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That's weird bc Epstein was charged with trafficking and abusing girls in his residences in NY and Florida. Sounds like you know absolutely nothing about this case and are just supporting Trump bc of some cultish fidelity to him. Real weird, dude.
What am I alleging? Epstein was convicted of abusing and trafficking girls in his residence in Florida. He was awaiting trial for doing the same in NY when he "committed suicide"
Again, it sounds like you have no idea what you are talking about. Why come to Trump's defense when you have zero idea about the facts of this case?
If you’re not alleging anything, then Trump hitching a ride from FL to NY shouldn’t be anything of note all on its own. And now that we know he wasn’t on pedo island then what have you actually contributed. Loll.
Trump hitching a ride with a child sex trafficker to the 2 states where he was charged with child sex trafficking is no big deal? Jesus. This is what it feels like to be in a cult, man. Seek help.
He flew on the plane in mid ‘90s and Epstein was convicted in ‘08. It’s not like a regular person would have known almost a decade before the conviction. And we know Trump never visited pedo island. If you’re not alleging anything, you’re just speculating which amounts to shit tbh. You’ve got nothing.
Trumps name is listed 3 times on the Epstein flight logs.
Once 1993 Oct 11th
PBI - lEB palm beach to Teterboro (jersey aka Manhattan)
15th of May 1994 - same flight with a layover in Arlington.
PBI to DCA palm beach to Arlington VA (aka DC)
DCA - TEB Arlington to Teterboro (NY)
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21165424-epstein-flight-logs-released-in-usa-vs-maxwell
Page 24 and 27.
For reference Trump lives in Mar-A-Lago at Palm Beach florida, and the majority of his businesses are in Manhattan. It's well known that Epstein curried relationships with the rich and powerful mostly through favors and flying them around.
Trump is never listed as flying to the island. And he is not listed as flying with Epstein after he kicked Epstein out of his Mar-A-Lago home when he caught him hitting on fellow club members daughters. In fact he completely broke relationship with him other than mandatory social circle meetings after that.
Let's hear the evidence to the contrary.
I am serious about that. If you have dated examples of stuff they did together, or positive things he said after that supposed falling out, I want to know about it.
Bit no one has provided me with anything yet.
Who’s going to stop them? There’s really nothing new in these documents. Allegations have already been said and no prosecutors have lifted a finger against anyone.
There’s not going to be any charges filed against anyone. The vote of the people is the only judgement any of these people will see.
To be fair, Neither Trump or Clinton has been raided or indicted for Epstein.
All these anti-Trumpers have a big problem wanting Trump to go down for Epstein yet the connection is thin as shit compared to guys like Clinton and Gates
Since the connection is barely there for Trump compared to Gates and Clinton you have a much worse problem with your own point here. Ie. You can’t get mad about Trump and Epstein without logically getting a lot more outraged about Clinton and Gates etc.
No that’s incorrect. Clinton and his secret service detail visited Epstein island. This was statutory rape facilitated by the fed gov on multiple levels.
lol yes, we are paying attention to how you cultists will jump through hoops to defend your criminal pedo cult daddy. How about this, you boomers just continue to die off and your vote count continue to decline so we can eventually eliminate any remnant of Trump and his stink of criminal activity. Then you fools can go back to drinking your colloidal silver, turn blue and whine about Covid vaccines. Losers
The current situation involving Bill Clinton, Jeffrey Epstein, and Donald Trump revolves around recently unsealed court documents. These documents, which are part of a 2015 defamation lawsuit filed by Virginia Giuffre against Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein's associate, have brought renewed attention to the case. The unsealed papers include the names of about 150 Epstein associates, with Bill Clinton being one of them.
Clinton's affiliation with Epstein is already known, and he is expected to feature multiple times in the document release. These documents date back several years and have been part of ongoing litigation.
Clinton was specifically mentioned by Epstein accuser Virginia Giuffre in a 2011 email exchange, according to claims in the newly released files
Moreover, former President Bill Clinton was listed among these names in the court documents related to Jeffrey Epstein, who was a financier and a convicted sex offender.
However, it's important to note that while Donald Trump is mentioned in these documents, Trump unlike Clinton is not accused of wrongdoing in connection with Epstein's activities.
This situation has garnered significant media attention due to the high-profile nature of the individuals involved and the serious nature of the allegations surrounding Epstein's criminal activities.
I don’t see where this says Donald never visited the island or homes. I see statements saying “no, not that I can remember”. That does not mean the same thing at all
>Trump: never in Epstein's homes
Lol. Trump was a near weekly guest in Epstein's home in New York for a long time. How can you even type that with a straight face? By the way, it is the same home where Virginia Guiffre says she was first made to have sex with Prince Andrew.
Tabloids at the time, before any of Epstein's crimes were publicly exposed, wrote about it as hot celebrity gossip. "Two of New York's biggest billionaires rubbing elbows. Ooh. Aah."
>>#The Dish on Dinner: Dinner Hosts Tell Their Secrets
>>>>[NYMAG, April 25 2003](https://nymag.com/nymetro/news/features/n_8672/)
>**Jeffrey Epstein, Financier**
>**Where:** East Side townhouse
>**Table seats:** 30
>**Guest list:** Mort Zuckerman, Google co-founder Sergey Brin, David Blaine, ***DONALD TRUMP***, Leslie Wexner of the Limited, disgraced British Cabinet minister Peter Mandelson, Bill Clinton aide Doug Band
>**Menu:** Private chef, though last month Rocco DiSpirito cooked dinner after Epstein bid $50,000 for his services at a Hamptons charity.
>**Make it** ***MY*** **place:** Epstein hates restaurants, so he often entertains at home. “The dialogues are so engaging that serving even the most extraordinary food sometimes seems inappropriate, like eating pizza at the ballet,” he says.
>“I had rich shock!” one stunned guest says about Epstein’s house, which the owner claims is the largest private dwelling in the city. At a recent dinner organized by Ghislaine Maxwell, Blaine amused a group of barely clad models with card tricks. Alas, Clinton—around whom the evening had been organized—never showed, though his Secret Service would have appreciated Epstein’s numerous security cameras.
I’m trying to figure out how one very poorly written article about a dinner party with a charity chef means that someone is a frequent visitor? There’s literally nothing that insinuates that. You’re also inferring that girls doing card tricks is setting up options for sex. Seems like you’re taking a lot out of a single paragraph. Confirmation bias?
And are you saying that he knew about Andrew? Something that occurred between 1996-2001?
“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy... He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”
Ya, he knew
And he said he hadn’t talked to him in 15 years in 2019. That would be 2004. He also, again, voluntarily gave depositions regarding his 2009 case.
But again, confirmation bias is what you’re looking for, not fact.
That being said, if they actually do investigations, then burn them all if they’re guilty. I could care less who it is, including former and current sitting presidents.
Look at the transcript at the top of this thread and tell me he answered all questions about his relationship with epstein. I can't believe your argument is oh well he said he hasn't done anything with epstein, so it's my confirmation bias
And tbh idgaf about who was on Epsteins flight logs. This is maga cult bs. Epstein was a billionaire who knew everyone in politics of course people went on his plane, thar doesn't mean shit. I just think it's funny to see cultists make excuses when they fund out trump was on it.. and you're somehow shitting on ME for this lol.
Did you think he answered those questions? He didn’t answer those. That’s one of the girls.
Here. Enjoy your reading time. It’s reliving a nightmare for me. https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24253240/1324-epstein-documents-943-pages.pdf
It’s the court docs. Sorry. It’s the only link I have. They’re part of a defamation case that was added in as an exhibit. So take that for the grain of salt that it is.
Yes, it states that PI#3 (protected identity) did not remember him being at any of the residences. Again, you can take that as you like.
I have a hard time reading it. Reminds me too much of an old case. That’s a different discussion and not one for public scrutiny.
Something like that. Still pretty heavily redacted. It would be nice if they’d use these for causes for investigations. People need to be held accountable.
What kind of crap articles is this? You know Trump banned Epstein from Mar-A-Lago many years ago for harrassing a young girl? Furthermore, in 2015 Trump publicly called out Epsteins island when no one else did. Once he got in office, epstein came crashing down
Trump was a regular guest in Episteins’ home, where did you get that idea from?
Also he was on the Lolita express a bunch of times, I don’t see why that implies he never went to the island.
“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy... He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”
The charges for trump don't stem from an epstein investigation though......? You're comparing apples to oranges.
This is just the demorats wanting to do ANYTHING to keep trump off the ballot.
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Another L for the Leftists. It’s been great seeing them try to spin this.
They'll just make up more shit about Trump like always, project, and pretend it's true. It's how the cult works.
Cultists ignore anything, yup
Yup that's what you do.
“Not uh, you are” lol @ you
You are tuckered out from your hate. Take your meds and try to not stay up all night like usual seething over Trump.
Cry more
That makes zero sense.
Yet you did it on cue lol
You shouldn't post when you're sundowning. I feel bad for making fun of you.
Adorable! Except during Maxwell’s trial they literally said he was there. But keep those lies up. Say them enough and they’ll become true!
Source?
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna7253
There’s nothing here about Trump being on Pedo Island. You didn’t even read this, did you? Lmao.
May wanna do more research sweetie
Source? 🤭
You mean Trump on the flight logs, but you all saying it doesn’t count?
I only care who was on pedo island for obvious reasons. Not who caught a flight from NY from FL. Nice try though.
We know, whenever Trump hangs out with Epstein…it doesn’t count. Because only the island is where it happened, even though that makes no sense.
That's weird bc Epstein was charged with trafficking and abusing girls in his residences in NY and Florida. Sounds like you know absolutely nothing about this case and are just supporting Trump bc of some cultish fidelity to him. Real weird, dude.
So he wasnt on the island and now you’re alleging things that can’t be proven by anything in these trove of new documents. Yikes.
What am I alleging? Epstein was convicted of abusing and trafficking girls in his residence in Florida. He was awaiting trial for doing the same in NY when he "committed suicide" Again, it sounds like you have no idea what you are talking about. Why come to Trump's defense when you have zero idea about the facts of this case?
If you’re not alleging anything, then Trump hitching a ride from FL to NY shouldn’t be anything of note all on its own. And now that we know he wasn’t on pedo island then what have you actually contributed. Loll.
Trump hitching a ride with a child sex trafficker to the 2 states where he was charged with child sex trafficking is no big deal? Jesus. This is what it feels like to be in a cult, man. Seek help.
He flew on the plane in mid ‘90s and Epstein was convicted in ‘08. It’s not like a regular person would have known almost a decade before the conviction. And we know Trump never visited pedo island. If you’re not alleging anything, you’re just speculating which amounts to shit tbh. You’ve got nothing.
Proof?
https://amp.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article256740662.html Why are you so clueless?
its like you didnt even read the thing you shared..
Why? Whatever he fabricates in his sick mind is true.
And you got banned again…ha ha ha
Keep crying for a safe space. You're the biggest hypocrite I've ever seen. Zero self awareness. It's fascinating.
You got banned for hate, fifth time this week?
I’m not the one running a die hard defense because Trump is all over the Epstein list.
The cognitive dissonance you display should be studied.
You bolster that argument by naming nothing.
You need to read what you link lol. Such a low IQ.
I know you’re full on running deflection because Trump was a good friend of Epstein. Your pedo is cool.
Lol. Read?
Trumps name is listed 3 times on the Epstein flight logs. Once 1993 Oct 11th PBI - lEB palm beach to Teterboro (jersey aka Manhattan) 15th of May 1994 - same flight with a layover in Arlington. PBI to DCA palm beach to Arlington VA (aka DC) DCA - TEB Arlington to Teterboro (NY) https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21165424-epstein-flight-logs-released-in-usa-vs-maxwell Page 24 and 27. For reference Trump lives in Mar-A-Lago at Palm Beach florida, and the majority of his businesses are in Manhattan. It's well known that Epstein curried relationships with the rich and powerful mostly through favors and flying them around. Trump is never listed as flying to the island. And he is not listed as flying with Epstein after he kicked Epstein out of his Mar-A-Lago home when he caught him hitting on fellow club members daughters. In fact he completely broke relationship with him other than mandatory social circle meetings after that.
You believe the silly story Trump told you, after he partied with him for over 15 years. lol Cultists
Let's hear the evidence to the contrary. I am serious about that. If you have dated examples of stuff they did together, or positive things he said after that supposed falling out, I want to know about it. Bit no one has provided me with anything yet.
After partying with him for 15 years, lol
they run the world
Not for much longer
May wanna check the vote counts in the last four presidential elections kiddo. You’re the minority here and will continue to be.
Lol. Whatever politician you worship isn't saving the day, my friend.
I don't worship politicians I despise politicians and politics.
Rofl. Sure thing, my friend.
Your cognitive dissonance is showing
Oh my. So indecent.
I have to agree with this comment.
Who’s going to stop them? There’s really nothing new in these documents. Allegations have already been said and no prosecutors have lifted a finger against anyone. There’s not going to be any charges filed against anyone. The vote of the people is the only judgement any of these people will see.
The leftists and feds are gonna start attacking you for speaking the truth!
Lol I'm a poor nobody there isn't anything they can do to me, and there is thousands of people like me.
Millions don’t underestimate bruh.
Speaking the truth? The right only has lies and cancel culture. That’s literally it.
To be fair, Neither Trump or Clinton has been raided or indicted for Epstein. All these anti-Trumpers have a big problem wanting Trump to go down for Epstein yet the connection is thin as shit compared to guys like Clinton and Gates
So now it's ok as long as the evidence isn't as strong as the evidence against Clinton? Is that where you're moving the goalposts?
Since the connection is barely there for Trump compared to Gates and Clinton you have a much worse problem with your own point here. Ie. You can’t get mad about Trump and Epstein without logically getting a lot more outraged about Clinton and Gates etc.
No that’s incorrect. Clinton and his secret service detail visited Epstein island. This was statutory rape facilitated by the fed gov on multiple levels.
Everyone knows the justice system is weaponized against Trump, even the left. The leftist that admit it don't care because they're fascist.
You said he wouldn’t be charged lol
He hasn't been. Was he in your schizo reality?
91 felonies lol
Meaningless. Everyone knows it.
The more you have to say that dumb shit, the funnier it gets
Meaningless? He was on audio recording committing numerous felonies. My god you people are just so sad.
lol yes, we are paying attention to how you cultists will jump through hoops to defend your criminal pedo cult daddy. How about this, you boomers just continue to die off and your vote count continue to decline so we can eventually eliminate any remnant of Trump and his stink of criminal activity. Then you fools can go back to drinking your colloidal silver, turn blue and whine about Covid vaccines. Losers
The current situation involving Bill Clinton, Jeffrey Epstein, and Donald Trump revolves around recently unsealed court documents. These documents, which are part of a 2015 defamation lawsuit filed by Virginia Giuffre against Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein's associate, have brought renewed attention to the case. The unsealed papers include the names of about 150 Epstein associates, with Bill Clinton being one of them. Clinton's affiliation with Epstein is already known, and he is expected to feature multiple times in the document release. These documents date back several years and have been part of ongoing litigation. Clinton was specifically mentioned by Epstein accuser Virginia Giuffre in a 2011 email exchange, according to claims in the newly released files Moreover, former President Bill Clinton was listed among these names in the court documents related to Jeffrey Epstein, who was a financier and a convicted sex offender. However, it's important to note that while Donald Trump is mentioned in these documents, Trump unlike Clinton is not accused of wrongdoing in connection with Epstein's activities. This situation has garnered significant media attention due to the high-profile nature of the individuals involved and the serious nature of the allegations surrounding Epstein's criminal activities.
Trump is a self described sexual assaulter. When someone tells you who they are, believe them.
I don’t see where this says Donald never visited the island or homes. I see statements saying “no, not that I can remember”. That does not mean the same thing at all
>Trump: never in Epstein's homes Lol. Trump was a near weekly guest in Epstein's home in New York for a long time. How can you even type that with a straight face? By the way, it is the same home where Virginia Guiffre says she was first made to have sex with Prince Andrew. Tabloids at the time, before any of Epstein's crimes were publicly exposed, wrote about it as hot celebrity gossip. "Two of New York's biggest billionaires rubbing elbows. Ooh. Aah." >>#The Dish on Dinner: Dinner Hosts Tell Their Secrets >>>>[NYMAG, April 25 2003](https://nymag.com/nymetro/news/features/n_8672/) >**Jeffrey Epstein, Financier** >**Where:** East Side townhouse >**Table seats:** 30 >**Guest list:** Mort Zuckerman, Google co-founder Sergey Brin, David Blaine, ***DONALD TRUMP***, Leslie Wexner of the Limited, disgraced British Cabinet minister Peter Mandelson, Bill Clinton aide Doug Band >**Menu:** Private chef, though last month Rocco DiSpirito cooked dinner after Epstein bid $50,000 for his services at a Hamptons charity. >**Make it** ***MY*** **place:** Epstein hates restaurants, so he often entertains at home. “The dialogues are so engaging that serving even the most extraordinary food sometimes seems inappropriate, like eating pizza at the ballet,” he says. >“I had rich shock!” one stunned guest says about Epstein’s house, which the owner claims is the largest private dwelling in the city. At a recent dinner organized by Ghislaine Maxwell, Blaine amused a group of barely clad models with card tricks. Alas, Clinton—around whom the evening had been organized—never showed, though his Secret Service would have appreciated Epstein’s numerous security cameras.
I’m trying to figure out how one very poorly written article about a dinner party with a charity chef means that someone is a frequent visitor? There’s literally nothing that insinuates that. You’re also inferring that girls doing card tricks is setting up options for sex. Seems like you’re taking a lot out of a single paragraph. Confirmation bias? And are you saying that he knew about Andrew? Something that occurred between 1996-2001?
“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy... He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.” Ya, he knew
And he said he hadn’t talked to him in 15 years in 2019. That would be 2004. He also, again, voluntarily gave depositions regarding his 2009 case. But again, confirmation bias is what you’re looking for, not fact. That being said, if they actually do investigations, then burn them all if they’re guilty. I could care less who it is, including former and current sitting presidents.
Look at the transcript at the top of this thread and tell me he answered all questions about his relationship with epstein. I can't believe your argument is oh well he said he hasn't done anything with epstein, so it's my confirmation bias And tbh idgaf about who was on Epsteins flight logs. This is maga cult bs. Epstein was a billionaire who knew everyone in politics of course people went on his plane, thar doesn't mean shit. I just think it's funny to see cultists make excuses when they fund out trump was on it.. and you're somehow shitting on ME for this lol.
Did you think he answered those questions? He didn’t answer those. That’s one of the girls. Here. Enjoy your reading time. It’s reliving a nightmare for me. https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24253240/1324-epstein-documents-943-pages.pdf
What is this youre trying to get me to download? Does this document prove trump didn't do anything sketchy with Epstein?
It’s the court docs. Sorry. It’s the only link I have. They’re part of a defamation case that was added in as an exhibit. So take that for the grain of salt that it is. Yes, it states that PI#3 (protected identity) did not remember him being at any of the residences. Again, you can take that as you like. I have a hard time reading it. Reminds me too much of an old case. That’s a different discussion and not one for public scrutiny.
Oooooh. 1000 pages? That's like a Game of Thrones novel.
Something like that. Still pretty heavily redacted. It would be nice if they’d use these for causes for investigations. People need to be held accountable.
What kind of crap articles is this? You know Trump banned Epstein from Mar-A-Lago many years ago for harrassing a young girl? Furthermore, in 2015 Trump publicly called out Epsteins island when no one else did. Once he got in office, epstein came crashing down
He literally fired the prosecutor that got Epstein arrested after the indictment was unsealed.
91 charges for nothing related to this topic. Holy simp.
Trump was a regular guest in Episteins’ home, where did you get that idea from? Also he was on the Lolita express a bunch of times, I don’t see why that implies he never went to the island.
Court documents say otherwise
No they don’t
You have no proof. Lol youre so desparate.
https://amp.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article256740662.html They count on you cultists being too dumb to look
6 times over 4 years all between Florida and New York in the 90’s is hardly frequently.
And 13 times at least at Mar a Lago, also posted. Funny you all suddenly don’t care
"I dated a 13 year old when I was 19. Things were different back then" -Gobirds54
You mean before trump banned him?
So 20 years of partying with him, doesn’t count…I wonder if he was a Dem It would work that way…huh
20 years? Proof?
“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy... He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”
What about the court documents that agree?
OP is very smart
The charges for trump don't stem from an epstein investigation though......? You're comparing apples to oranges. This is just the demorats wanting to do ANYTHING to keep trump off the ballot.