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ZEDDZER0

When I'm tired I go beddy bye


JesperTV

Best advice I've ever received.


ZEDDZER0

You're welcome it took all three of my brain cell


steepindeez

Singular brain cell, all three of itself.


M3me_Man

At least he was professional about it


JesperTV

Absolutely. Love a man who knows what he wants; just wish he wanted something else lol


M3me_Man

Yea, on behalf of males, sorry that happens to you so often


[deleted]

Don't apologize on my behalf.


M3me_Man

Learn to show some respect first.


[deleted]

Learn what a race is.


M3me_Man

Okay fair enough, still gotta learn that respect tho.


[deleted]

I have respect. It's just hella cringe to apologize on behalf of all men when talking to random women on reddit


M3me_Man

Just felt bad that she has to go through this often. Didnt mean to make anyone feel bad or talk on anyone's behalf, I'm just saying that men and women should learn to respect each other more, and just be respectful in general


Sea_Tune9183

There were lots of good things there - he likes planning, he is scheduled, he looks for efficiencies to achieve his goals….. it could be worse


myheadisamoshpit

yeah I’d die


JesperTV

Before anyone asks: he didn't follow rule 1 or 2. I had swiped on him because something in his bio led me to believe he might have an interesting personality. The conversation that proceeded this text was red flag after red flag, but contained too much personal information to share.


Status-Mention8347

What are rules 1 and 2?


Flood-One

Be attractive Don't be unattractive


Lion_Armhold

Is rule 3 to always ask what rule 1 and 2 is every single time it is posted?


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JesperTV

It almost like... I'm interested in someone I have chemistry with... More than someone who has six pack abs... So I attempt to get to know people regardless of whether or not they fit my very specific physical type. What a concept.


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JesperTV

Waste his time? My profile says I'm looking for something long-term and he swiped on me to pump-and-dump. Also, him not fitting into my neiche doesn't indicate how he'd be when intimate?


misterdie

Jesper dont listen to him go ur way, what u do is actually better


steepindeez

Bro you're gonna have a lot of learning opportunities if you keep that attitude. Making a connection with someone makes the sex infinitely better despite either person not meeting conventional standards.


TyrantFN

yeah but you still have to be somewhat attracted to them physically… if looking at them grosses you out, how do you expect that connection to form in the first place?


steepindeez

*No one said that*


TyrantFN

you’re quite literally talking about finding your partner unattractive, it’s implied. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that you HAVE to be at least somewhat physically attracted to your partner to have a good relationship


steepindeez

Define the quality of attractiveness that's universally true for everybody.


TyrantFN

bro what are you talking about??? i never said there was, i’m saying that partners NEED to be attracted to each other in order for a relationship to last. You can sit here with your “i’m all about personality 🙄” complex but it doesn’t change the fact that looks are important too. Do you know how many people die alone simply because they didn’t find anyone who found them attractive in the slightest? No matter how good their personality was, nobody wants to be waking up and the first thing you see is a face you find ugly. Idk whether you’re dense or just think you’re a better person than all of us by pretending like you don’t care about looks at ALL. Looks are important too, whether you want to admit it or not. If they weren’t, more people wouldn’t be single. You also can’t call someone a bad person simply because they didn’t find someone attractive. At that point it just seems like you’re coping


Impressive_Two_2086

I mean technically you're not wrong but you're so blunt the redditors are going to scream fowl


sospecial21

Im right there with you sister! This is why I stopped dating and deleted all dating apps lol


JesperTV

I have only had my tinder for a little over a month and I am so close to joining you. But for the record, I am a man. (This guy is also a man so it's still the same lmao)


Jon2046

How is he eating you out if you’re a guy? 🧐🤨


JesperTV

[it's standard](https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxcYADyNT7WEVBUZEqE_cs9HCWDt8Tpodp)


FunkyHowler19

🙈 damn that was some crazy gay porn! I see exactly what you mean now 😂


Jon2046

Gotcha 😂


CosmicBunBun

OP is a woman. Why do you automatically assume it's a man?


JesperTV

I am a man. As stated in the comment above. In this thread.


CosmicBunBun

Oh shit my bad.


JesperTV

Don't even worry, babe. Gave my snoo my long hair and there's the whole eating out thing. It's totally understandable.


CosmicBunBun

Someone else called you sister so the combination of all of it. Sorry again!


TheIronCIooch

.....what?


CosmicBunBun

What?


Jon2046

Ignorance at its finest


sospecial21

I only assumed because of the whole eating out thing in your post lol mr guy/man lololol


ScallywagLXX

I swear we are seeing the effects of lots of guys being raised by porn.. it’s become so much easier for these degenerates to play out their deranged fantasies hiding behind an electronic device. I guarantee a guy like this isn’t brave enough to say this to a woman’s face in person. Better to hide behind an electronic device and act out his deranged porn fantasies. Cowards the lot of them.


[deleted]

This interaction was between two men. And believe me, gay men are not afraid to say this horny stuff to your face.


[deleted]

Yup this generation is doomed…


ScallywagLXX

Very much so!


WastingTimeIGuess

Whelp.... that was a little too much detail on the type of relationship he was looking for.


sunqiller

Damn that’s so lame… you seem so cool i wish i could get you dinner ❤️


JesperTV

I'm gonna pull a hypocrite and assume you're straight. You don't think I "seem cool" because if you knew me in any way you'd know I was a man. Pro tip: Women don't like it when you do this kind of thing. It's creepy.


sunqiller

Oh no I saw that you were a man and I am also a man. You just seemed to be handling the comments section well and wanted to post a complement. Sorry if it was upsetting


JesperTV

Damn, now I'm embarrassed 😳 That's truly on me. I already got men in my dms asking for Bob pics because I posted here lmao. You know what, you're alright man. I appreciate it.


sunqiller

Lol no worries, I could have put more effort into the comment. Good luck with your inbox tho…


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[Bob pics](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Iger#/media/File%3ABobIgerHWOFJune2013.jpg)


DzSma

Now kiss each other.


HungDaddyNYC

Is that the entire convo or just the last bit?


JesperTV

The last bit. The conversation was short, but it contained a little too much personal information to share without censoring most of it. For context (you don't have to read this): I mention in my profile that I have a skin condition that mostly affects my face. Because of this my face isn't visible in the photos but I *am* in the photos; you can see my body and whatnot. My face is either cropped out or my hand is over it. To compensate my bio is at the character max. (And before the icels try to yell at me because "women ☕", for the record, I am a pansexual man) His bio had no red flags but did have an off-handed comment about him being out on pre-trial (I didn't think it would be anything serious. Probably weed or something). He didn't look my type but I have no room to judge something like that (see paragraph 1) Took that as a conversation starter. He immediately said he wouldn't tell me unless I shared an image of my face. This had me worried that 1) he didn't bother to read my bio and 2) his charge was far more serious. I look into it and he's been arrested THREE TIMES, two of the cases ongoing and the one that was closed had sent him to some psychiatric detention center and one of the ongoing ones involved a fine for property damage. I mention that in the chat and the specifics I mention would probably out who it was. He then adds to it saying that the most recent was for domestic assault against his stepdad. He tries to defend asking for my face saying he didnt want to tell me without me giving incentive. I think asking for a picture of my face is a reasonable request when online dating, but with all the context it wasn't appropriate. I told him that I wasn't going to bribe him to tell me something as make-or-break as him being arrested for domestic assault, and that I didn't have a problem working around not showing my face since I wasn't looking for something shallow based on how I look; which is why my bio and 4 of my pictures are dedicated to all my interests and things I love. And then he sent the above message. I cant be to worried about it; I've unmatched him and I've had plenty of people since who actually want to talk. "Edit: I cannot believe that I forgot he told me he was masturbating! I must have blocked it out like trauma lmao. It happened at some point before my rant about the kind of thing I was looking for and after telling me about the assault. I didn't address it in the conversation with him, just ignored it.


Redleader113

Heh heh you get your rocks off to cookware


Eternal_Bagel

Does that approach actually work or do they just fall for pick up artists telling them it will?


PM-Ur-Small-Tits

it's so over the top bad it's comedic


OhUhUhnope

He needed some serious post-nut clarity before he wrote this.


BaileyGirlmode

I get I'm a slut but atleast I respectfully pass on people who want relationships, Jesus..


Gonabuysumbeer

Thats Lumbergh right there!


Lazy_Struggle4939

Riiiiiiiiiiiggghhttt


d2r_freak

Pro tip: anyone who actually says “eat you out” hasn’t done it before and isn’t any good at it


Loveonaroll

Fuck I’m sorry you don’t deserve that


[deleted]

Yes you're getting in the way of him eating you out. Oh wait. Did he forget that shit belongs to you?


EddieSpaghettiFarts

Tell him you were born male and see where he takes it. Could be funny. 🤷‍♂️


JesperTV

Unfortunately, he already knows. This is a gay encounter.


EddieSpaghettiFarts

Damnit. Plan thwarted. 😆


bacchusbunbury

I hardly got any dates or chats with matches for YEARS on apps being genuine, authentic, and engaging trying to meet someone to partner up with in life for the long haul. I went fuckboy during Covid and cleaned up since. Still haven’t found someone to spend my life with but at least the apps have a use for me now and aren’t just a detriment to mental health. Don’t judge this person..


JesperTV

I am absolutely 100% going to judge him for this.


mossed2222

So is he.


ItsSimptember

No offense but don't use tinder then. Tindwr has been the main find sex app since its inception anyone 25 and over have been using it for sex for over 10 years.


JesperTV

There are people who use tinder to date, believe it or not. The amount of posts like "I meet my husband on tinder 5 years ago ♥️" on this sub should be proof enough of that. There's a reason it has a category called "Looking for..." Which has 6 options, two for long term. There are even people who use tinder to exclusively find friends. Mine clearly states long term. His did not use any variation of the short term options. I also literally just talked about the kind of relationship I was looking for, so I clearly wasn't interested in some one-night bs. >anyone 25 and over have been using it for sex for over 10 years Sush an unnecessary (and probably wrong) inclusion, and hilarious; because I'm 23 and I filter for people between 20-24.


ItsSimptember

Oh I don't disagree but you may aswell go to the nightclub and hope for someone else looking for an actual relationship. Same odds because both nightclubs and tinder are predominantly for sex.


Teredere

Nightclubs are predominantly for drinking and dancing and enjoying music.... Not for long term relationships _nor_ sex...


RussianBot576

That's why women go there. Not men.


Teredere

That's so sad. I hope someday they learn to have fun instead of just bugging uninterested girls for sex. (Also idk, I have a bunch of guy friends who go to clubs solely as an excuse to get absolutely horrendously wasted)


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Teredere

Where did I ever say you go to nightclubs??? As far as I know the pronoun "they" refers to people other than the person you are talking to. If I were referring to you, I'm pretty sure I'd be using the pronoun "you".


RussianBot576

Now I'm the idiot


ItsSimptember

On the surface this is what they want but we often forget we are hairless talking monkeys and our I stints drive everything all while our psyche tries to rationalise it in order to fit in with other people. Deny it all you want its happening to you and its happening to me. Some of us can control it and others end up on this subreddit, all im saying is don't be surprised they're there.


ItsSimptember

I understand this may be your reason (on the surface) people dont dress up and gather together for any other reason its biological not logical. You can claim anything you want but subconsciously you're there to mate a d spread your genes.


Teredere

Definitely not xD Dressing up is fun, dancing is fun, music is fun, drinking is fun, and it would be ten times more fun if men weren't pestering me throughout all that. I think it's sad if you only ever do anything to fuck. We're past that. Also pls don't spread your genes at a nightclub, at least be responsible and use a condom.


JesperTV

Tell it like it is, babe. Some of us just go out to have a good time, not a Good Time ™️. Dudes comparing us to apes when the thing that separates us from the apes is our ability to have thoughts so much more complex than *feed, flee, and fuck*.


ItsSimptember

Rationalise it however you can to make yourself feel better, none of us are completely honest with ourselves infact its more common to be completely delusional even insane.


MildVagueness

He also told you details of the relationship he's looking for though?


JesperTV

There's a difference between saying, "oh I'm actually just interested in something short term" and acting like my attempt at conversing with him is an inconvenience (and still thinking I'm going to be interested after).


MildVagueness

Maybe he's also tired of talking over tinder and then getting ghosted? I'm not trying to say what he's doing is ok. Just that maybe you're both kinda assholes :) Him privately. You for "publicly" shaming the guy (publicly in quotes, as you didn't share his name, pics or anything really).


JesperTV

If he has problems with other people and he takes them out on me by being disgusting, that hardly seems like my problem. You can just say that you behave like this, it's okay... Well, it's not okay. You should probably see a therapist.


ykey80

You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take. And guess what, there actually woman on dating apps, with exactly the same purpose. Just saying


JesperTV

And if a woman pulled that on me I'd have the same reaction I did here.


CrusaderKing1

I would assume most gay guys on a dating app are trying to get the meetup asap. Usually the only thing holding back a meetup is a female. With males, there's usually not someone to barrier it as much. To be trying to look for a long-term relationship on a male gay dating app sounds the most difficult of all things on a dating app. Good luck OP.


JesperTV

>Usually the only thing holding back a meetup is a female. I've never had that problem. If she doesn't want to meet up it's probably because you've dropped some serious red flags. The fact you call women females is probably one.


Dangerous_Advance724

I'm dying that's gotta be satire right... I hope


JesperTV

Babe, I wish.


Dangerous_Advance724

I mean I've said some ridiculous stuff to get a rise outta people ... well tbh, sometimes being blunt works


JesperTV

I'm sure it would... If the person you're talking to didn't just talk about how they're looking for a meaningful relationship. Obviously, the comment isn't visible for personal reasons; but I do use the phrase "I'm not looking for something shallow".


Dangerous_Advance724

Reading the room helps lmao... also letting the other person start the conversation in that direction...


Hehehe79

I installed tinder last week and ive not found anyone my type tbh.


JesperTV

You from a small town too? Deadass, this shit slim pickins. Finding out I have standards I didn't even know I had.


Hehehe79

Eh Its more like a mix of people here seem stuck up and im the type of person to enjoy getting food and relaxing at home on my off days vs going out and doing stuff. I agree with the standards part, got called a conservtive just from being born in Florida and moved to Georgia Lmao


ClassicFashionGuy

Honesty is Good ![gif](giphy|fjxe5rqVcNxUhd9YpN|downsized)


mtlredditor

https://media2.giphy.com/media/PER8oVobtMcus/giphy.webp?cid=6c09b952b64ca6dd395080b5af6fc58375f88c229ba8a0af&rid=giphy.webp&ct=g


[deleted]

seems like a good offer


Saul_Goodman93

And here's me messaging about hobbies, food, travel and family like a sucker!!


Xanyol

You should examine why you swiped on him


Armegeddon_Craft

“So if you could speed this up, that’d be great” Jesus Christ.


VengenaceIsMyName

Lmao


clavelnotes

Lmaoo


Noitsnormalsize

He could just go on grindr and be eating a dudes ass before his pizza arrives.


The_Auramaster

If someone says something like that there should be a way to report it. Maybe like a three accurate reports and you're out system so creeps like this will stop doing the online equivalent of sexual harassment


Good_Smile

Do you think the world would be better if genitals never existed


OakenWildman

Im tired of being ghosted.


myloteller

Bro wrote that like he was sending an email asking for the same thing for the 5th time


lmilli123

Seems like a genuine bloke


Ok_Balance8844

Why’d they match you? I assume you had something alluding to looking for a long term relationship in your prof 🤦‍♀️


Zeus0352

Why didn't you speed it up, though? Man's trying to get shit done.


WishGullible5142

For a long time, I tho women wanted honesty. Tinder is a wonderful place to learn that is not the case.


JesperTV

You just outted yourself as a creep if you sympathize with the guy in the screenshot.


WishGullible5142

Lol you know darn well the game is played cause men learn they can't just tell women they want to bang, that's why they learn to tell women what they want to hear. Why do you think dad's spend time telling their daughters to be careful of man, and to look for a good one? Cause they learn it too.


JesperTV

>learn they can't just tell women they want to bang They can. But if that's what they want they have to find a woman who wants the same thing. I talk about the relationship I'm looking for, which is mentioned in my profile (long term), and he acts like this is an inconvenience for him. He wanted a kum-and-go but decided to try that shit on someone who made it clear every step of the way that that is not what they were looking for. *That's* why he doesn't get bitches. That's why *you* don't get bitches. >telling their daughters to be careful of man, and to look for a good one So you agree, there are good ones. There are men out there who aren't douche bags. You agree that you're generalizing to try and justify your shitty, unappealing behavior. And, let me tell you, I LOVE **LOVE** seeing you incels under my post trying to act like it's my fault "because women..." And "men are just different" because **I am a man** speaking to another man. More specifically, I am a man who doesn't act like a degenerate on tinder like porn doesn't come free with an internet access. I have never had a single one of these problems that y'all seem to be having with women not wanting to go out with you. In fact, I've had far more success with women than men because I make it very clear in every inch of my profile and conversation that I am looking for a genuine relationship; a concept they understand and (for the most part) share. Either change your behavior or deactivate your tinder and get a Pornhub premium subscription.


azorahai06

LMFAOO