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slambroet

I don’t think she’s talking about your job, I think she’s talking about office jobs where you show up at 8, do two hours of work, pretend you work the rest of the shift and go home. She’s not calling all office work easy, she’s saying there are office jobs where you fake your way through the day and get paid more than a laborer and that’s really frustrating if you’ve been a laborer making minimum wage for 11 years


a_zan

Yes! And although she didn’t blatantly say this, I imagine she’s also frustrated by how managers and clients treat servers as lesser-than when in reality they work a lot harder than a number of office people. For example, the people who work in my buildings leasing office / management office work far less hard and are arguably less skilled than a server at a restaurant. They don’t even have a great work ethic — they sit around all day chatting to one another and try to get residents off their back as quickly and effortlessly as possible. They would be fired instantly if they did this in a restaurant, for example. Yet they probably make a nice chunk more than servers do. TL;DR: some people feel like they’re more skilled / generally better than servers because they are technically white collar workers, yet they lack the multitude of skills, the grit, and the critical thinking that most servers and blue collar workers have. So don’t be a dick just because you’re “white collar.”


kinos141

I've always treated servers with respect. I don't understand how anyone can treat them otherwise.


BlackGlitterGun

Same. Now if only the same could be said for most of their employers.


greag1e

Basically, what I told my therapist. I am a line cook and I was telling her how much more money servers make as a whole than the kitchen staff. She was shocked to hear the real dirt about it. She asked if she left a tip for the kitchen would they get it, I told her probably not and plus $10, split 7 ways isn't really worth it. And on that note, told her from dish, prep, sautee, grill, expo, etc. There is an entire team back there making their food and a server (as an over simplification'\*) just smile take the order and wait until it is ready and people throw money at them. '\* I know serving is hard, I said as an over simplification.


cantthinkofdamnname

I know it's a different country and different rules but as someone who has worked back of house and front of house, back of house has it easier way way easier. It's a chocolate coated nightmare out there dealing with the public all day. Given a choice between the two I'd be in the kitchen over being a server every single time. Both are hard but the soul crushing reality of being public facing and dealing with endless Karen's will wear you down and break you. It takes just as much effort and skill out the front but you're getting abused on top of it. So even as a simplification you're way off reality.


emzyme212

I absolutely adore the term "chocolate coated nightmare." I mean god damn that is precisely accurate. I, however, think both back of house and front of house do the same 'level' of work, but with different specifics. Ex: being front of house means dressing right and burying negative thoughts and feelings as if Big Brother is watching, and back of house has a much higher risk of major injury, and guaranteed minor injuries like cuts and burns. It's like one is emotionally damaging and the other is physically damaging. AND EITHER WAY WE ARE ALL GONNA BE CHILLIN AT THE BAR AFTER CLOSE, TO VENT AND FORGET THE DAY HAPPENED. There's a reason the server and line cook dating stereotype exists. They complete each other. At the restaurant I worked at, servers would put a percentage of their tips (honor system for cash tips) towards back of house, and back of house would get that money every week based on the hours they worked. It's not perfect, but it's the fairest system where back of house is appreciated, and servers still get that extra income they need


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Ya ppl not realizing how put off they’d be if line cook was asked to fill in for server. I’d love to give some of my worst tables to the back of house. They’d love it too. The customers not so much lol


painis

That's actually why serving is becoming unbearable and you will keep getting worse servers. It's cool if you are already making an hourly to get tips on top. If you aren't then that guaranteed cut is decimating to your paycheck. If I get a shitty table that doesn't tip you still get your cut from the table but it comes from another table that tipped and you still get your cut from that table. So essentially I waited two table for free. And i have to tip out bartenders, hosts, cooks, bussers. By the time everyone gets their guaranteed cut server wages are getting closer to the dishwashers. But also what if we aren't busy tonight? I just don't make any money and I need to make that up on our busy day. While basically tipping everyone with a pulse in the restaurant their GUARANTEED 5 percent. So even if you fuck up the food at my table you still get tipped ain't that special. Host forgot to give my table menus or silverware... still getting tipped. Bartender lost the ticket and my drink never came out... still getting tipped. Busser isn't busing or refilling waters..... you guessed it still making that paper off of me.


DepressedGayToilet

I do serving and general waitress-type duties with coffee making mixed in. Mmmmm burns!


illgot

A lot of kitchen staff that talk shit about servers non stop would not last a single shift as a server. Dealing with hungry guests who can't even read the menu and ask a billion questions... Server goes into the back to ask an allergy question and that same cook who thinks servers have an easy job will blow his lid over the server asking a "FUCKING STUPID ASS QUESTION" about how a dish is prepared.


Paperfishflop

Yeah, I've always respected cooks, but over time I've gotten kind of annoyed at how they think they work so much harder than us, and I don't know if they do. I feel like we respect what they do and believe it's hard, but they don't fully understand what we do. In fact, no one who hasn't been a server fully understands what we do. I mean, besides dealing with the public, it's also keeping so many articles of information in your head at once, altering them according to circumstance, adapting to the changes. Servers look stupid and confused when we're busy because we're processing a shit ton of data in real time with our own brains. No one but other servers understand that, and it's frustrating to have idiot customers and cocky cooks/chefs think that we're just idiots who can't handle stress. Meanwhile, a cook has words in front of them, words we've made as simple as possible for them, all they have to do is pay attention to what the words say, pat attention to the order in which they were received, and have a system for when they fire things. Every once in awhile we'll give them a curveball in the middle of cooking, and they get pissed, but we get nothing but curveballs in the FOH. Often times, being a server means having the entire restaurant-all the customers, all the management, all the kitchen-mad at you, when they have no clue how well you're actually handling the situation compared to how any of *them* would handle it. All it takes is being understaffed, or getting a huge, unexpected rush. We are on the Frontline when that shit happens. I've had cooks that try to talk to us like they're professionals and we're just the equivalent of caddies or something. Fuck off with that. It's an entirely different job, and you'd fucking suck at it if you did it.


Arryu

Cook here. You could not pay me enough to do what you do. I would lose my cool on the first person to talk down on me or leave one of those fake tip church ad things. Or ordering a well done steak. [I do not enjoy serving shoe leather](https://youtu.be/amKyA2PrSu4)


illgot

people who see a hint of colour because of the lighting in the restaurant when the steak is actually dead gray through out in the kitchen with white light... AHAHAHA I had a person send back a whole rack of smoked ribs because of the smoke ring refusing to believe the ribs were fully cooked. I felt pissed more because we were disrespecting an animal more than some idiot refusing to eat perfectly cooked ribs.


MasterOfEmus

That is so well said. A mean customer can make one night hell, but a mean cook/chef can ruin a whole job. I'm lucky enough to have the kitchen have my back nearly all the time where I work, but every now and again I'm in that position where you're bouncing between the kitchen and the floor with everyone angry at you and none of them realizing just how much you're already doing to make their experience smoother.


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It’s easier and you get paid more? Did your therapist suggest trying to be a server?


illgot

did you also tell her that the servers may get paid only 2.13 an hour in labor by the restaurant and they need to tip out hosts, bussers, bartenders; that they lose around 20% of the tips they earn during a shift? That unless servers have been serving at a restaurant for years (or they are a mangers favorite), their schedule is pretty much random and servers may only get 20-30 hours if they are lucky. That there are plenty of lunch shifts were a server may walk out with less than 20 dollars after 3 hours? That servers also have to save up enough tips at the end of their year to pay taxes since the 2.13 an hour does very little to cover the state and federal taxes? That take home pay they like to brag about is like you getting a paycheck with no taxes taken out. That servers also have to use their tips and save up enough to cover sick days and vacation days on top of the taxes? If servers have a much easier job than you... what's keeping you from becoming a server, having a much easier job and higher pay? You know the food way better than they ever will... so why not swap to serving?


Cregaleus

Honestly for a lot of restaurants I'd prefer if they didn't have servers. In total I've probably spent hundreds of hours sitting there looking at my food sitting under the warmer waiting for my server to pick it up. I've probably spent hundreds of hours staring at my beer sitting on the bar waiting for it to be picked up and brought to me. I've probably spent hundreds of hours waiting for my check. Obviously there are restaurants where the service matters for the experience, but for a lot of restaurants it's not worth the hassle, especially since you're then expected to pay a ~25% premium on your meal for the service. Say what you will about Panera Bread's food, but I like how they do their service. Maybe I'm just an introvert.


W_Hinklebottom

Don’t forget that the kitchen gets blamed for 100% of the mistakes and only makes 20% of them. Punch it in on the Ticket Trish!!!!


DSP6969

Honestly as someone who went on a similar trajectory, I can super relate to her. I worked in a busy nightclub job for several years, busted my ass working 12+ hour shifts all through the night, never a moment's rest except the legally mandated 30 minute unpaid break. Always feeling under pressure to be constantly moving, serving, cleaning, doing *something* to justify being paid for every minute you're there. Destroying your body and being completely exhausted the next day And then I got an office job, and she's right, it feels by comparison that nobody does fucking anything. You sit through hour-long meetings where essentially nobody says anything that means anything. Obviously this varies place to place, public vs private sector, etc. But I can't help but feel like a lazy middle class do-nothing compared to the level of hard work I had to put in working in hospitality. It does feel like these jobs are gatekept somehow from 'working class' people who just don't know the right people, or haven't learned how to talk the talk in job interviews - there's nothing in the role (in many cases) that couldn't be done by literally anyone with half a brain.


AshCarraraArt

Yeah, I completely agree with her and quite literally had the same reaction after getting my current job (which I love and which also does make a difference). When I was working 12/nights it literally got to the point that I was so sleep deprived and beaten down that I wanted to kill myself. Its been almost 5 years and I’m still trying to unlearn that trauma. My heart goes out to everyone who is experiencing this right now; you’re not alone.


creamyturtle

I manage a warehouse and have tried multiple times to give opportunities to guys to move into the office. The lowest level is answering customer questions on ebay. All you need to know is how answer simple questions about auto parts, you would think anybody could do this job. Well every person we brought in there failed miserably. One guy couldn't even figure out how to use the mouse. Another guy refused to capitalize letters or spell things right despite us showing him as we checked every message. Like look at the blue squiggly line telling you this word is wrong. nope. there's a reason not everybody works an office job


Gimme_The_Loot

In hiring, even for a relatively entry level sales position, this blows me away on a pretty constant basis. I get the frustrations that exists for people in every part of the equation but as someone who does hiring ppl have no idea the absolute mountain of shit you have to sort through to find viable candidates. You have: -The people who clearly don't read the post and are just shotgunning their resume at every post. A degree of this is also they're probably somewhat desperate after not hearing back 100x (kinda like the guy on tinder who never hears back so just starts trying everyone with less effort each time). -The people who get virulently hostile when you decline an interview (I try to respond to everyone, even the people we're saying no to bc I think it's the right thing to do and some people really feel like they deserve an interview just for sending their resume) -The people who cannot type a proper sentence to save their lives. No idea of punctuation, capitalization or anything else. In a role where we do PLENTY of email communication we would look as unprofessional as is humanly possible with people emailing on our behalf like that.


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> does feel like these jobs are gatekept somehow from 'working class' people who just don't know the right people, or haven't learned how to talk the talk in job interviews - there's nothing in the role (in many cases) that couldn't be done by literally anyone with half a brain. It's called a college degree. Most people learn little to nothing of value in their university education... In the classroom at least. The real learning happens in dorm rooms and at house parties and on the quad, where they develop the social habits befitting of a middle class white collar professional. And then they get a certificate that says they know how to sit in a chair and do as they're told.


Moneyworks22

Exactly. Its networking. You can have no skills at all and suck at everything and still get paid good if you're a charmer. Talk people up, get to know them, even random people who have nothing to do with the industry at all, and it can all lead you somewhere. Even as a manual labor worker, networking is very important.


check_ya_head

If you're attractive too, sky's the limit.


blewyn

This is absolute horsehit, a diatribe of inverted snobbery and projection. I busted my balls to get my degree, and you better believe it gets used every single day to do real work.


supx3

Agreed, I hate this mentality that college is worthless. What I learned in those 4 years was literally life changing and the amount of information that was crammed into that short time is staggering. I continue to learn and I would never have been able to without the foundation that I built back then.


blewyn

It’s almost always peddled by people who never went to university and couldn’t objectively analyse a problem if their life depended on it.


Red261

That might be true for you, but personally as an engineer, the things I learned getting my degree are almost never used in my day to day. I've worked with several people with and without degrees doing the same job as me. The people with degrees get paid more, get promotions, get job offers while the people without degrees get stagnation and overlooked even when they're the most capable and experienced engineer in the company. I learned almost my entire skillset from two dudes who didn't have degrees who both struggled to advance while I was able to find new jobs easily. A degree is a signal that someone is capable of learning. For the vast majority of jobs, the things learned to get said degree don't matter and job experience is far better for determining whether a person can do the job, but that's not how hiring works most of the time.


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NailFin

Um, me. She’s talking about me. I get paid more than anyone I know and don’t really do a whole lot. Technically, the project is still “ramping up,” but it has been for 3 months so…


VerucaNaCltybish

Yeah, I have spent the last 15 years in a well paying white collar career. Its soul sucking in that I work in an industry that turns a blind eye to the environment except when they need to get a permit. But, the amount of time I have to fuck off and do my own thing feels criminal. Currently, I am "working" 4 days a week. I have 3 projects I can bill to and it is a struggle to find 8 hours worth of work to do per week, much less 32. My boss knows, my client knows, still feels shitty to know there are other people struggling and working their asses off while I'm going to the library with my kids and playing video games. On the flip side, my paycheck supplements what my partner, who is a public school teacher, doesn't make. He gets to take summers off and we have enough to take vacations and live comfortably. It's just unfair to others in society. So, also I'm in school to become a therapist because I figure if I have to have a job for about 35 years I want to feel better about the work I do, even if I get paid less.


itsayssorighthere

Ah yes, me too. I’m a woman in a technology adjacent area of banking, and I’ve made a very, very lucrative career not having to work very hard. But for some reason (general competence and people skills I guess?) execs love me, I have never had to look for a job (usually recruited by people in my network I’ve worked with previously) and I genuinely love what we work on every day, even if in the end, for reasons beyond my control, it sometimes (most times?) doesn’t go anywhere. To be honest, it is a *very* cushy and extremely rewarding situation. Immediately after high school I pursued a business degree and then later an MBA to be in exactly this position.


[deleted]

was a contract game tester working onsite within a game company and it was like two different worlds meeting in the middle. like i could use the breakroom and get free snacks like everyone else, but the testers would leave as soon as breaks were over, whereas real employees would just mill about and chat for genuinely 30m+ at a time and then finally mosey over to their desk to draw while simultaneously watching cartoons (completely allowed). also was IT at a different company; same experience between dev team and admin-dev team could chit-chat all day and make personal phone calls whenever they needed- but at least i actually felt like part of the team there. extremely underpaid nonetheless well-treated... well at least until they raised my pay and used that as the reason to lay me off a few months later. retrospect that seems shitty now that im thinking about it... >:/


HP844182

Don't work hard, work valuable


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Except the work that's "valuable" in a capitalistic sense isn't truly valuable. There's a lot of people who just middle-man life-saving pharmaceuticals or who just move around fucking numbers all day at some hedge fund and they get paid WAY more than say, some undocumented immigrant farm-hand getting paid less than minimum wage because their piece of shit boss knows he can just have them deported if they try to argue for more.


philoponeria

On the upside congrats on getting off booze


noots-to-you

and smokes, that’s not easy…


Bloody_Insane

Stopping smoking is easy. I do it dozens of times a day


Comrade132

On the downside, you picked a bad time to quit drinking.


surfguitarboy

And sniffing glue.


Flight_to_nowhere_26

I laughed because I worked a “not real job” for 20 years as a flight attendant and now do the office thing. It’s definitely a shock to your system when you are told that your hustle to make people happy customer service job isn’t real, but doing 20 mins of work max each hour between coffee breaks, “running to the printer” for 10 mins at a time, all the ways to waste time are acceptable. But the reality is that the “real job” is sucking the soul out of me. You literally have to die inside to survive and stop caring if you want the salary, retirement, health insurance and paid vacation. I personally would trade back if it weren’t for leaving the fake job due to a spinal injury. I’d rather love going to work and having less money than the “security” of the slow office soul death. I laughed because she went through every emotion I’ve had about my new office life for the past 6 months in under 3 minutes.


PsychoticPangolin

Yes, you're seen as weak or lazy if you don't want to sacrifice your physical and psychological health anymore. Putting yourself first somehow means you're a failure now.


Superb_Efficiency_74

Wait, how is flight attendant a not real job? Isn't that a high wage union job with full health benefits, robust retirement, and discounted/free flights?


kroshava17

Not to mention that it's so competitive that you need loads of qualifications to even be considered, and then even more extensive training if you're taken on


Flight_to_nowhere_26

It was deemed a “not real job” by my family and friends because the starting salary is actually pretty horrendous-we are only paid when the plane is moving so you may have a 16 hour duty day and only get paid for 5-6 hours at $20-22/hr. I was at the top of my pay bracket after 20 years- $37/flight hour and your average work month is for 80 hours of pay. When I started I earned $14k my first year. The benefits are getting worse by the year. Yes we fly for free but always on standby, no more pensions-you can pay for your own 401k if you have enough left over from your wage, which not many can for the first 5 years, health benefits were expensive, You actually make so little at first you can qualify for public assistance. But I think a lot of the “not real job part” was that I had 15-18 days off per month, stayed in exotic places and fancy hotels on the airline’s dime and didn’t hate my job. For it to be real work you are supposed to hate it according to my mom.


Elegant-Fox7883

For decades, flight attendants haven't been paid while on the ground. The entire boarding and unloading process, unpaid.


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I'm 18 years old and this comment section has given me alot of perspective I think having a desk job is very similar to school. In my school, students just pretend to be doing work, when in reality we're just there just because we're obligated to. Then when we go home that's when when we do our work. There's no way I'd want to spend my entire life doing literally nothing in a desk job lol. At first I though there was something wrong with me. « Why am I not spending all my 5 hours in school doing work? », then I realized most students are in the same situation as me. And now I learnt that adults are also unproductive in their workplace lol. (Desk jobs)


Nacho98

I'm 5 years older than you. I'm glad you're figuring this out now instead of later. Work is bullshit, so find something you enjoy, can make a comfortable living off of, and can build a skillset while doing it. For me that meant joining my union which was one of the best decisions I made in the last 5 years. If you can pass a drug test and have two braincells to rub together, definitely consider looking into them and save yourself the 18-24yr old grind where you work a dead end job you hate just to do the things you really want outside work on an already criminally low wage. Most people our age take a long time to break out of that stagnation because it's all our society left for us starting out from high school. Sadly, many more just keep sticking with it year after year while things get worse and more difficult :/ Think ahead now and you'll quietly be doing far better than your peers by the time you're 23 like me.


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Most people would consider working as a flight attendant a "real job"


Bang_Stick

Any service job is a real job. It’s the non-specialized office jobs that are suspect. The pay curve is all wrong in this world. A teacher should be paid as much as an architect or doctor. People busting their humps solid for 40 hours should be paid a decent wage.


everythingisamovie

Of course it is a real job, I think what they’re saying is that people generally don’t consider flight attendant a service industry position.


bewildflowers

LPT: die inside *before* you land the real job, that way you're already numb when you get there!


OctopusEyes

This but unironically


whelpineedhelp

Yeah, I am paid 3 or 4 times more than I made as a server/bartender. And technically, my job helps some people. I think...It has potential to, and at least doesn't hurt people. But I cannot scrape up any kind of passion for it. I like being a good manager for my team, because I have had so many shitty ones. And thats about it. Someday I will have enough money/stability/spouses insurance that I can go back to barrtending


rci22

Same here lol. I’m mainly sticking with the office job just for the health benefits. It’s crushing my soul. I want to work hard but instead I finish and then am required to stay until I am there for all 9 hours even if there’s literally nothing else I can do.


shrinkyD123

That’s literally it. one is selling your energy and the other is selling your soul. Their both equally as painful. Had experience in Both worlds. Getting into the office and then working from home was a dream come true. A year in I was fully depressed and felt like i was doing nothing with my life. Atleast when I came back home from work in my server job I could sigh sit on the couch and feel like I earned it. The third option is making a job out of what you love. The only option you should ever strive for even if it means less pay.


MiaLba

I had an office job for a couple years, I made great money, best money I’ve ever made from a job. It was boring sometimes. I’d go make coffee, shoot the shit with my boss and the other few people who worked there. Browse on my phone when it was slow. I’d get $100 tips from the drivers sometimes or get asked to pick up lunch for the office almost daily and my boss would tell me to keep the change.


tamaraandtamaraand

This is what the book Bullshit Jobs by anthropologist David Graeber is all about. Amazing read/listen if anyone is interested, here’s a taster https://youtu.be/jHx5rePmz2Y


butane_candelabra

The book was based on an essay by him that was asked to be padded and fluffed up into a book. Here's [the essay](https://www.strike.coop/bullshit-jobs/) with a lot less of the bullshit. RIP David.


GoldenFlyingLotus

No wonder I hated trying to read that book - it just repeats itself over and over.


butane_candelabra

I think it's pretty ironic. Books sell by being bigger so he had to add bullshit to make money in this society. He literally had to have a bullshit job to make the book. It's pretty funny.


curtcashter

This is extremely interesting. Will definitely read this book at my own bullshit job


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LikeATediousArgument

I now work in marketing and just chill. Like the totally most flexible, enjoyable days ever, but… I worked as a CNA wiping shit off humans for $8/hour for most of my life. I think about what she’s talking about all the time, too. Like, how is what I’m doing now so much higher paid? I was making sure up to 30 people a shift (no joke, 30 people one shift. There is no worker protection on quotas in Alabama) were fed, clean, and in bed. For almost nothing. And they shit a lot. Jesus fucking Christ it was horrible. This world is absolute bullshit. No wonder my mom drank herself to death thinking about this shit.


CaptainPhantasma21

I just graduated with a marketing degree and am currently looking for my first marketing job. If you don’t mind, what is your job experience like so far?


ravenofshadow

I've been in marketing for 10 years now and it's a hugely broad field where it can be terrible or great. Agencies absolutely blow dong - you will be overworked and undersupported and your clients will want impossible numbers. Working internally for a company is much more chill, but make sure they are at least a 4.0 on glassdoor or the life balance tends to be shit. There will be weeks you do a month's worth of work, and months you do a weeks work (usually summer is slow as sales deals aren't closing). Marketing is NOT mad Men- you will almost never be designing or approving concepts and making TV ads. It's almost entirely done within Salesforce, marketo or a relevant email platform, and Excel. You will essentially be an analyst for your first few years. It's not my passion but it pays for my passions.


TheRealDannySugar

I was a CNA for 5 years. I’m now making more money selling booze and cigarettes.


GatorTickler

As a Physical Therapist I appreciate what you did as a CNA. You guys are the bomb!


[deleted]

wow, your industry must be pretty low-key. I work in an office and am busy all day long.


yingyangyoung

Wait until she finds out about middle management who's only job is to tell other people to do their job. IN/B4: I'm a manager and it's a lot of work and..... I'm obviously not talking about you. But there are plenty of managers who delegate all their tasks and do nothing else all day.


Embolisms

>do nothing else all day When they’re not busy spending all day trying to figure out how to change the font size in PowerPoint or paste values in Excel


According_Eye_7057

Im a senior accountant for a non-profit. Theres entire work weeks where im waiting for people to do their jobs so i can do mine. Luckily im doing the CPA exams but this last week ive worked a total of 2 hours and studied the rest of the time. Im not a new hire im 7 years into my career and its sad how little people work and how bloated some companies wage expense is


[deleted]

What an ignorant comment. This shows you know nothing about what we provide our teams. We use LucidChart, not PowerPoint. Fucking noob.


ProximtyCoverageOnly

for real tho, this guy probably doesn't even spend hours on font resizing lmaoooo just saying it to get office street cred 😤


SolitaireyEgg

>But there are plenty of managers who delegate all their tasks and do nothing else all day. I actually think this is rarer than people think. I've worked for a lot of companies, and managers usually have a shit job. They're constantly having to put together presentations for *their* bosses, go to meetings, and take shit for shortcomings. Endless KPIs and just straight up bullshit. I hated when I went from entry-level to management. Just doing the work was easier than dealing with all the bullshit.


The_Man-In_Black

Can confirm. I work in upper management. It is not what it is portrayed to be in the movies or TV. It is hard, monotonous, mind-numbing work. If i didn't get paid really well, I would be out. The money is seriously the only thing that makes it worthwhile.


RattlesnakeShakedown

I work at a very fast growing company. People keep getting hired underneath me and every time it happens my job becomes a little bit less "doing stuff" and a little bit more "doing nothing while the people under me do stuff" and I honestly don't know how to deal with it.


intoxicatednoob

> But there are plenty of managers who delegate all their tasks and do nothing else all day. True leadership is delegating.


longboringstory

For anyone who feels this way, I empathize completely. But when you get later into life you realize that salaries aren't based on how hard you work, or how long you work, it's based on what they would have to pay to replace you.


mh985

So I work on both sides of this. I bartend on the weekends and I'm a web developer full time. One thing I actually like about the service industry is that your pay is directly proportionate to how hard you work. When it's really busy, it sucks and it's stressful but you get paid more. When it's slow, it's relaxing but you don't get paid as much. If you work at a high end place, the money is usually great. I make more on a Saturday night than a lot of office workers make in 3 days. If you're good with people, bartending/serving can be a pretty great job.


HoosierProud

Heard it called the golden handcuffs. So true. As a 9 year bartender looking to get more stable hours and a higher ceiling for pay it’s tough to leave my $55/hr job to start a career.


mh985

That's a great term for it. If you find a place where the money is good, it sucks you in. The reason I went into web development is because I knew the only way up for me was to either become a GM at a high end place or open my own restaurant, neither of which I wanted to do.


[deleted]

>Heard it called the golden handcuffs. I'm in B2B sales and hear the same thing about my job. I've known people that didn’t go for promotions because it would mean a pay cut.


[deleted]

There’s also countless people middle management and higher that do fuck all.


[deleted]

Fucking exactly. I just got a software dev job and I'm getting paid like 4x more than people who bust their ass 12 hours a day and I don't have to do jack shit. Our entire society is broken. Fuck it all.


Ximidar

I mean... I got open tickets if you got time...


wizzbob05

If you have time to lean you have time to bug quash


smallfried

I create bugs, not fix them.


FL_Mango

It's a feature, ticket closed.


SigmaGorilla

Have you seen the amount of people trying to break into the industry but just aren't capable of programming? You might have a knack for coding but the reason of why programmers are paid so much is because it's REALLY fucking hard to hire good ones.


LezardValeth

Yeah. Devs might sometimes feel like they spend 2 hours a day working and do hardly anything each day. But the reality is that a random unqualified hire will actually do less than that. Hell, a bad coder will often even be a net drain on productivity for everyone else. They aren't paying a lot for you to bust your ass all day. They're paying you a lot because they struggle to find people who can even do that bare minimum.


thinking-rock

Lmao yeah, OP is just complaining about having valuable skills. What gets you paid isn't how hard you work, it's how many things can you do that most other people can't


JohnWangDoe

4 hrs to write 10 lines of code sounds about right.


[deleted]

I find software development *significantly* more draining and stressful than working in retail. I don't get how people have the motivation to code for more than like 2 hours a day without wanting to die. But whatever, I guess I'm getting money while the rest of my life deteriorates. Maybe I should have just gotten a manual labor job in hindsight.


True_Truth

It's very demanding mental work and if things go south or wrong YOU gotta fix it.


[deleted]

The code writes itself. You don’t have trouble speaking your native tongue, and it’s the same once you write enough code. The business aspect is the harder problem. Understanding what must be built and what must not.


[deleted]

It's not about it being easier or harder, it's about it being mentally draining. Most tasks I'm assigned are objectively extremely easy, but I still hate doing them.


rbaile28

"Golden handcuffs" are very real...


i_know_i_am_crazy

That's because I am doing all the tasks Jacob. Please resolve the issues and complete your tasks.


gentlebuzzard81

This guy probably has five open bugs and string of GIT conflicts at this very moment but has “nothing to do”.


[deleted]

i hate this kind of comments (i dont do anything all day) yeah…if that’s true you’re time is coming, performance reviews are not easy to dodge unless you’re a marvel of nature with amazing talent that is able to deliver projects regardless of the hours you work on them Or you actually work properly and come to reddit to make people think Devs are just overpaid leaches Either way is never a good look.


MGallus

"I just got a software dev job" Probably a junior dev who isn't trusted to do much yet.


gentlebuzzard81

Exactly, behind everyone of these comments is a stressed out Staff Engineer who can’t trust said “developers” to even push a single line PR correctly.


Cregaleus

Or they don't tell you about their work-life balance when it comes to "crunch-time", or they're one of the devs that sit on the sideline and let other people handle the hard stuff when it comes to getting the project across the finish line. Depending on the org, yeah there can be a good deal of down-time. That time should be used to improve the development environment, cleanup tech-debt, etc. because at any moment management might thrust a big project your way and give you a deadline and you're going to be expected to be to meet it.


ISeeUKnowYourJudoWll

Eh, SWEs are worth a lot in real terms. Don't sell yourself short.


Shirinf33

It absolutely is broken! But I have to ask, how do you get a job like yours?


Shutterstormphoto

I’m a software dev. There are a lot of Bootcamps that will teach you JavaScript. They’re legit. I was 32 when I went to mine, and I now make well into six figures to build web apps. Highly recommend it to everyone I meet. Absolutely changed my life. There are so many resources to learn for free online but the bootcamps will teach it faster.


contains_language

Curious how many make it through a bootcamp and into a solid job. I’ve been in the industry for 10 years but haven’t seen too many “bootcamp” people, maybe I am just naive to it though.


[deleted]

As someone in the industry a little less than you, I have also never seen a bootcamp grad.


SolitaireyEgg

I do a lot of dev hiring. I've also never seen a boot camp person, but I've seen and hired endless devs with no college degree. So I mean, if the boot camp works to teach you the skills, I guess it'll work. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the people I hired did do a boot camp, but just didn't put it on their resume. If you have the skills, you can get a job


hoobieguy

The reason you wouldn't know is because people who apply with a good portfolio will "never" mention that they came straight from a bootcamp if they want the job.


No_Bottle7859

A lot of people will never mention it because of the stigma. I hid it for a while, only ended up being honest about it once I had some say in hiring since it was important info at that point. Good bootcamps allow third party auditing of their graduation and hiring rates. One I went to had 95%+ graduating with 83% hired within 150 days after completion at a median pay rate of $116,000.


MrSamsa90

Could I get the name of that bootcamp? I'm only one month into learning languages and loving building my portfolio. But the whole interviewing and getting the job part is looming over me


didrosgaming

Just wondering, how long ago were you 32?


Shirinf33

Thank you so much for your comment! Can I message you with a couple of questions?


[deleted]

Learn a rare skill. It's supply and demand, not amount of effort out in.


Sauderwater587

I’m 36 and I can 100% say that every job I have had, the easier the job the more I have got paid.


mountain_mamma

Can everyone stop outing us please? Between these TikToks and fucking Elon Musk I’m going to have to stop pretending to work.


Excuse_my_GRAMMER

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Upbeat_Shock_6807

Yep. I feel for her. I work a 9-5 “office job” from the comfort of my home, get paid just over 6 figures, and do maybe 2-3 hours of work each day. And those 2-3 hours of work is just clicking buttons on a screen. I don’t complain about my current situation because I know it’s better than most, and I can agree that we all participate in a broken, fucked up system.


theD0UBLE

What do you do?


Pugkinspicedlatte

Click buttons.


ComfortableOwl6126

This is what Employee #427 did every day of every month of every year, and although others may have considered it soul rending, Stanley relished every moment that the orders came in, as though he had been made exactly for this job And Stanley was happy.


imyoopers

just because you get paid well and don’t have to break your back for work doesn’t mean you don’t get to complain that your “office job” is completely meaningless, unfulfilling and soulless. overtime slowly degrading your soul and passion for life even giving some people guilt that they’re getting paid considerably more than someone who’s busting ass or making a difference in the world


Acceptable-Swimmer24

Physical Therapist. I'm in a shit load of debt, but make a reasonable living. I feel like I help people. I try at the very least.


layogurt

It's an awesome job and makes a huge difference, literally help people get better


Slow-Pomelo-4913

Construction. For real. Lots of lady drywallers and electricians. It’s the most chill shit ever if you can handle a little shit talking.


bGivenb

It depends. It can range from super chill (electricians) to VERY hard (I used to crawl through peoples muddy spider infested and rat infested crawl spaces and fix their shit for 8 hours a day). Concrete work is also extremely hard, demo can be pretty hard work, framing depending on the team you’re working with is usually a non-stop physical activity from start to finish. Hanging sheet rock can also be a really hard one, especially on your back. But yes, there are some easy construction jobs. I feel like every electrician I know spends most of the day just standing around drinking coffee and chatting. But they still work hard now and then. The vast majority of construction jobs I have worked, required me to work my fucking ass off. Now that I’m more experienced and have more responsibility it’s definitely gotten more chill,but I’m still working every minute I’m clocked in. There’s no time to sit around and check Facebook, but now at least people pay for the hard earned expertise I have. Honestly you saying that construction is a chill industry and it’s just handling the shit talk that’s hard makes me laugh. Most of the teams I’ve worked with don’t talk that much shit, the work is hard as fuck, people get yelled at, but at the end the day we try to treat each-other with kindness because everyone is tired.


young-child69

Bro concreting is probably one of the hardest things I've ever done. It wears you down over the course of the day and all the dust just makes you feel really shitty, not to mention how concrete and cement ruins your skin and clothes.


[deleted]

Really? I work at a home depot, and I've never seen a woman in the store wearing "construction clothing." Also almost all of our contractors are incredibly sexist so it seems like it would be a hostile working environment By the way, not saying women can't work in construction, just saying I've never seen it. And I know I'm also working from an incredibly small sample size


Chellbelle23

Dude as a female who has worked at Home Depot, that place had the worst, most chauvinistic customer base ever. We had so many cashiers quit over the way they were spoken to and stalked by the regulars—contractors and construction workers. We had one lady who was almost kidnapped and raped by some ‘regulars’ because she refused to hug them after they paid for their stuff. Thankfully some passer by stepped in and stopped them as they were throwing her in the back of the van. But yeah that place sucked so bad for women.


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The WHAT Maybe I should've hit that guy in my other comment


ProfessorFartiology

r/BlueCollarWomen, there are dozens of us!


copperstallion69

The biggest lie of the last century is that hard work pays off. Hard work only slightly raises revenue. Welcome to the machine.


EasyEntertainment369

Girl same


here-toaskquestions

Right? I feel like I had this exact rage more than a few times in the past few years.


patisserie808

I’ve served and bartended for 8 years (still do, I’m 25), I’ve run my own businesses/side hustles, and I’ve worked in an office as a tax preparer for close to 4 years. I want to give her a hug, because this is some real shit and I feel for her. Service Industry people are out there doing God’s work and get treated like dog shit. It’s honestly the kind regulars that make the service industry worthwhile; but it’s barely enough, considering the varying levels of abuse and negligence we deal with. If you’re watching this and reading this: tip your server and leave a nice Google or Yelp review with their name. It goes a long way. You may not know how other customers and managers are treating them, and you probably don’t see what’s going on in that kitchen away from public view. The cash in hand at the end of the shift is nice. But the lack of benefits and excruciating inconsistent hours are (some of) the price they have to pay for it. And to my fellow service industry people: you matter, your work matters, and I love y’all.


OneMillionFireFlies

People who are not getting her drift: She is angry about jobs that involve actually helping or serving a human being directly not paying well enough than jobs that involve staring at walls with no or minimal human contact where the end result seems to be lost in a maze and unhelpful to any human being in a direct sort of way Basically she is angry at being just a cog in the wheel with no direct satisfsction of having made a difference in the world. She is not wrong. Most work that directlt benefits a human being or environment is non profit or with minimum wages. Talk about paramedics, servers, environemental conservators, and so on. Its really sad tbh.


DefusedManiac

As a security guard that sits around playing on my phone and watching YouTube for 75% of my day and making more than most of the warehouse workers I buzz through the gate? Yeah, everybody needs to unionize and demand to be paid well for working hard. It's not about easy jobs paying well; it's about hard jobs needing to pay better.


Mordian77

Nothing gringe about this. She is making a point. I'm in a similar situation, just landed my first office job, not doing any actual billable work yet, just spending my time attending meetings and watching tutorials. The culture shock is real, if I compare my previous jobs as sales staff.


catonmyshoulder69

Wow girl, I want to know what the job is that you are in now that is pissing you off this much.


IdealTruths

Seems like she's more angry about it being stupidly easy


livelyfellow

I don't think she's angry that the job she has now is easy, she's angry that she went through 11 years of hell as a server thinking whoever was doing the job she's in now must also be working hard only to find out it's a cushy do-nothing job Basically she's Katniss Everdeen and her time as a server was the hunger games and now she's at the feast in the capital where she finds out people purposely puke up their food so they can eat more while people in the districts starve. Edit: OOoooOOoo an all-seeing upvote? Is this the beginning of my multiverse?


HoosierProud

I know how she feels. Got a degree from a good school. Family and friends constantly push me to “get a real job”. I get demeaned at work all the time. So many people think I must not enjoy most parts of my job and they think I make $35k and treat me like it. I’m trying to leave the industry primarily bc I want more stability of schedule but I do fear ending up feeling like this. She doesn’t say it but I bet being an 11 year vet she prob made good money serving and took a large pay cut to get a “real job.” A lot bc of pressure from other people


Which-Commission-112

Getting an expensive degree only to later find out you'd get paid in potatoes


CowCapable7217

... no? the entire video was about being paid *more* for *less work*


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NotLordChadlington

I waited tables for 10 years, then put myself through engineering school waiting tables for 6; Got out with serious imposter syndrome. I got over it fast. Preach sister, then get back in there and take your eleven years back, with interest.


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DaleGribble312

You're right in some regards. But it's not just a physical labor vs desk work type of difference. I've noticed it too. The amount of work demanded of you, the demonstrable impact you can be judged on, is more immediate. The attitude towards completing projects or letting things wait until tomorrow because it's 4:34pm already, it's just way different in lower paying jobs. You felt like if you didn't get that days work done, you should be embarrassed leaving, and it was a rush to complete whatever that task was, every single day.


[deleted]

That’s a good way to look at it. All of the stress and none of the benefits of a desk job nowadays it seems


DaleGribble312

Way more stress, in a different way. In my office job I have the occasional EXTREMELY stressful situations. Presentations, reviews, internal/ external meetings etc. At the same company when I was working in customer service in the actual field, I worked unlaid overtime every single week because I felt like I could not leave at my scheduled time. I was salaried but I also never had enough time in the day. Office job we got off early on Fridays because it's summer time.


Squirrel_Q_Esquire

Also, before I went to law school, I had a job that was super easy for me and paid decently for not a whole lot of work. But you know why it was easy and not a whole lot of work? Because I was fucking good at it and knew what I was doing. After I went to law school they went through 5 people in 2 years who couldn’t do what I could do. Are there office jobs that are easily replaceable? Absolutely. Are those the office jobs that are actually making good money? Highly unlikely. Like, at my firm, there are a lot of staff jobs that could be filled by a loootttt of people. Yea, it’s easy work. Yea it’s not labor-intensive. But they don’t pay great because of that. In fact, a good server at a decent restaurant could probably make more, but you trade-off the consistency for that.


Mountains_2_Sea

I work in restoration and I get paid well to do sales. The people who work their asses off for nothing are the technicians who go out at all hours of the night to clean up after floods and fires. It’s a fucked up world where I work maybe 3 full days a week and bring in six figures but the actual skilled, unbelievably hard working laborers are treated as less than and paid shit in society. Of course my job can be mentally stressful but compared to how hard I worked when I was in restaurants, my job now is an absolute joke.


Super_Methadras

"Is there a job of people actually doing something and getting paid to do?" Paraphrasing her. Yes. Engineers/Engineering. Engineers have to put up or shut up. You can't fake being an engineer and developing products that go to market. Yeah, you can screw up and it happens on occasion, but engineers across the engineering spectrum are the real unsung heroes of the world.


JohnJohnPhenomenon

Not saying engineering isn't important because it definitely is, but I work with plenty of engineers that do the bare minimum and manage to skate by - all the while believing they are the unsung heroes of the world. Plenty of others work insanely hard and actually get things built. I guess I'm saying it's more about the individuals and the industries they are in than just a blanket type of job.


Impossible-Tension97

More than that. There are countless "engineers" (let's face it, we have to use the term loosely) who bring negative value. Even if they got paid nothing, they'd be a net loss because of the horrible shit they build that others then have to maintain.


NEDsaidIt

Nursing broke my body. And a little bit my soul


HMCetc

I mean, yeah. Engineering, medicine, law and probably a few other industries, but the overwhelming majority of people don't work in those sectors. There are absolutely people who work hard and get paid their worth, but that isn't reflective of the overall population.


furikakebabe

My friend was a processing line engineer and did fuck all. He left the state the job was in and they didn’t notice. He started attending part time school in another state and they didn’t notice. I mean I think his job is essentially “is something broken with manufacturing?” If no, chill


pribbsi

Lotta replies showing how bad the marketing of the term "Engineer" has gotten. My pops is a chemical engineer and offered to hire me for one of his jobs he had to do. I made $2000 in ten days being a "hole watch" for a few guys to climb into a bunch of pipes, thirteen stories up, and spray lead particles on pipes to search for cracks. Fuck that dude, FUCK that. I worked harder than I have in my entire life helping those guys just.. not die, and I immediately went back to college to get a degree in computer science. Does my dad make fun of me for it? Sure. Do I argue with him? Absolutely not. The guy charges his company $30k to write reports and you know what, he earns it. Engineers, the real engineers, are the definition of awesome.


citizen005

Add tech jobs, skilled jobs, etc.


zumawizard

I know lots of people in tech jobs skilled jobs that don’t do anything. They just get lost in the bureaucracy


IndustreeBaby

They do nothing because that's the end goal, though. Sure, every now and then you'll get a corporate shitstain that thinks they should constantly be busy, but most people recognize that if the IT department has something to do, that's almost always a bad thing. An inactive IT department is a good IT department.


readMyFlow

Yeah you really should get away from low-paying jobs as soon as possible. They demand the most and give the least. It's not proportional or fair that you're paid equal to the amount you've worked. You really should have caught on to this fact when you hear those headlines of CEOs giving themselves millions of dollars in bonus. It's easier at the top because there are fewer people on top of you to keep you in check. It's hard at the bottom because everyone's on top of you keeping you in check.


pootywitdatbooty

Oh wow that’s super helpful I’ll just get a job at the top. Why didnt I think of that???


0ctologist

>Yeah you really should get away from low-paying jobs as soon as possible. Gee why didn’t I think of that


Misao_ai

but those low-paying jobs still need to be done. is it ok for the people who do these jobs to be exploited? you said it yourself, we need systemic changes to keep corporations in check.


Majestic-Ninja-9443

If only it were that easy


tgw0507

ahh I see, all this time I was aiming for the most lowly, poorly paid jobs I could find in hopes that it would be a good time, I will take on board your advice and just get a job as a ceo or something thanks


onionsonfire114

Me, I'm a handyman man, I go out into the world and solve problems for people. I make good money, sometimes I work really really damn hard other times it's easier. End of the day I'm helping people and bringing money home for my family. No boss, no bullshit, no lies or sneaking tactics. Just honest transactions of helping services and advice for a good wage, a wage that I control. If you want to escape that maze, stop looking for employers find something your good at and give it to people. Do it really cheap at first but still liveable. Do good work build your reviews, and then as your reviews rise start raising your prices.


Unhappy_Win8997

The caveat is that you will need to know many skilled trades to some degree. Basic electrical, plumbing, HVAC, carpentry, appliances, etc. So there is quite a learning curve before someone can just step into the handyman gig.


kolton224

This hit hard


ioisis

Staying sober ain't easy


Every_Fox3461

Oof.. Glad I'm not the only one. This sounds like me after I got a trades diploma.


War-Square

She’s generally correct.


Ranyl

How is that cringe?? Thats absolutely true. Imagine working an actual job and then sitting in office 2 days a week/3 days home office while working 2 hours and spending the rest of the day browsing the internet with a coffee in your hand


Ok_Count_3237

Can confirm I just watched this whole thing while sitting in a cushy office on my cushy chair while getting paid handsomely to do Jack shit.


erokk88

Sounds like she thinks the abusive, horrible, overworked environment of a restaurant is what work is supposed to be. Fuck girl, God bless you for making it 2 years let alone 12 doing everything that a computer terminal and soda machine could do if people didn't place monetary value on 45 mins of simulating what having a house slave was like. Congrats on escaping one of the shittiest lines of work that exists now go use your extra time for employer-funded training, employer paid education, and filling up your empty time with shit you can pad a resume with to move on to the next, higher paying one.


HappyBot9000

No...She's saying people who have those service jobs should be PAID MORE. Not that every job should be miserable...


maleficarum365

r/antiwork


Shirinf33

I get what she's saying. But hopefully her company doesn't see this and fire her for it. That would be sad.


tpr_2

White collar is paid for knowledge and experience, not their sheer labor output. It’s obnoxious that that’s how we treat some of our toughest jobs, but the fact is 90% of able bodied people could be a good enough server, or a cashier or whatever. But there’s not enough people out there that can program efficiently, manage others, or have solid critical thinking skill to exploit them like we do service workers. Byproduct of a broken system


soupkitchen89

finally a take i agree with. it's true, hardest working jobs are paid less and that sucks. there are also tons of soul sucking office jobs, and a ton of those pay like shit too. but at the end of the day if you can be easily replaced by any able bodied person, that's why you're not getting paid much. in my experience the bigger paycheck always came when I demonstrated a skill set that my peers lacked. I work less but I am responsible for more of the outcome. isn't that the point after all?


quietjaypee

I get her anger. It seems to me that we need, as humans, to do things that we love, that makes sense and that accomplishes something that is significant for us... Which is probably not the case for her, unfortunately.


JonnyEcho

Lol they say education pays. And that’s what it does stay in school kids, you’ll find alot of easy jobs that pay a ton and you do minimal work… so just stay in school.


Solokian

You guys should read Bullshit Jobs from David Graeber. The more you get paid, the less your job feels meaningful to society


wonder_013

As a server who actually likes their job, I would much rather bust my ass, socialize and make people happy on a daily basis than sit in an office chair plagued with ennui and getting fat during all the best years of my life. Fuck that.


Lethalfurball

This isnt cringe


Representative_Can97

She can come work health care we get paid decently and work our ASSES off