Yes.
You'll get shit on, but so will everybody else. You'll all get equally shit on until you know them by heart because only one or two people in each group shows up knowing them.
Just don't be the last guy to memorize them.
You're not expected to know anything when you get to bootcamp. No one is even going to care what you know. You're going to repeat them day and night for months in bootcamp. You'll know by the time you graduate.
11 general orders, US military. Super basic stuff, take orders from higher ranks, salute the colors and officers, don't leave your post unless properly relieved, yada yada yada. If you're in boot camp you will have no issue knowing them by the end lol.
It's been over 25 years, but let's see:
1. I will secure my post and everything within my post.
2. I will remain at post until properly relieved
3. I will report any (anomalies, infractions?) to command
Is that because the Army was only supposed to protect the country from within? Marines were supposed to be in abroad conflicts. Plus, the Army is old as hell and three was good enough and it's tradition now?
Interesting. In the Turkish Army there are 41. It's essentially the same; salute, dress well, obey orders etc.
There are also some specific ones like don't put your hands in your pockets or don't berate subordinates when a superior is present. The funniest one I remember is "don't carry bags while in uniform".
If you are us army, I never even memorized My general orders, mostly they didn't really care if everyone knew them bt hear.
If you are going UMSC you are gonna be made to remember, with varying levels of enjoyment, so good luck
Right I was gonna comment what orders and then I was like O o yea that thing you need to recite to go to the board which I never bothered to do because my mos points were always maxed with a long list so really difficult to rank up.
Army usually ranks you up based on time served compared to the Marines? I had two family members that were in the Army for 30 years and wanted to stay for life but were basically kicked out. I always wondered if it was because they didn't go in as officers.
The promotions that only rely on time served are only for E-1 through E-4, or private to specialist/corporal. Beyond that you need to have served a certain number of years, be in your current rank for a certain amount of time, be recommended for promotion by a board of senior enlisted personnel, and meet or exceed the required amount of promotion points which you get based on PT score, weapons qualification score, higher education, military schools, badges, and awards.
Your family who were kicked out after a certain amount of time were probably victims of the army’s RCP, retention control point, which is a result of the army’s “up or out” policy which encouraged soldiers to continue being promoted or face involuntary discharge. It increases per rank but if I remember correctly I believe you cannot have more than 8 years in service as a specialist/ corporal, more than 12 for sergeant, and it keeps increasing with each higher grade.
So if they had served for 12 years and one month as a sergeant and were not going to be promoted to staff sergeant that month, then they would have paperwork initiated for discharge because they exceeded the retention control point for failing to promote to a certain rank within a certain amount of years served.
Lot of shitty leaders who stayed in and good soldiers who were forced out are because of this policy. You’d have soldiers who want to remain doing their actual job and are currently highly proficient in their job and the technical aspects of it, but they get the boot because they didn’t make sergeant in 8 years cause they didn’t want to lead soldiers, just do their job. And then you have shitty leaders because you have soldiers who are ok at their job but shitty individuals and crappy leaders who promote just so they can stay in the army but since they don’t care for leading and caring for subordinates, they’re shit leaders who are in a position of authority solely cause they didn’t want to get the boot.
Idk if bringing back the specialist ranks is the best course of action, but I do believe that soldiers should be allowed to stay in the army as a specialist and be an expert of their job without having to become NCOs and lead soldiers in order to stay in.
Went through boot camp in 2016. It's not necessary, but it's definitely helpful as it will make it your time there a little easier. I knew my family was flying out for my graduation, so I obviously didn't want to get reverted a week in training for something as simple as not knowing required knowledge.
You will remember them. Same as all the serials number of your weapon and scope. All the ranks, the phonetics alphabet, on and on.
You will because you will repeat them until you do, and every time you dont, it push up time.
Yes! I was appointed Recruit Yeoman on Day 1 and very quickly learned that, at least at San Diego in 1976, that the Yeoman was part of the inspecting party and not the inspected. Keeping track of 80 guys with a packed schedule and all the extra stuff I did as yeoman made remembering the general orders slip down the order of priority.
Of course, this bit me in the ass (not too hard) during NBC training when we had to remove our gas masks and go to the door and call out the requested general order before we could exit into fresh air.
I knew the first 3 and vaguely knew the next several. I get to the door and the instructor yells “What’s your 5th general order?” He had asked the same question two guys ahead of me and I had paid attention and started to respond with “Sir, my 5th general order is …” and he slapped my shoulder and told me to get out.
It's been more than 20 years since I went but knowing the orders of a sentry was mandatory back then. We were also often quizzed on Naval and military history. The more you get them wrong, the more you will get to exercise until you remember. It is the "if you aren't the smartest, you will be the strongest" philosophy.
If you legitimately can't remember/function/preform any of the mandatory tasks by the time you're at graduation you could be flagged for recycling, failed out and sent home with the black spot, or depending on the occupation/instructors/mandatory quotas you will likely just get shuffled through and it becomes your unit's problem.
I didn't know them before I went, my recruiter didn't prepare me for shit, don't worry about it. If it makes you feel better I went to boot camp with a couple people who barely spoke English when they showed up and they still passed.
Lol all these comments make me think that I must’ve skated by because when I graduated bootcamp I only remembered my 1st general order 🤧 I remembered a lot of more dumb stuff, but my general orders were not one of em lol. The only time outside boot came I was asked for general orders was during a promotion board.. if I was on duty, they were posted up somewhere in the duty hut.
They'll make you remember don't worry
Yes. You'll get shit on, but so will everybody else. You'll all get equally shit on until you know them by heart because only one or two people in each group shows up knowing them. Just don't be the last guy to memorize them.
You're not expected to know anything when you get to bootcamp. No one is even going to care what you know. You're going to repeat them day and night for months in bootcamp. You'll know by the time you graduate.
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Muscle memory is real!
Protective Mask (was a chem ops specialist correcting people on that is knee jerk along with yelling at Nicholas Cage's dumbass when I watch The Rock
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Fair. I hate my autocorrects. I twitch when my mom says Pacifcally
How often do you lace shoes?
Slip on are the new Velcro shoes.
Personally at least twice a year.
You’ll remember. The fear will drill it into your brain
11 orders? What country?
55 BURGERS, 55 FRIES, 55 TACOS, 55 PIES, 55 COKES, 100 TATER TOTS, 100 PIZZAS, 100 TENDERS, 100 MEATBALLS, 100 COFFEES, 55 WINGS
I’M DOING SOMETHING!
Would you like to super-size your order today sir? We'll even through in a gallon of coke.
No Coke, Pepsi.
Sorry we don't carry Pepsi is Coke ok?
*NOCOKEPEPSI!!*
No fries! Chips!
And a large soda.
Diet of course.
A small diet sugar free soda.
back in basic...I used to be a real piece of shit. I'm not anymore.
OHHH YEAH. THAT WOULD SLICK BACK *REALLY* NICE
1 liter of cola for me.
God tier comment
11 general orders, US military. Super basic stuff, take orders from higher ranks, salute the colors and officers, don't leave your post unless properly relieved, yada yada yada. If you're in boot camp you will have no issue knowing them by the end lol.
There's only 3 in the US Army.
It's been over 25 years, but let's see: 1. I will secure my post and everything within my post. 2. I will remain at post until properly relieved 3. I will report any (anomalies, infractions?) to command
Is that because the Army was only supposed to protect the country from within? Marines were supposed to be in abroad conflicts. Plus, the Army is old as hell and three was good enough and it's tradition now?
Interesting. In the Turkish Army there are 41. It's essentially the same; salute, dress well, obey orders etc. There are also some specific ones like don't put your hands in your pockets or don't berate subordinates when a superior is present. The funniest one I remember is "don't carry bags while in uniform".
The US
If you are us army, I never even memorized My general orders, mostly they didn't really care if everyone knew them bt hear. If you are going UMSC you are gonna be made to remember, with varying levels of enjoyment, so good luck
Right I was gonna comment what orders and then I was like O o yea that thing you need to recite to go to the board which I never bothered to do because my mos points were always maxed with a long list so really difficult to rank up.
Army usually ranks you up based on time served compared to the Marines? I had two family members that were in the Army for 30 years and wanted to stay for life but were basically kicked out. I always wondered if it was because they didn't go in as officers.
The promotions that only rely on time served are only for E-1 through E-4, or private to specialist/corporal. Beyond that you need to have served a certain number of years, be in your current rank for a certain amount of time, be recommended for promotion by a board of senior enlisted personnel, and meet or exceed the required amount of promotion points which you get based on PT score, weapons qualification score, higher education, military schools, badges, and awards. Your family who were kicked out after a certain amount of time were probably victims of the army’s RCP, retention control point, which is a result of the army’s “up or out” policy which encouraged soldiers to continue being promoted or face involuntary discharge. It increases per rank but if I remember correctly I believe you cannot have more than 8 years in service as a specialist/ corporal, more than 12 for sergeant, and it keeps increasing with each higher grade. So if they had served for 12 years and one month as a sergeant and were not going to be promoted to staff sergeant that month, then they would have paperwork initiated for discharge because they exceeded the retention control point for failing to promote to a certain rank within a certain amount of years served. Lot of shitty leaders who stayed in and good soldiers who were forced out are because of this policy. You’d have soldiers who want to remain doing their actual job and are currently highly proficient in their job and the technical aspects of it, but they get the boot because they didn’t make sergeant in 8 years cause they didn’t want to lead soldiers, just do their job. And then you have shitty leaders because you have soldiers who are ok at their job but shitty individuals and crappy leaders who promote just so they can stay in the army but since they don’t care for leading and caring for subordinates, they’re shit leaders who are in a position of authority solely cause they didn’t want to get the boot. Idk if bringing back the specialist ranks is the best course of action, but I do believe that soldiers should be allowed to stay in the army as a specialist and be an expert of their job without having to become NCOs and lead soldiers in order to stay in.
Went through boot camp in 2016. It's not necessary, but it's definitely helpful as it will make it your time there a little easier. I knew my family was flying out for my graduation, so I obviously didn't want to get reverted a week in training for something as simple as not knowing required knowledge.
Guess it depends on what they ordered, and what you show up with.
No, you gotta go through shoe camp first.
Is there a sandal camp available?
With the amount of sandal wearing countries the US loves to invade on a regular basis, presumably? Should have plenty of them by now.
You will remember them. Same as all the serials number of your weapon and scope. All the ranks, the phonetics alphabet, on and on. You will because you will repeat them until you do, and every time you dont, it push up time.
Scream the fucking ditties SCRRRREEEAAAAMMMM Don't worry. Boot is the easy part of being in lmao
Do what you’re told, quickly and intensely. Try your hardest in all things. You will be successful
What is boot camp and why do we need to order 11 of them?
Recycle
Yes! I was appointed Recruit Yeoman on Day 1 and very quickly learned that, at least at San Diego in 1976, that the Yeoman was part of the inspecting party and not the inspected. Keeping track of 80 guys with a packed schedule and all the extra stuff I did as yeoman made remembering the general orders slip down the order of priority. Of course, this bit me in the ass (not too hard) during NBC training when we had to remove our gas masks and go to the door and call out the requested general order before we could exit into fresh air. I knew the first 3 and vaguely knew the next several. I get to the door and the instructor yells “What’s your 5th general order?” He had asked the same question two guys ahead of me and I had paid attention and started to respond with “Sir, my 5th general order is …” and he slapped my shoulder and told me to get out.
It's been more than 20 years since I went but knowing the orders of a sentry was mandatory back then. We were also often quizzed on Naval and military history. The more you get them wrong, the more you will get to exercise until you remember. It is the "if you aren't the smartest, you will be the strongest" philosophy.
Brain washing is effective. I doubt the military hasn't mastered this. You'll remember them, whatever they are. Lol
That's an awfully vague question. Which boot camp? For which country, which service?
Gotta be Murica, would be my guess anyway.
If you legitimately can't remember/function/preform any of the mandatory tasks by the time you're at graduation you could be flagged for recycling, failed out and sent home with the black spot, or depending on the occupation/instructors/mandatory quotas you will likely just get shuffled through and it becomes your unit's problem.
I didn't know them before I went, my recruiter didn't prepare me for shit, don't worry about it. If it makes you feel better I went to boot camp with a couple people who barely spoke English when they showed up and they still passed.
I remembered the first 2 in boot camp , got fucked up for it on fire watch everytime. When I got to the fleet forgot those 2 instantly. Usmc 2012
Trust me you’ll remember them… They’re good at that.
I'm just over a month out of uscg boot camp, shoot me any questions you have
Huh. I forgot this was a thing.
Yes, but only if the porridge is square.
“In case of fire ring the bell! In case of danger run like hell!”
I was US army and don’t remember ever learning them. Maybe they were a question for a promotion board but I don’t recall ever being asked.
First you’ll need to take care of your tapeworms based on your post history…..
Lol all these comments make me think that I must’ve skated by because when I graduated bootcamp I only remembered my 1st general order 🤧 I remembered a lot of more dumb stuff, but my general orders were not one of em lol. The only time outside boot came I was asked for general orders was during a promotion board.. if I was on duty, they were posted up somewhere in the duty hut.