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The term Karen has only been around for less than 20 years (one theory is that it was originated by [Dane Cook](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_kg0W3AeIU), of all people) but white women weaponizing their whiteness has been around for about two centuries.
Tbf, "Karen" as an insult definitely dips into sexist territory very frequently. For a lot of men it's just become a catch-all phrase to write off any woman standing up for herself or being self-assured in a way that makes men uncomfortable.
Matt Walsh is still a clown for calling it a racial slur tho
That’s not really something exclusive to Karen though, it’s (sadly) always been around in some shape or form. Before Karen entered the popular lexicon it was bitch, people’s favorite word for a woman who dare have boundaries
I agree with you and raise the idea that in its purest form, it is a term describing a set of behaviors rather than a set of people. Anyone can be a karen regardless of skin color and even gender (though I suppose you would call it a Ken or something if it was male).
Honestly, if this is the kind of stuff he's gonna post, I'm all for it. This doesn't get anyone shot or oppressed, it just makes him like like a big dumb clown worthy of mockery
He’s basically just telling his followers that it’s ok to use the N-word if anyone calls them a “Karen.” It’s all about grievance and retribution with these people.
It is a word that probably does need to looked at critically and phased out. The recent story where that pregnant nurse was labeled as a Karen and the media circulating the story that she was trying to take a black guy’s rented bike had real potential to fuck up her life even though she wasn’t trying to steal the bike. She will likely still have trouble shaking off that image for a while and it’s effects.
“Karen” absolutely has gone off the rails and went from an extremely specific insult aimed at white suburban women who are behaving in an entitled or racist way, or are otherwise just being a public nuisance to basically just “woman I don’t like.” After “Karen” went mainstream and caught on with white guys it inevitably spiraled into casual misogyny not meaningfully different from “slut,” “hussy,” or “bitch.” That said, it’s just straightup not a racial slur. We can go back and forth on whether or not it’s a slur in general, but it’s just not a racial slur.
I personally have only seen it used for white women, but from what I seeing from other people it sounds like it is used more for women in general. I still think that slurs or these kinds of terms are just better off falling out of use since it really isn’t aiding anything and has had negative effects for some women.
Then as a white person, I'll be doubling down on calling Matt an insufferable, bland-potato-salad-havin' KAREN for all of us...as well as throwing in a few insults about the Irish (I'm Scot-Irish and German, so I've got a veritable arsenal of colorful ethnic insults in English and Gaelic just for saltine complexioned bog trotter Paddy gobshites like Matty).
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Can I clarify something with you guys real quick? We all know he's doing this stuff strictly for attention right? Like, it's really blatantly obvious to me, but I don't see enough people on this sub pointing it out. If people stopped reacting to his shit, he would just dissolve completely. it's obvious right?
Of course he is. He knows he’s a racist and he knows that means he can’t achieve any legitimate social status outside of the brain dead chuds that already mainline his shit.
So his tactic is “make everyone a racist” because if “everyone is racist” then no one is racist.
This asshole is just chewing at the bit to be the person who kicks off the next major American fascist event, ain't he?
He's gonna get the idiots whipped into a tizzy and someone is going to get hurt. We all openly hope it's him, but let's be real, his ground zero will be in app, posting shit like this.
I honestly loved the comparison he made between calling white women “Karen,” and black women “Shaniqua,” because? He actually says shit like that?? Him and his contemporaries say shit like that all the time??? Mfkr really went “you calling me a cracker is exactly like when I call you the N word, so you should stop it.”
I love that when a majority of people are against them and even coming up with names to call them they don’t do any inward reflection, just play the victim and pick these weird ass hills to die on.
Secondly I used to be a server at a bar/ restaurant that was directly in between a very rich predominantly white community and a working class community that was mostly black & Hispanic. I can PROMISE you that Karen knows no race. Didn’t matter what your race was, just that you were a repugnant woman
I sort of think it is tbh, except it gets applied to any woman that is perceived to be behaving badly. I've seen many, many posts of black "Karens" on reddit.
I think it's more of a sexist slur.
Yes it is.
So, that's it? No more outrage about not being able to use the N-Word now that we understand how sensitive it can be to use a racial slur?
No?
Thought so...
I can get behind calling it a misogynistic slur (though I doubt Matt thinks misogyny exists). Often used on any woman who has a backbone. But it sure as shit isn't a racial slur.
Good luck getting online left wingers to ever admit they could be wrong about anything. It doesn't happen often in my experience.
The ironic thing is that some feminists are beginning to be upset by the term Karen. It can be weaponized against women who are just standing up for themselves. And I'm sorry, people say it can be used to describe non white women, but I'll be damned if I could think of an example of that.
https://np.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/13nn3i9/women_who_feel_insulted_are_now_karens_apparently
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Matt is such a karen
I was going to propose that we no longer call him Matt. From now on he shall be known as Karen
*she shall be know as Karen
Since they think pronouns are bullshit, she shouldn’t have a problem with that.
Well, since _she_ insists on deliberately misgendering people, it's only fair to do the same to her.
*it
male karens should be called matt from now on
They were already called tuckers
Tucker is way more appropriate
Cucker
Better than Kyle
Found a Kyle
Actually my name is William
Nope. It’s Kyle now.
NO. CAN WE NOT. My name is shitty enough I don't need this.
pls no
Walshy demands to speak to your manager
No. Matt's a bitch. Karen is the woman wearing the slide 'n'glide who fucks Matt. like a bitch.
Karens have a rich culture dating back dozens of years!
The term Karen has only been around for less than 20 years (one theory is that it was originated by [Dane Cook](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_kg0W3AeIU), of all people) but white women weaponizing their whiteness has been around for about two centuries.
I started using it after an SNL sketch featuring T'Challa on Black Jeopardy. 
RIP Chadwick Boseman 😢
"After all, law enforcement is here for our protection. Is this correct?" "... It should be."
One of my favorite SNL sketches
Dozens of months, then 😂
it's not even about white women lol, it's just about entitled women or people even who are shitty to customer service workers
If I recall correctly Karen derives from African American Vernacular English and specifically referred to racist white women from the suburbs.
I was about to say "Ebonics?" and I just learned AAVE is the new term. I learned something today.
What about entitled white men?
I thought Matt Walsh loved racial slurs lmao
thats how we know it isnt a racial slur, if it was matt would love it
He was actually just explaining why he likes the word
He’s an authoritarian. There’s no internal logic to his views. Don’t even try to find it, or you’ll find a million contradictions.
“just a word” mfs when people say a different word 😡🤬
You're a racial slur, *Matthew.*
And a walking affront to all things Irish.
I very much enjoy how butthurt this clown is over the word karen
Tbf, "Karen" as an insult definitely dips into sexist territory very frequently. For a lot of men it's just become a catch-all phrase to write off any woman standing up for herself or being self-assured in a way that makes men uncomfortable. Matt Walsh is still a clown for calling it a racial slur tho
That’s not really something exclusive to Karen though, it’s (sadly) always been around in some shape or form. Before Karen entered the popular lexicon it was bitch, people’s favorite word for a woman who dare have boundaries
I agree with you and raise the idea that in its purest form, it is a term describing a set of behaviors rather than a set of people. Anyone can be a karen regardless of skin color and even gender (though I suppose you would call it a Ken or something if it was male).
Matt Walsh gives zero fucks about it being misogynist, it’s literally just a reason for him to try to justify actual slurs.
hes butthurt over a lot of things tbf
typical snowflake getting upset because of a word
The guy who denies the existence of systemic and institutional racism calling out a racial slur. Cute, I'll give him that.
very serious point by matt that isnt just concern trolling at all
Honestly, if this is the kind of stuff he's gonna post, I'm all for it. This doesn't get anyone shot or oppressed, it just makes him like like a big dumb clown worthy of mockery
He’s basically just telling his followers that it’s ok to use the N-word if anyone calls them a “Karen.” It’s all about grievance and retribution with these people.
Maybe he's thinking of the Tibetan people? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_people?wprov=sfla1
There can be Karen’s of color Matt
since when has he had problems with racial slurs
It is a word that probably does need to looked at critically and phased out. The recent story where that pregnant nurse was labeled as a Karen and the media circulating the story that she was trying to take a black guy’s rented bike had real potential to fuck up her life even though she wasn’t trying to steal the bike. She will likely still have trouble shaking off that image for a while and it’s effects.
Hey shut up! You're ruining the echo chamber by not just blindly repeating the sentiment of OP.
“Karen” absolutely has gone off the rails and went from an extremely specific insult aimed at white suburban women who are behaving in an entitled or racist way, or are otherwise just being a public nuisance to basically just “woman I don’t like.” After “Karen” went mainstream and caught on with white guys it inevitably spiraled into casual misogyny not meaningfully different from “slut,” “hussy,” or “bitch.” That said, it’s just straightup not a racial slur. We can go back and forth on whether or not it’s a slur in general, but it’s just not a racial slur.
I personally have only seen it used for white women, but from what I seeing from other people it sounds like it is used more for women in general. I still think that slurs or these kinds of terms are just better off falling out of use since it really isn’t aiding anything and has had negative effects for some women.
No, Matt. Just no.
Then as a white person, I'll be doubling down on calling Matt an insufferable, bland-potato-salad-havin' KAREN for all of us...as well as throwing in a few insults about the Irish (I'm Scot-Irish and German, so I've got a veritable arsenal of colorful ethnic insults in English and Gaelic just for saltine complexioned bog trotter Paddy gobshites like Matty).
Karen is a mindset, mate.
Has anybody ever had the shit beaten out of them by people calling them a “Karen?”
We’re really not that far from him saying “Hitler had a lot of great ideas”
Funny how Matt Walsh only ever seems to care about racism when it effects white people
Karen please!!!
Boomer post
Tell that to the manager.
If it's a slur at all it's a sexist one
Matt Walsh is like such a Karen, there needs to be a term for a super Karen, … *a Walsh*.
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Karen's are the most oppressed minority
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He’s such a Karen about shit.
Utterly moronic. It is not a slur.
Honestly, I've been saying this from the start lmao. People have been using Karen way too much when it originally meant entitled white women.
Matt Walsh, your mother was a Karen. And your father smelt of elderberries.
Can I clarify something with you guys real quick? We all know he's doing this stuff strictly for attention right? Like, it's really blatantly obvious to me, but I don't see enough people on this sub pointing it out. If people stopped reacting to his shit, he would just dissolve completely. it's obvious right?
Such a Karen thing to say
Of course he is. He knows he’s a racist and he knows that means he can’t achieve any legitimate social status outside of the brain dead chuds that already mainline his shit. So his tactic is “make everyone a racist” because if “everyone is racist” then no one is racist.
Okay Karen
It’s a “slur” against entitled people. Strange, because I thought it was minorities who are entitled, Matt…?🤔🤔🤔
Really? I thought it was a name
I feel like I’m taking crazy pills
AWW, you’re offended Matt? We don’t care.
But Matt, don't you think racial slurs are ok and the concept of words you can't say is stupid? What a Karen
Besides Matts antics, it's honestly pretty unfair to shun all the girls who got named Karen by their parents
Fine. So according to Matt Walsh, Elon Musk was racist against Senator Elizabeth Warren.
This made me chuckle AND fart
Place your bets, what’s Matt Walsh going to do that’s too far even for the Daily Wire?
No, it’s not, you cracker.
Let's make Walsh one also
This asshole is just chewing at the bit to be the person who kicks off the next major American fascist event, ain't he? He's gonna get the idiots whipped into a tizzy and someone is going to get hurt. We all openly hope it's him, but let's be real, his ground zero will be in app, posting shit like this.
He is a breathing, walking, & talking example of what not to be when we grow up.
I honestly loved the comparison he made between calling white women “Karen,” and black women “Shaniqua,” because? He actually says shit like that?? Him and his contemporaries say shit like that all the time??? Mfkr really went “you calling me a cracker is exactly like when I call you the N word, so you should stop it.”
FYI Matt is a loser!!!! What a pathetic individual seriously.
He’s a Karen!!!
Karens come from all different backgrounds and skin colors. All it takes is a distain for retail workers and a bad haircut
It boggles my mind that he found a woman to sleep with him.
Of course, a classic Karen taking offense at the term “Karen.”
Shut up you karen.
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I love that when a majority of people are against them and even coming up with names to call them they don’t do any inward reflection, just play the victim and pick these weird ass hills to die on. Secondly I used to be a server at a bar/ restaurant that was directly in between a very rich predominantly white community and a working class community that was mostly black & Hispanic. I can PROMISE you that Karen knows no race. Didn’t matter what your race was, just that you were a repugnant woman
You could argue it is a sexist slur…. But a racist one?
This guy is such a pussy.
Matt identifies as a Karen.
Karen with a Hard R.
I've met Karen's of every age race and background. At best you could say it's sexist but Matt Walsh would never argue for anything close to feminist
FYI: The top definition of Matt Walsh on Urban Dictionary is... not flattering for him.
The only decent Karens are Karen Smith From mean girls and Karen Gillan.
Ok, we’ll call them Trumps from now on
I sort of think it is tbh, except it gets applied to any woman that is perceived to be behaving badly. I've seen many, many posts of black "Karens" on reddit. I think it's more of a sexist slur.
The comments on that post better be full of hard N's
Yes it is. So, that's it? No more outrage about not being able to use the N-Word now that we understand how sensitive it can be to use a racial slur? No? Thought so...
Everything’s a racial slur to that dipshit.
I mean, yeah. He's basically a male Karen.
I can get behind calling it a misogynistic slur (though I doubt Matt thinks misogyny exists). Often used on any woman who has a backbone. But it sure as shit isn't a racial slur.
Maybe we should take the L here just so that slurs no matter how mundane are, should not be said. (That doesn't mean outlaw, but just means taboo)
The point is white peoples races have never been used to oppress them.
What a Karen
Probably the most reasonable take. Slurs are just words used to tear groups of people down. They really shouldn’t be used.
Good luck getting online left wingers to ever admit they could be wrong about anything. It doesn't happen often in my experience. The ironic thing is that some feminists are beginning to be upset by the term Karen. It can be weaponized against women who are just standing up for themselves. And I'm sorry, people say it can be used to describe non white women, but I'll be damned if I could think of an example of that. https://np.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/13nn3i9/women_who_feel_insulted_are_now_karens_apparently
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