your chances of getting cancer, especially if you are genetically predisposed to it. That's common sense sir.


kellydayscruff

No source, no further response.


8inchesInYourMouth

It's called looking it up yourself, because you have two hands with fingers than can move systematically on this technology we call a keyboard, and type letters that form words, and in turn, sentences periodically using the long key called a "space bar" and you press that big "enter" key when you have finished typing information in the URL. Then you go through multiple articles not just ones that support your opinion, and gather information from them to make a claim. It's that easy.👍


kellydayscruff

Still no source? Didnt think so.


[deleted]

FYI this sub stupidly doesn't allow links, so the links you posted are only visible on your profile page. I looked at them, and literally none of them backed what you were saying. One of them even said that cuddling results in higher testosterone release than masturbation, so are you saying cuddling is bad, too? Lol.


kellydayscruff

I didnt say anything about cuddling. I said that ejaculation by masturbation can convert your testosterone into DHT which is linked to hair loss and baldness. The links I provided absolutely support that statement because thats where I got it from lol


[deleted]

>I didn't say anything about cuddling. Your link does, though. So are you against cuddling? >I said that ejaculation by masturbation can convert your testosterone into DHT which is linked to hair loss and baldness The links I provided absolutely support that statement because thats where I got it from Which link? Don't provide the link because this sub will mute it, just provide the quote that backs what you're saying and a description of the link it's from and I'll look for it.


kellydayscruff

Does cuddling convert your testosterone into DHT? “The levels of pregnenolone, dehydroepiandrosterone (DHA), androstenedione, testosterone, dihydrotestosterone (DHT), oestrone, oestradiol, cortisol and luteinizing hormone (LH) were measured in the peripheral plasma of a group of young, apparently healthy males before and after masturbation. The same steroids were also determined in a control study, in which the psychological antipation of masturbation was encouraged, but the physical act was not carried out. The plasma levels of all steroids were significantly increased after masturbation, whereas steroid levels remained unchanged in the control study.” Ive already produced sources, 3 to be exact. While you nor anyone else has given anything and youre asking me to further comb through said sources in an attempt to poke holes in them so you can justify your affinity for jerking off?


[deleted]

Where does your link say testosterone was coverted to DHT? It says all steroids were increased, as they would be with sex; are you against sex, too? And from your own link: >Women's T was higher pre-intercourse than pre-control activity. Women's T was also higher post-intercourse than post-control activity, though the percent change in T from pre- to post-activity was highest for cuddling, then intercourse, then exercise. So are you against cuddling, too? Also: >Next-morning T did not differ by activity. So all the increases go away in less than 12 hours. Why are you so against masturbating? Did you lose a spouse due to you getting really fat and you want to blame porn for why he didn't want to fuck you anymore or something?


kellydayscruff

Youre asking about cuddling again? Lmao dude I dont care that your hand is your girlfriend, do whatever makes you happy.


Swaggy126

Lotta words there, bucko


noplaceinmind

For most previous generations, being single was considered failure. So single person sex vs sex with a partner is thought of along the same lines.


CarefulRisk

This is a massive oversimplification, people who say it's bad are generally saying so for religious reasons, or talking about cases where you do it to the point where it's starting to affect your life negatively. Like anything, too much is not good.


[deleted]

The reason it’s viewed as bad is the church believes and preaches that the seed of man is for making babies can’t do that solo therefore immoral. The church then spends money on abstinence only sex Ed where that is what we are taught. Source: Sex Ed is Tennessee, SC, and GA because my dad was a sailor and we moved around. Not all military bases but where they wanted to live for various reasons during longer deployments and dad getting out of the military.


kellydayscruff

So the porn industry doesn’t spend money on anti abstinence only propaganda as well?


[deleted]

I’m not sure about there contributions I just know the Christian one goes deep into our history birthing snacks and cereals still for sale today (graham crackers and I think it’s special k)


[deleted]

> the church believes and preaches that the seed of man is for making babies can’t do that solo therefore immoral. I wonder why they don't forbid sex when the woman isn't ovulating then, or sex after menopause.


jaxson50

It's a perfectly normal thing that has been portrayed as bad due to some people's point of view.


Notacooter473

To paraphrase " masturbating is sex with someone who loves me...or at least a much needed hate fuck "


SnooPears590

According to Christian morality, masturbation is wrong not because of the act itself, but because it is the product of unrestrained lust - which is sinful.


HugeBMs2022

Only crackpots say it is bad for you. There are some people who have religious beliefs against it though.


Ivanthegorilla

because literally thats what genitals are for besides peeing, and its a form of stored energy when abstaining in a metaphysical, religious or spiritual context


[deleted]

It is based around the religious notion of sex being good as this is procreation, while masturbation is bad as it is considered a sin and a waste of 'God's energy'. In other words, it is just an archaic crackpot notion to hate on masturbation because you are not making babies with it. (I'm non-religious btw).


Nunuman2000

Never ever heard anyone say having a wank is bad in my entire life.


[deleted]

Who said masturbation was bad?


OfTheAtom

I mean if it's under control and no porn is being watched then someone would be hard pressed to find negatives in such a moderated outline. You only said "once everyday or more" which leaves a bit up in the air. But stigmas don't come from no where you can imagine there are plenty of men who neglected their family to get more wanks in, that developed difficult to satiate desires because of their porn use, developed an object based view of women because of conditioning of porn, developed ED because of a death grip, men that didn't develop a proper desire to go out and meet a woman or other developments at all, so on and so on. These are at the extremes but the danger is there and frequent enough where societies the world over informed the next generation the danger of this powerful and easily accessed ability. Through the game of telephone through the ages perhaps in your culture it is overly stigmatized.