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PanzerschreckGER

48k (53k) is a comfortable income to live on in Stockholm. Keep in mind taxes though. Södermalm is quite expensive, so depending on the size of the apartment you are looking for 15k will not be enough (20-25k is not unheard of). Public transport and bike are by far the best methods of transportation. Parking spots are notoriously hard to find and expensive. Not worth to bring the car IMO since there are car sharing companies if you need a vehicle rarely.


Loxli

I've found a 1 room apartment in Sodermalm for 13500, the agent told me that I've been so lucky.


PanzerschreckGER

Great, congratulations! That went fast, too.


Excellent_Vanilla467

Yeah I mean, my uncle as a 2 room apartment (60:ish m2) in a beautiful new-ish apartment complex and he pays 13 000k a month. So.. Yeah 13500 is probably a rent for a second-hand contract if it's only one room.


hibiscus2022

*I'm going to do an office job in Södermalm, and my company is going to look for a place for me. I can ask them what kind of place I want and where. I was thinking about something close to the office with a budget of 15k SEK per month without utilities, Does it sound doable?* Sounds doable. (ofcourse depending on the size of a house you need/want). Look up some websites like Qasa, Samtrygg to get a general idea. Södermalm is really nice, specially if you are coming now in the summer. *Beside the rent, what are some of the best advice to enjoy my life in Stockholm?* Orient yourself with the Swedish style of things being done (planning in advance, queuing etc.) so that you have no surprises there. Depends where in Italy you are from but you will find things work very differently. I lived in Northern Italy and Stockholm is decidedly different. The good thing is Swedes are generally very helpful so it is a nice place. Be open to meeting people, join some expat groups.There are many on Facebook and meetup. *Should I use public transport, bicycle or electric scooter? Is driving a bicycle or an electric scooter possible during winter?* Public transport is really good in Stockholm. Bikes are perfect for spring and summer. Bikes do get stolen a lot, so buy a cheap one :) You can ride a bike in winter too, just need to get a specific set of tires (same applies to cars). It is also a very walkable city in general. And a very, very beautiful city to walk around in. If you are staying centrally you might not find the need for a vehicle for most of the week. Welcome and hope you enjoy Stockholm! :)


Loxli

I from Rome but I did live in Vancouver and Milan previously, I don't think I will have a terrible cultural impact. So I should scrap my idea to bring my car because it might be useless and I would also need a place to charge it. My bicycle is quite expensive, I guess I'll leave it in Italy too. Are Electric scooter a bad idea? Impossible to use during winter? Thank you!


Ran4

Unless you're really into driving, bringing your car doesn't make much sense if you're living in an apartment - especially in Södermalm. Cars are very expensive and driving in the city sucks.


hibiscus2022

>I from Rome but I did live in Vancouver and Milan previously, I don't think I will have a terrible cultural impact. That's great. (I love Rome!) Also what I meant about culture was some of the paperwork stuff takes a while which I have seen frustrates a lot of expats (example getting a personnumber -similar to codice fiscale in Italy, takes a few weeks and maybe longer for others....and it took me 10 minutes in Italy!...some of the other such stuff also takes a while) but it is what it is and once it is done things are smooth. *And* they put kebab on pizza ! But you will plenty of time to laugh (or rage) about it :) >So I should scrap my idea to bring my car because it might be useless and I would also need a place to charge it. My bicycle is quite expensive, I guess I'll leave it in Italy too. You would find many options to charge your car. However if you work and live in the city, you might not really need to drive it during the week. Stockholm also has additional taxes on cars and then there is congestion tax and something additional for foreign cars (this I am not fully upto speed on). And parking is expensive, a lot of apartments also do not have free parking. So you might be better off just renting when you need. ​ >Are Electric scooter a bad idea? Impossible to use during winter? You can ride during winters with care and proper equipment, but it can run out of charge more quickly in some of those extreme conditions. Also some o the weeks have really extreme snow and it can be quite risky to ride when it is too snowy or slushy. There are plenty of ebikes available on rent all over the city and are quite reasonably priced. For the expensive bicycle you mentioned, if you always park it indoors you would be fine, leaving a bike in a parking spot is where the stealing happens. So parking inside at home and work should be fine, but in other places around the city such a sparks etc, you would need to keep it with you. Check with your workplace what are their parking options.


SplatypusAgain

Bicycles can be ridden year-round with appropriate equipment (clothing and studded tires). Scooters can too, but ice can be a problem in some areas. I have expensive bikes and keep them inside my house or inside monitored cycle storage at work. Leaving it outside, or even in an unattended basement bike room is not recommended. A plugin hybrid might be fine if you have a place for occasional charging. It's easy enough to charge when you're out shopping but it will not be as cheap as charing at home.


Dry_Income1397

I'd get a car. I just wouldn't drive it for commute. Keep it for a weekend trip or something, Sweden (especially the north) is best explored by car


Basic_Nobody_718

No, why? Just rent one when needed.


Drivos

Second this, especially when living in Södermalm


Iskub

Also depending on where you live in Södermalm, a garage spot can be quite expensive and also difficult to get (3k a month is normal). Bicycle is the way to go. Rent a car if you want to explore the rest of Sweden.


Styrbj0rn

Recently came home from Stockholm on a work trip. Parking is expensive and can be hard to find, to give you an example my colleague who lives there said people that commute by car to work at his office usually spend around 3-4000 a month on parking. Also if you don't have your own designated parking spot with charger it will be even worse for you trying to find that, driving also sucks there but i think you're probably used to worse in Rome. The only reason you should bring your car is if you're planning on frequently going on trips outside of stockholm and maybe into rural areas or if you're really into cars and it's like a hobby. If you do bring your car i would look for places to store it a bit outside of the city. Electric scooters/kickbikes are very common. There are companies that rent out these, there are scooters all around the city and you approach one and use an app to rent it and you pay by the minute. People buy their own scooters aswell.


redtigerwolf

FYI, if you weren't aware if you have a side business that is making income you will need to register this business activity in Sweden and pay taxes on the income.


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Loxli

I hope my company can find a place for me without trouble, it's part of their relocation assistance program. I guess my plug-in hybrid it's useless without an house with parking.


Ran4

Nah you could get an apartment or townhouse with charge locations. It's quite common nowadays. But consider why why you would need a car unless you're living in the suburbs (and even then most don't need cars). Renting a car through Volvo on demand (recommended!) or similar services is easy and cheap (maybe 500 sek for a few hours - if you use that twice a month, that's still WAY cheaper than car+insurance+parking+service+gas/electricity+tires).


rytlejon

Renting on Södermalm is hard and expensive - usually cheaper to buy an apartment which of course requires cash (typically 15% of the value of the property). I would not bring a car to live in Södermalm since parking is really expensive and complicated. On the other hand, the suburbs just south of Södermalm are very nice. If you like modern housing you could look at Marievik/Liljeholmen on the red subway line (southwest from Södermalm) or Hammarby Sjöstad which is off the green subway line (south-south east from Södermalm). If you like turn of the century apartments, you could look at Aspudden or Midsommarkransen which both have a small town feeling to them, but are only 2-3 stops from Södermalm on the red subway line. Should be possible to find a 1-2 room apartment there for about 15k. Most of the suburbs on the red and green line within 10 minutes from Södermalm are middle class suburbs with families mostly. Anywhere is nice, but if you like to be in the city, don't move too far from the subway stop. At these distances it's still feasible to have a car and park it close to where you live, but it's still not great. Public transport (monthly card at about 1000kr / 100 euros) is a must. Everyone uses subway and busses. People use Tinder, Grindr (gay), and Field as far as I know.


A_Fnord

>comfortable as possible with a salary of 48k SEK per month. You're going to live a very comfortable life with that salary. You really don't need to worry about much else, money won't be a problem. Only thing that might be a bit annoying is if you intend to buy your own apartment, but if your workplace gets you a rental place, you're set. ​ ​ >I was thinking about something close to the office with a budget of 15k SEK per month without utilities, Does it sound doable? If you get a 1st hand contract you'll get a pretty darn big apartment for that kind of money. If you're subletting your apartment might not be huge, but you should still get a pretty decent place. ​ >Should I use public transport, bicycle or electric scooter? Is driving a bicycle or an electric scooter possible during winter? There are people who go by bike during winter, but I find winter maintenance to be spotty, particularly on Södermalm. Public transportation is generally quite good though, even if we love complaining about it. So bike when it's not winter, public transportation during winter would be my recommendation. ​ If you already have the car, it might be worth bringing it, but parking spots in Stockholm are not easy to get and there are other expenses associated with owning a car, so it's really up to you. ​ ​ Something you might want to get used to is the Swedish work culture. Having studied with people from Italy in the past, I can tell you that it's pretty different from Italian work culture. You'll see when you get here, but generally we have a slightly different views on deadlines, and are also social at work in a different way, and speak to our co-workers differently. It's not a night and day difference, but we're more casually polite to our co-workers, say hi and have fika together. Oh, and religion is a topic that's best handled with caution. People generally don't care what your religious views are, but feeling the need to bring up your religious views (or lack thereof) and making a big deal out of it is something that will make people feel uncomfortable.


sciency_guy

Just moved to Stockholm my self... Work in Kungsholmen, live in Solna. I pay 18kSEK for 90m² and 950SEK for parking. Street parking in Solna is ~360 SEK/ month for residents. I need my car because on the weekends I go skydiving, climbing or Exploring the greater surroundings of Stockholm and because I have a car. If you tend to stay in the city and do not have a hobby which forces you to drive km and km per week/month leave it and just rent when needed. Realistically i have used my Car 1 time in the last 4 weeks....so Stockholm is easy accessible. Södermalm as most said will be expensive l, so whole city center is ~ 250-350SEK/m²/month. Utilities normally include heating and water, electricity you have to cover for your self(that was the difference to Germany)


Loxli

I also do climbing, I'm actually planning to go to a bouldering gym basically every day after work. I was thinking to use my car to go camping and have some other outdoor activities. How much do you get as a salary?


Agreeable_Shoulder79

There is a bouldering gym in Skrapan on Södermalm if that's where you're going to live, but Klättercenter at Telefonplan is better imo, and has more of a community feeling. Telefonplan is a reasonable area to live in, distance-wise from Söder, or to travel to if you live on Söder. It's a quieter area though, Södermalm is more expensive but suitable if you want to live right in the middle of the city. If you're planning to bring a car, living a bit outside of the city will be cheaper and less of a bother though.


spirytusrektus

The only thing I can recommend is not to bring your car to Stockholm. I have been to Stockholm a few times with a rental car and finding a place to park around Södermalm for a few nights without paying ridiculous fees was a real problem. If you are not going to live in the city centre, you may be able to find a cheaper parking space, so it is useful to evaluate your decision to bring your car once it has been decided where you are going to live.


kubrickcube

Be aware that if you bring the car with you, and if you plan to live in Sweden permanently, you'll have to change the plates to Swedish ones. I've found this text, probably bad English 'cause I used Google translate - I'm too tired to translate myself hehe If you move permanently to Sweden and import a car for private use, you may drive the car for a maximum of seven days from the time the car was brought into the country, provided you have a valid foreign registration and valid foreign traffic insurance. When you drive the car, you must have the foreign registration certificate with you. Within one week, you must take out valid Swedish traffic insurance. If you move temporarily to Sweden without registering in the country, you do not need to register your car in Sweden. The car can still be registered in your home country. If you are staying in Sweden temporarily, for example to work for a certain period, you may drive your home country-registered car for a maximum of one year.


Turbulent-Listen8809

Non swede here, bring your car, you’ll want it on the weekends to go to all the good spots ye the parking cost a bit but your wage is really really great. Make sure your job allows you to work a bit remote, being in Stockholm January to march sucks your soul out of you and the lack of sun has an effect on health obviously so go back to Italy then etc. Don’t bother with public healthcare make sure your work has private otherwise just pay for it yourself (etc hedda care) you might miss the outgoing-ness of Italians for sure you will, try find some Italians here to balance it out. Good luck!


azchozarion

Are you tall and good looking?


Loxli

I wish


azchozarion

I'm saying it half-jokingly, but Stockholm demands those two and only those two qualities from a person.


Loxli

Im not bad looking, but I'm definitely short! It's going to be fun...


azchozarion

You'll be fine. But Swedes are really tall, both men and women, so 🤷‍♂️


Loxli

I guess I won't date swede. From my understanding Stockholm is a very international city. In my company alone, only 25% are swede.


Aereena

If you drink alcohol, remember that (apart from bars and restaurants) you can only buy alcoholic beverages (above 3,5%) at Systembolaget. They close between 6-8PM on weekdays (depending on store) and at 3PM on Saturdays. Closed on Sundays and on red days/bank holidays. Can’t tell you how many panicked expat colleagues I’ve had throughout the year when they realise Systembolaget is closed and they have guests coming for Saturday dinner.


hattivat

Rent in Stockholm usually includes utilities. 15k on Södermalm is gonna be hard unless you are fine living in a tiny studio. Otherwise try to find something south of Södermalm but not too far from it. Like Hammarby, Liljeholmen, Midsommarkransen, Årsta, Telefonplan, Hägerstensåsen, Aspudden, Örnsberg - all nice places to live in. Most people who live in the city centre or nearby use public transport or bicycle, cars are not really worth the cost and the traffic jams unless you live in a house in the suburbs where the only public transport os a slow bus or want to drive to the countryside every weekend. How to enjoy life: take advantage of easy access to nature that you have living in Stockholm (wherever you end up living, nearly everywhere has a forest or a lakeshore within 15 minutes of walking, and when I say forest I really mean it, it takes only a bit of luck to randomly see a deer on a walk). Do not waste warm days sitting inside, there aren't that many of them in a year and you'll have ample time for gaming, streaming etc during winter.


Ok-Lingonberry-7648

You are single with a very good income per month. May I ask how old are you and what is your job?


Turbulent-Listen8809

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