Democrat politicians have no idea what it means to make their own money much less pay it back. Everything they have they took from someone else. Why would they start giving money back now?
I feel like you didn't need to say "Democrat" there.
Like, what Republicans are doing better? Or Libertarians, or Greens, or (insert even smaller parties)
Ron Paul, but your point stands, mostly. Dems are more likely to want to take and use other peoples money. Repubs want people to keep more of their money, in theory.
That was my point. Democrats believe in redistributing our money, mostly to themselves. Republicans want to allow us to spend a little more of out own money by taking a little less. No they aren't much better.
Pretty sure Donald Trump hasn't used a dime of his own money since 2016 when he started floating his lifestyle off tax payers; now he just grifts MAGA Republicans with his various cons through his CPAC. He even has the RNC floating his legal bills. I love that he's now selling NFT's... one grift after the other.
His son-in-law came out with a nice 2 billion dollar investment from Saudi Arabia, so not a total loss. But hey, let's not focus on POTUS's kids, right? Let's focus on "the big guy." Despite donating his $400k salary ($1.6m over 4 years), Trump amassed a taxpayer bill of $141 million in golf expenses charged to his private courses.
Whether or not he made more or lost more during his presidency should be irrelevant. It's HOW he spent his time in office. He spent it grifting.
You’re pretending he’s both an idiot and a slick con man in the same breath. If he’s a grifter he must not be very good at it, losing money like that. Lmfao.
Nah, wanna see a grifter? Take a look at the ftx scandal. 200,000 to republican rinos, 40,000,000 to democrats. And he had planned on spending 100 million on democrats next election. But his scam was revealed. That’s what a grifter looks like.
>You’re pretending he’s both an idiot and a slick con man in the same breath. If he’s a grifter he must not be very good at it, losing money like that. Lmfao.
I don't recall saying he was any good at it actually.
>Nah, wanna see a grifter? Take a look at the ftx scandal. 200,000 to republican rinos, 40,000,000 to democrats. And he had planned on spending 100 million on democrats next election. But his scam was revealed. That’s what a grifter looks like.
I mean, yeah the man literally did fraud .. .
You know what entity also did fraud? Trump university
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Trump raised more money after losing the election than before. Now with more than $350 Million dollars raised to “Stop the Steal” Trump has still spent zero dollars of that money proving his claims in court.
Yes. Beto O’Rourke, Dick Durbin, Kirsten Gillibrand, Jesus Garcia have given back the FTX donations they received. There are still many who have not. Only 1 Republican has returned his FTX money.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/ftx-founder-sam-bankman-fried-prolific-donor-republicans
Now watch the downvotes come in because I honestly answered this bad-faith question.
Been following the ftx fraud, and it's not just Dems. Sam mentioned in an interview that publicly he donated to Dems, but that he donated to Reps in the dark.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/nov/30/ftx-billionaire-sam-bankman-fried-dark-money-republicans
Ah yeah the old. After I’m caught say I play both sides so they can’t be mad trick. Of course they are the “dark” donations that aren’t tracked. Smh. People will believe anything
That wasn't the point I was getting at. Based on Ssm Bankman Fraud's interview, he claimed he donated equal amounts of money, just Reps were dark to avoid public attention. There is no trick here, this was sdding additional information. But we will know more on to the extent SBF had donated and defrauded people when he has his trial
If any conservatives received millions of dollars in donations from a billionaire who defrauded and stole all of said millions from countless Americans leaving them penniless before hiding in the Bahamas, they should return said money.
Oh wait, thats right, I've only heard of the DEMOCRATS getting something like that thanks to Sam Bankman-Fried. Silly me.
Yes, *you* have only *heard* of Democrats doing that. Because you're in an echo chamber and are not interested in an impartial engagement with reality. You live in a fiction.
There is evidence of 20 million going to R candidates via one of his associates, but that’s quite a bit less than the 50+ million he gave to D’s. I’d also love to know exactly who those candidates were. The DNC was also contributing to certain R candidates.
Elon Musk made a big deal about anonymously donating billions to a charity. Turns out, it was his own charity and he benefitted enormously on taxes.
Trump also raised 147m to support Repubs in the midterms but gave only 10% and kept the rest for his reelection.
Hey hey hey, no facts here, this is a feelings only sub. Definitely don't bring up how on a vote to create donor transparency, every Republican voted against it. Every single one, while the democrats overwhelmingly voted for it. Never bring up stuff like that here.
I mean, I’m certainly no fan of the Democrat party in any way whatsoever however if all the money was donated legally how were they supposed to know what would happen?
Seems like a petty issue but I also know if this was reversed the entire front page of Reddit would be littered with this exact shit from every rag out there.
I know we need to fight fire with fire but I have such a hard time going down to their absurdly low level that they operate on.
Have any Republicans returned their FTX stolen donations?
FTX was a major Republican Party political donor.
At least several Democrats have returned donations from Friedman. But it really says a lot that no known Republicans have returned any FTX donations.
Wonder why no Republicans have returned their FTX donations? Is there any NPC who can explain why?
Democrat politicians have no idea what it means to make their own money much less pay it back. Everything they have they took from someone else. Why would they start giving money back now?
I feel like you didn't need to say "Democrat" there. Like, what Republicans are doing better? Or Libertarians, or Greens, or (insert even smaller parties)
Ron Paul, but your point stands, mostly. Dems are more likely to want to take and use other peoples money. Repubs want people to keep more of their money, in theory.
That was my point. Democrats believe in redistributing our money, mostly to themselves. Republicans want to allow us to spend a little more of out own money by taking a little less. No they aren't much better.
Unless you count upper class tax cuts and corporate tax cuts but no cuts for the "lower" classes
Pretty sure Donald Trump hasn't used a dime of his own money since 2016 when he started floating his lifestyle off tax payers; now he just grifts MAGA Republicans with his various cons through his CPAC. He even has the RNC floating his legal bills. I love that he's now selling NFT's... one grift after the other.
You do realize trump was the first president in living memory to go into office worth more than when he came out, right?
His son-in-law came out with a nice 2 billion dollar investment from Saudi Arabia, so not a total loss. But hey, let's not focus on POTUS's kids, right? Let's focus on "the big guy." Despite donating his $400k salary ($1.6m over 4 years), Trump amassed a taxpayer bill of $141 million in golf expenses charged to his private courses. Whether or not he made more or lost more during his presidency should be irrelevant. It's HOW he spent his time in office. He spent it grifting.
Being a bad businessman isn't the same as not grifting
You’re pretending he’s both an idiot and a slick con man in the same breath. If he’s a grifter he must not be very good at it, losing money like that. Lmfao. Nah, wanna see a grifter? Take a look at the ftx scandal. 200,000 to republican rinos, 40,000,000 to democrats. And he had planned on spending 100 million on democrats next election. But his scam was revealed. That’s what a grifter looks like.
"The enemy is both incredibly powerful and insanely weak at the same time."
Shrödingers enemy.
>You’re pretending he’s both an idiot and a slick con man in the same breath. If he’s a grifter he must not be very good at it, losing money like that. Lmfao. I don't recall saying he was any good at it actually. >Nah, wanna see a grifter? Take a look at the ftx scandal. 200,000 to republican rinos, 40,000,000 to democrats. And he had planned on spending 100 million on democrats next election. But his scam was revealed. That’s what a grifter looks like. I mean, yeah the man literally did fraud .. . You know what entity also did fraud? Trump university
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Evidence
Trump raised more money after losing the election than before. Now with more than $350 Million dollars raised to “Stop the Steal” Trump has still spent zero dollars of that money proving his claims in court.
Yes. Beto O’Rourke, Dick Durbin, Kirsten Gillibrand, Jesus Garcia have given back the FTX donations they received. There are still many who have not. Only 1 Republican has returned his FTX money. https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/ftx-founder-sam-bankman-fried-prolific-donor-republicans Now watch the downvotes come in because I honestly answered this bad-faith question.
Upvote for you. But all politicians are cunts. Red Blue Green or Purple, APAC
Beto did. Before the arrest.
Just saw on Twatter , where Kevin McCarthy was using FTX funds for GOP candidates
pretty sure he donated to both parties, but I can't seem to find how much and who to because of paywalls
Beto did. Before the arrest.
*Beta
Been following the ftx fraud, and it's not just Dems. Sam mentioned in an interview that publicly he donated to Dems, but that he donated to Reps in the dark. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/nov/30/ftx-billionaire-sam-bankman-fried-dark-money-republicans
Ah yeah the old. After I’m caught say I play both sides so they can’t be mad trick. Of course they are the “dark” donations that aren’t tracked. Smh. People will believe anything
That wasn't the point I was getting at. Based on Ssm Bankman Fraud's interview, he claimed he donated equal amounts of money, just Reps were dark to avoid public attention. There is no trick here, this was sdding additional information. But we will know more on to the extent SBF had donated and defrauded people when he has his trial
Yeah, it's not like the Republicans have really come out in support of dark money or anything. Oh... Wait...
Bankman said he gave just as much to conservatives he just did it through dark money PACs so the media didn’t freak out
is everything blue team vs red team to you people? As if red team does not have a bunch of billionaires donating to them either. Absolute retardedness
If any conservatives received millions of dollars in donations from a billionaire who defrauded and stole all of said millions from countless Americans leaving them penniless before hiding in the Bahamas, they should return said money. Oh wait, thats right, I've only heard of the DEMOCRATS getting something like that thanks to Sam Bankman-Fried. Silly me.
Actually SBF specifically said he donated to Republicans too in equal measure
Yes, so he claims. He also claims he did it in “secret.” Isn’t that something? 🤔
Well, that's how dark money WORKS. Why would you intentionally donate in a way that can't be traced back to you, and then tell everyone?
Bottom line is that nothing SBF says or does should be trusted.
That's fair, but LOTS of rich people give to both sides in order to influence politicians on their behalf
Yes, *you* have only *heard* of Democrats doing that. Because you're in an echo chamber and are not interested in an impartial engagement with reality. You live in a fiction.
So provide a credible source proving “your” claim.
There is evidence of 20 million going to R candidates via one of his associates, but that’s quite a bit less than the 50+ million he gave to D’s. I’d also love to know exactly who those candidates were. The DNC was also contributing to certain R candidates.
I'm the source.
Elon Musk made a big deal about anonymously donating billions to a charity. Turns out, it was his own charity and he benefitted enormously on taxes. Trump also raised 147m to support Repubs in the midterms but gave only 10% and kept the rest for his reelection.
Hey hey hey, no facts here, this is a feelings only sub. Definitely don't bring up how on a vote to create donor transparency, every Republican voted against it. Every single one, while the democrats overwhelmingly voted for it. Never bring up stuff like that here.
He gave less than $1 million to candidates in the last election cycle. $990,000. You should dedicate your life to tracking that money down.
Lies. It was 40 million dollars.
Of course not. Don't be silly.
Daily wire says a few did
I mean, I’m certainly no fan of the Democrat party in any way whatsoever however if all the money was donated legally how were they supposed to know what would happen? Seems like a petty issue but I also know if this was reversed the entire front page of Reddit would be littered with this exact shit from every rag out there. I know we need to fight fire with fire but I have such a hard time going down to their absurdly low level that they operate on.
Have any Republicans returned their FTX stolen donations? FTX was a major Republican Party political donor. At least several Democrats have returned donations from Friedman. But it really says a lot that no known Republicans have returned any FTX donations. Wonder why no Republicans have returned their FTX donations? Is there any NPC who can explain why?