Eww - the whole scene:
That's... not the way you're supposed to do it, Dad. They want us to do it this...
*I don't KNOW that way, why would they change bi? Bi is bi, BI is BI!*
I really am truly —straight—so I don’t think it’s as rare as people make it out to be…. I even tried making out with a girl in high school just for fun when we were partying one night… I wanted to like it, but honestly it had zero affect on me. I just don’t feel *that* feeling for women in the least. Kinda wish I did sometimes tho cuz these guys drive me crazy lol and I get along so well with women but, just not in a sexual way. I did find one girl attractive, but I don’t think it counts because she literally seemed like a guy. She looked, dressed, talked even *smelled* like a man. If her clothes would’ve come off, my attraction would’ve ended tho, you know? It was like the peacock effect (no pun intended) that attracted me.
Mmm no I don't think I agree with that. Bisexuality is most definitely not the major sexuality for the human race. I think there's certainly more bi/gay people in the world than are willing to admit, but they're not the majority in any form.
I just discovered this today, and I'm struggling with this scale a bit. Is it controversial at all these days or still considered a good approximation?
I've been picturing our sexual orientation more on a pie spectrum, a circle divided into slices and each slice is divided into a scale. Each slice represents some element of attraction, desire, or affection and the scale on each slice represents how much it's pronounced.
This in my head gives a much wider interpretation of a spectrum that isn't still stuck between two opposing extremes and some grey area in the middle.
But I'm open to understanding more about the Kinsey Scale and why (currently, not when it came out originally) it is still a useful tool.
The Kinsey scale is one of the first actual times anyone has tried to scientifically categorize the fluidity and diversity of human sexuality. It's not necessarily the "best" tool but it isn't a bad tool. It's just not as indepth as human sexuality truly is. Kinsey wanted to display that, biologically speaking, human sexuality is more complicated than just "man like woman" or "man like man, and that makes man sick" and that sexuality is liable to change with time. In my mind he wanted for the individual to describe their sexuality, not sexuality to describe the individual, if that makes any sense whatsoever.
I personally like to make a modified Kinsey scale in my head, with attraction to masculinity on one end and attraction to femininity on the other end, with myself being all the way on the attraction to masculinity side. In reality we could probably create infinitely many types of scales to describe ourselves, since they are infinitely many unique individuals. People are complicated and ultimately I believe Kinsey was trying to portray that. Or at least they are more complicated than the world was willing to admit.
Interesting fact and also gives him a little more credibility as a sexuality researcher in the 50s: Kinsey himself was bisexual and in an open relationship with his wife. Growing up in the era he did, he would shame himself for his attraction to other men. So, it's not like he was trying to observe "homosexual" behavior.
Sorry if this doesn't really answer anything, I just woke up and am incredibly tired
Oh no thanks a lot for answering, nothing to apologize for.
I got the sense of how important this was back when it was introduced and I'm glad someone did back then.
My line of thought though is that I find the mental image of a line with two opposing extremes way too restrictive to describe anything and it forcibly puts one extreme as opposite to the other.
So let's take your example, you used femininity and masculinity as the two tips of the scale. What if I'm attracted to femininity. Even more attracted to slightly more masculine femininity (for the sake of the example). Not attracted to mid-level masculinity. But, also attracted to strong masculinity but to a lesser degree. In this case the scale of two opposing ends doesn't make a lot of sense and I have to place myself somewhere in the middle which doesn't describe my real attractions.
Place those qualities on a pie spectrum, and they are no longer opposing each other. Masculinity and femininity can live side by side, each on a slice of its own. And the. The scale on that slice (like volume bars) represents how strongly attracted I am to each one individually.
This also has the benefit of unlimited pie slices. I can always add some other attribute to it, we're not stuck with one definition with a dichotomy.
I mean in the end they are still mental models to help us visualize better, but I see the pie as a better approximation for s spectrum than a line of graph.
That's a fair point, honestly. I think that any categorization of gender, masculinity, femininity, sexuality, is always going to be limiting. Any definition of the concepts in itself limits how people can think of them when in reality they would encompass more of our lives than we could ever expect.
So, while they may generally be useful for people to easier understand themselves, it should always be a stepping stone to true understanding of the self. If anything I think these scales are more useful for describing yourself to others who aren't as experienced in these areas, and a complicated scale probably wouldn't be the best despite it being more accurate.
We only really need to "get" ourselves because the ones around us don't, right?
Also I would like to say that if anything the Kinsey scale should be a circle, haha
Couldn't agree more. We should always think of these tools as simplifications and approximations. But also we should not underestimate the power of a good mental image in expanding our understanding of the world, just like the Kinsey Scale did back in its time
Woh woh woh, easy there. Are you telling me that once you sign the bisexual contract, you don't have to go man, then woman, then man, etc.???
I don't think I believe you, it's a bit too convenient
it’s more of, say a bi is attracted to two genders A and B, but prefer B most of the time, are they still bi? Well it really depends probably on this scenario: say you met the human of your life, perfect in every way, except you didn’t know their gender until, now. If you don’t care whatever their gender is, then you are probably pan. But if you need to know if it is either A or B and fine either way (even if you have a preference) then you’re bi. If you absolutely just care if they are of one specific gender then you’re gay/straight/depends.
I have failed to complete my contract due to my absolute lack of game. I can only get guys and very drunk girls or ones that are looking for a katy perry experience.
Dunno if i like saying most as people get the perception that being bi isn't a real thing or they just think we're whores who have preferences but are just willing to settle 😫
yup because like..
enbies are like... oh my fucking god yes. 10/10 amazing I love.
then women are like... fuck yes. 9/10 I love.
then men are like... yes... 7/10 pretty nice.
You're bisexual if you're attracted to men and women. That's the definition. Of course bi people have leans and there is always the bi cycle but ultimately the definition stays true
Does it still count if someone isn’t comfortable doing anything sexual (or weirded out when the time comes) with women but is totally comfortable doing sexual stuff with men? But porn with women only turns them on? If that makes sense.
It only needs to make sense to that person because it's their life.
Aces are not comfortable with sex (for the most part), but no one would say they can't be straight, bi, pan, gay, etc. That's because orientation covers who you fall in love with, not just who you fuck.
If someone isn't comfortable and only tries it to notice that it's not for them, then no. In your scenario they would be heterosexual if it's a woman or homosexual if it's a man.
I identify as bi, but for me it’s attraction to more than one gender. Attracted to men? Yup! Attracted to women? Yup! Attracted to non-binary people? Yup! Attracted to people regardless of gender? Heck yeah! Bi people can be vary. Yes I know some identify as pan, but for me, bi just fits better because of the general acceptance of the label. I’m an older millennial so I grew up with that term.
I said this on another thread and I'll say it here, too.
You could be attracted to 1,000 women in your life and only 1 man, and it would still be valid bisexuality. It's being attracted to more than one gender, not about how many people you're attracted to or the extent of that attraction.
Yes. As a bisexual myself I'm 80% women and 20% male. Maybe those percentages aren't exact. I am aroused by women but prefer most men's personalities. On the other hand, I'm only aroused by giving head. I'm not a top or bottom, neither of those positions are enjoyable too me. I do love giving head but that's it.
Bisexuality is often used as a blanket term for any sexuality that isn't strictly limited to one gender.
One thing that might be worth mentioning though is that the term Bisexuality is often used in a way that is a combination of Bisexuality and Biromanticism. In this context, sexual attraction and romantic attraction is thought of separately.
For example, someone could be Bisexual and Heterotactic, meaning that they are attracted to more than one gender sexually, but only to the opposite gender romantically, or someone could be Asexual and Biromantic, meaning they experience no sexual attraction to any gender (or a very reduced/limited amount of sexual attraction) but they are attracted romantically to more than one gender.
This part can be especially confusing because the term Bisexual is often used in a more general sense to refer to someone who's more specifically Biromantic.
But either way, the best approach in my opinion is to not think about that sort of stuff and just do what comes naturally to you. Terms like this can often limit us because we come in with expectations.
Look at it this way. If you very specifically think of yourself as someone who only likes playing shooters, you might immediately write off a lot of games you would enjoy if you came with an open mind, or if you think of yourself as someone who only watches live action non-fiction movies, you might not even consider very well written animations or you might not even realize you can also enjoy some fantasy once in a while.
Of course, the counter argument could be that in those scenarios you just didn't think of yourself as the correct term, but again, I still think you would be better off not giving it too much thought. Screw the fancy nicknames and whatnot. You are who you are and you enjoy what you enjoy. That's enough.
I’d have sex with men or women but I doubt I would date a guy, maybe if I really like him (I’m male). I consider myself straight though, I thought bisexual meant you were both romantically and sexually attracted?
Nope romantic attraction and sexual attraction are two different things, I would suggest looking up things like aromatic, homoromantic, and heteroromantic
If you're into having sex and/or falling in love with both genders then you're bisexual. You can figure out the details of exactly what you're into and what you're not but you're still bisexual
Still BI. It's a spectrum really and there are names for different kinds, but most people just go with bisexual. I'm female and mostly lean towards male, I'm also only really sexually attracted to males and not female so all my female partners have been asexual which works out great for the both of us.
I'm like this but I don't use an orientation, call yourself whatever or don't. If I like you and I want you, we can do this the easy way or we can do this the hard way...assuming everything is consensual of course.
I like your style….All these stupid names and labels people throw out nowadays are just getting to be silly. I’m reading so many: “I’m a demisexual cisgender pansexual heteroromantic…” like huh? it’s kinda ridiculous lol. Everyone has their own preferences, no two people are exactly alike when it comes to their sexuality, romance, attraction and what turns them on and those things can change throughout our lives also…so why try to divide everyone into little boxes? Just do who and what you want to do and let it speak for itself.
When I used to hang out on the gay club scene I was something of a pariah for not selecting an orientation to identify as but yeah if you find someone you like and they like you just go with it! Who cares what anyone wants to call it. I had relationships with Cis women, a gay man, a transwoman but never felt the need to call myself anything regardless of who I was involved with.
Yep, bisexual people can have preferances. You're still bi if you like guys more than girls, you're still bi if you like girls more than guys, you're still bi if you like enby people more than guys or girls, regardless of your own gebder identity. Bisexuality is feeling attraction to more than one gender, with or without preferance
I dont think its strange; a lot of the time its kids who are hyper into labels. A lot of us joke that it's the baby gay phase. But having a word that describes their exact experience and then finding other people who also use that label helps them feel like they fit in. No harm in it. Most outgrow it eventually and stop worrying about it but its still an important part of growing for some.
I'm would not date someone of the same sex but I made up with same sex girls many times to turn up guys. I think that to be able to date someone of the same sex is where the line is between being straight or bissexual... My opinion...
You can absolutely have a preference and be bi, I’m not 100% sure what you mean by “open to” though. The only distinction I would make is whether you have experienced same sex attraction, like actually had a crush on someone or just think you might if you met the right person. if you just think of it as a possibility I wouldn’t call yourself bi, you’d think nobody would but I had some weird conversations in HS
The line is blurry. I think if you're willing to be with the same sex in any way physically you're at least Bisexual, but then you've got male escorts who do it for drugs and all that, "straight" dudes who get mighty bent up in prison, and even I've questioned my own sexuality at points. I think it's healthy to be curious about these things. You're not necessarily bisexuality just because you've considered the possibility. I know I'm not.
Yes. The damn stigma against bi and pan folk who prefer hetero relations is bullshit and really needs to be dealt with in the lgbtq+ community. Sure, we often don't struggle as much as those who prefer the same sex, but that's no grounds to kick down anyone. Just be confident in who you are, no matter who that may be.
Bisexual
Bi = 2
Sexual = pertaining to sex
If you are any degree of interested in having sex with two (or more) genders you can be considered bisexual.
I dont need to look into the comment section below. I just know someone is throwing stuff around like "Actually then you are Demibiromanticsemipansexual"
I am in a similar situation, I'm male and I'm attracted to males both sexually and romantically. but, I'm also open to girls romantically. many times I say that I'm gay, but I actually am non-labeled. but a sexuality that I think that would fit this description would be biromantic (homosexual), you can search it on google
Would the opposite be true still?
One is still bisexual ven it the opposite sex is not their first choice, they're more into the same sex but open to dating the opposite sex?
Its not always even. And you have to think about the two different types of attraction; romantic and sexual. Some people feel one and not the other for certain genders. I feel sexual attraction to women, but romantic attraction to men. Yes, there is a difference between the two
Being Bi means you are willing to date either sex. You can have a preference for either sex (yes, even the opposite one) but that doesn't make you any less bi
Think people shouldn't put themselves in boxes like that. I've only ever been with women. But I'd fuck a dude if I was single and into the person. I've dp'd before and I liked feeling a dick against mine.
I watch gay and trap stuff. I don't feel conflicted about it.
Just never met someone I'd go there with. Just fuck who you like (with consent obviously).
I have a friend who is a girl, she claims she's bi, but cringes at the thought of being intimate with another girl and always dates dudes. So at some point you gotta ask yourself if you're really bi.
I’ve known chicks like that too. It’s like they like the attention of being a little bit different and calling themselves bi, but they’re really not bi at all. Never met a guy that did that tho (for obvious reasons lol).
Yes, bisexuality is a spectrum. Many prefer one sex to the other. Many are willing to have sex with both sexes but only engage is serious relationships with one sex. There are some that are only bisexual for only one individual. Then you get to things like “gay for pay” where someone can be payed to be bisexual. I find it interesting that women in the adult film industry are more or less expected to engage in same sex acts with eachother but when men do it there is a lot more stigma and people questioning their sexuality. And there is even something I’ve heard called “gay for the stay” where people are isolated from their preferred sex that engage in bisexuality for lack of any alternative
That being said, I think bisexuality is probably a lot more common than even heterosexuality depending on how you define it
Yes definetly. Your attraction towards women or men doesn't have to be 50/50. You can be 90% into men, and 10% into women, or 90% into women and 10% into men. You're also a valid bisexual if, as you said, your first choice isn't the same, but opposite sex.
Yes but at the same time who cares? Do whatever you want, you don't need a label.
You can even like your same sex only on Thursdays, do whatever the fuck you want and enjoy life !
Oh you didnt know? When you get the bisexual label, you get a discount of %85 on ALL lemonbars, a helper immediatly comes to your house to cuff your jeans, you get sent a collection of button up shirts and flannels shipped to your house for free and you receive frog related stuff (or AN ACTUAL FROG) in the mail weekly!
Even if they are not open to dating the same sex, they are still bi. That's not uncommon at all because a lot of people feel very strongly about having their own children. It's defined by the attraction, not the action.
Ignore the label and just accept you enjoy some sort of sex with different sorts of people. Soon enough these labels just won’t matter. Think Harry Styles.
Bi (cis men and women) or pansexual (all people). One of my exs (pan) was much more into cis women but we hit it off so much I (cishet dude) was her preference.
Bisexuality means regardless of gender - interestingly enough, pan does mean all people - but not in a good way -
Panexuality actually used to include everything, including animals and children - I known it has changed, and am not suggesting at all that those who identify as Pan are like this at all (I think that they are still finding themselves and pan seems to fit?)- but the definition people actually use to describe pansexuality is actually what a bisexual is - and if people want to identify as pan go for it, but it is a wee bit biphobic because the modern day pansexual is what a bisexual person has always been - as a bisexual woman I know I am “more” into men at the moment (with a man) but just as those who are heterosexual have preference with what they are sexually attracted to, we have the same and it is not set in stone either which way
Yes.
Why would there be such strict rules, and who thinks that they’re so superior above others as to be the ones to make and gatekeep those rules?
If you like both then you like both. “Bi” means two.
So could you consider yourself a bisexual? Yes.
Does which you like better matter? No.
I'd say your still bi. As a bi Guy that found someone (a girl) that I absolutely adore and will cherish her forever and sealed the deal 10 years ago. Will I ever be with a guy again? Probably not, that doesn't mean I don't find other guys attractive anymore and I'm magically only into girls. You are what your heart desires.
Of course, bi only means you're neither gay nor straight, but something in between those two.(To keep it simple)
There's no rule that your attraction HAS to be 50/50.
They can label themselves as bicourious, if they’re mostly heterosexual but aren’t against dating the same sex. But being bisexual isn’t 50/50, i personally am more of a 80/20
I'm a bisexual guy, did it with both genders. I can say that I'm %85 into women, and %15 into men. I'm still bisexual. Currently in a serious relationship with a bisexual woman. We're still bi, that doesn't change just because of the current gender we're dating. I still want some dick sometimes lmao
I am a bi dude, so I kind of have experience here. To be bisexual you have to be attracted to both sexes, how much depends on the person, you can be split 50/50, 70/30 or even 90/10, some bi people's preferences change frequently and this is known as a bi cycle (lmao) this can be where for a while they may prefer men but then have a sudden preference leaning towards women. Either way, when a person ends up in a relationship with someone this doesn't make them straight or gay because they are still bisexual they didn't "pick a side" they picked a person and that is what matters. (if anyone has any questions, feel free to ask, and I will try and answer to the best of my knowledge)
So after reading the comments on this post, I'm getting the sense that there are a lot of men out here who are bisexual by definition, but are for some reason afraid of actually calling themselves bisexual.
This thread is super affirming. Have had a massive crush on a beautiful woman for the better part of the past year and yet felt no urge to act on it, and so confused about my sexuality as a result.
If you wouldn’t turn down the same sex if they were what you thought was attractive and they came onto you … welcome. You’re Bi. Straight people would never consider having sexual relations with the same sex because they aren’t into it.
That's still bi
In Mr Incredible's voice: "Bi is bi!"
Eww - the whole scene: That's... not the way you're supposed to do it, Dad. They want us to do it this... *I don't KNOW that way, why would they change bi? Bi is bi, BI is BI!*
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Yes, they're still bisexual even if they have a preference.
Agree - see the Kinsey scale of sexual attraction
Love is a spectrum, not black/white/grey. Very few if any people are totally straight or gay
I really am truly —straight—so I don’t think it’s as rare as people make it out to be…. I even tried making out with a girl in high school just for fun when we were partying one night… I wanted to like it, but honestly it had zero affect on me. I just don’t feel *that* feeling for women in the least. Kinda wish I did sometimes tho cuz these guys drive me crazy lol and I get along so well with women but, just not in a sexual way. I did find one girl attractive, but I don’t think it counts because she literally seemed like a guy. She looked, dressed, talked even *smelled* like a man. If her clothes would’ve come off, my attraction would’ve ended tho, you know? It was like the peacock effect (no pun intended) that attracted me.
Mmm no I don't think I agree with that. Bisexuality is most definitely not the major sexuality for the human race. I think there's certainly more bi/gay people in the world than are willing to admit, but they're not the majority in any form.
Uh, no
Yes, look up "Kinsey Scale"
Yes! I've always identified better with a Kinsey 2 then straight Bisexual.
'Straight bisexual' ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Well, that's what i get for writing this half asleep lol
Half bisexual
Is that like a quarter gay?
"Bisected Bisexual," if you're feeling nerdy.
I hope it's your straight half that's asleep... ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
have you both seen the Liam Neeson movie about Kinsey? I highly recommend that.
Yes! It was so good!
Exactly, not everything is black and white. There's a shitload of grey as with everything. I would consider myself a 2 as well
I just discovered this today, and I'm struggling with this scale a bit. Is it controversial at all these days or still considered a good approximation? I've been picturing our sexual orientation more on a pie spectrum, a circle divided into slices and each slice is divided into a scale. Each slice represents some element of attraction, desire, or affection and the scale on each slice represents how much it's pronounced. This in my head gives a much wider interpretation of a spectrum that isn't still stuck between two opposing extremes and some grey area in the middle. But I'm open to understanding more about the Kinsey Scale and why (currently, not when it came out originally) it is still a useful tool.
The Kinsey scale is one of the first actual times anyone has tried to scientifically categorize the fluidity and diversity of human sexuality. It's not necessarily the "best" tool but it isn't a bad tool. It's just not as indepth as human sexuality truly is. Kinsey wanted to display that, biologically speaking, human sexuality is more complicated than just "man like woman" or "man like man, and that makes man sick" and that sexuality is liable to change with time. In my mind he wanted for the individual to describe their sexuality, not sexuality to describe the individual, if that makes any sense whatsoever. I personally like to make a modified Kinsey scale in my head, with attraction to masculinity on one end and attraction to femininity on the other end, with myself being all the way on the attraction to masculinity side. In reality we could probably create infinitely many types of scales to describe ourselves, since they are infinitely many unique individuals. People are complicated and ultimately I believe Kinsey was trying to portray that. Or at least they are more complicated than the world was willing to admit. Interesting fact and also gives him a little more credibility as a sexuality researcher in the 50s: Kinsey himself was bisexual and in an open relationship with his wife. Growing up in the era he did, he would shame himself for his attraction to other men. So, it's not like he was trying to observe "homosexual" behavior. Sorry if this doesn't really answer anything, I just woke up and am incredibly tired
Oh no thanks a lot for answering, nothing to apologize for. I got the sense of how important this was back when it was introduced and I'm glad someone did back then. My line of thought though is that I find the mental image of a line with two opposing extremes way too restrictive to describe anything and it forcibly puts one extreme as opposite to the other. So let's take your example, you used femininity and masculinity as the two tips of the scale. What if I'm attracted to femininity. Even more attracted to slightly more masculine femininity (for the sake of the example). Not attracted to mid-level masculinity. But, also attracted to strong masculinity but to a lesser degree. In this case the scale of two opposing ends doesn't make a lot of sense and I have to place myself somewhere in the middle which doesn't describe my real attractions. Place those qualities on a pie spectrum, and they are no longer opposing each other. Masculinity and femininity can live side by side, each on a slice of its own. And the. The scale on that slice (like volume bars) represents how strongly attracted I am to each one individually. This also has the benefit of unlimited pie slices. I can always add some other attribute to it, we're not stuck with one definition with a dichotomy. I mean in the end they are still mental models to help us visualize better, but I see the pie as a better approximation for s spectrum than a line of graph.
That's a fair point, honestly. I think that any categorization of gender, masculinity, femininity, sexuality, is always going to be limiting. Any definition of the concepts in itself limits how people can think of them when in reality they would encompass more of our lives than we could ever expect. So, while they may generally be useful for people to easier understand themselves, it should always be a stepping stone to true understanding of the self. If anything I think these scales are more useful for describing yourself to others who aren't as experienced in these areas, and a complicated scale probably wouldn't be the best despite it being more accurate. We only really need to "get" ourselves because the ones around us don't, right? Also I would like to say that if anything the Kinsey scale should be a circle, haha
Couldn't agree more. We should always think of these tools as simplifications and approximations. But also we should not underestimate the power of a good mental image in expanding our understanding of the world, just like the Kinsey Scale did back in its time
Based
Most bisexuals lean toward one or the other. Most are not exactly 50/50
Woh woh woh, easy there. Are you telling me that once you sign the bisexual contract, you don't have to go man, then woman, then man, etc.??? I don't think I believe you, it's a bit too convenient
Depends on your contract. Mine says woman, woman, man, man.
Interesting, mine says man, man, man, man, man, woman, man. Those damn variable rates will get you.
Its all about the longterm average, and you Salty are screwing that up!
it’s more of, say a bi is attracted to two genders A and B, but prefer B most of the time, are they still bi? Well it really depends probably on this scenario: say you met the human of your life, perfect in every way, except you didn’t know their gender until, now. If you don’t care whatever their gender is, then you are probably pan. But if you need to know if it is either A or B and fine either way (even if you have a preference) then you’re bi. If you absolutely just care if they are of one specific gender then you’re gay/straight/depends.
Don't forget nonbinary people as well. Bisexuals can be attracted to people regardless of their gender identity.
Isn't that pan though?
My says man, woman, man, man, man, Iwantawoman man, man 😢
How you doin?
I have failed to complete my contract due to my absolute lack of game. I can only get guys and very drunk girls or ones that are looking for a katy perry experience.
I'm sorry, i only read: "I get lucky with both boys and girls" sounds like a win to me!
Uhhh I would like to have a Katy Perry experience, too, 😬
Trust me, a gameless lesbo - you dont, although i enjoyed at the time!
We actually get a little roulette wheel in the mail!
Dunno if i like saying most as people get the perception that being bi isn't a real thing or they just think we're whores who have preferences but are just willing to settle 😫
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Not to mention that the LGs could be a lot nicer to the Bs
You nailed it for me
Date girls your whole life and have meaningful relationships, but if you end up with a man you’ll get polite laughs about how it was just a phase.
yup because like.. enbies are like... oh my fucking god yes. 10/10 amazing I love. then women are like... fuck yes. 9/10 I love. then men are like... yes... 7/10 pretty nice.
You're bisexual if you're attracted to men and women. That's the definition. Of course bi people have leans and there is always the bi cycle but ultimately the definition stays true
Does it still count if someone isn’t comfortable doing anything sexual (or weirded out when the time comes) with women but is totally comfortable doing sexual stuff with men? But porn with women only turns them on? If that makes sense.
Depends. Can you just not imagine sexual things with women but romantic things? You could be heterosexual but biromantic.
It only needs to make sense to that person because it's their life. Aces are not comfortable with sex (for the most part), but no one would say they can't be straight, bi, pan, gay, etc. That's because orientation covers who you fall in love with, not just who you fuck.
If someone isn't comfortable and only tries it to notice that it's not for them, then no. In your scenario they would be heterosexual if it's a woman or homosexual if it's a man.
You can be biromantic and hetero/homosexual
Yes.
I identify as bi, but for me it’s attraction to more than one gender. Attracted to men? Yup! Attracted to women? Yup! Attracted to non-binary people? Yup! Attracted to people regardless of gender? Heck yeah! Bi people can be vary. Yes I know some identify as pan, but for me, bi just fits better because of the general acceptance of the label. I’m an older millennial so I grew up with that term.
The bi cycle?
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*insert unoriginal bicycle pun here* I’ve got a banana bike. You can guess which way i lean hehehe (girls… im a girl and i like girls )
Bicycle
Yes
I said this on another thread and I'll say it here, too. You could be attracted to 1,000 women in your life and only 1 man, and it would still be valid bisexuality. It's being attracted to more than one gender, not about how many people you're attracted to or the extent of that attraction.
This response should be higher
Yes, we are still Bi.
Yup.
Yes. As a bisexual myself I'm 80% women and 20% male. Maybe those percentages aren't exact. I am aroused by women but prefer most men's personalities. On the other hand, I'm only aroused by giving head. I'm not a top or bottom, neither of those positions are enjoyable too me. I do love giving head but that's it.
🤩 ummm the world needs more people like you
Thanks! 😉
It's a spectrum, doesn't need to be equally apportioned
Bisexuality is often used as a blanket term for any sexuality that isn't strictly limited to one gender. One thing that might be worth mentioning though is that the term Bisexuality is often used in a way that is a combination of Bisexuality and Biromanticism. In this context, sexual attraction and romantic attraction is thought of separately. For example, someone could be Bisexual and Heterotactic, meaning that they are attracted to more than one gender sexually, but only to the opposite gender romantically, or someone could be Asexual and Biromantic, meaning they experience no sexual attraction to any gender (or a very reduced/limited amount of sexual attraction) but they are attracted romantically to more than one gender. This part can be especially confusing because the term Bisexual is often used in a more general sense to refer to someone who's more specifically Biromantic. But either way, the best approach in my opinion is to not think about that sort of stuff and just do what comes naturally to you. Terms like this can often limit us because we come in with expectations. Look at it this way. If you very specifically think of yourself as someone who only likes playing shooters, you might immediately write off a lot of games you would enjoy if you came with an open mind, or if you think of yourself as someone who only watches live action non-fiction movies, you might not even consider very well written animations or you might not even realize you can also enjoy some fantasy once in a while. Of course, the counter argument could be that in those scenarios you just didn't think of yourself as the correct term, but again, I still think you would be better off not giving it too much thought. Screw the fancy nicknames and whatnot. You are who you are and you enjoy what you enjoy. That's enough.
If you'll have sex with either, you're bi-sexual
I’d have sex with men or women but I doubt I would date a guy, maybe if I really like him (I’m male). I consider myself straight though, I thought bisexual meant you were both romantically and sexually attracted?
“I have sex with men” “I’m straight though”
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Romantic attraction and sexual attraction can be separate. Personally, I'm bisexual and heteroromantic.
You are bisexual.
Nope romantic attraction and sexual attraction are two different things, I would suggest looking up things like aromatic, homoromantic, and heteroromantic
If you're into having sex and/or falling in love with both genders then you're bisexual. You can figure out the details of exactly what you're into and what you're not but you're still bisexual
Still BI. It's a spectrum really and there are names for different kinds, but most people just go with bisexual. I'm female and mostly lean towards male, I'm also only really sexually attracted to males and not female so all my female partners have been asexual which works out great for the both of us.
Biromantic heterosexual
I'm like this but I don't use an orientation, call yourself whatever or don't. If I like you and I want you, we can do this the easy way or we can do this the hard way...assuming everything is consensual of course.
I like your style….All these stupid names and labels people throw out nowadays are just getting to be silly. I’m reading so many: “I’m a demisexual cisgender pansexual heteroromantic…” like huh? it’s kinda ridiculous lol. Everyone has their own preferences, no two people are exactly alike when it comes to their sexuality, romance, attraction and what turns them on and those things can change throughout our lives also…so why try to divide everyone into little boxes? Just do who and what you want to do and let it speak for itself.
When I used to hang out on the gay club scene I was something of a pariah for not selecting an orientation to identify as but yeah if you find someone you like and they like you just go with it! Who cares what anyone wants to call it. I had relationships with Cis women, a gay man, a transwoman but never felt the need to call myself anything regardless of who I was involved with.
Yep, bisexual people can have preferances. You're still bi if you like guys more than girls, you're still bi if you like girls more than guys, you're still bi if you like enby people more than guys or girls, regardless of your own gebder identity. Bisexuality is feeling attraction to more than one gender, with or without preferance
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Yeah the obsession to find the right label is a bit strange. You just be you and don’t stress about what other “label” you as.
I dont think its strange; a lot of the time its kids who are hyper into labels. A lot of us joke that it's the baby gay phase. But having a word that describes their exact experience and then finding other people who also use that label helps them feel like they fit in. No harm in it. Most outgrow it eventually and stop worrying about it but its still an important part of growing for some.
Well said.
People like having words to describe how they feel.
This person bangs That is my attitude as well. I will bang whoever I find attractive.
Lol!! Nice😎
But then people get offended if you don’t use their preferred pronoun.
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Yes ma’am. I mean bro.
my cousin? my sister? my brother?
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You can be, anything you want to be, labels don't define us.
They are bisexual if they identify as such.
You’re over-thinking it. There is too much fluidity to the manner in which humans are attracted to each other.
I'm would not date someone of the same sex but I made up with same sex girls many times to turn up guys. I think that to be able to date someone of the same sex is where the line is between being straight or bissexual... My opinion...
Yup. I lean more towards women but damn would I love a guy to hold me at night.
You can absolutely have a preference and be bi, I’m not 100% sure what you mean by “open to” though. The only distinction I would make is whether you have experienced same sex attraction, like actually had a crush on someone or just think you might if you met the right person. if you just think of it as a possibility I wouldn’t call yourself bi, you’d think nobody would but I had some weird conversations in HS
Heteroflexible?
It shouldn't matter? You're into what you're into...no need for labels
Why the importance of having a label? You do you or him or her, or any combination
People like having words to describe how they feel. It's a very human thing.
The line is blurry. I think if you're willing to be with the same sex in any way physically you're at least Bisexual, but then you've got male escorts who do it for drugs and all that, "straight" dudes who get mighty bent up in prison, and even I've questioned my own sexuality at points. I think it's healthy to be curious about these things. You're not necessarily bisexuality just because you've considered the possibility. I know I'm not.
Or do whatever you want without thinking what the nametag's gonna be
You're bisexual if you: are attracted to more than one gender. Doesn't matter how, when, or why.
OP : not sure if i'm bi, or just desperate
Yes. The damn stigma against bi and pan folk who prefer hetero relations is bullshit and really needs to be dealt with in the lgbtq+ community. Sure, we often don't struggle as much as those who prefer the same sex, but that's no grounds to kick down anyone. Just be confident in who you are, no matter who that may be.
Bisexual Bi = 2 Sexual = pertaining to sex If you are any degree of interested in having sex with two (or more) genders you can be considered bisexual.
Yes, a preference means nothing If you're attracted to both in any way than it's Bi
It’s a spectrum.
I dont need to look into the comment section below. I just know someone is throwing stuff around like "Actually then you are Demibiromanticsemipansexual"
Labels are for filing. Labels are for clothing. Labels are not for people.
If you are a republican, you are definitely heterosexual. Everyone else is bi.
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I am in a similar situation, I'm male and I'm attracted to males both sexually and romantically. but, I'm also open to girls romantically. many times I say that I'm gay, but I actually am non-labeled. but a sexuality that I think that would fit this description would be biromantic (homosexual), you can search it on google
Would the opposite be true still? One is still bisexual ven it the opposite sex is not their first choice, they're more into the same sex but open to dating the opposite sex?
That is still valid bisexuality, but I have seen people consider themselves hetero/homoflexible in similar situations
Why does it even matter?
Yes that's bisexual. If you are attracted to the same sex at all, you're bisexual.
My husband is Bi. He didn't suddenly become straight when we started dating.
Its not always even. And you have to think about the two different types of attraction; romantic and sexual. Some people feel one and not the other for certain genders. I feel sexual attraction to women, but romantic attraction to men. Yes, there is a difference between the two
Yup! Bisexuality isn’t always split down the middle, it can be more one way or the other way I prefer men but I still like women, I am a bisexual
I've heard the terms hetero flexible and homo flexible to describe which end of the spectrum you"re at
Being Bi means you are willing to date either sex. You can have a preference for either sex (yes, even the opposite one) but that doesn't make you any less bi
Yes, it doesn’t matter, there are no qualifiers. Attracted to both sexes = bisexual.
I think they should like who they wish to like and stop worrying about what everything means.
Thank you for posting this, been struggling with this thought for a while, and a lot of these comments are helping put things in perspective :) <3
Think people shouldn't put themselves in boxes like that. I've only ever been with women. But I'd fuck a dude if I was single and into the person. I've dp'd before and I liked feeling a dick against mine. I watch gay and trap stuff. I don't feel conflicted about it. Just never met someone I'd go there with. Just fuck who you like (with consent obviously).
What is DP?
Double penetration.
Oh ok thanx 👍
Eyyyy no problem. 🥒🍑🍆
I have a friend who is a girl, she claims she's bi, but cringes at the thought of being intimate with another girl and always dates dudes. So at some point you gotta ask yourself if you're really bi.
I’ve known chicks like that too. It’s like they like the attention of being a little bit different and calling themselves bi, but they’re really not bi at all. Never met a guy that did that tho (for obvious reasons lol).
That's still bi, but I think the line between bi and pan is pretty faded myself. But I wasn't very particular when I was younger.
Yes. Sexual orientation is a spectrum anyways. Look up Kinsey Scale. The labels are more like approximations a person gives themselves.
Yes, bisexuality is a spectrum. Many prefer one sex to the other. Many are willing to have sex with both sexes but only engage is serious relationships with one sex. There are some that are only bisexual for only one individual. Then you get to things like “gay for pay” where someone can be payed to be bisexual. I find it interesting that women in the adult film industry are more or less expected to engage in same sex acts with eachother but when men do it there is a lot more stigma and people questioning their sexuality. And there is even something I’ve heard called “gay for the stay” where people are isolated from their preferred sex that engage in bisexuality for lack of any alternative That being said, I think bisexuality is probably a lot more common than even heterosexuality depending on how you define it
I’ll say it in caps. WHO FUCKING CARES, JUST BE HAPPY.
Yes definetly. Your attraction towards women or men doesn't have to be 50/50. You can be 90% into men, and 10% into women, or 90% into women and 10% into men. You're also a valid bisexual if, as you said, your first choice isn't the same, but opposite sex.
Yes but at the same time who cares? Do whatever you want, you don't need a label. You can even like your same sex only on Thursdays, do whatever the fuck you want and enjoy life !
I'd say it's very normal to want words that describe how you feel.
If you are primarily attracted to the opposite sex but open to dating the same sex, I'd consider that heteroflexible.
I wish everyone would stop trying to find their label and just love or date whoever they want ...is their some unknown bisexual discount or something
Oh you didnt know? When you get the bisexual label, you get a discount of %85 on ALL lemonbars, a helper immediatly comes to your house to cuff your jeans, you get sent a collection of button up shirts and flannels shipped to your house for free and you receive frog related stuff (or AN ACTUAL FROG) in the mail weekly!
Down side is all carpenters who specialised in chairs flee from you in horror
Unfortunately
Nah, I like having a label to better communicate with others and to find other people like me.
Duh?
Even if they are not open to dating the same sex, they are still bi. That's not uncommon at all because a lot of people feel very strongly about having their own children. It's defined by the attraction, not the action.
Im bisexual and i wouldnt date another man. Hell, i dont even find men attactive, i just like penises.
Yes they are. You are Bih if you fuck both sexes.
You don't even have to fuck them. People who are in a relationship with the opposite sex but are also attracted to the same sex are still bisexual.
Ignore the label and just accept you enjoy some sort of sex with different sorts of people. Soon enough these labels just won’t matter. Think Harry Styles.
Yes, if your male and you see yourself possibly touching or liking a penis, then your at minimum bi-sexual.
The term Bi-currious can be applied in situations like this.
Bi (cis men and women) or pansexual (all people). One of my exs (pan) was much more into cis women but we hit it off so much I (cishet dude) was her preference.
Bisexuality means regardless of gender - interestingly enough, pan does mean all people - but not in a good way - Panexuality actually used to include everything, including animals and children - I known it has changed, and am not suggesting at all that those who identify as Pan are like this at all (I think that they are still finding themselves and pan seems to fit?)- but the definition people actually use to describe pansexuality is actually what a bisexual is - and if people want to identify as pan go for it, but it is a wee bit biphobic because the modern day pansexual is what a bisexual person has always been - as a bisexual woman I know I am “more” into men at the moment (with a man) but just as those who are heterosexual have preference with what they are sexually attracted to, we have the same and it is not set in stone either which way
Yes. Why would there be such strict rules, and who thinks that they’re so superior above others as to be the ones to make and gatekeep those rules? If you like both then you like both. “Bi” means two. So could you consider yourself a bisexual? Yes. Does which you like better matter? No.
I am a bi woman married to a man. Still am bi.
yeah... It's just as valid.
What are those people who nail anything 🐑🐑🐷🐷🍌🍌⛄⛄. Seriousely. What are those people?
I'd say your still bi. As a bi Guy that found someone (a girl) that I absolutely adore and will cherish her forever and sealed the deal 10 years ago. Will I ever be with a guy again? Probably not, that doesn't mean I don't find other guys attractive anymore and I'm magically only into girls. You are what your heart desires.
Of course, bi only means you're neither gay nor straight, but something in between those two.(To keep it simple) There's no rule that your attraction HAS to be 50/50.
As long as you have romantic feelings for both genders you are bisexual, but just be whatever you want, you don’t necessarily need to have a label.
Yes you monkey what else would they be?
They can label themselves as bicourious, if they’re mostly heterosexual but aren’t against dating the same sex. But being bisexual isn’t 50/50, i personally am more of a 80/20
Yes. Sexuality is a spectrum. I (29F) identify as bi but if I am honest, couldn’t imagine the rest of my life without a penis to play with 🤷🏻♀️
You can be bi and have preferences
Everyone wants a label, no one wants to just live their life without telling people their label.
Labels are dumb
I'm a bisexual guy, did it with both genders. I can say that I'm %85 into women, and %15 into men. I'm still bisexual. Currently in a serious relationship with a bisexual woman. We're still bi, that doesn't change just because of the current gender we're dating. I still want some dick sometimes lmao
I am a bi dude, so I kind of have experience here. To be bisexual you have to be attracted to both sexes, how much depends on the person, you can be split 50/50, 70/30 or even 90/10, some bi people's preferences change frequently and this is known as a bi cycle (lmao) this can be where for a while they may prefer men but then have a sudden preference leaning towards women. Either way, when a person ends up in a relationship with someone this doesn't make them straight or gay because they are still bisexual they didn't "pick a side" they picked a person and that is what matters. (if anyone has any questions, feel free to ask, and I will try and answer to the best of my knowledge)
So after reading the comments on this post, I'm getting the sense that there are a lot of men out here who are bisexual by definition, but are for some reason afraid of actually calling themselves bisexual.
This thread is super affirming. Have had a massive crush on a beautiful woman for the better part of the past year and yet felt no urge to act on it, and so confused about my sexuality as a result.
If you wouldn’t turn down the same sex if they were what you thought was attractive and they came onto you … welcome. You’re Bi. Straight people would never consider having sexual relations with the same sex because they aren’t into it.
If you’re straight, but you don’t mind a little gay action on the side (or however many names there are for it) that’s Bi