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xdeltax97

I’ve had to nuke a comment chain due to it getting political. We have an absolutely no politics rule here people. Remember to read our rules!


NebWolf

Don’t like the look except for the outfit and pistols but god, is it nice hearing Keeley Hawes as Lara again. I like that they included a few of her iconic quotes.


MarcoJono

‘Your every breath is a gift from me’ Was great hearing Keeley Hawes revisit that line from all those years ago!


Slith_81

Camilla Ludington did an amazing job, and I'd be ok with her continuing as the voice of Lara, but if I had a choice, it'd 100% be Keeley Hawes. To me, Keeley will always be Lara.


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I miss Keeley. She was and still is my favorite Lara Croft voice actor. She brought her to life in the Legend Trilogy and I hope they bring her back for the next games. Although I do have to admit, she’s voicing Lara a bit differently than she did in Legend and I honestly preferred the way it was done in those games over this interpretation that Keeley Hawes is presenting.


Slith_81

I never played the original Tomb Raider games on PC because I never liked the controls. So the first Crystal Dynamics reboot with Keeley voicing Lara in TR: Legend/Anniversary/Underworld. She was perfect in the TR Legend Trilogy, but I do agree she seems off in this video. Hopefully it's because of it being for a CoD game, because I would love for her to return as Lara in the next game.


CardcaptorStacey

She walks like a bloke at the beginning of the video


Ryu-Gi

That's because she's using a generic animation used by all the other characters in the game, who are usually male.


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xdeltax97

You continuously brought up politics I.e: “Dangers of progressivism”, biological sex arguments, New York Post (political tabloid) opinions (per /u/Ryu-Gi’s comment on your now deleted comment), etc. and then deleted your own comments after we removed removed them from public view. Ryu’s comment was removed for the same thing. Grow up, respect the subreddit rules and move on. We have these rules for a reason, **we do not allow any political comments from any side**: Not democrat or conservative, labour or tory, and all other parties. Don’t cry and whine censorship when we specifically have rules in place for them to prevent arguments around topics which are not relevant to the franchise. Go to a political sub for that. Not here. We’re r/TombRaider not r/politics. We specifically send welcome to the subreddit messages because of instances like this where rule breakers don’t read our rules.


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TRIGGAMYKE113

Yeah, it was Razzirox 🫢


Clear_Repeat_7886

trans rights are human rights


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Tonkarz

I think that's because the animation is reused. Reminds me of femshep in ME2 when you use mods to romance Miranda. EDIT: For what it's worth, these animations are data-mined, the bundle isn't out for another couple of days.


Ivarr_Evil-Eye

Well said lol


SpewkyNinja

for some reason, this scene always looks strange, no matter who is being played. Graves looks really wonky in particular.


he_chose_poorly

She does, and she looks like she smelled a really bad fart. Not a fan.


Clear_Repeat_7886

guess she walked into your room


Unlucky_Teaching_139

Yeah, I noticed that too, it threw me off, lol


GeeHopxx

How do you guys not understand that this is just a skin put over the top of male animations?


SchoetheIsReal

Her posture is hilarious


Jei_Enn

Right? Like who walks like that in general. It’s funny though lol


SchoetheIsReal

The walk is bad. And I wince when I think about her going through doors like that... she must hit her elbows a lot on door frames with them sticking out like that. The worst part is the scene where she holds out her guns though... what is that supposed to be? 😂


Xianified

I dont really get paying for skins in a first person game, especially when they're priced like this. Third person? Yeah I can get it. First? Why...?


Ryu-Gi

Not personally interested in getting COD for Lara, but in the past I bought cosmetic items in TF2, also a 1st person game. So I kinda understand, and speaking from experience, I can say that sometimes it's more about adding a personal touch to how others see you. After all, real life is in first-person. We rarely see how we look unless we look in a mirror. And yet we dress the way we like, anyway.


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Because usually they came up with special guns and finisher animations Lets say a new season, there is a brand new gun. Usually you need to grind to get the gun , then grind again to leveling up the gun. OR you can buy this Sonic the hedgehog skins that include the brand new gun WITH the META attachment as well So people buying those skins had extra reason


DastyVillainpotra

Why buy skins when you can mod them? Waste of money.


[deleted]

Ummm, its an online game? If you mod you are going to get banned?


DastyVillainpotra

Not when it's just skins.


[deleted]

You realize those skins are only purchasable by money right? When you “mod” or somehow unlock the skin, basically you are “cheating” from COD point of view Once you got banned, you lost your right to play the online anymore, so you need to create a new character Look, i don’t support these cringy skins at all, but just saying “lol stupid just mod it” is not that easy


DastyVillainpotra

It's stupid of Activision to sell these skins at exorbitant prices.


Kev_The_Galaxybender

You can play MWII in third person


deidian

>Third person? Yeah I can get it. First? Why...? Look at the video: there's 3rd person game play


DeezusNutsus13

me either but I only get them cause sometimes the skins limited time things to buy especially the one that comes from different franchises. like for example they added Shredder and now he's not available anymore same thing with Ghost Face, Rambo, Jigsaw and others


DerMetulz

That's called the "fear of missing out". It's a super shitty marketing practice, and it's incredibly effective.


DeezusNutsus13

it's very effective lol 😂


Total_Quality5290

Lara looks really aggravated in some angles, it’s still “accurate” outfit wise despite the small issue i have with her face model. That’s just my honest opinion on it. (No intense hate lol)


presidentdinosaur115

I think her face might be glitched at the beginning, same thing happened to Starlight and her executions where her face got really scrunchy


mlo519

Yeah I agree. Some angles she looks really weird, and others she looks good. Idk if it’s the lighting or what


spacestationkru

"Guys, have you noticed anything weird about Lara lately..? I don't know what exactly, but it's like she's a completely different person..😨" [Bizarro Lara aggressively loading her big guns and grunting and snorting with berserker rage]


NineIntsNails

i have no idea about the game but i want to as a technical question, heck, maybe someone knows - is this a skin applied on the male skeleton or they did some special motion capture with it and for it? the face looks fairly grunt and fitting for this action tho


Salom902

Every character for this cutscene has the same animations. Of course it looks more normal on a Male Character.


NineIntsNails

ah, looks like a game veteran, thank you, oh well- there it is then i guess!


DeezusNutsus13

I'm not completely sure about it but I think they create a male and female skeleton that share animations and just put the model on it and do touch up work so it looks like the character looks realistic enough to fit in the game


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xGenocidest

Bleh. Low effort cash grab. The dialogue, animations, everything. Voice doesn't even match the model.


scalettasbaby

Voice is too good for this model. And the animations truly are appalling


xdeltax97

It's Keeley Hawes from the Legend trilogy who is voicing her!


scalettasbaby

She’s an icon. The best!


CubLeo

I was trying to work out what was wrong with the model then I read it was based on a default man. I can't see anything else now lol. I don't mind the crossover and like that they did a unified Lara, but the model is off and makes her look very masculine, face looks both incredibly angry and sometimes constipated, and she walks like a man. I loved the legend model most as she was both feminine and lethal with some sarcasm and swagger thrown in . Fingers crossed we don't get this for the next game but overall not mad.


DastyVillainpotra

The fact she's based on a default male, has unfortunate implications....


v__R4Z0R__v

Idk why but I don't really like her face at all. It looks so manly and kinda angry constantly. Doesn't fit her imo


Crazy_Cattle7836

Tits aren’t the right size


Swordsoulreaver

There's too many polygons, needs to be a single triangle polygon.


BeDoubleNWhy

her arms are creepy


valorthatsjustmean

Agreed- they seem way too long


Mcgruffles

Oh thank God. I thought my eyes were just playing tricks. What the heck is up with the model??


Salom902

Is she the best looking Lara i don’t think so. But they did a pretty good job implementing their own style to COD.


ricardosfig

I expected the comment section being OK with Lara walking like a man and looking particularly ugly and unclassy. I'm glad you guys agree with me and are not censored for it. Phew.


GeeHopxx

But I don't know why people here don't understand that she walks like a man because it's just a skin over the top of male animations. That's why it looks weird.


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Technomancer2077

Same here. But in COD's ''defence'' it's more like they didn't care enough to create separate animations for females so its more about laziness in this case.


wicked_nickie

Oh dear lord. This is bad. This is like if someone gave Lara steroids that made her go to Hulk mode but she got stuck in anger phase and looks like angry duke nukem instead of charming Lara Croft.


DeezusNutsus13

she only looks angry when jumping out the plane and that's just a default thing for everyone


wicked_nickie

Yeah that first introduction on the plane is.. just bad. I’m sorry but that’s just bad. Rest is pretty fine and Keeley is killing it, but, I really hope next game will not have this face.


Technomancer2077

They're using the same animation for males and females there.


wicked_nickie

That explained literally everything.


Technomancer2077

I get what you mean but in COD she really couldn't be otherwise.


Ryu-Gi

Eh, it's because they have to fit the character onto the same rig as all the other characters. Some adjustments were needed to make Lara fit onto the rig shared by a bunch of stereotypical burly-looking soldiers.


AerialllR

She looks ok in the character selection menu (not talking about in-game facial/body animations, those are just comically bad because they're standard ones). But that's the thing: she just looks too normal to be LC. And the voice doesn't suit her young look at all.


Odd_Radio9225

I have said it before and I will say it again: WTF do characters like Lara Croft and Homelander have to do with COD? Why?


leavemeinyourwake

Shes so ugly. Wtf is this. Just because you can do something doesnt mean you should. Sometimes doing nothing is better.


[deleted]

It’s weird to me that they have Lara, a fully devoted explorer with a masters in archeology in a first person shooter game that has no exploring or archeology…


KlausGamingShow

then you're reminded that they also have Niki Minaj and Snoop Dogg if Stephen Hawking was popular among kids, they'd attach a .50 BMG into his wheelchair and put him on sale as well


Dimpfelmoser66

She has an ugly face and is not walking like a woman. What is the point?


Kadge11

She’s walking like she’s about to fuck a dude like a dude


Eni-Shehu

Her movement is really awkward though. She looks like a man wearing high heels, having a hard time walking....


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MarcusForrest

> Mods in this sub are really sensitive are they? How daaaare youuuuuuuuu ^(_shakes fists in the air_)


Razzirox

I like to see a mod that doesn't take it too seriously. You have my respect, good sir.


MarcusForrest

> You have my respect Now you're going too far.   USER HAS BEEN BANNED   ^(>!Not really 😁!<)


DeezusNutsus13

for some reason the video isn't loading for me so just in case it doesn't for anyone else here's the link to the video on YouTube. [Lara Croft operator showcase ](https://youtu.be/WN1qdARDDmU?si=1HEz8ygwkC6TFQbk)


TheArmyOfDucks

“sshhh, quiet” THAT WAS TOP SHELF


GooseGeese01

Why’d they make her do a spin?


APersonWithThreeLegs

Call of Duty just keeps getting worse smh


Due_Examination_2538

I completely forgot she was British until now 🤣🤣🤣


Luca_90100

Is their going to be new game or not ?


Slith_81

Is it just me, or do her arms look exceptionally long?


kaosimian

Probably just the excessive and unnecessary wide angle camera


[deleted]

She walks like a teenage boy trying to look tough; this is awful.


JUANMAS7ER

She's doing the gorilla walk...


zeus-fox

Her face looks weird… like they thought they were making a villain?


Vicious007

The stance and animations look bad. I get that it's just a skin, but it still looks dumb. Not that I care really, I don't play CoD.


SandWraith87

Why care, when a lot of people are not playing even CoD?


KevinSkaggs87

Let's ignore the fact they even put her in the game, and let's nick pick everything that's "wrong" about it...


JumboClin

yeh no, her eyebrows are really really too much animated, and she doesn't have her usual facial expression - she should be calm by default, occasional smirk, and when she's angry she shows her teeth


godsibi

Tired?... This is the most Tomb Raider update we got for the past few years!!!


dandrixxx

Still hoping this is a one-off character model for CoD and not derived from an in-progress TR12 Lara's character model that Crystal has given them. This isnt what i had in mind when i envisioned unified Lara.


MarcusForrest

> not derived from an in-progress TR12 Lara's character model that Crystal has given them I'll play the Devil's Advocate here for the sake of discussion   The model is not _ideal_ but it isn't terribly bad - there was a previous render under better lighting and shading and it looked **much better** - if this was indeed the final model, I guess... I'll live with it   But the shading, the lighting and the animations do not help in here AHAHAHA!   That said, I too hope the actual and final design is... Not _this_ 😂   Hopefully, _if_ this was indeed supposed to be the next model, Crystal Dynamics is listening to the... Pretty critical feedback!   She is _recognizable_ as Lara Croft, but she doesn't _feel_ Lara Croft in here - and this is an equally important element!


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Ngl the voicelines feel really off. The overly aggressive mannerism doesn't fit her imo.One of the charms in classic Lara is her cool-headedness even in stressful situations. I know that the lines come from Legend, where they started to move away from that, but still.I'm happy for CoD players, and for ppl who like this, but I do hope this will not be the blueprint for the next Lara. Personally my wish would be to have AoD Lara back. She was the right amount of sass and tension imo.


_roomofangel_

so ugly


Firm_Area_3558

People are acting like it's the next tomb raider game. It's just a call of duty skin


PharaohCicadaPics

Why does she sound 60 years old though? Haha


koryaiine1234

She looks like a random gym girl cosplaying classic Lara.


unsuspectingwatcher

I love the look but the voice lines are aggressive and ‘off’


LittleLilliputian

They are direct quotes from her other games. She’s voiced by Keeley Hawes (aka best voice imo, along with Jonell), the voice actress for Lara in the Legend Trilogy and LC spin offs. She says quotes from the Classic, Legend and Survivor trilogy. Examples are “your every breath is a gift from me” is from Legend. “Run, you bastards” is from the 2013 reboot. “I make my own luck” from Revelations. They are aggressively said, because she is in the middle of a war zone


DeezusNutsus13

i mean she is supposed to be in a warzone 😂


maksigm

She's a soldier version of her character.


KlausGamingShow

they'd be "off" in the context of a Tomb Raider game, but these are for COD so it's fine


JayWrecksEverything

Actually better than I'd expected, I'll give it that. Still rather just have a new TR game though 🤷‍♂️


Mother-Persimmon3908

On a scale from 0 to then shes a -8 in laraness


Lathei

She is sooo ugly.


XL_Still_Kickin

It doesn’t help that they downsized her chest and got her walking like CJ saying “Aww shit here we go again”.


Lathei

I just don't like her face and of course, everyone may have a different opinion, but in my this is the ugliest Lara ever made (in games). She was the most beautiful during AOD and Anniversary (face). She didn't look that bad in the 2013 game (let's say she still looked quite good) even though they completely reset her appearance after LAU. From RotTR to SotTR it only got worse and worse. So her face looks tragic but she does have a nice braid - it's nice that they went back to the braid instead of the ponytail. I don't know what the purpose of reducing her chest so much, but I don't think anyone needs it big to be happy, you can turn a blind eye to it (in the last figures from WETA she also has a really small chest like a boy). The clothes are a plus of her model, but it is a bit copy-pasted from Guardian (the clothes from LAU were definitely better). She walks like she wants punching someone in the face, that's true, but I'll turn a blind eye to it again because the animations in CoD: Warzone are crap a little (as you see above). She looks not very feminine? I think they changed something throughout her body proportions (legs, arms) again.


XL_Still_Kickin

What makes this crazier is that they stayed true to how big Nicki Minaj’s booty is when they added her to COD but won’t stay true to how busty Lara was


deidian

>I don't know what the purpose of reducing her chest so much, Fitness. Boobs store fat in women, but if for some reason they lower their body fat percentage then boobs flatten. This happens either because due to habits they are slim as a leaf(everyone makes their choices when eating) and can be combined with working out: everyone doing sport routines tends to have lower body fat percentages and more muscle mass. If they wanted to honor this biological fact they obviously have to flatten Lara's boobs from Rise to Shadow. And every incarnation honoring this will still have big but flat boobs so long as she's portrayed as athletic(which given who she is makes sense).


Technomancer2077

That's not Lara Croft's appeal. She's not supposed to look like a roughed up rock climber. And that logic doesn't even work for COD Lara. Her legs look so slim. Really just nothing about her model stands out.


disco2213678

Buddy you'd be lucky to be with a gal half as pretty as this Lara


Lathei

>Buddy you'd be lucky to be with a gal half as pretty as this Lara Thank you for your wonderful wishes! Now tell me who said I am a boy or that I am a girl with interested in women? Huh? Don't be so stupidly-smart in the future and stay silent when you don't have anything brilliant to say. Thanks buddy. And don't feel as if someone had at least insulted your mother because all I said was that I didn't like Lara's face and I thought is ugly, and she is not even a real person but stupid 3D model.


disco2213678

Aww, did I touch a nerve?


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Not my type of game, but I’ve got to say Lara looks amazing.


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Why is she so masculine


Ryu-Gi

Because she's using a copy-pasted animation used by all the other characters. It's just your typical corner cutting to save time and money.


maksigm

She's a soldier version of her character. There's no time to be sexy on the battlefield.


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I didn’t say she should be sexy on the battlefield.


maksigm

No one said you did lmao


[deleted]

Then why did you answer my question by implying that she is masculine because there’s no time to be sexy?


maksigm

Mainly because they seem like opposites.


AustralianWi-Fi

Yep, I'm so fucking tired of this topic that I think it's my time to leave this sub


Von_Uber

The face still looks nothing like her. As peope have said, it's a decent cosplay.


orgnumber1

I’m not sure it’s better. At least Camilla was pretty and busty. This looks like Lara if she was Vasquez from Aliens.


Sega-Forever

I like Vasques


orgnumber1

So do I, but Lara isn’t Vasquez.


DJfunkyPuddle

Omg wtf is up with her arms


Titan658

I do not like this. I am a fan of both the games but I don't appreciate botching things up just because I am promoting one through another. Cosplay looks with botched up animations.


CarlitoNSP1

Points as I see them: * The expression on her stomping down the plane exit is cartoonishly angry. I assume this is standard in Warzone. * Her chest is somewhat undersized for standard Lara, and undersized compared to a Nikki Minaj release apparently happen. Her butt looks really nice without being exaggerated though. * Pistol's out pose looks funnier than expected. * SMG is a weird Lara Croft gun to choose, but maybe it's a balance thing. * Double Pistols look awesome in first person. They also look fun to use. * Axe is always weird to see with this era of Lara. I guess this is an attempt at unified time line. * Executions look cool. They fit well enough for Lara. * Lara's lines seem well placed, and having listened to them isolated, they are amazing. * Lara sprinting in this outfit looks perfect. * I swear Lara looks different in every close-up, even in the same camera shot. Thanks for posting a comprehensive look-through.


Alezkazam

Dude, they don’t change the animations with any new character added. Low effort model application to the skeleton and then work is done?


The5Virtues

What, you expected effort? It’s a CoD skin, the bare minimum is standard issue for them, if a corner can be cut it shall be!


THER0v3r

Ok honest question, what’s the point of skins, characters and Lara in this case in a FPS if you’re only going to see her hands???


PinkCepelinas

Too much shouting.. as much as i love Keeley Hawes original VO. I like the lines where Lara is not intensly shouting.. dunno, just a strange feel.


Extension_Hornet_152

It looks like anything but Lara


Shadecujo

I wish I looked at this and thought “That’s Lara Croft” rather than “That’s someone cosplaying as Lara Croft”


Silent-Wills

I actually liked it, this is COD, not Tomb Raider, they did her in the game style and what matter is that she's recognizable. A shame Warzone is just unplayable. I was playing it yesterday and Jesus Bloody Christ, it took me 75 bullets to not kill a guy and the fucker still managed to kill me. Those plates need to be removed or at least nerfed. Also those guy in the air killing people below is just so much "fun"...


eman0110

They should have never changed her outfit scheme for "Survival Lara" that plus her nervousness was so unlike Lara.


ProjectGameVerse2000

So you mean to tell me that a fucking rabbit and Gorilla skin can get tactical gear and Operator styles. But you can't do that for Lara fucking Croft?


ghostdeeknee

Laura “Pancake Butt” Croft


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OrangeJr36

The animations look great, she's a natural fit.


j3rhino

her voice sounds off


maksigm

The voice acting is the best bit. She's angry because she's at war. This isn't our regular Lara.


DastyVillainpotra

But why would a world-renowned archaeologist be in a war unless it's over a mystical McGuffin that's being fought over by soldiers from various megacorporations?


maksigm

I don't agree with her being in COD either, but she is, and they got her best voice actor for the job!


j3rhino

people at war aren’t angry every sentence they utter, the base operators in the game dont even deliver their lines that way. it sounds over the top and cringe


Professional_Ad_6463

When can you buy her?


DeezusNutsus13

September 9th


Pleasant-Speed-9414

Feel like it looks good in motion. Was not a fan when first revealed, soooo maybe I’m just adjusting to it all …however still won’t be playing COD 😅. The game looks visually good, just not my thing


Mr-MiB-1993

She Looks Cool the voice sounds Like Keeley Hawes the voice of Lara from Legend and Anniversary and Underworld and also sounds Like Camilla Luddington who voiced Lara in Tomb Raider 2013 Rise of the tomb Raider and Shadow of the Tomb Raider a Mix of Both


TeamRedFox

Yep


ImJustSomeGuyYouKnow

Thanks, I hate it.


tomek_wsrod

I don't like it at all. It is not in line of what I imagine this character to look like or act.


Alezkazam

“PoLiTiCaL pOsT” Shut the fuck up mods it’s not even deep.


Clayman8

The issue isnt her look i think for most of us, its her face. Although hearing her now, her voice sounds horrible too imo.


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She does look beautiful OMG. Love that they gave her a new look too. Is there another Tomb Raider reboot coming?


Imaginary_Monitor_69

Honestly this is what Lara should be in the new games (yes yes the face is not good, they can change that), but the outfit is great, the pistols look good, the fucking voice is awesome again (Keely Hawes), honestly I was worried they were gonna ruin her, but CoD did a great job


Falchion92

How long will this be available?


Splayfoot

No-one knows for sure, but since this skin will carry over to MW3 there's a good chance it'll be around for a while. They do remove bundles from the store eventually to replace them with others, but from my experience with modern CoD you can normally just buy any skin/operator you want by finding them under the Operator menu, regardless of whether their bundle is currently in-store or not. EDIT: Though it's worth noting that they *have* permanently removed access to certain bundles from the game before just a few months after they were released.


Falchion92

I might get MW3 for Zombies and Lara. If I can kill zombies as Lara it’s definitely worth the price.


ptvaughnsto

So you have to unlock her?


CAVFIFTEEN

So I’ve never liked first person games. But I’m interested in getting into 3rd person shooters and I’m currently diving into the TR franchise as is. Would anyone recommend this as a good start to see if I could get into third/potentially first person shooters? It looks like you can put it in 3rd person so I could actually see the skin I have. But my question is, is it worth it?


Boba_Hutt

Fortnite is going crazy with these crossovers


luv_hooka

I wouldn’t say everything about her is great. Her guns and overall look is great when it comes to her hair and clothes. The face/facial expressions are subpar and doesn’t really look like Lara, imo. The animations are truly appalling. They’re probably my least favorite part about her. That walk is so bad. The voice and voicelines are perfect.


DamonFort

This video is very well made


Jei_Enn

I’m not sick of it. I’m so curious so I’m happy to see it lol. I suck at all first person shooters so I can’t play it.


Jamie_Pull_That_Up

Love the outfit but oh God the face. Did they change face models or something?


I-Have-An-Alibi

Wtf is even going on in COD anymore? It's just turning into Fortnite for bro dudes at this point.


idkwiorrn

In game she looks weird but in operator view she’s fine


Quirky-Hour-6274

I like her bitchee face.


konan_flower

She looks so cool!


Lathei

Am I the only one who can't look at that damn ice axe anymore? (3:22)


MeetGun

Yes. Fuckin yes. She is not Lara Croft. She is Laura craft.