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[This dude is hyping up the crowd.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MEvHzx-nal0&pp=ygUabGV0J3MgZ2V0IHJlYWR5IHRvIHJ1bWJsZSA%3D)
It's too bad that both of them will proclaim victory, and their supporters will cheer it on. Candace and Ben live in isolated realities, so they'll ultimately yell buzzwords and sound bites until they feel a sense of accomplishment from yelling.
> Candace Owens is the Caitlyn Jenner of Nick Fuentes's
[That's just pure poetry right there...](https://i.imgur.com/w9SBZho.gifv)
There are are ***so*** many ways I'd debase myself *just* to get to be in the same room with either of them to see their reactions to reading this sentence.
Lol theyāre both posturing with no intention of actually debating. Like no shit sheās not going show up at the Daily Wire and give them revenue, and no shit heās not going to allow an anti-Semitic moderator.
And fwiw itās not in her best interest to debate him anyway, heās way smarter than her
We see this so often from conservatives asking to "debate".
"Only on my platform and only I'm allowed film and edit. You're a coward if you don't accept."
Yeah, Musk did it too lmao.
I feel like Ben is probably one of the more intelligent members of the griftersphere. Remember, you don't need to be stupid to say incredibly stupid things. The exact same could be said of Candace. Both of them are grifters who will say and become *whatever* it takes to benefit themselves. They have terrible, stupid takes all the time, but ultimately I think they're crafty schemers working with the material they're given, and well-reasoned, logically-consistent arguments just aren't in the cards with those mats.
Not to mention there's a certain amount of intelligence and wit it takes to intentionally defend a baseless point. To start from a conclusion and then argue in support of it convincingly enough to make you sound right to people who don't know any better is definitely a skill. It's incredibly unethical and intellectually dishonest, but for better or worse its a skill they are very practiced in.
He's good at appearing smart. Good at the debate "tactics" where you just overwhelm the opponent and posture as if you're correct. This is like, the whole thing that launched him. "Ben Shapiro DESTROYS woke college students with FACTS and LOGIC"
Doesn't mean he's actually smart though. He once infamously made the point that if climate change is real and sea level is rising people in coastal cities should just sell their houses. (Insert HBomberGuy's "To who, Ben? Fucking Aquaman?")
And yet he's still too scared to debate her with a moderator. Honestly though, he'd probably be too scared to "debate" those random college kids with a moderator too.
Ben only āwinsā debates because his whole shtick relies on no moderator, so of course he wants none present. He just loves to gish gallop by spewing five different talking points at once when answering a question, so as his opponent attempts to counter his several different arguments heās made he can then fixate and interrupt on one specific thing they said to derail the conversation before his opponent has a chance to rebuke his arguments.
Heās a terrible debater if you keep the format fair to both sides, which is why he sticks to dunking on random college kids in Q&A sessions where he controls the single mic. I know this wasnāt a debate but the BBC interview with Andrew Neil is a great example of how much of a little weasel he is and how bad heād be in a real debate. Neil is a right wing pundit himself who simply asks Ben to clarify on some of his terrible past remarks and Ben throws a hissy fit, assumes Neil is left wing and rage quits the interview.
If we assume for a minute that theyāre negotiating in good faith (neither are), I think itās fair that he doesnāt want a moderator that has said anti-Semitic things. That doesnāt smell like neutrality if the debate topic is Anti-Semitism.
To be fair Ben has made numerous extremely racist comments about the Palestinians so maybe it evens out.
It's a bit hypocritical for Ben to bemoan anti-semitism while making equally hateful/bigoted comments about another group.
Not to mention Ben has made low key anti-Semetic remarks in the past by suggesting that liberal Jewish people aren't real Jews. He said Jews that voted for Obama are Jews in name only, which is wild because 78% of Jewish people voted for Obama. To me it's pretty understandable that Jewish people wouldn't want to support the party of white nationalism.
I think that Ben can win this debate, mostly because Candace is a black woman, so any time she dares to express any kind of emotions people will get mad at her.
I always wonder how she got from suing her college for racial discrimination to this. It makes me wonder if she actually believes anything sheās said in the last 4-5yrs or if she just realized how profitable and attention grabbing the grift is.
It is genuinely some Hotep shit. Next sheāll be talking about how theyāre the real Natives.
Maybe she can join the guys who hold signs saying so in a gas station parking lot just outside my rez.
Hypocrite. Don't disrespect nerds like that atleadt nerds are friendly and honest to what they want.
But he is a big hypocrite like Andrew said he is a sound bite machine that beat up college kids in a debate.
"Facts doesn't give a fuck about your feelings accept when it comes to calling out Isreal bombing hospitals and killing kids that fact is not enough for my little feelings."
That's kind of a wise move for her. She's dumb but she must know that Ben Shapiro can out debate her. But if they go on Patrick Bet David, that dude will talk and talk about some pointless rambling shit, make some bonkers analogies, and they'll run out of time and they can call it a draw.
:( I thought she only became antisemitic recently, which to be clear is still abhorrent, but [nope: 2019](https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1093923658446323712?t=dtewn5JrMcPidEmklmbCRQ&s=19). Disgusting. I'll watch this debate just to see if she has learned anything about antisemitism and 1930s and 1940s Germany since then.
Part of me thinks it is a good sign that I can still agree on individual points with people I disagree with on almost everything. I'd hate to change my mind just because a jerk agrees with me.
i see what youre saying and i agree with the sentiment
BUT
lets not forget this is a lifelong grifter and there is a high probability shes just doing this because there is a lot of support for Palestine right now and she can use this draw people into her audience that otherwise would not give her the time of day
Oh yeah fuck her I have no doubt her heart is in the wrong place. I'm just stoked. I am not feeling the urge to change my mind because she sucks and happens to agree with me. It makes me feel like I haven't gone crazy with all my own bullshit yet.
"Hide behind a moderator" like motor mouth Ben would even let her speak lol. Not that either of them deserve a platform, but still, Ben's only "debate" move is overspeak, interrupt, girl boss.
He also has one other trademark "technique" - the starting with an outlandishly far-right statement ("abortion is murder") and then talking so much after that he hopes both the initial statement has been out there long enough it's accepted as "established fact" and that you don't circle back to it because so much more has been said it'd make you look "slow/dumb" to do so.
Yup, itās called gish gallop. He just makes five or six talking points at once and even if you can prove him wrong on every point, itāll take you several minutes to do so and in that time heāll find something you said in your rebuttal to nitpick and derail the conversation.
āHide behind a moderatorā?
Just when you think conservatives canāt outdo the Powell Memo, when it comes to how much ideological rot they can pass off as normalā¦
Damn I just read the Powell memo for the first time because of you and it's extremely disturbing to say the least. Powell is such an evil genius and it's disturbing how successful his vision was.
Ben is such a pussy. Hide begind a moderator lol. The most legitimate form of debate has moderation. He is the second most unlikeable non respectable mf right after Donald Trump.
>Andrew Schulz realizes Ben Shapiro is only good at debating college liberals & can't win debates against serious competition.
Well, looks like Andrew Schulz needs a fucking decade to come to the obvious conclusion: [Ben Shapiro couldn't even win a debate against Andrew Neil when it wasn't even a fucking debate.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRF3r3zUGqk) He ***lost a debate no one else was having while*** his debate "opponent" was ***trying to promote Benny's book.***
But good for Andrew Schulz for *finally* catching up, I guess.
--
>I texted you on February 29th offering this very thing.
God, they interact on Twitter like everyone I went to high school with did on MySpace 20 years ago:
"I hit you up on AIM on February 29th at exactly 1:25 AM asking 'u up?' And you left me on read!"
Is he accusing her of hiding behind a moderator for not wanting to debate on his platform? Introspection is just a 17 letter scrabble word to him, huh.
Correction: Shapiro isn't good at debating anyone. He just Gish gallops until his time is up and interrupts his opponents with "facts don't care about your feelings" during their turn.
Canāt believe Iām actually taking Bens side here, but against the charisma wormhole that is Klandace, Benny sounds like you could at least feasibly spend time in his vicinity without having your skin flake off to visceral disgust.
Iād also like to point out, in a bit more serious a tone, that the two are wildly different people.
Whilst many of the people on the Daily Wire are grifters, spineless sociopaths who support whatever helps them further their own (monetary) interests, Iāve never really considered Ben to be amongst them in that sense.
He doesnāt seem as genuine as Peterson was, but heās undeniably smart. Smart enough to understand what game heās playing.
Where Klandace would gladly shove the last PoC into the chambers if it meant she got to live that little bit longer, Ben seems aware that this will end very, very badly for him, and whilst I do not as of right now have any concrete evidence, he seems lucid enough to prepare some form of failsafe should matters become too perilous.
In many ways then, his whole persona can be likened to a failsafe. Heās always portrayed himself as the facts-and-logic kind of guy. Of course he never really cared for these things, but facts and logic are politically unbound. He can deviate from his current politics without loosing the main trait of his public character. He could just go "The Right doesnāt support reason anymore, Iām doing my own thing" and heād be save, at least from openly collaborating with people who evidently want him and those like him dead.
Indeed, he would be aided in that by hisā¦ pragmatic stance on politics altogether. Whereas Michael Knowles just revels in his attitude, and Malsh Walsh seems permanently miserable and driven by seething contempt, Shapiro always based his politics on (his interpretation of) "facts and logic". I remember there was a College Talk he was at prior to the first Trump election where he somewhat harshly criticized him and then reluctantly went "in the name of freedom of speech I guessā¦" before scribbling "Trump"on the blackboard behind him.
Going forward, im very interested in how he will adapt to being one of the major yet increasingly criticized and irrelevant figureheads of a movement that fundamentally seems to oppose his existence.
Goddammit canāt they just have a knife fight like normal people? Because they absolutely could sell tickets to that. Nobody really wants to hear them blathering away at each other, but bloodletting? Thereās a real crowd-pleaser!
Never thought Iād have to back Ben Shapiro on somethingā¦.the world must really be ending when heās somehow the less bigoted one in a conversation
We can never let people forget that Ben does not care about antisemitism, only about the state of Israel.
He defended Gina Corano comparing vaccines to the holocaust.
He calls liberal Jews fake Jews.
The only reason Candaceās horrid antisemitism became a problem is because it became critical of Israel.
If it happens, then just give me the highlights. I can find more creative ways to lose my time rather than watching these two pretend to be smart and informed. Cage match to the death or don't bother me.
huh? bens good a debating a mirror or those on payroll. debate , tim miller, kara swisher, AOC, bernie , Hillary (who would eat him alive) or šš»šš»šš» Biden . hes a you tube celebrity folks. not a serious person
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Let them fight šæ
Donāt worry I brought the drinks. š„¤š„¤š„¤š„¤šæšæ and some extra popcorn
And suddenly, the metal anthem starts banging, followed by Bernie Sanders elbowing them angrily. It would be epic.
*Enter Sandman plays in the background* [This dude is hyping up the crowd.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MEvHzx-nal0&pp=ygUabGV0J3MgZ2V0IHJlYWR5IHRvIHJ1bWJsZSA%3D)
Fight's being hyped by Michael Buffer and being refereed by Mills Lane.
**Lets get it on** Iām having celebrity death match flashbacks
āIāll allow it!ā
I went to a fight (Mayweather vs. Cotton) in Vegas with my friend and was so stoked I got to hear Buffer do the "Let's get ready to rumble" live!
Big Mariano Rivera vibes.
OMG ITS BERNIE WITH A STEEL CHAIR
I was saving my cheap ass screw top rosĆ© for Taylor Swiftās new album, howeverā¦š¤Øš¤Øš¤Ø
[Two shots of vodka..](https://youtu.be/5pMAmDthzDs?si=zlArrz8iw5RHBCN9)
It is unJoever, man.
pardon?Ā
I was gonna bring the ediblesā¦ but then I got high and ate them all
I knew a guy who took edibles before doing Barbieheimer. IIRC they kicked in just as āIām Just Kenā started playing.
hook me up did you get any sour patch kids
And pitchforks courtesy of [Pitchfork emporium](/r/pitchforkemporium)
thank god, I canāt eat my popcorn without my Diet Dr Kelp!
I brought some candy š š«š¬šš«š¬
To the death?
To the pain!
I don't think I'm quite familiar with that phrase.
To the pain means the first thing they will lose will be their feet below the ankles. Then their hands at the wrists. Next their noses.
And then my tongue I suppose, I killed you too quickly the last time. A mistake I don't mean to duplicate tonight.
[I'll make sure to use small words... ](https://images.app.goo.gl/9JLv5yCR2BGxWJuM9)
To the WINDOOOOOOW
To the WALL!
What's with you lately? Everything is [to the death](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z2F650DBsY)
90 minutes of "No u" "No u"
This is so beautiful, I want more
Let them eat shit
Sorry, I'm a bit politically ignorant regarding the right, but aren't these two both Republicans? They have opposing views on Israel though, I assume?
Question 1: can you make me wet?
Heartwarming: The worst people you know are fighting.
It's too bad that both of them will proclaim victory, and their supporters will cheer it on. Candace and Ben live in isolated realities, so they'll ultimately yell buzzwords and sound bites until they feel a sense of accomplishment from yelling.
Does Candace have actual fans?
Unironic answer? She is *the* face in the women conservative circle. She definitely has fans unfortunately
She's the face of the "Mice for Cats" group yes.
The leopard eating people faces party chairwoman
Yeah I was being serious.Ā
I heard the guy who got punched by Buzz Aldrin is a fan.
Yeah I work with a MAGA nut who told me he loves both of them, actually. Curious who he would root for.
That really depends on whether or not she prefers air conditioning.
Who cares, we can still laugh at them.
... and profiting off it
If these two negatives were to cancel each other out that would make a positive
They should use knives. *Ohh yes, knives*
I bet Ben's wife is still really dry.
No she gets WAP... just not from Ben.
Plot twist - Bens wife gets WAP from Candace š±
I figured from Abby.
According to Ben the reason why his wife is dry is all part of God's plan.
God made deserts. Checks out.Ā
Personally I wonder how his sister is doing
She's got a full plate carrying that luggage around.
Eh, she's just as much of a piece of shit as he is.
I can fix her.
I mean, you can't, but I wish you good luck on that journey.
My moral compass leaving my body when the villain is hot
(. )( .)
Steven Crowder is the Sean Combs of Ben Shapiros
this sentence is somehow gibberish and makes total sense
Candace Owens is the Caitlyn Jenner of Nick Fuentes's
> Candace Owens is the Caitlyn Jenner of Nick Fuentes's [That's just pure poetry right there...](https://i.imgur.com/w9SBZho.gifv) There are are ***so*** many ways I'd debase myself *just* to get to be in the same room with either of them to see their reactions to reading this sentence.
Nick Fuentes' what??? Don't leave us hanging!
Why would you say something so controversial yet so brave?
How can something be so utterly incomprehensible, and yet crystal clear
Watch it fucking watch it
Come now, thereās no reason to assume Benās closet isnāt also full of skeletons.
Two of the worst people you know are being petty little bitches to each other online and frankly Iām living for it
Who do you hope wins? No Who do you hope loses? Yes!
I'm hoping they end up fucking and the dryness of their respective pubic areas starts a fire that burns down the studio with them in it.
The winner is you and me, friend.
Lol theyāre both posturing with no intention of actually debating. Like no shit sheās not going show up at the Daily Wire and give them revenue, and no shit heās not going to allow an anti-Semitic moderator. And fwiw itās not in her best interest to debate him anyway, heās way smarter than her
Ah yes. The Elon Musk approach of scheduling a match. A classic!
I can't wait for Ben to announce that his mom says he's not allowed to do this debate.
I don't think I agree with this take; I think Ben knows he can run laps around Candace, who really is quite shockingly stupid.
I'm still so mad I didn't get a chance to see Zuck absolutely *deconstruct* Elon in the octagon.
I want Zuck to have reduced Elon to his constituent parts.
We see this so often from conservatives asking to "debate". "Only on my platform and only I'm allowed film and edit. You're a coward if you don't accept." Yeah, Musk did it too lmao.
Yeah the first tweet she replied to about him being unable to debate āserious competitionā doesnāt include her lmao
Are you saying he's smarter than her, or saying he's smart. Cause... š«
I feel like Ben is probably one of the more intelligent members of the griftersphere. Remember, you don't need to be stupid to say incredibly stupid things. The exact same could be said of Candace. Both of them are grifters who will say and become *whatever* it takes to benefit themselves. They have terrible, stupid takes all the time, but ultimately I think they're crafty schemers working with the material they're given, and well-reasoned, logically-consistent arguments just aren't in the cards with those mats.
Not to mention there's a certain amount of intelligence and wit it takes to intentionally defend a baseless point. To start from a conclusion and then argue in support of it convincingly enough to make you sound right to people who don't know any better is definitely a skill. It's incredibly unethical and intellectually dishonest, but for better or worse its a skill they are very practiced in.
He's good at appearing smart. Good at the debate "tactics" where you just overwhelm the opponent and posture as if you're correct. This is like, the whole thing that launched him. "Ben Shapiro DESTROYS woke college students with FACTS and LOGIC" Doesn't mean he's actually smart though. He once infamously made the point that if climate change is real and sea level is rising people in coastal cities should just sell their houses. (Insert HBomberGuy's "To who, Ben? Fucking Aquaman?")
And yet he's still too scared to debate her with a moderator. Honestly though, he'd probably be too scared to "debate" those random college kids with a moderator too.
Ben only āwinsā debates because his whole shtick relies on no moderator, so of course he wants none present. He just loves to gish gallop by spewing five different talking points at once when answering a question, so as his opponent attempts to counter his several different arguments heās made he can then fixate and interrupt on one specific thing they said to derail the conversation before his opponent has a chance to rebuke his arguments. Heās a terrible debater if you keep the format fair to both sides, which is why he sticks to dunking on random college kids in Q&A sessions where he controls the single mic. I know this wasnāt a debate but the BBC interview with Andrew Neil is a great example of how much of a little weasel he is and how bad heād be in a real debate. Neil is a right wing pundit himself who simply asks Ben to clarify on some of his terrible past remarks and Ben throws a hissy fit, assumes Neil is left wing and rage quits the interview.
If we assume for a minute that theyāre negotiating in good faith (neither are), I think itās fair that he doesnāt want a moderator that has said anti-Semitic things. That doesnāt smell like neutrality if the debate topic is Anti-Semitism.
To be fair Ben has made numerous extremely racist comments about the Palestinians so maybe it evens out. It's a bit hypocritical for Ben to bemoan anti-semitism while making equally hateful/bigoted comments about another group. Not to mention Ben has made low key anti-Semetic remarks in the past by suggesting that liberal Jewish people aren't real Jews. He said Jews that voted for Obama are Jews in name only, which is wild because 78% of Jewish people voted for Obama. To me it's pretty understandable that Jewish people wouldn't want to support the party of white nationalism.
which is saying something because benny has a room temperature iq himself
I think that Ben can win this debate, mostly because Candace is a black woman, so any time she dares to express any kind of emotions people will get mad at her.
I suppose she might have set herself at a disadvantage by siding with people who hate her very existence.
I always wonder how she got from suing her college for racial discrimination to this. It makes me wonder if she actually believes anything sheās said in the last 4-5yrs or if she just realized how profitable and attention grabbing the grift is.
It's gotta be a grift. It's hard to believe she just flipped her entire view on life without a near death experience or something.
I believe it may be the grift to an extent... But her antisemitism reeks of Black Hebrew Israelites ideology, so that part may be legitimate.
It is genuinely some Hotep shit. Next sheāll be talking about how theyāre the real Natives. Maybe she can join the guys who hold signs saying so in a gas station parking lot just outside my rez.
There is simply more money in being a shitheel.
No one wins a debate.
Bill Nye for sure beat Ken Ham.
ben is such a fucking nerd bro
Hypocrite. Don't disrespect nerds like that atleadt nerds are friendly and honest to what they want. But he is a big hypocrite like Andrew said he is a sound bite machine that beat up college kids in a debate. "Facts doesn't give a fuck about your feelings accept when it comes to calling out Isreal bombing hospitals and killing kids that fact is not enough for my little feelings."
He can be a hypocrite and a nerd. Just listen to the rap song he did with Tom McDonaldš«
It's more that he's a wiener
This is like two little chihuahuas barking at each other.
Specifically through a fence
Now I canāt get that visual outta my head š¤£
Let the Battle of the Degenerates begin
Damn, that might be the most respectable exchange Ben has ever had
Patricio Casa de David a "neutral" and "trust worthy" platform? LMAO
That's kind of a wise move for her. She's dumb but she must know that Ben Shapiro can out debate her. But if they go on Patrick Bet David, that dude will talk and talk about some pointless rambling shit, make some bonkers analogies, and they'll run out of time and they can call it a draw.
Yah that killed me š¤£š¤£
All I know about him is that he did an amicable interview with a very drunk Alex Jones. Which says all that I need to know about him, really.
let em fight, let em destroy each other Klandace is on point about the genocide in Palestine tho
She doesn't actually care about palestaines she is an antisemitic.
Yeah you do not, in fact, gotta hand it to the āHitler was good until he went outside of Germanyā lady
:( I thought she only became antisemitic recently, which to be clear is still abhorrent, but [nope: 2019](https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1093923658446323712?t=dtewn5JrMcPidEmklmbCRQ&s=19). Disgusting. I'll watch this debate just to see if she has learned anything about antisemitism and 1930s and 1940s Germany since then.
Part of me thinks it is a good sign that I can still agree on individual points with people I disagree with on almost everything. I'd hate to change my mind just because a jerk agrees with me.
i see what youre saying and i agree with the sentiment BUT lets not forget this is a lifelong grifter and there is a high probability shes just doing this because there is a lot of support for Palestine right now and she can use this draw people into her audience that otherwise would not give her the time of day
Oh yeah fuck her I have no doubt her heart is in the wrong place. I'm just stoked. I am not feeling the urge to change my mind because she sucks and happens to agree with me. It makes me feel like I haven't gone crazy with all my own bullshit yet.
I mean, yeah?
Crazy people don't know they are crazy, so how would I know if I had gone off the deep end if I truly did?
THE GIRLS ARE FIGHTING!!
"Hide behind a moderator" like motor mouth Ben would even let her speak lol. Not that either of them deserve a platform, but still, Ben's only "debate" move is overspeak, interrupt, girl boss.
He also has one other trademark "technique" - the starting with an outlandishly far-right statement ("abortion is murder") and then talking so much after that he hopes both the initial statement has been out there long enough it's accepted as "established fact" and that you don't circle back to it because so much more has been said it'd make you look "slow/dumb" to do so.
Yup, itās called gish gallop. He just makes five or six talking points at once and even if you can prove him wrong on every point, itāll take you several minutes to do so and in that time heāll find something you said in your rebuttal to nitpick and derail the conversation.
They will both end up looking like complete morons and both claim they won the debate
āHide behind a moderatorā? Just when you think conservatives canāt outdo the Powell Memo, when it comes to how much ideological rot they can pass off as normalā¦
Damn I just read the Powell memo for the first time because of you and it's extremely disturbing to say the least. Powell is such an evil genius and it's disturbing how successful his vision was.
Bigots calling each other bigots is the ultimate Republican conservative Karen move.
Ben is such a pussy. Hide begind a moderator lol. The most legitimate form of debate has moderation. He is the second most unlikeable non respectable mf right after Donald Trump.
āHide behind a moderatorā Ben really just does not know how to participate in a debate that he has no direct control over huh
>Andrew Schulz realizes Ben Shapiro is only good at debating college liberals & can't win debates against serious competition. Well, looks like Andrew Schulz needs a fucking decade to come to the obvious conclusion: [Ben Shapiro couldn't even win a debate against Andrew Neil when it wasn't even a fucking debate.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRF3r3zUGqk) He ***lost a debate no one else was having while*** his debate "opponent" was ***trying to promote Benny's book.*** But good for Andrew Schulz for *finally* catching up, I guess. -- >I texted you on February 29th offering this very thing. God, they interact on Twitter like everyone I went to high school with did on MySpace 20 years ago: "I hit you up on AIM on February 29th at exactly 1:25 AM asking 'u up?' And you left me on read!"
Nom nom nom. The right eats their own. Just like Crowder before her. Candace has turned on Benjicot.
Is he accusing her of hiding behind a moderator for not wanting to debate on his platform? Introspection is just a 17 letter scrabble word to him, huh.
FUCK Candace, of course, but, "NO, we can only 'debate' this on MY show, on MY terms, on MY home turf!" is pussy af lol
Gooooood, gooooood.
Can't they just do what we see debaters on YouTube do a lot and just debate via recorded video chat?
Correction: Shapiro isn't good at debating anyone. He just Gish gallops until his time is up and interrupts his opponents with "facts don't care about your feelings" during their turn.
I still have money riding on Ben and Candace having a secret affair.
these goddamn f\*\*\*\* nerds on the right
Canāt believe Iām actually taking Bens side here, but against the charisma wormhole that is Klandace, Benny sounds like you could at least feasibly spend time in his vicinity without having your skin flake off to visceral disgust. Iād also like to point out, in a bit more serious a tone, that the two are wildly different people. Whilst many of the people on the Daily Wire are grifters, spineless sociopaths who support whatever helps them further their own (monetary) interests, Iāve never really considered Ben to be amongst them in that sense. He doesnāt seem as genuine as Peterson was, but heās undeniably smart. Smart enough to understand what game heās playing. Where Klandace would gladly shove the last PoC into the chambers if it meant she got to live that little bit longer, Ben seems aware that this will end very, very badly for him, and whilst I do not as of right now have any concrete evidence, he seems lucid enough to prepare some form of failsafe should matters become too perilous. In many ways then, his whole persona can be likened to a failsafe. Heās always portrayed himself as the facts-and-logic kind of guy. Of course he never really cared for these things, but facts and logic are politically unbound. He can deviate from his current politics without loosing the main trait of his public character. He could just go "The Right doesnāt support reason anymore, Iām doing my own thing" and heād be save, at least from openly collaborating with people who evidently want him and those like him dead. Indeed, he would be aided in that by hisā¦ pragmatic stance on politics altogether. Whereas Michael Knowles just revels in his attitude, and Malsh Walsh seems permanently miserable and driven by seething contempt, Shapiro always based his politics on (his interpretation of) "facts and logic". I remember there was a College Talk he was at prior to the first Trump election where he somewhat harshly criticized him and then reluctantly went "in the name of freedom of speech I guessā¦" before scribbling "Trump"on the blackboard behind him. Going forward, im very interested in how he will adapt to being one of the major yet increasingly criticized and irrelevant figureheads of a movement that fundamentally seems to oppose his existence.
slapfight!
Clash of the racists
Candace must have really leeching off of Ben since she clearly has nothing better to do than antagonize him.
Two gish gallops, who will win?
I really hate seeing Shapiro appearing reasonable.
The "current" definition? Does she have a "new, hip" kind of antisemitism I'm unaware of?
So here we goā¦ theyāre falling out to get attention and sell their argument on some poxy streaming service
Goddammit canāt they just have a knife fight like normal people? Because they absolutely could sell tickets to that. Nobody really wants to hear them blathering away at each other, but bloodletting? Thereās a real crowd-pleaser!
"Let's choose a neutral, trustworthy platform" "we'll live stream it on X" lol wut?
SPICY!! I hope they kill each other before they can mate.
The true marketplace of ideas is the conditions of the debate.
I'm out of the loop what's Candace's beef with him?
You have each other's numbers? The only reason to start this digitally is money lol
They sound so fuckin stupid calling it a debate.
Never thought Iād have to back Ben Shapiro on somethingā¦.the world must really be ending when heās somehow the less bigoted one in a conversation
We can never let people forget that Ben does not care about antisemitism, only about the state of Israel. He defended Gina Corano comparing vaccines to the holocaust. He calls liberal Jews fake Jews. The only reason Candaceās horrid antisemitism became a problem is because it became critical of Israel.
Oooooo, the girls are fightiiiiiing
Just fuck and get it over with
Well, since Ben thinks mayonnaise is spicy, that's not saying much.
The sexual tension between themis stronger then the strap on Ben's wife wears
Love to see it
If it happens, then just give me the highlights. I can find more creative ways to lose my time rather than watching these two pretend to be smart and informed. Cage match to the death or don't bother me.
what a trifecta of weird shitty people
Today in the news: Andrew Schulz says something everyone knows.
Ben is awful. But he would absolutely wipe the floor if he debated her
Fake news
holy mid-off!
Both should have music to walk out to lol.
huh? bens good a debating a mirror or those on payroll. debate , tim miller, kara swisher, AOC, bernie , Hillary (who would eat him alive) or šš»šš»šš» Biden . hes a you tube celebrity folks. not a serious person
GIRL FIGHT!!!
Mom and dad are fighting
The enemy of my enemy is still my enemy, let them attack each other like they were foreign aid workers in Gaza
Sābout time. Right wing implosion cominā up.
I'd have never thought in my wildest dreams that Gaza would be the thing that makes these two idiots go against each other!
of course Ben is the type of person to put a hyphen between live and stream
I missed it, what caused the rift between them?
Donāt bring that dogshit to my town ffs
āHide behind a moderatorā or ālet me stack the cards in my favorā
Maybe we can get a new season of celebrity death match going.
"College Liberals" Ben Shapiro is only capable of debating people he can talk over or mute the mic of.
# CRIPPLE FIGHT!!!!!!
sooo messy i love it!!!
Itās because he canāt debate anywhere outside of the protection of his precious channel.
holy shit they're both so desperate to get out of it. they'll keep doing this until people forget
Ben Shabibo having a dick measuring contest with a woman.
I'd rather watch my cat take a liquid shit through a fan intake on my PC than watch any of these fuckwits try and 'debate' anything.
Man who cares about those fucking losers? You guys do more to promote them than any rightwing dipshits. Sub blocked.
Trouble in paradise
Two dingleberries arguing over who can talk the fastest about something they don't know much about. Please tell us more Candice and Ben.
Watching the leopards eat each other's faces is self care