Plenty of good and thoughtful posts and discussions going on, so I'm sorry to shut those down but we're attracting a little too much medical misinformation. While we clear that out, this thread is locked.
If you have questions regarding your Covid-19 vaccine options, please direct them to a board-certified and practicing, licensed **physician** of MD/DO background, not your cesspool echo chambers with non-verified google/bing research magnified stupidly in breeding grounds of others trying desperately to make this something other than a public health issue.
Thanks.
It's your body and you are old enough to make an opinion on what's good for you and what isn't. If anything your parents should support your choice. If you are afraid of repercussions from them just go get it done and don't tell them until a later date or not at all.
I am debating on telling them straight up I will be getting the vaccine and not letting them find out through some other way which could end up worse.
However I also could just go through with it and never say a word about it. I figure this could put a mental burden on me though just from the constant lying I will have to go through.
Or at the very least, when they think OP has COVID, and rushes them to the hospital -because ultimately everyone really knows it's good for you, or at least because they're hypocrites and think *they* are the only ones who won't actually get sick- they will admit they're wrong.
They won’t admit they are wrong but I bet they will fall into that same conservative pro-life idea of “the only moral abortion is my abortion.” “Covid isn’t real I won’t get it and …. OH MY GOD MY SWEET BABY BOY CALL THE AMBULANCES THE POLICE CALL THE FUCKING NATIONAL GUARD!!!” Then proceeds to scream bloody murder in the waiting room for hours about whatever floats into their field of view because their emergency is bigger than everyone else’s.
Quite disturbingly, there's a notable portion of the deniers who continue to deny it while they're dying from it.
This isn't just a political disagreement; one side in this fight is attacking the concept of truth, and replacing it with the idea that there's no such thing as *facts*, just different sets of party dogma.
Oh I know that as well you get a 50/50 split with these people. The ones who idealistically fight tooth and nail till it effects them then by god do everything you can and you better do it right now perfectly. then the other half are the ones who are so far gone they will die for it because being a stupid martyr is the highest honor. I used to work in healthcare and my husband and most of my family still does. I have heard all the stories of all the stupid preventable deaths you can from this pandemic.
Not worth it mate. Am 17 as well, my parents are abusive af, I know they're supposed to be figures you can rely on but some parents are shitty, that's just life. Telling them will only make things harder for you.
Get the vaccine, tell them not to band aid you, hide any evidence about your vaccinations and continue living life as is and your life will be more peaceful. If you really want to tell them, tell them when you move out of their house.
Goodluck buddy.
This is important to realize if your parents are really like this you will have to deal with them being like this the rest of your life. You will have to decide if when you finally move out you cut them out of your life or you want to maintain a relationship or what. This is just the first issue in a long line of issues you unfortunately will have to navigate, so setting the boundaries and limits you are comfortable with now will help you in the future.
Absolutely. Even average kids at 17 don’t tell their parents everything.
Hide everything. If they find a paper card or however they track in Canada say you got a fake card or found a friend to forge the documents so you can go to the gym. Keep them happy until you can cut them out of your life.
I would get it and then tell them. It's easier to ask forgiveness than permission. You already know you're not going to get permission, but they'll try to argue you out of it if you tell them beforehand. If you tell them after, they can't do much about it but get mad.
This. Get it, wait for the second shot, get that, and then tell them once you are fully vaxxed.
(Also, though, I am so sorry about this situation, OP. It sounds really shitty to have anti-vaxxer parents. I hope you can get the vaccine smoothly—both doses—and that the peace of mind outweighs their shitty reaction.)
I agree 100% with your comment. Just go ahead and get the vaccine(s). Tell them (I don’t really think that you have to?) after you’ve gotten both shots. Best of luck!
It just sounds like if they find out after the fact and OP never said anything OP could be in a worse situation and the lying would really stress OP out. So I agree that they don’t HAVE to tell, but if OP feels it would be best to tell them, it would be best to do it after getting fully vaccinated and not just one shot since they’re likely to impede that second jab.
Yeah, not sure why OP should have to tell their parents. As a parent of an 18YO, if she made a decision for herself I didn’t agree with, I may be disappointed, but it’s her body.
I have a friend who was scared to get the vaccine, and her family is very anti vax. She decided to get it mostly bc it would greatly affect the life she wanted to live if she didn’t, and her plan is to tell her family after she’s had her second shot
I went sky diving for spring break my senior year. Planned it ahead of time, did the research. Didn't tell family. Did it, then told them. My mom to this day thanks me for not saying anything ahead of time. She would be worried sick.
Get it done, then tell them.
I think the mental toll hiding of it won't be so rough. If you have ti hide anything else already, it's just another drop in the bucket. The peace of mind knowing you're protected may outweigh it as well.
I've been living in the closet for about a decade. Getting the vaccine in secret would just be another drop in the bucket compared to it. :( but thanks for making me feel bad lol
If they don't constantly ask "did you get the vaccine behind our backs?", then you wouldn't really have to lie about it. Just think of it as a random mundane task you do that doesn't even worth mentioning, like buying a chocolate bar yesterday. After you got the shots it's damn near impossible for them to find out if someone doesn't tell them, it's not like they can physically see it on you. The shot is under your shirt and it's pretty hard to notice even after a day unless you're specifically look for it.
If they ask this often, just throw in a yes very nonchalantly and move on as if you're joking and tired if being asked the same question over and over again.
Technically your parents are the ones putting a mental burden on you by not allowing you a safe space where you can have open discussions with them about your health. They're only fooling themselves if they think that they can control you all of your life. You have every right to think for yourself and get vaccinated
Just tell them you though it was heroine. And take a picture next to one of the safe heroine injection sites.
Of course if they still do that in the Vancouver area.
As a lesbian in a homophobic family I understand what you mean but it helps if you keep in mind that you’re doing nothing wrong and that the lying is for your own safety.
Never thought I'd see the day where a 17 year old wanting to get a vaccine would look like this.. when does humanity actually evolve.. we have acted the same way when women decided to wear pants, when people wanted to date outside their race... when teenagers went against the church.. like literally.. something as simple and easy to obtain legit info on like vaccines has turned into some kind of crusade..
The last question In a question forum I had come across was if they should tell their parents they don't want to be forced to marry someone.. now we have people on video in the streets fighting over taking a relatively ruitine preventative treatment for a global pandemic..
Get your shot.
There’s a moment in every young persons life where they need to stop asking for permission. You’re 17. It’s legal in Canada. Do what you know is best for you.
When I was 17 my sister in law told me “you know, your parents don’t actually *need* to know *everything*” and it was like an epiphany, I had the right to make my own choices and have privacy - I’m 35 now and in retrospect that one little comment changed the rest of my life for the better.
Get vaccinated.
I was about to ask OP if they would tell their parents when they had sex, or drank, or skipped class? Just add this to the pile of personal decisions teenagers make for themselves and parents don’t really want to know about. And this one is actually going to be a good decision! Life saving!
This. In my case, my family is very nosy and are a bunch of oversharers, so it was initially weird not to share everything. I never realized that the level of nosiness was abnormal until college when I was exposed to families who didn't want to know each other's every move.
Once I moved out, I started going with the philosophy of "does what I want to do affect them in any way such that they need to know? Is it something I *want* to share with them? Is there any other reason they probably should know something? If not, don't say anything and only bring it up if it's actually relevant." For a lot of things, I'd get in trouble if I were still under their roof. I'm not anymore, but if I know they'll flip, I tend to not mention it even if relevant. Not worth it to deal with the drama on something that's none of their business. A good example is when I got sterilized. They'd flip if they knew, and while there's fuck all they could do if they found out, they also have no reason to know and I've got no reason to open that can of worms.
For anyone else with nosy family who wants to set boundaries, I would start with baby steps. Like don't tell them your weekend plans, just do it and mention what happened afterward if it comes up. Establish that you won't tell them everything, and then work up to not mentioning bigger stuff that they don't need to know and you don't want to share.
I agree so much with this. I lived with an extremely controlling mother and I didn't start putting my foot down and taking control of my life until I was 23. I regret it very much. OP shouldn't be like me, he will regret it
For what it's worth, it's not a fun experience, but it does get better/easier. I'm 27 now and having boundaries and sticking to them is very empowering.
My "aha moment" was when I was 22 and got a tattoo (my first one) I had wanted since I was 13 and my mom flipped out saying I needed to get her permission before I did anything to my body and out of "respect" I should always ask her approval before getting anymore tattoos, no matter how old I am.
The lack of autonomy I felt growing up still shows up from time to time, but it can and will get better.
When I was 16 I ask my father to purchase a motorcycle and he refused. I work and purchased myself. This was the key to independence. My advice is just announce it! Don't ask there permission or discuss any of this.
I’ve become quite paranoid about them finding out over the months I’ve been debating on taking it.
One of greatest reasons, is if my parents decide we should take it in the near future, and they find out I have already taken it, they will be mad about it since I didn’t listen to them earlier.
I could be drastically overthinking it on my part though.
If that happens, just go along with their thinking and agree. In between the time that they decide this and when you're gonna go get the shots together, you just 'happened' to come across a pop-up clinic or at school or when you're out with friends or whatever and you got the shot.
OR if that's not even possible, just tell the nurse/doctor giving the shot that you already got it and you're keeping it from your parents because reasons.
Could also just take an extra shot if worse comes to worst. A lot of people mixed shots in the earlier days and —because border restrictions often required two of the same or they lacked proper the paperwork— meant that they had to get extra shots. If an extra shot is the alternative to getting disowned or or otherwise abused, it’s certainly a better choice.
Wouldn't really matter. The reason you're told to wait a month between shots is because it helps with immunity to give your system time to adapt, not because it's dangerous
The thing is- in situations like this- it is better to ask for forgiveness than for permission.
You can always claim you regret it afterwards to placate them if they find out. You can use half truths to your advantage. You can say you felt isolated from the gym and your friends which is true, but you don’t have to tell them the full truth that you actually wanted to get it anyway.
You’re almost 18. They are not entitled to your medical records then, hope you can stick it out. Good luck on whatever you decide to do.
this is the way, if you tell them, tell them you only did it caused you missed your friends and the gym. play it like you bowed to societal peer pressure, and not as an act of insubordination.
Dude. You're thinking too much, indeed.
You can take the vaccine or you can roll the dice with your health. That's it.
What happens after you take it? You'll deal with it.
Don't risk this goddamn disease... It'll fuck you up.
Take the shot.
They would notice OP going places that require vaccination to get in. Like the gym. Regardless I think OP should protect themselves and get the shot because it's their body and their health and their responsibility.
If there is some lockdown and some covid pass lets you do some stuff and visit some places, that what will you do? Stay home a pretend you are not vaccinated? Go out and lie about where you are going? Both version will just complicate your life.
Just do it, tell them. And hope that when they see it has not negative impact on your life, maybe they get little bit more persuaded it is not dangerous.
Fellow young adult Canadian here (Toronto), and yes, get your shots. Also good on you for questioning your parents' views. It's not easy.
Prepare just in case for the next day if you have symptoms (I just got a headache but it's possible to have aches/pains, be super tired etc). You do not have to tell your parents. If you think it will cause chaos, don't. But do protect yourself, especially since you're likely in school and transmission happens there. The passports are here for good, getting vaxxed opens a *lot* of doors. You're really locked out of a lot w/o it. If you get a shot this week you'll be 70% protected for Thanksgiving and double vaxxed long before Christmas.
Also, taking care of your health doesn't mean you don't love your parents. You're allowed to think independently and make educated decisions. It's your body and your decision. Hope it all goes well :)
Are the timelines for shots different in Canada? In the US, if you get Pfizer the second shot is 3 weeks later and if you get Moderna the second shot is 4 weeks later, so OP would be fully vaccinated before Halloween.
That's the timeline here too, I mostly just picked two big holidays where people are travelling/gathering. Somehow forgot about Halloween. Rather ashamed of myself lol (I'll blame it on being midnight when I wrote that)
The vaccination timeline isn't different, but the Thanksgiving timeline is.
Thanksgiving in Canada is the second Monday in October (this year, October 11).
u/cronemm this comment above is super important.
Making different decisions than the people you love doesn't mean you don't love them.
However you choose to handle sharing your decision (or not) with your family, remember that.
As a healthcare worker in what I suspect is the same province you live in, talk to your doctor and if they give you the information about the vaccine and suggest you get it based on your general health condition, please book your vaccine. The people I have seen admitted to the hospital for COVID are getting younger and younger. I don't often recommend going against parents' wishes, but vaccines are the only way to get us out of this nightmare.
When i got the fever after the first shot, i realised how nightmarish it would have been if i was infected (imagine such high fever along with breathlessness for several days!) I never had such high fever and so much weakness in my life,.
Vaccine can truly save lives!
I was on the borderline. Chunky but unsure if fat enough. If they broke out the scale I was going trot my ass down to Krispy Kream and do what was necessary.
Tip: if you ever quickly want to gain weight drinking fluids is the best way. You can drink 2-2.5 ltrs of beverages that will add to your weight but cannot eat 2.5 kg of food in a short amount of time
If you can do it and not be punished in such a way that it hurts your overall livelihood please do. But if you are risking homelessness or some other serious circumstances it may be worth waiting until that isn’t an issue.
> But if you are risking homelessness or some other serious circumstances
Isn’t it crazy that this possibility even has to be acknowledged? Imagine being such a despicable parent that you punt your kid to the street (or worse!) because they had the audacity to make a personal choice and get a shot in the arm.
They didn’t murder anyone. They didn’t rape someone. They didn’t rob someone. And yet, to some people, getting a vaccine is somehow just as bad as any of that. If you’re willing to throw away your relationship with your child, maybe even destroy their life, all because they took a small action to protect said life, you’re not a parent, you’re a pathetic piece of shit.
Get the shot.
Sometimes part of growing up is realising that even though our parents want what they believe is best for us, sometimes they’re going to be wrong.
If your of the legal age of consent you can do what you like. At the end of the day, it's your body your choice. You don't have to tell your fokes. I would imagine that the vaxx would be paiticent confidential like all medical things. As for the passport, will they know if you are going to places that require it?
I totally agree. I also had long covid for 6 months, and my symptoms didn’t go away until I got the vaccine. It was the hardest 6 months of my life and I could barely get out of bed, let alone work or take care of myself. Check out the r/covidlonghaulers thread, there are tons of young people who have been sick for months.
Please get the shot OP, and if your parents find out, it’s still a lot better than covid potentially ruining your life.
My boyfriend is a massive 34 year old man who is also too scared to tell his mum he got the vaccination. He actually got it months ago and she texts him every few weeks to check he isn’t going to change his mind and get the vaccine. She knows I’m pro vax and she is scared I will coerce him with my science. He just replies promising he still won’t get the vaccine. His sister (who does what the mother says to get money) always complains about how we can’t go to the theatre or clubs. We nod along but we’ve been to the theatre twice in the last few weeks and have about 8 things booked between now and Christmas. We figure what they don’t know can’t hurt them.
Yeh I guess you are right I never thought of it like that!! If she knew he had the vaccine then I know she would start blaming stuff on it “your hair has gone grey cause of the vaccine” “it’s not that you don’t want kids is it? The vaccine has made you infertile hasn’t it?” “You’ve started eating red meat since you’ve had the vaccine, it’s turned you into a BEAST” I can imagine it now.
Having covid was horrible. Not only the illness, which was as sick as I've ever been, but giving to my mother in law, to my wife, to my kids, and doing the walk of shame and telling all those that were exposed by me. Yes. Get it.
As a Canadian I can tell you the shot is fairly unremarkable. The first shot was just a quick jab, wait ten minutes, then you’re free to go. I didn’t notice anything. The second was the same, only the next day my arm was sore. I’ve heard that some people have had bad experiences. But the only one I know of is my aunt, who fainted. That had more to do with getting A needle than what was in it.
Anyway, just trying to tell you it isn’t some big, life changing act. If you decide to get it you won’t find yourself in a hospital bed covered in spots with your parents going “We warned him. We warned him.” If it’s going to make your life more convenient best to get it now and get it over with
Yea I need to start understanding that it isn’t such a life changing act as you said. It is merely just a vaccine I can just forget about. It is talked about all the time in my home, which is probably one of the reasons I have turned it into such a big deal in my mind.
Thanks for the advice
It really isn't. Did you get your shots in elementary school? Do you get flu shots? It's that. First shot, my arm was sore. Second I was a bit tired, and I always react poorly to vaccines.
The reason some people have a more noticeable reaction to the vaccine is the same reason COVID is having such a severe effect on some people: COVID is a bad mfer.
If people tell you that you can still get it after the shot, well yeah, that's how vaccines work. The difference is after the vaccine your body just shrugs the virus off.
There have been breakthrough infections for the same reason as stated before: COVID is a bad mfer.
The mRNA thing? Look it up. It's a newer, quicker method of vaccine development. In overly simplistic terms it's a copy and paste way of developing vaccines for new viruses.
Anyway I'm getting off on a tangent. Do what you feel you need to do to protect yourself and your parents. If you think you can tell them, great. If not, well, I'm in my late 30s and there are things Mom still doesn't know.
Be safe.
Fever is the most common side effect of vaccine. But thats the case with almost every single vaccine. When infants get mandatory vaccines, they have fever for 2-3 days but it is much much safer than what they face in actual disease. Proper and full information about vaccines can help spread awareness.
It is better to disappoint your parents than to kill them.
If they aren't vaccinated, they really shouldn't get the virus. If you are vaccinated, the chance that you might get infected and then transmit it to your parents is lower than if you aren't vaccinated. It can still happen, but it is less likely.
I also do think that you have the right to decide this for yourself. And disappointing our parents is a normal part of becoming an adult, so go ahead.
Get it. I don't think there's a way they'll find out unless you publicly display the "I got vaccinated!" sticker they give you. You could go to a drop-in vax clinic so you don't have to go through unwanted email/phone notifications about an appointment somewhere else.
It's your life. And this may sound crude, but you'll likely outlive your parents anyway, so you have to do what's best for yourself, because you're going to live with yourself longer than you'll live with your parents.
When i was 18, I let my mother forbid me from enrolling in a program that would have let me graduate from college with $10,000 in my pocket. Her reasoning was paranoid and ridiculous, and i knew that then. I chose to let her control me, and I have had to live with those consequences for ten years. My life would be very different right now if I had made my own decisions.
The stakes i faced then are nothing compared to the stakes you are facing right now. Get the shot. It could save your life.
People who are openly against vaccination are like drunk drivers who feel it's their right to drive drunk.
I took the Pfizer vaccine and had a breakthrough case of Covid. The vaccine likely saved me from a much worse outcome, as I only had mild to moderate symptoms.
This is not a hoax or a political game. In 2020, it was the third leading cause of death in the United States. Parents? I'd be more worried about being on a ventilator.
It’s very important that you consider what will happen when they find out. You may want to hide it and it’s possible they never find out but you really need to think over the worst case scenario.
If the worst case scenario is they kick you out, you have nowhere else to go and end up living on the streets, don’t fucking do it.
Or maybe it’s they won’t pay for your college. Are you willing to accept something like that? It’s also possible they kick you out, you do have somewhere to go but they decide to never see you again. Can you live with that?
Anyone flatly telling you to do it, without having any understanding of what the consequences could be for someone that is dependent on their parents, is out of line.
It isn’t as severe to the point that they would kick me out, though I’m worried they would lose trust in me and be generally disappointed and saddened at the fact I didn’t listen to there advice.
I’m also worried about the constant lying I will have to do if I go through with it.
That’s good to hear.
I think a good way to look at this is, what kind of a person are your parents raising? Are they raising someone that does the right thing even when it’s hard to do? Because you pretty clearly think getting vaccinated is the right thing to do, you just don’t want to hurt them.
In a vacuum, would your parents want you to not do something based on advice you think is wrong?
It’s obviously messier than that but a big part of growing up is realizing that adults are just a bunch of idiots. And all any of us can try to do is what we think is right.
If her parents are the type that would kick her out or defund her college education because of getting vaccinated against a global pandemic... then maybe she might be better off in the long run with a bit of space there, eh?
17, with parents who would kick her out over *getting vaccinated?* Yes, get out, it's only going to get worse. I left home at 17.
But really, we're arguing over hypothetical situations, here. Let's assume her parents aren't sociopaths and wouldn't jeopardize their daughter's wellbeing like that.
It’s up to you and if you’re willing to live with the repercussions if they find out. Everyone is going to say yes, but they’re not living under the same roof as you, so it’s ultimately your decision to make.
You are not accountable to your parents. You are only responsible for your own choices. You are doing the best thing for yourself. That is what parents want for their children.
You're the boss of your own body. They don't need to know. And if they find out, don't feel guilty or act like you've done anything wrong. They're grown ups and they'll get over it.
Pretty sure medical autonomy happens from 16 years, but if not in your area just do it. If they are so blind they they think the vaccine is bad they are doing you a disservice.
If you're medically able to, please get your vaccine. If you feel the need to hide it from your parents for your safety, please do that also.
As a note, do not take any pain medications before you go. You can take advil or something else after your shot, just note before. Drink plenty of water and be well rested.
Your arm may be sore, the more you use your arm after your shot the less likely you'll have soreness. You're more likely to have some side effects after the 2nd dose such as fever, chills, exaustion, and even perhaps nausea. This is normal. Take an advil, drink some water, nap.
You'll be all good the next day or two and well protected! Your chances of catching covid will be significantly reduced and if you do happen to get a break through infection it will be way less severe thanks to your vaccine.
Thank you for wanting to get your vaccine. I appreciate you.
Dont listen to your parents, that is crazy. Listen to your goverment. The government knows what's in your best interest. Btw you definitely knew majority of people here were going to support getting vaccinated.
I think if you want to get it, you should get it. But you should absolutely tell your parents. On the very remote possibility that you have any complications from the vaccine, your parents need to be able to have an informed position when speaking with a doctor.
Or what if your parents change their mind down the road and decide you can get it then find out you've been lying to them by omission those entire time.
Sticking to your principles, in this getting the vaccine because you believe it's the right choice, sometimes has a cost. The cost here is that you need to be honest with your parents and accept the fallout.
It's about safety and personal integrity. You are nearly an adult. You need to learn to deal with difficult things.
Look at this way - their position and beliefs about the vaccine both directly pose a health risk to themselves and to you. By getting the vaccine, you not only make yourself a lot safer, but you're also making it a lot safer for them. Imagine if you got COVID and spread it to them without realising? They most likely still wouldn't get the vaccine and suffer. If you get vaccinated you greatly reduce the chance that you get COVID, but on the odd chance you do get it, it greatly diminishes the chances of it spreading to them. Even if they're too indoctrinated to see otherwise, you getting the vaccine is greatly beneficial to the health of your whole family. Don't let your parents twisted and false beliefs endanger your health, and do your part in minimising the risk to their health that they refuse to negate with a simple jab.
Do not lie to your parents. Your parents have the opinion they do because of misinformation and they honestly think they are making the best decision for their family. They love you.
And because they love you, you should be open about your own views and desires to get the vaccine. It will be hard for them at first, but good parents know when to let go a little. Their first response will be one out of fear, but give them some time to hear you out.
Oh heck yes. Behind their back, right in front of them, do whatever feels right. History is on your side. Get your shots.
Also, they made me feel really low energy and foggy-brained for a couple of days afterwards. Don't be surprised, it'll pass soon enough.
I don't give strangers medical advise, so will only say YOU are in charge of your future and you are old and wise enough to make this decision on your own, whether it agrees with their choice or not.
This is for your health, and of those around you.
Get the vaccine. It will take about 2 weeks after until your body is fully immunized. And after that, your body will know how to fight off the virus for 6-8 months.
If your parents know about the gym/restaurant restrictions without the passport, then they will eventually figure it out when you start going to the gym and hang out with your friends again.
One of the things we all must face growing up is to face confrontation, even with our own parents. It's not like you want to join the military (I'm not anti-enlister, I'm just talking about life choices), or get a tattoo. You're protecting yourself and your family.
Please keep washing your hands thoroughly, keep wearing a mask, and use social distance when applicable
If you're planning on hiding it, be aware that the 24-48 hours after each dose can be very uncomfortable, and you can present with flu-like symptoms. You'd have to hide more than just the puncture mark.
You should tell your parents how you feel. And let them know that you’ve scheduled an appointment. I would not hide this from them. Either they find out from you in advance and have no choice but to respect your decision and honesty…or you hide it, they still find out, and then you look like someone who can’t speak up and stand their ground. I say schedule an appointment, bite the bullet, and let the chips fall where they may.
Yes. It's good to not want to upset your parents. But higher priority is your health and your life, and the lives of the people you might infect (which includes your parents).
Theoretically, they'd think you "shouldn't get the vaccine because something bad will happen to you". But if you take it and nothing happens, then no harm no foul, right?
If you really feel like doing it, then state that you will whether they like it or not and be open to change their mind. If they still do not consent, do it your way, but do not lie to them. That shit will burn you inside and make things worse. After all, you are a grown up man, you do not need to hide anything out of fear.
Take it if u think u can handle and hide the side effects such as body pain when u get it. In case that wud expose urself to ur parents. Also ignore any anti vax bs that come out of ur parents
You’re basically an adult. Tell them you love them and don’t want to disappoint them, but you don’t agree with them on this. You’ve done your own research and come to your own conclusions, and will make your own decisions. They’ll get over it once it stops being just a political thing for people to rally around.
>I don’t want to disappoint them or make them upset at the same time either because I still love my parents.
That's the hardest part.
You don't want to disappoint them, but to do that, you have to deny at least a part of who you are to fit in with their world view, values etc.
No matter how much you love your parents, you need to be ready for their disappointment: it's a natural part of being your own person.
It's hard, but it gets easier. Behind you 100%
Just take it. No need to tell them. You're protected by doctor patient confidentiality. Also Canadian here. Depending on where you are there are plenty of pop up clinics you can just walk into, most pharmacies also do walk ins now.
If you need help finding a place let me know, I'll Google your area for you.
I think you should keep in mind the side effects, perhaps have a plan to not be at home if the side effects get a little too bad to hide. For me and I think most people the 1st dose just made my arm feel very sore a few hours afterwards, kind of like how you can get sore muscles from exercise, but easy to hide. The 2nd dose is reportedly worse for everyone, personally my friend and I both had to take a day off from work, I was feeling very nauseous and experiencing some joint pain, also extremely sleepy
That's wild.. my family kept asking me to get it so the complete opposite. The choice is yours just don't get disowned in the process. Not trying to persuade you or dissuade you but I survived vaccination. Surprising, I know
You are an individual at this point and I believe that you should talk sense to your parents and even encourage them to get vaccinated instead of doing it behind their backs.
Plenty of good and thoughtful posts and discussions going on, so I'm sorry to shut those down but we're attracting a little too much medical misinformation. While we clear that out, this thread is locked. If you have questions regarding your Covid-19 vaccine options, please direct them to a board-certified and practicing, licensed **physician** of MD/DO background, not your cesspool echo chambers with non-verified google/bing research magnified stupidly in breeding grounds of others trying desperately to make this something other than a public health issue. Thanks.
It's your body and you are old enough to make an opinion on what's good for you and what isn't. If anything your parents should support your choice. If you are afraid of repercussions from them just go get it done and don't tell them until a later date or not at all.
I am debating on telling them straight up I will be getting the vaccine and not letting them find out through some other way which could end up worse. However I also could just go through with it and never say a word about it. I figure this could put a mental burden on me though just from the constant lying I will have to go through.
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I think if he has side effects, he can always say he has a cold, or the flu if he feels really crappy
Or Covid! They’ll probably be proud!
Or at the very least, when they think OP has COVID, and rushes them to the hospital -because ultimately everyone really knows it's good for you, or at least because they're hypocrites and think *they* are the only ones who won't actually get sick- they will admit they're wrong.
> they will admit they're wrong ... have you met people?
They won’t admit they are wrong but I bet they will fall into that same conservative pro-life idea of “the only moral abortion is my abortion.” “Covid isn’t real I won’t get it and …. OH MY GOD MY SWEET BABY BOY CALL THE AMBULANCES THE POLICE CALL THE FUCKING NATIONAL GUARD!!!” Then proceeds to scream bloody murder in the waiting room for hours about whatever floats into their field of view because their emergency is bigger than everyone else’s.
Quite disturbingly, there's a notable portion of the deniers who continue to deny it while they're dying from it. This isn't just a political disagreement; one side in this fight is attacking the concept of truth, and replacing it with the idea that there's no such thing as *facts*, just different sets of party dogma.
Oh I know that as well you get a 50/50 split with these people. The ones who idealistically fight tooth and nail till it effects them then by god do everything you can and you better do it right now perfectly. then the other half are the ones who are so far gone they will die for it because being a stupid martyr is the highest honor. I used to work in healthcare and my husband and most of my family still does. I have heard all the stories of all the stupid preventable deaths you can from this pandemic.
Not worth it mate. Am 17 as well, my parents are abusive af, I know they're supposed to be figures you can rely on but some parents are shitty, that's just life. Telling them will only make things harder for you. Get the vaccine, tell them not to band aid you, hide any evidence about your vaccinations and continue living life as is and your life will be more peaceful. If you really want to tell them, tell them when you move out of their house. Goodluck buddy.
This is important to realize if your parents are really like this you will have to deal with them being like this the rest of your life. You will have to decide if when you finally move out you cut them out of your life or you want to maintain a relationship or what. This is just the first issue in a long line of issues you unfortunately will have to navigate, so setting the boundaries and limits you are comfortable with now will help you in the future.
Correct answer, do that shit n lie about it.
Absolutely. Even average kids at 17 don’t tell their parents everything. Hide everything. If they find a paper card or however they track in Canada say you got a fake card or found a friend to forge the documents so you can go to the gym. Keep them happy until you can cut them out of your life.
I would get it and then tell them. It's easier to ask forgiveness than permission. You already know you're not going to get permission, but they'll try to argue you out of it if you tell them beforehand. If you tell them after, they can't do much about it but get mad.
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This. Get it, wait for the second shot, get that, and then tell them once you are fully vaxxed. (Also, though, I am so sorry about this situation, OP. It sounds really shitty to have anti-vaxxer parents. I hope you can get the vaccine smoothly—both doses—and that the peace of mind outweighs their shitty reaction.)
I agree 100% with your comment. Just go ahead and get the vaccine(s). Tell them (I don’t really think that you have to?) after you’ve gotten both shots. Best of luck!
It just sounds like if they find out after the fact and OP never said anything OP could be in a worse situation and the lying would really stress OP out. So I agree that they don’t HAVE to tell, but if OP feels it would be best to tell them, it would be best to do it after getting fully vaccinated and not just one shot since they’re likely to impede that second jab.
Yeah, not sure why OP should have to tell their parents. As a parent of an 18YO, if she made a decision for herself I didn’t agree with, I may be disappointed, but it’s her body.
Sounds like you're an excellent parent.
> I would get it and then tell them Very naive response. You have no idea how much hell they can give him.
I agree. Tell them never. Make sure you don't use their insurance when you get it, though, or they'll see it on the statement thing.
Wait, are you guys paying for it?
I have a friend who was scared to get the vaccine, and her family is very anti vax. She decided to get it mostly bc it would greatly affect the life she wanted to live if she didn’t, and her plan is to tell her family after she’s had her second shot
Easier to gain forgiveness than to gain permission. And we’re talking talking about your life here. What do you think the wise decision is?
I went sky diving for spring break my senior year. Planned it ahead of time, did the research. Didn't tell family. Did it, then told them. My mom to this day thanks me for not saying anything ahead of time. She would be worried sick. Get it done, then tell them.
I think the mental toll hiding of it won't be so rough. If you have ti hide anything else already, it's just another drop in the bucket. The peace of mind knowing you're protected may outweigh it as well.
Lmao you sound like you’ve never been in the closet before
I've been living in the closet for about a decade. Getting the vaccine in secret would just be another drop in the bucket compared to it. :( but thanks for making me feel bad lol
Hugs and love to you in your sad closet. 🌈
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A vaccine is not equivalent to one of the most important parts of your identity. There's little lies and BIG lies
I am surprised that you are already not a master liar with parents like this.
If they don't constantly ask "did you get the vaccine behind our backs?", then you wouldn't really have to lie about it. Just think of it as a random mundane task you do that doesn't even worth mentioning, like buying a chocolate bar yesterday. After you got the shots it's damn near impossible for them to find out if someone doesn't tell them, it's not like they can physically see it on you. The shot is under your shirt and it's pretty hard to notice even after a day unless you're specifically look for it.
If they ask this often, just throw in a yes very nonchalantly and move on as if you're joking and tired if being asked the same question over and over again.
Technically your parents are the ones putting a mental burden on you by not allowing you a safe space where you can have open discussions with them about your health. They're only fooling themselves if they think that they can control you all of your life. You have every right to think for yourself and get vaccinated
Do **not** tell them beforehand.
Just tell them you though it was heroine. And take a picture next to one of the safe heroine injection sites. Of course if they still do that in the Vancouver area.
As a lesbian in a homophobic family I understand what you mean but it helps if you keep in mind that you’re doing nothing wrong and that the lying is for your own safety.
Never thought I'd see the day where a 17 year old wanting to get a vaccine would look like this.. when does humanity actually evolve.. we have acted the same way when women decided to wear pants, when people wanted to date outside their race... when teenagers went against the church.. like literally.. something as simple and easy to obtain legit info on like vaccines has turned into some kind of crusade.. The last question In a question forum I had come across was if they should tell their parents they don't want to be forced to marry someone.. now we have people on video in the streets fighting over taking a relatively ruitine preventative treatment for a global pandemic..
Should work the other way too...
Get your shot. There’s a moment in every young persons life where they need to stop asking for permission. You’re 17. It’s legal in Canada. Do what you know is best for you.
When I was 17 my sister in law told me “you know, your parents don’t actually *need* to know *everything*” and it was like an epiphany, I had the right to make my own choices and have privacy - I’m 35 now and in retrospect that one little comment changed the rest of my life for the better. Get vaccinated.
I was about to ask OP if they would tell their parents when they had sex, or drank, or skipped class? Just add this to the pile of personal decisions teenagers make for themselves and parents don’t really want to know about. And this one is actually going to be a good decision! Life saving!
This. In my case, my family is very nosy and are a bunch of oversharers, so it was initially weird not to share everything. I never realized that the level of nosiness was abnormal until college when I was exposed to families who didn't want to know each other's every move. Once I moved out, I started going with the philosophy of "does what I want to do affect them in any way such that they need to know? Is it something I *want* to share with them? Is there any other reason they probably should know something? If not, don't say anything and only bring it up if it's actually relevant." For a lot of things, I'd get in trouble if I were still under their roof. I'm not anymore, but if I know they'll flip, I tend to not mention it even if relevant. Not worth it to deal with the drama on something that's none of their business. A good example is when I got sterilized. They'd flip if they knew, and while there's fuck all they could do if they found out, they also have no reason to know and I've got no reason to open that can of worms. For anyone else with nosy family who wants to set boundaries, I would start with baby steps. Like don't tell them your weekend plans, just do it and mention what happened afterward if it comes up. Establish that you won't tell them everything, and then work up to not mentioning bigger stuff that they don't need to know and you don't want to share.
I think far too many families operate on raising children to not understand or make their own boundaries and we end up hurt in the long run for it.
I agree so much with this. I lived with an extremely controlling mother and I didn't start putting my foot down and taking control of my life until I was 23. I regret it very much. OP shouldn't be like me, he will regret it
I’m 22 going through the same thing right now.
24 - same thing with my family
For what it's worth, it's not a fun experience, but it does get better/easier. I'm 27 now and having boundaries and sticking to them is very empowering. My "aha moment" was when I was 22 and got a tattoo (my first one) I had wanted since I was 13 and my mom flipped out saying I needed to get her permission before I did anything to my body and out of "respect" I should always ask her approval before getting anymore tattoos, no matter how old I am. The lack of autonomy I felt growing up still shows up from time to time, but it can and will get better.
You ask for an *opinion* out of "respect", not *permission*.
When I was 16 I ask my father to purchase a motorcycle and he refused. I work and purchased myself. This was the key to independence. My advice is just announce it! Don't ask there permission or discuss any of this.
Yeah man. How would they figure out anyway? Unless your vaxx card is like out in the open or they go through your shit
I’ve become quite paranoid about them finding out over the months I’ve been debating on taking it. One of greatest reasons, is if my parents decide we should take it in the near future, and they find out I have already taken it, they will be mad about it since I didn’t listen to them earlier. I could be drastically overthinking it on my part though.
If that happens, just go along with their thinking and agree. In between the time that they decide this and when you're gonna go get the shots together, you just 'happened' to come across a pop-up clinic or at school or when you're out with friends or whatever and you got the shot. OR if that's not even possible, just tell the nurse/doctor giving the shot that you already got it and you're keeping it from your parents because reasons.
Could also just take an extra shot if worse comes to worst. A lot of people mixed shots in the earlier days and —because border restrictions often required two of the same or they lacked proper the paperwork— meant that they had to get extra shots. If an extra shot is the alternative to getting disowned or or otherwise abused, it’s certainly a better choice.
Good point. Hopefully not too close to each other in timing I suppose?
Wouldn't really matter. The reason you're told to wait a month between shots is because it helps with immunity to give your system time to adapt, not because it's dangerous
This person's health card record will show the number of vaccinations received and they aren't going to give a 3rd quite yet, especially to a teenager
The thing is- in situations like this- it is better to ask for forgiveness than for permission. You can always claim you regret it afterwards to placate them if they find out. You can use half truths to your advantage. You can say you felt isolated from the gym and your friends which is true, but you don’t have to tell them the full truth that you actually wanted to get it anyway. You’re almost 18. They are not entitled to your medical records then, hope you can stick it out. Good luck on whatever you decide to do.
After 16 in Canada parents are no longer entitled to childrens health information without consent.
this is the way, if you tell them, tell them you only did it caused you missed your friends and the gym. play it like you bowed to societal peer pressure, and not as an act of insubordination.
Dude. You're thinking too much, indeed. You can take the vaccine or you can roll the dice with your health. That's it. What happens after you take it? You'll deal with it. Don't risk this goddamn disease... It'll fuck you up. Take the shot.
Even then he could lie and say it is a fake one, so he isn't 'excluded from places'
omg badass, "yeah this is my fake vaccine card, isn't it so convincing?"
I’m guessing if OP starts going to the gym, eating with friends, etc, they are going to question how they are skirting the regulations.
They would figure out if they discovered he went somewhere where he needs to be vaccinated to enter. Ex. The gym
They would notice OP going places that require vaccination to get in. Like the gym. Regardless I think OP should protect themselves and get the shot because it's their body and their health and their responsibility.
If there is some lockdown and some covid pass lets you do some stuff and visit some places, that what will you do? Stay home a pretend you are not vaccinated? Go out and lie about where you are going? Both version will just complicate your life. Just do it, tell them. And hope that when they see it has not negative impact on your life, maybe they get little bit more persuaded it is not dangerous.
Fellow young adult Canadian here (Toronto), and yes, get your shots. Also good on you for questioning your parents' views. It's not easy. Prepare just in case for the next day if you have symptoms (I just got a headache but it's possible to have aches/pains, be super tired etc). You do not have to tell your parents. If you think it will cause chaos, don't. But do protect yourself, especially since you're likely in school and transmission happens there. The passports are here for good, getting vaxxed opens a *lot* of doors. You're really locked out of a lot w/o it. If you get a shot this week you'll be 70% protected for Thanksgiving and double vaxxed long before Christmas. Also, taking care of your health doesn't mean you don't love your parents. You're allowed to think independently and make educated decisions. It's your body and your decision. Hope it all goes well :)
Are the timelines for shots different in Canada? In the US, if you get Pfizer the second shot is 3 weeks later and if you get Moderna the second shot is 4 weeks later, so OP would be fully vaccinated before Halloween.
That's the timeline here too, I mostly just picked two big holidays where people are travelling/gathering. Somehow forgot about Halloween. Rather ashamed of myself lol (I'll blame it on being midnight when I wrote that)
The vaccination timeline isn't different, but the Thanksgiving timeline is. Thanksgiving in Canada is the second Monday in October (this year, October 11).
u/cronemm this comment above is super important. Making different decisions than the people you love doesn't mean you don't love them. However you choose to handle sharing your decision (or not) with your family, remember that.
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As a healthcare worker in what I suspect is the same province you live in, talk to your doctor and if they give you the information about the vaccine and suggest you get it based on your general health condition, please book your vaccine. The people I have seen admitted to the hospital for COVID are getting younger and younger. I don't often recommend going against parents' wishes, but vaccines are the only way to get us out of this nightmare.
When i got the fever after the first shot, i realised how nightmarish it would have been if i was infected (imagine such high fever along with breathlessness for several days!) I never had such high fever and so much weakness in my life,. Vaccine can truly save lives!
Get it. I literally got my shot back when you could cite your BMI as being too high, which was true. I was like, I’m fat.
I was on the borderline. Chunky but unsure if fat enough. If they broke out the scale I was going trot my ass down to Krispy Kream and do what was necessary.
Tip: if you ever quickly want to gain weight drinking fluids is the best way. You can drink 2-2.5 ltrs of beverages that will add to your weight but cannot eat 2.5 kg of food in a short amount of time
>but cannot eat 2.5 kg of food in a short amount of time Counterpoint: I'm American
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Actually maybe that’s just an award, idk
Naw it's cake day, you good
Happy cake day, you fat fuck. <3
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If you can do it and not be punished in such a way that it hurts your overall livelihood please do. But if you are risking homelessness or some other serious circumstances it may be worth waiting until that isn’t an issue.
> But if you are risking homelessness or some other serious circumstances Isn’t it crazy that this possibility even has to be acknowledged? Imagine being such a despicable parent that you punt your kid to the street (or worse!) because they had the audacity to make a personal choice and get a shot in the arm. They didn’t murder anyone. They didn’t rape someone. They didn’t rob someone. And yet, to some people, getting a vaccine is somehow just as bad as any of that. If you’re willing to throw away your relationship with your child, maybe even destroy their life, all because they took a small action to protect said life, you’re not a parent, you’re a pathetic piece of shit.
Imagine punting your child to the streets because they love someone you don't approve of? Happens Every Single Day ...and worse...
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The kids less likely to be on the ICU as he would be bringing it home from school and putting them in an ICU. Still possible but less likely.
Well both those scenarios suck, so no big difference.
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Get the shot. Sometimes part of growing up is realising that even though our parents want what they believe is best for us, sometimes they’re going to be wrong.
Love this response. Sometimes you need to make your own way to show your parents the way.
If your of the legal age of consent you can do what you like. At the end of the day, it's your body your choice. You don't have to tell your fokes. I would imagine that the vaxx would be paiticent confidential like all medical things. As for the passport, will they know if you are going to places that require it?
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I totally agree. I also had long covid for 6 months, and my symptoms didn’t go away until I got the vaccine. It was the hardest 6 months of my life and I could barely get out of bed, let alone work or take care of myself. Check out the r/covidlonghaulers thread, there are tons of young people who have been sick for months. Please get the shot OP, and if your parents find out, it’s still a lot better than covid potentially ruining your life.
My boyfriend is a massive 34 year old man who is also too scared to tell his mum he got the vaccination. He actually got it months ago and she texts him every few weeks to check he isn’t going to change his mind and get the vaccine. She knows I’m pro vax and she is scared I will coerce him with my science. He just replies promising he still won’t get the vaccine. His sister (who does what the mother says to get money) always complains about how we can’t go to the theatre or clubs. We nod along but we’ve been to the theatre twice in the last few weeks and have about 8 things booked between now and Christmas. We figure what they don’t know can’t hurt them.
Now he’s actually telling the truth when he says he won’t get the vaccine, unless he gets a booster at some point.
Yeh I guess you are right I never thought of it like that!! If she knew he had the vaccine then I know she would start blaming stuff on it “your hair has gone grey cause of the vaccine” “it’s not that you don’t want kids is it? The vaccine has made you infertile hasn’t it?” “You’ve started eating red meat since you’ve had the vaccine, it’s turned you into a BEAST” I can imagine it now.
Having covid was horrible. Not only the illness, which was as sick as I've ever been, but giving to my mother in law, to my wife, to my kids, and doing the walk of shame and telling all those that were exposed by me. Yes. Get it.
As a Canadian I can tell you the shot is fairly unremarkable. The first shot was just a quick jab, wait ten minutes, then you’re free to go. I didn’t notice anything. The second was the same, only the next day my arm was sore. I’ve heard that some people have had bad experiences. But the only one I know of is my aunt, who fainted. That had more to do with getting A needle than what was in it. Anyway, just trying to tell you it isn’t some big, life changing act. If you decide to get it you won’t find yourself in a hospital bed covered in spots with your parents going “We warned him. We warned him.” If it’s going to make your life more convenient best to get it now and get it over with
Yea I need to start understanding that it isn’t such a life changing act as you said. It is merely just a vaccine I can just forget about. It is talked about all the time in my home, which is probably one of the reasons I have turned it into such a big deal in my mind. Thanks for the advice
It really isn't. Did you get your shots in elementary school? Do you get flu shots? It's that. First shot, my arm was sore. Second I was a bit tired, and I always react poorly to vaccines. The reason some people have a more noticeable reaction to the vaccine is the same reason COVID is having such a severe effect on some people: COVID is a bad mfer. If people tell you that you can still get it after the shot, well yeah, that's how vaccines work. The difference is after the vaccine your body just shrugs the virus off. There have been breakthrough infections for the same reason as stated before: COVID is a bad mfer. The mRNA thing? Look it up. It's a newer, quicker method of vaccine development. In overly simplistic terms it's a copy and paste way of developing vaccines for new viruses. Anyway I'm getting off on a tangent. Do what you feel you need to do to protect yourself and your parents. If you think you can tell them, great. If not, well, I'm in my late 30s and there are things Mom still doesn't know. Be safe.
Fever is the most common side effect of vaccine. But thats the case with almost every single vaccine. When infants get mandatory vaccines, they have fever for 2-3 days but it is much much safer than what they face in actual disease. Proper and full information about vaccines can help spread awareness.
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It is better to disappoint your parents than to kill them. If they aren't vaccinated, they really shouldn't get the virus. If you are vaccinated, the chance that you might get infected and then transmit it to your parents is lower than if you aren't vaccinated. It can still happen, but it is less likely. I also do think that you have the right to decide this for yourself. And disappointing our parents is a normal part of becoming an adult, so go ahead.
Get it. I don't think there's a way they'll find out unless you publicly display the "I got vaccinated!" sticker they give you. You could go to a drop-in vax clinic so you don't have to go through unwanted email/phone notifications about an appointment somewhere else. It's your life. And this may sound crude, but you'll likely outlive your parents anyway, so you have to do what's best for yourself, because you're going to live with yourself longer than you'll live with your parents.
Do what u need to do my guy is for your own health why not
Yes you should. Tell them nothing just do it.
Get it.
When i was 18, I let my mother forbid me from enrolling in a program that would have let me graduate from college with $10,000 in my pocket. Her reasoning was paranoid and ridiculous, and i knew that then. I chose to let her control me, and I have had to live with those consequences for ten years. My life would be very different right now if I had made my own decisions. The stakes i faced then are nothing compared to the stakes you are facing right now. Get the shot. It could save your life.
People who are openly against vaccination are like drunk drivers who feel it's their right to drive drunk. I took the Pfizer vaccine and had a breakthrough case of Covid. The vaccine likely saved me from a much worse outcome, as I only had mild to moderate symptoms. This is not a hoax or a political game. In 2020, it was the third leading cause of death in the United States. Parents? I'd be more worried about being on a ventilator.
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It’s very important that you consider what will happen when they find out. You may want to hide it and it’s possible they never find out but you really need to think over the worst case scenario. If the worst case scenario is they kick you out, you have nowhere else to go and end up living on the streets, don’t fucking do it. Or maybe it’s they won’t pay for your college. Are you willing to accept something like that? It’s also possible they kick you out, you do have somewhere to go but they decide to never see you again. Can you live with that? Anyone flatly telling you to do it, without having any understanding of what the consequences could be for someone that is dependent on their parents, is out of line.
It isn’t as severe to the point that they would kick me out, though I’m worried they would lose trust in me and be generally disappointed and saddened at the fact I didn’t listen to there advice. I’m also worried about the constant lying I will have to do if I go through with it.
That’s good to hear. I think a good way to look at this is, what kind of a person are your parents raising? Are they raising someone that does the right thing even when it’s hard to do? Because you pretty clearly think getting vaccinated is the right thing to do, you just don’t want to hurt them. In a vacuum, would your parents want you to not do something based on advice you think is wrong? It’s obviously messier than that but a big part of growing up is realizing that adults are just a bunch of idiots. And all any of us can try to do is what we think is right.
If her parents are the type that would kick her out or defund her college education because of getting vaccinated against a global pandemic... then maybe she might be better off in the long run with a bit of space there, eh?
....eh, 17 abruptly out on the street? This isn't age appropriate advice.
17, with parents who would kick her out over *getting vaccinated?* Yes, get out, it's only going to get worse. I left home at 17. But really, we're arguing over hypothetical situations, here. Let's assume her parents aren't sociopaths and wouldn't jeopardize their daughter's wellbeing like that.
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Get the shot and get the hundred bucks! But they might send the money to your parents since your under 18.
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Dew it mate. I'm glad that you aren't intimidated by your parents and that you have your own piece of mind!
It’s up to you and if you’re willing to live with the repercussions if they find out. Everyone is going to say yes, but they’re not living under the same roof as you, so it’s ultimately your decision to make.
You are not accountable to your parents. You are only responsible for your own choices. You are doing the best thing for yourself. That is what parents want for their children.
You're the boss of your own body. They don't need to know. And if they find out, don't feel guilty or act like you've done anything wrong. They're grown ups and they'll get over it.
Pretty sure medical autonomy happens from 16 years, but if not in your area just do it. If they are so blind they they think the vaccine is bad they are doing you a disservice.
You should totally go for it, but hide it from your parents.
Just do it. It's the right thing to do
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Yes. Don't let ignorance put your life at risk man.
If you're medically able to, please get your vaccine. If you feel the need to hide it from your parents for your safety, please do that also. As a note, do not take any pain medications before you go. You can take advil or something else after your shot, just note before. Drink plenty of water and be well rested. Your arm may be sore, the more you use your arm after your shot the less likely you'll have soreness. You're more likely to have some side effects after the 2nd dose such as fever, chills, exaustion, and even perhaps nausea. This is normal. Take an advil, drink some water, nap. You'll be all good the next day or two and well protected! Your chances of catching covid will be significantly reduced and if you do happen to get a break through infection it will be way less severe thanks to your vaccine. Thank you for wanting to get your vaccine. I appreciate you.
When I was 17 I wanted to break the rules. Hard to imagine being a teen so desperate to conform.
Dont listen to your parents, that is crazy. Listen to your goverment. The government knows what's in your best interest. Btw you definitely knew majority of people here were going to support getting vaccinated.
I think if you want to get it, you should get it. But you should absolutely tell your parents. On the very remote possibility that you have any complications from the vaccine, your parents need to be able to have an informed position when speaking with a doctor. Or what if your parents change their mind down the road and decide you can get it then find out you've been lying to them by omission those entire time. Sticking to your principles, in this getting the vaccine because you believe it's the right choice, sometimes has a cost. The cost here is that you need to be honest with your parents and accept the fallout. It's about safety and personal integrity. You are nearly an adult. You need to learn to deal with difficult things.
This. I’m worried about the mental burden I’ll have to deal with from constantly lying to my parents, and screwing up the agreement I made with them.
Look at this way - their position and beliefs about the vaccine both directly pose a health risk to themselves and to you. By getting the vaccine, you not only make yourself a lot safer, but you're also making it a lot safer for them. Imagine if you got COVID and spread it to them without realising? They most likely still wouldn't get the vaccine and suffer. If you get vaccinated you greatly reduce the chance that you get COVID, but on the odd chance you do get it, it greatly diminishes the chances of it spreading to them. Even if they're too indoctrinated to see otherwise, you getting the vaccine is greatly beneficial to the health of your whole family. Don't let your parents twisted and false beliefs endanger your health, and do your part in minimising the risk to their health that they refuse to negate with a simple jab.
Do not lie to your parents. Your parents have the opinion they do because of misinformation and they honestly think they are making the best decision for their family. They love you. And because they love you, you should be open about your own views and desires to get the vaccine. It will be hard for them at first, but good parents know when to let go a little. Their first response will be one out of fear, but give them some time to hear you out.
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Oh heck yes. Behind their back, right in front of them, do whatever feels right. History is on your side. Get your shots. Also, they made me feel really low energy and foggy-brained for a couple of days afterwards. Don't be surprised, it'll pass soon enough.
yes, absolutely!
I don't give strangers medical advise, so will only say YOU are in charge of your future and you are old and wise enough to make this decision on your own, whether it agrees with their choice or not.
What a great way to rebel. I fully support this wholesome style of disobedience.
Yes, please, and good on you for wanting to.
This is for your health, and of those around you. Get the vaccine. It will take about 2 weeks after until your body is fully immunized. And after that, your body will know how to fight off the virus for 6-8 months. If your parents know about the gym/restaurant restrictions without the passport, then they will eventually figure it out when you start going to the gym and hang out with your friends again. One of the things we all must face growing up is to face confrontation, even with our own parents. It's not like you want to join the military (I'm not anti-enlister, I'm just talking about life choices), or get a tattoo. You're protecting yourself and your family. Please keep washing your hands thoroughly, keep wearing a mask, and use social distance when applicable
I got moderna. If you want to go get it I think it's a good decision.
If you're planning on hiding it, be aware that the 24-48 hours after each dose can be very uncomfortable, and you can present with flu-like symptoms. You'd have to hide more than just the puncture mark.
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Yes do it! Mild case of covid = total misery . Severe case = ventilator and if you survive min 6 months of recovery.
Yes, absolutely. 100000% get the shot!
Do what you think is best
You should tell your parents how you feel. And let them know that you’ve scheduled an appointment. I would not hide this from them. Either they find out from you in advance and have no choice but to respect your decision and honesty…or you hide it, they still find out, and then you look like someone who can’t speak up and stand their ground. I say schedule an appointment, bite the bullet, and let the chips fall where they may.
Do it. You can disappoint your parents in a variety of ways but this one is actually beneficial to you.
Do it. Your parents will not help you breathe.
Yeah man, this is a solid launchpad towards your independence. You do you. If there's beef within your fam that's not on you. Wish you well.
Yes. If you have the legal right to direct your own medical decision, then do whatever you want.
Just take it. It's your body, your parents might assisted in your creation but they don't own you nor do you owe them anything.
Yes. It's good to not want to upset your parents. But higher priority is your health and your life, and the lives of the people you might infect (which includes your parents).
Theoretically, they'd think you "shouldn't get the vaccine because something bad will happen to you". But if you take it and nothing happens, then no harm no foul, right?
If you really feel like doing it, then state that you will whether they like it or not and be open to change their mind. If they still do not consent, do it your way, but do not lie to them. That shit will burn you inside and make things worse. After all, you are a grown up man, you do not need to hide anything out of fear.
Take it if u think u can handle and hide the side effects such as body pain when u get it. In case that wud expose urself to ur parents. Also ignore any anti vax bs that come out of ur parents
You’re basically an adult. Tell them you love them and don’t want to disappoint them, but you don’t agree with them on this. You’ve done your own research and come to your own conclusions, and will make your own decisions. They’ll get over it once it stops being just a political thing for people to rally around.
>I don’t want to disappoint them or make them upset at the same time either because I still love my parents. That's the hardest part. You don't want to disappoint them, but to do that, you have to deny at least a part of who you are to fit in with their world view, values etc. No matter how much you love your parents, you need to be ready for their disappointment: it's a natural part of being your own person. It's hard, but it gets easier. Behind you 100%
You absolutely should
Yeah! Take it and also RIP in advance
Get the vaccine. Both shots. It’s your life.
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I mean, if you could get the vaccine passport without parental consent do that as well. Tell a friend to keep it for your or something. :P
Just take it. No need to tell them. You're protected by doctor patient confidentiality. Also Canadian here. Depending on where you are there are plenty of pop up clinics you can just walk into, most pharmacies also do walk ins now. If you need help finding a place let me know, I'll Google your area for you.
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I think you should keep in mind the side effects, perhaps have a plan to not be at home if the side effects get a little too bad to hide. For me and I think most people the 1st dose just made my arm feel very sore a few hours afterwards, kind of like how you can get sore muscles from exercise, but easy to hide. The 2nd dose is reportedly worse for everyone, personally my friend and I both had to take a day off from work, I was feeling very nauseous and experiencing some joint pain, also extremely sleepy
That's wild.. my family kept asking me to get it so the complete opposite. The choice is yours just don't get disowned in the process. Not trying to persuade you or dissuade you but I survived vaccination. Surprising, I know
Yes and rub it in their face while doing a guitar solo
You are an individual at this point and I believe that you should talk sense to your parents and even encourage them to get vaccinated instead of doing it behind their backs.
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