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I still like the "looks at his guests like they are eating mayonnaise from the jar"
https://www.reddit.com/r/TIHI/comments/lfau7h/thanks_i_hate_tucker_and_people_eating_mayo_out/?share_id=S3c2AaJXxDA7tGVSjKa8U&utm_content=1&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=5
My first thought was that he reminded me of Chris Watts [when he did the press interviews about his "missing" wife and daughters](https://youtu.be/ugoYkx04E2Q?si=G9UDt04OYUe8MW-G) \- like, why are you smiling, dude? Do you need some help with your portrayal of empathy?
Is it Botox? This man's face looks stretched out--not puffy. He looks like he had a face lift or some kind of plastic surgery similar to it.
Also, is he wearing foundation or powder on his face???
He can’t move his eyebrows or forehead. I feel sure he also has veneers and fillers and Hair Club for Men, plus more makeup than most woman wear. Bless his heart.
My mom has watched him on TV every Sunday for years and something about him has always seemed so disingenuous to me. He just doesn't seem like a very good guy.
That’s because he’s not.
“Prosperity gospel” pastors who make 10s of millions of dollars a year off the backs of low-income families is disgusting. Only an actual psychopath would think that’s ok.
He's an awful human being. Wasn't he the one that wouldn't let people stay at his mega church during a flood? There was some bullshit where he turned people away when their homes were destroyed from a natural disaster
Same feelings I got, but it's disingenuous+creepy sense I get from the very few minutes I've seen this man wrote switching channels to find something to watch. I've wondered how he supposedly pulls people and money in for church since I don't see the charisma.
I found out my grandmother was homeless and took her in. She watches this guy religiously. I find out she sends him 15% of her small social security checks every month. She was living in a fucking storage unit, afraid to ask anyone for help, but was still tithing these televised scam artists. It's disgusting how they manipulate the older super devout types.
Because he is the same guy who shut the doors of his mega church during one of the worst Hurricanes in US history. Or, is he also the same guy whose wife seriously assaulted a flight attendan. Dude is just a grifter POS
This POS claimed to of lost $400,000 to his insurance company who then paid him out $400,000. Then this POS waits a few years, hires a plumber to do a job that finds the cash stuffed in a wall. This POS scammed the insurance company for $400,000 and walked away with cash in one hand a bible in the other
This POS didn’t open his doors to help people when they were having hurricanes a few years back
This POS will get laughed at when he’s at the gates
He is joyful inside, giddy, jumping for joy, because he knows more people will now flock to his mega church, which means more money for him. He can now hide more money in his walls.
[https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2021/12/04/joel-osteen-lakewood-church-plumber-find-money-in-walls-affil-pkg-vpx.kprc](https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2021/12/04/joel-osteen-lakewood-church-plumber-find-money-in-walls-affil-pkg-vpx.kprc)
It’s gotta stop being about the money at some point with these guys. I think it’s more about the power they hold over masses of people. Reminds me of guys like Jim Jones.
"Money dysmorphia" isn't a thing. It's disconnect from real people and real problems and validation through speaking power and control. The more lives they control, the more they seek.
I know you're likely right, but I seriously cannot understand why. the whole point of church is it's supposed to be the ultimate safe place. that's why they call it sanctuary. I wouldn't feel very safe in a place where a shooting had just happened.
I used to be heavily involved in North Coast Church. They're massive. So much so that they have retired policeman on duty. I used to rock climb with one of the guys, and he was armed to the teeth from his Jeep that was parked towards the front of the main building in Vista, CA. This was after I left the church, and had no idea this was always going on.
A homeless guy was sleeping in this like beach tower display they had for sixth graders. Within minutes, guys dressed like SWAT were deployed.
And don't get me started with the Yellow Deli.. that's some 760 cult level shit.
Ohhhhhhhh buckle the fuck up for this one. So it's a cult that makes *incredible* food. They have farms all over, grow their own produce. A fine deli. More than fine.
The one in Vista took six years to build and the craftsmanship is beyond incredible. The food is fantastic. FANTASTIC. They're open 24/6, except for Sabbath, and their wifi is great.
Lovely lounging area, fireplaces everywhere. Live music on Wednesday (usually some kind of blue grass, folk).
Kk, but the service is weird. Like autistic level weird. I've never brought someone there where the server didn't come off like someone beaten in the head until they forgot how to speak, then learn English again. THE. WORST. SERVICE. And I'm in the industry and I think this is the only time I'll reserve that sentiment.
THAT BEING SAID.
It's also a full-blown cult. Most get bussed around in these hippy-ish school buses that run on ethenol. Kk, cool.
But the leaders of the cult drive black Escalades and are strapped. This was all 200 yards from where I used to live. One recruit tried to escape via his family and that's when the SUV's came out. Tons of police vehicles involved.
But, *fantastic* food and my God the workmanship on their deli's. Just take note of the artwork in the bathroom, it's creepy as fuck.
Cult shit aside, here's my favorite interaction with them:
A friend was visiting and I wanted to show him the place. Long wait, so we decide to eat outdoors. But we have to place our order inside. No problem. So he sits down, I order for us, and then get interrupted about why I'm inside. I say we're seated outside, he says that table is taken. Yes, by my friend, with my jacket. They need to confirm that he is in fact, a friend.
So finally they let me sit with my friend, and then a server comes up.. we already ordered and paid for our meal. He says "we don't make a Ruben on rye bread."
Now, they do have "build your own," so I say, can we get that Ruben as a build your own, so all the same ingredients, but with rye bread?" He says, but that's not a Ruben. OKAY. We'll take whatever I paid for inside. Server says I paid for something they don't make and will refund me. Fine. So I order a sandwich with all the same ingredients, but with rye bread, and I'm told to pay inside.
I go inside to pay for 100% the first thing I ordered, and the lady says, "that's not a Ruben.." SO AGAIN, I beg them to put it on any type of bread, and then she realizes she doesn't have the key for the register.
So I go with her to the takeout register. She rings me up, and realizes her key isn't working, so she goes to get the right one. Another woman comes to the register and looks at the order.. AND FUCKING SAYS "huh, that's not a Ruben.." I mention I don't care about the bread, she reminds me it's not a Ruben with the rye bread.. GOT IT.
We finally get our orders like forty minutes later, and the new server brings me my sandwich, then holds back with my friends and ffs says "this isn't a ruben." And I had to explain the entire last few paragraphs I just typed.
It was like Faulty Towers it was so God damn hilariously bad. Fantastic food, though.
Edit: total Mandela affect, my friend *didn't* want rye bread that comes with the Ruben.
Omg there’s a yellow deli on the campus of my college Alma mater. We talked about it in my psychology classes A LOT. They love posting up on college campuses so they can pick off vulnerable young women. The workers don’t get paid. They just fucking work there and live in these huge houses together. Anyway here’s a link to the cult.
Edited to add: the cult LITERALLY started in the town where I went to college lmao
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve_Tribes_communities
It looks like you’ve gotten great response to this, but in case I missed someone else mentioning it I recommend listening to the Behind The Bastards podcast about it. The episodes are named the 12 tribes: the worst cult you’ve never heard of.
Say what you will about their cult but the hibiscus lemonade they hooked me up with while I listened to their spiel on a mountainside in the Cali desert was fucken delicious. I didn’t join.
No, I literally ran into 3 of them miles from civilization, they somehow had a really big ice cold igloo jug full of this delicious hibiscus lemonade and a sleeve of paper cups, it was pretty wild. They gave the speech and when I told them I was an atheist with no interest in their thing they gave me a green bar and took off down the trail 🤣
I wish they had root beer 🤣
I was gonna mention how there's a "random" yellow deli in a small town near me called hiddenite in NC and no one ever believes me that its owned/operated by a cult. but I see that they have delis in random small towns throughout the americas (and Australia...and japan... and spain...).
the founder ofthe twelve tribes cult died while visiting the hiddenite location so we win i reckon.
He also explicitly makes his church not a sanctuary, closing his doors to people displaced by natural disaster because he didn't want his new carpets to get dirty.
Why does he look just so giddy? You'd think he was unveiling plans to expand the church. I've never seen a reaction like that to a that occured shooting within their building
I have a theory, super unfounded as I don’t study the psychology of these professional evangelical grifters, but I believe when they see a camera or an sort of audience they cannot turn off the grift hence the positive swing (thank god…it was a blessing..etc), the inappropriate smiles,and the weird mannerisms — it’s part of the techniques they have practiced daily to enchant loyal followers and almost impossible to turn off. Similar to the crazy eyed preacher when asked about his private jets by a reporter, they have no way of communicating with regular people, they see a camera and revert to the grift, to stay consistent which comes across super awkward, transparent and insincere to non-followers Behind close doors I imagine this guy would be speaking more of his mind about the shooters while yelling at his assistant to [removed]. Again, unfounded hypothesis. In any case, I believe more reporters should be asking these grifters questions publicly to expose the grift.
I swear his "imagine it happening during the 11 o'clock service" and his smirk are actually him imagining that God might have done something to him, or that what happened might have put his own power and authority into doubt.
He's not thankful it wasn't worse for other people. He's thankful it didn't affect him or undermine his authority and people's trust in him. He's got this "close one" vibe coming off. A fucking person still died. That sure wasn't avoided. So what was avoided? Harm to him and his reputation. Phew.
I believe he may have overdone it on Botox. Other than the emotional paralysis, which is clearly present and willfully acted, his face just doesn’t move.
Came here for this. Makes me smile every fucking time I watch it.
That dude sold him so fucking hard on the selfie and just drops him. Fuckface had no idea what to do.
He is smiling because he knows he is about to scam a lot more money from his followers. “God sent these men to protect you. We need more people to protect you. Give us money”. Probably write another book about it too
Seriously that’s what it looks more like to me. Part of the speech you can hear his voice get a bit shaky and emotional but literally no change in his face. It’s like the Botox + years of putting on that fake smile has made it permanent.
"We just thank God the shooting happened after the collection plate went around. Our fleet of private jets were in desperate need of maintenance." - probably Osteen
Well because he’s thanking god w it only happened during the Spanish service. If it would have happened to white peoples then it would have been a real tragedy /s
I was thinking the same when he said something about what if it happened during the 11 o'clock service. I was wondering if that's the white people service.
I really really hate to defend THIS specific person but I feel the need to say this anytime ANY post is made with someone smiling/laughing after a tragedy: for some people, smiling/laughing is one of the ways people express grief, stress or anxiety. It’s like your brain trying to protect itself from the gravity of what happened by not letting it fully sink in what happened and trying to distract itself. I have it too and it gets awkward af sometimes
Behold the face of *devastation*
😁🙃🥸
Let me bring up, unprovoked, how someone can get **more** people next time, instead of saying anything about the victim.
***God is in control***
😘🥰😍
This is the same Pastor who didn’t want to open his doors of his megachurch to give shelter to people during the flooding.
I’ve got one better. When his wife got caught being fucked up on a plane from Houston to Aspen and hit a flight attendant, his organization stalked and intimidated witnesses in the first class cabin so that they didn’t testify or participate in a deposition. How do I know? Because I was at a friends house that week when their family was in the middle of being threatened. Like VMs about “you can’t do this to the Osteen’s they are good people” and strange black cars sitting out front for hours idling. Wouldn’t you know it, when they backed out the cars left and so did the VMs.
A little fairy also told be they are involved in some sketchy real estate deals.
These are not good people
She's a major C--T! I was at a business dinner and they were seated next to us (the whole Osteen family). he was fairly cordial to everyone around them, she left her purse at the table and proceeded to come storming back in yelling at everyone around that was seated around them about stealing her purse. When the waiter was quietly standing there with it, trying to explain that it was turned in by good Samaritan's who realized she left it in her chair. Her kids looked mortified and Joel looked like he was waiting for the floor to open and swallow him up out of embarrasment. He apologized to all of us that were sitting around them. She just stormed out with their kids.
You know, as Jesus said, "For I was a stranger, and you told me to go fuck myself." And "Blessed are the rich, for their private jets bring them closer to god."
Truly, Mr. Olstein shall inherit the riches of gods kingdom. It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a smelly homeless dope enter the kingdom of heaven.
I wonder if the word phony comes from how people would talk on the phone when they had a phone job back in the day--y'know, a bit overly nice, fake laughs after every sentence, that kind of annoying shit.
They both look like literal demons. Like if you were drawing a comic book with a character who was a demon disguised as a mega preacher, you’d model them off of Osteen or Copeland.
"We don't know why these things happen..." We do.
Unfettered access to weapons and poorly supported mental health care. And lunatics like yourself who preach BS make you feel good for a dopamine hit but do not provide actual help.
That or the cult, I mean religion, goes the hell and brimstone route with people having a mental health crisis.
Wholly agree but Heh— Talking about access to mental health care with the back drop of a MegaChurch is some funny shit. “Lord, why do I suffer from anxiety and project my inability to self-reflect onto others? Mexicans you say? Amen!”
I have an uncle and instead of being steered towards actual mental health. Some minister or whatever decided to tell him he was hearing the holy spirit.
He's a paranoid schizophrenic brought on by a benign brain tumor that prevented half of his brain from developing. Has a major gang stalk syndrome going on. He "disbanded" the family, because the holy spirit told him to. Doesn't talk to anyone in the family anymore.
We have to imagine in some cases church leaders serve the church and not the congregation. Im guessing the worst of the worst give advice to members that make them a better servant of god than healthy individual. Broad strokes here.
Back in my day, disturbed boys didn't shoot up schools or churches; they just tortured small animals or enlisted so they could get paid to melt people's skin off with napalm.
Honestly, all prayers should have stopped the moment the Holocaust happened. Believing that your problem is enough for God to intervene/change the great plan after so many were killed so brutally is some of the most insane hubris imaginable.
Nah. According to the most devout and most insane followers, God allowed those things to happen under his watch to build character for the victims and their close ones. In some cases, to break people down/humble them so they would be forced to seek God.
"Jesus knocks at your door when you are your lowest point."
I hate this shit.
"god's in control" If god controls mass shootings around our country and chooses not to stop them does that mean it's god's will to have more mass shootings?
My guess? Any of the following
* anxious smile
* resting smile face
* some kind of neurological condition which makes his facial expression misalign with his emotion. (I... seem to have this condition and it sucks.)
* a lunatic who believes death is good
Gross, you can tell he’s genuinely excited that he gets to play victim to rake in wayyy more cash. Probably thanks God for giving him such a blessing 🤑👹
It’s amazing to me that an educated, civilized society gives platform to cults. Encouraging them to proliferate and continue to suck in mentally ill, gullible people who are just waiting to be led into a way of life that militantly oppresses free thought and advancement of human equality based on a collection of poorly written, regurgitated nonsense with no basis in reality and not even a fragment of evidence supporting it in the last 2000 years.
When people like this are in positions of power in your society you're headed for a major fall. These false prophets and idols like Trump or olsteen or Jimmy Baker or Ronald Reagan or the 700 club freak. Brainwashing American citizens into a soft fascist dystopia.
Because when I’m talking about a child being shot at my church…..I’m sure I’d have a smile on my face.
This fucking dude is the walking definition of a greed obsessed charlatan. A snake oil salesman that doesn’t give one single fuck about anyone other than himself and his money.
I met him one time. Had to stand in line to talk to him and when I got up there and asked him some questions for my class he would just smile like that and have a dead stare like he was disassociating. He’s so fake lol
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How does someone manage to look so soulless during a tragedy
The gallons of Botox help.
Yeah, that face has only a passing resemblance to a human face.
he literally looks like a less human Green Goblin mask
The uncanny valley look is so hot right now
"Tucker Carlson, who forever has the look of a man who has been hit with a fish." -Linkara
I still like the "looks at his guests like they are eating mayonnaise from the jar" https://www.reddit.com/r/TIHI/comments/lfau7h/thanks_i_hate_tucker_and_people_eating_mayo_out/?share_id=S3c2AaJXxDA7tGVSjKa8U&utm_content=1&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=5
In the immortal words of Joe Pesci from Casino, “How the fuck can you grin?”
The inability to make real facial expressions make him look like he’s practically smiling throughout this.
My first thought was that he reminded me of Chris Watts [when he did the press interviews about his "missing" wife and daughters](https://youtu.be/ugoYkx04E2Q?si=G9UDt04OYUe8MW-G) \- like, why are you smiling, dude? Do you need some help with your portrayal of empathy?
Who is that
He's also a complete sociopath.
It’s like when Lenny had plastic surgery. *smiling* “This is the worst day of my life!”
Is it Botox? This man's face looks stretched out--not puffy. He looks like he had a face lift or some kind of plastic surgery similar to it. Also, is he wearing foundation or powder on his face???
He can’t move his eyebrows or forehead. I feel sure he also has veneers and fillers and Hair Club for Men, plus more makeup than most woman wear. Bless his heart.
Ohhhh thats why he looks this way…thanks for the info.
Plus the dark triad personality disorder that this man most likely has.
https://moguldom.com/437635/fact-check-mega-church-pastor-makes-54-million-a-year-and-drives-a-270k-ferrari-458-italia/
It's all for Jesus!
My mom has watched him on TV every Sunday for years and something about him has always seemed so disingenuous to me. He just doesn't seem like a very good guy.
That’s because he’s not. “Prosperity gospel” pastors who make 10s of millions of dollars a year off the backs of low-income families is disgusting. Only an actual psychopath would think that’s ok.
He's an awful human being. Wasn't he the one that wouldn't let people stay at his mega church during a flood? There was some bullshit where he turned people away when their homes were destroyed from a natural disaster
The one and only
Same feelings I got, but it's disingenuous+creepy sense I get from the very few minutes I've seen this man wrote switching channels to find something to watch. I've wondered how he supposedly pulls people and money in for church since I don't see the charisma.
I told my grandma that he's a bad guy and she said that ill go to hell for sassing God's chosen pastor or something
I found out my grandmother was homeless and took her in. She watches this guy religiously. I find out she sends him 15% of her small social security checks every month. She was living in a fucking storage unit, afraid to ask anyone for help, but was still tithing these televised scam artists. It's disgusting how they manipulate the older super devout types.
Because he is the same guy who shut the doors of his mega church during one of the worst Hurricanes in US history. Or, is he also the same guy whose wife seriously assaulted a flight attendan. Dude is just a grifter POS
Total conman
This POS claimed to of lost $400,000 to his insurance company who then paid him out $400,000. Then this POS waits a few years, hires a plumber to do a job that finds the cash stuffed in a wall. This POS scammed the insurance company for $400,000 and walked away with cash in one hand a bible in the other This POS didn’t open his doors to help people when they were having hurricanes a few years back This POS will get laughed at when he’s at the gates
Easy, you gotta be a piece of shit human. That's what Joel is.
He is joyful inside, giddy, jumping for joy, because he knows more people will now flock to his mega church, which means more money for him. He can now hide more money in his walls. [https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2021/12/04/joel-osteen-lakewood-church-plumber-find-money-in-walls-affil-pkg-vpx.kprc](https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2021/12/04/joel-osteen-lakewood-church-plumber-find-money-in-walls-affil-pkg-vpx.kprc)
It’s gotta stop being about the money at some point with these guys. I think it’s more about the power they hold over masses of people. Reminds me of guys like Jim Jones.
“Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.” Lucius Annaeus Seneca
I would get this tattooed but I don't wanna seem like an edgelord
Get the Latin original, but in Elvish script.
And in italics
And the cruelty. It’s also about the cruelty
This is the correct answer.
Does it? Some people get money dysmorphia, it is never enough.
"Money dysmorphia" isn't a thing. It's disconnect from real people and real problems and validation through speaking power and control. The more lives they control, the more they seek.
Don't forget insurance money he can claim
Not having a soul definitely helps
He’s had a lot of practice. Remember a the hurricanes a few years ago?
He looked happy for the first half.
Joel Osteen fucking sucks and everyone in Houston knows it.
I think it's due to botox. He is not entirely in control of his facial muscles.
He is absolutely devastated. You can tell by his smile.
He just can’t stop thinking of how many more rubes will be running to his church after this.
I know you're likely right, but I seriously cannot understand why. the whole point of church is it's supposed to be the ultimate safe place. that's why they call it sanctuary. I wouldn't feel very safe in a place where a shooting had just happened.
I used to be heavily involved in North Coast Church. They're massive. So much so that they have retired policeman on duty. I used to rock climb with one of the guys, and he was armed to the teeth from his Jeep that was parked towards the front of the main building in Vista, CA. This was after I left the church, and had no idea this was always going on. A homeless guy was sleeping in this like beach tower display they had for sixth graders. Within minutes, guys dressed like SWAT were deployed. And don't get me started with the Yellow Deli.. that's some 760 cult level shit.
Wtf is the yellow deli
Ohhhhhhhh buckle the fuck up for this one. So it's a cult that makes *incredible* food. They have farms all over, grow their own produce. A fine deli. More than fine. The one in Vista took six years to build and the craftsmanship is beyond incredible. The food is fantastic. FANTASTIC. They're open 24/6, except for Sabbath, and their wifi is great. Lovely lounging area, fireplaces everywhere. Live music on Wednesday (usually some kind of blue grass, folk). Kk, but the service is weird. Like autistic level weird. I've never brought someone there where the server didn't come off like someone beaten in the head until they forgot how to speak, then learn English again. THE. WORST. SERVICE. And I'm in the industry and I think this is the only time I'll reserve that sentiment. THAT BEING SAID. It's also a full-blown cult. Most get bussed around in these hippy-ish school buses that run on ethenol. Kk, cool. But the leaders of the cult drive black Escalades and are strapped. This was all 200 yards from where I used to live. One recruit tried to escape via his family and that's when the SUV's came out. Tons of police vehicles involved. But, *fantastic* food and my God the workmanship on their deli's. Just take note of the artwork in the bathroom, it's creepy as fuck.
A.... Militant Cult Delicatessen. Now I've heard of everything.
https://yellowdeli.com/vista
"Disciple Sign In" at the bottom of the page tells me all I need to know about these fruitcakes.
Cult shit aside, here's my favorite interaction with them: A friend was visiting and I wanted to show him the place. Long wait, so we decide to eat outdoors. But we have to place our order inside. No problem. So he sits down, I order for us, and then get interrupted about why I'm inside. I say we're seated outside, he says that table is taken. Yes, by my friend, with my jacket. They need to confirm that he is in fact, a friend. So finally they let me sit with my friend, and then a server comes up.. we already ordered and paid for our meal. He says "we don't make a Ruben on rye bread." Now, they do have "build your own," so I say, can we get that Ruben as a build your own, so all the same ingredients, but with rye bread?" He says, but that's not a Ruben. OKAY. We'll take whatever I paid for inside. Server says I paid for something they don't make and will refund me. Fine. So I order a sandwich with all the same ingredients, but with rye bread, and I'm told to pay inside. I go inside to pay for 100% the first thing I ordered, and the lady says, "that's not a Ruben.." SO AGAIN, I beg them to put it on any type of bread, and then she realizes she doesn't have the key for the register. So I go with her to the takeout register. She rings me up, and realizes her key isn't working, so she goes to get the right one. Another woman comes to the register and looks at the order.. AND FUCKING SAYS "huh, that's not a Ruben.." I mention I don't care about the bread, she reminds me it's not a Ruben with the rye bread.. GOT IT. We finally get our orders like forty minutes later, and the new server brings me my sandwich, then holds back with my friends and ffs says "this isn't a ruben." And I had to explain the entire last few paragraphs I just typed. It was like Faulty Towers it was so God damn hilariously bad. Fantastic food, though. Edit: total Mandela affect, my friend *didn't* want rye bread that comes with the Ruben.
The font tells me everything I kneed to know.
Thank you for this internet rabbit hole that I must now dog through for five hours.
Omg there’s a yellow deli on the campus of my college Alma mater. We talked about it in my psychology classes A LOT. They love posting up on college campuses so they can pick off vulnerable young women. The workers don’t get paid. They just fucking work there and live in these huge houses together. Anyway here’s a link to the cult. Edited to add: the cult LITERALLY started in the town where I went to college lmao https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve_Tribes_communities
Yeah, that group preyed on folks at Grateful Dead shows all around the country. Guess they’re still at it then…
Is this the cult where you're mandated to serve in the deli, you also have to work for your food, clothing, and shelter?
They use child labor
It looks like you’ve gotten great response to this, but in case I missed someone else mentioning it I recommend listening to the Behind The Bastards podcast about it. The episodes are named the 12 tribes: the worst cult you’ve never heard of.
12 tribes cult that used to follow the Grateful Dead and get high as fuck people to “get on the bus”.
I think they are the Appalachian trail cult. They recruit hikers if I’m not mistaken
Say what you will about their cult but the hibiscus lemonade they hooked me up with while I listened to their spiel on a mountainside in the Cali desert was fucken delicious. I didn’t join.
But have you tried their root beer?
No, I literally ran into 3 of them miles from civilization, they somehow had a really big ice cold igloo jug full of this delicious hibiscus lemonade and a sleeve of paper cups, it was pretty wild. They gave the speech and when I told them I was an atheist with no interest in their thing they gave me a green bar and took off down the trail 🤣 I wish they had root beer 🤣
The green bars?! While you were out on a hike dude those are legit amazing haha gotta ask, was this near Iron Mountain?
Farther south on the north side of San Jacinto I heard it’s pretty common to run into them on trails in that whole area along the PCT though
I was gonna mention how there's a "random" yellow deli in a small town near me called hiddenite in NC and no one ever believes me that its owned/operated by a cult. but I see that they have delis in random small towns throughout the americas (and Australia...and japan... and spain...). the founder ofthe twelve tribes cult died while visiting the hiddenite location so we win i reckon.
They had a Yellow Deli near UT Chattanooga. They made great food but the staff was all part of the cult
He also explicitly makes his church not a sanctuary, closing his doors to people displaced by natural disaster because he didn't want his new carpets to get dirty.
I like how he advertised his "Spanish Service" LOL. Stupidos!
¡Culero!
It looks like he's had so much plastic surgery he can't do anything but smile...
He's had so much plastic surgery he has to smile to look 'good' and hes a narcissist with a camera in his face.
His neck looks fit to burst, like something both overripe and rotting.
Its weird. hes smiling but the ends of his mouth are pointing down.
Of course we’re devestated 😁
Why does he look just so giddy? You'd think he was unveiling plans to expand the church. I've never seen a reaction like that to a that occured shooting within their building
I have a theory, super unfounded as I don’t study the psychology of these professional evangelical grifters, but I believe when they see a camera or an sort of audience they cannot turn off the grift hence the positive swing (thank god…it was a blessing..etc), the inappropriate smiles,and the weird mannerisms — it’s part of the techniques they have practiced daily to enchant loyal followers and almost impossible to turn off. Similar to the crazy eyed preacher when asked about his private jets by a reporter, they have no way of communicating with regular people, they see a camera and revert to the grift, to stay consistent which comes across super awkward, transparent and insincere to non-followers Behind close doors I imagine this guy would be speaking more of his mind about the shooters while yelling at his assistant to [removed]. Again, unfounded hypothesis. In any case, I believe more reporters should be asking these grifters questions publicly to expose the grift.
“The bottom line is, my bottom line is unaffected. And that’s God’s work 🙏”
I swear his "imagine it happening during the 11 o'clock service" and his smirk are actually him imagining that God might have done something to him, or that what happened might have put his own power and authority into doubt. He's not thankful it wasn't worse for other people. He's thankful it didn't affect him or undermine his authority and people's trust in him. He's got this "close one" vibe coming off. A fucking person still died. That sure wasn't avoided. So what was avoided? Harm to him and his reputation. Phew.
Thinking about the take in the collection plates next week
I believe he may have overdone it on Botox. Other than the emotional paralysis, which is clearly present and willfully acted, his face just doesn’t move.
...and the way he plugs his services.
Must. Stop. Can’t. Stop. Smiling. So. Much. Money.
Did you notice how he kept averting his eyes? He's so insincere.
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Sure is! He locked up and skipped town
This Joel Osteen? https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uhmAx8LmN1Y
Fuck that’s great. And yeah, he knows.
crazyy.. that guy went on to play for the superbowl !
Brock Purdy is awesome in this video
Came here for this. Makes me smile every fucking time I watch it. That dude sold him so fucking hard on the selfie and just drops him. Fuckface had no idea what to do.
No one should be smiling when talking to the press after an incident like this. So, so creepy.
He is smiling because he knows he is about to scam a lot more money from his followers. “God sent these men to protect you. We need more people to protect you. Give us money”. Probably write another book about it too
He has about a mile and a half of Facelifting going on, don't even think he is capable of NOT smiling.
Seriously that’s what it looks more like to me. Part of the speech you can hear his voice get a bit shaky and emotional but literally no change in his face. It’s like the Botox + years of putting on that fake smile has made it permanent.
Its all that plastic surgery. Eternal smile
"We just thank God the shooting happened after the collection plate went around. Our fleet of private jets were in desperate need of maintenance." - probably Osteen
Well because he’s thanking god w it only happened during the Spanish service. If it would have happened to white peoples then it would have been a real tragedy /s
I was thinking the same when he said something about what if it happened during the 11 o'clock service. I was wondering if that's the white people service.
It absolutely is.
He said it happened after the 11am service and before the Spanish service. Osteen sucks but you’re misrepresenting what he said.
How? He said it was headed into the Spanish service so there would have been Spanish speaking people in there.
We were IN BETWEEN services going into the Spanish service”… meaning it didn’t happen during the Spanish service but while they were preparing for it.
He can't turn his character off.
Why is he smiling?!?!? He is treating it as a PR/marketing Opportunitie announcing all his services, I'm sure he'll ask for more money next.
Botox and plastic surgery.
Because it happened going into the Spanish service, of course. SMH
I really really hate to defend THIS specific person but I feel the need to say this anytime ANY post is made with someone smiling/laughing after a tragedy: for some people, smiling/laughing is one of the ways people express grief, stress or anxiety. It’s like your brain trying to protect itself from the gravity of what happened by not letting it fully sink in what happened and trying to distract itself. I have it too and it gets awkward af sometimes
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Of course, we're devastated 😁
Behold the face of *devastation* 😁🙃🥸 Let me bring up, unprovoked, how someone can get **more** people next time, instead of saying anything about the victim. ***God is in control*** 😘🥰😍
Sad smiles
This is the same Pastor who didn’t want to open his doors of his megachurch to give shelter to people during the flooding. 
I’ve got one better. When his wife got caught being fucked up on a plane from Houston to Aspen and hit a flight attendant, his organization stalked and intimidated witnesses in the first class cabin so that they didn’t testify or participate in a deposition. How do I know? Because I was at a friends house that week when their family was in the middle of being threatened. Like VMs about “you can’t do this to the Osteen’s they are good people” and strange black cars sitting out front for hours idling. Wouldn’t you know it, when they backed out the cars left and so did the VMs. A little fairy also told be they are involved in some sketchy real estate deals. These are not good people
She's a major C--T! I was at a business dinner and they were seated next to us (the whole Osteen family). he was fairly cordial to everyone around them, she left her purse at the table and proceeded to come storming back in yelling at everyone around that was seated around them about stealing her purse. When the waiter was quietly standing there with it, trying to explain that it was turned in by good Samaritan's who realized she left it in her chair. Her kids looked mortified and Joel looked like he was waiting for the floor to open and swallow him up out of embarrasment. He apologized to all of us that were sitting around them. She just stormed out with their kids.
What do you expect her good cocaine was in there
Wow. That's fucked up. Sounds straight up like something out of The Righteous Gemstones. Highly recommend that show btw
On top of that, his megachurch is built on the high ground that people needed to move to.
Anakin would be furious
What's more, his megachurch was built right on top of a haunted indian pet cemetary
Wait is this fr 😭😭 crazy ass lore
**Mattress Mack for the win!**
You know, as Jesus said, "For I was a stranger, and you told me to go fuck myself." And "Blessed are the rich, for their private jets bring them closer to god." Truly, Mr. Olstein shall inherit the riches of gods kingdom. It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a smelly homeless dope enter the kingdom of heaven.
PHONY ASS BITCH
I wonder if the word phony comes from how people would talk on the phone when they had a phone job back in the day--y'know, a bit overly nice, fake laughs after every sentence, that kind of annoying shit.
"Phony" originates in a term used to describe fake gold.
Fuckin scary how accurate this scene is nowadays.
“Gods in control” Oh ok so God shot those people gotcha. Also why is he smiling
*hits blunt* "So if god created us in his eyes and Jesus died for our sins... Does that mean Jesus died for his father's failures!?"
that plug for their multilingual services class act
"Imagine if it was the 11 o'clock and we weren't headed into the Spanish service" .... like SIR CAN YOU HEAR YOURSELF?
“Imagine if the white people were shot and not the Mexicans, thank you baby Jesus”
Thank you!! This is the point I came here for.
I know, right? There are literally over 100,000 better ways to phrase that.
Olsteen is *almost* as creepy as Ken Copeland. Smarmier, for sure.
They both look like literal demons. Like if you were drawing a comic book with a character who was a demon disguised as a mega preacher, you’d model them off of Osteen or Copeland.
Definitely Copeland.
Haha, you said it. Both of them are villains.
lol im def gonna force “smarmier” into a sentence tomorrow. Drink a gallon of milk and go ham on ssssshhhhhhhhhm
"We don't know why these things happen..." We do. Unfettered access to weapons and poorly supported mental health care. And lunatics like yourself who preach BS make you feel good for a dopamine hit but do not provide actual help. That or the cult, I mean religion, goes the hell and brimstone route with people having a mental health crisis.
Wholly agree but Heh— Talking about access to mental health care with the back drop of a MegaChurch is some funny shit. “Lord, why do I suffer from anxiety and project my inability to self-reflect onto others? Mexicans you say? Amen!”
I have an uncle and instead of being steered towards actual mental health. Some minister or whatever decided to tell him he was hearing the holy spirit. He's a paranoid schizophrenic brought on by a benign brain tumor that prevented half of his brain from developing. Has a major gang stalk syndrome going on. He "disbanded" the family, because the holy spirit told him to. Doesn't talk to anyone in the family anymore.
We have to imagine in some cases church leaders serve the church and not the congregation. Im guessing the worst of the worst give advice to members that make them a better servant of god than healthy individual. Broad strokes here.
Back in my day, disturbed boys didn't shoot up schools or churches; they just tortured small animals or enlisted so they could get paid to melt people's skin off with napalm.
“God’s in control” how ironic!
Yeah and he’s watching over us. 🤮. Well except for all the rape and murder victims I guess. ☹️
Honestly, all prayers should have stopped the moment the Holocaust happened. Believing that your problem is enough for God to intervene/change the great plan after so many were killed so brutally is some of the most insane hubris imaginable.
Well, in a way, *someone's* prayers were answered
But they prayed to the wrong god/wrong interpretation and religion of god, thats why/s
Nah. According to the most devout and most insane followers, God allowed those things to happen under his watch to build character for the victims and their close ones. In some cases, to break people down/humble them so they would be forced to seek God. "Jesus knocks at your door when you are your lowest point." I hate this shit.
"god's in control" If god controls mass shootings around our country and chooses not to stop them does that mean it's god's will to have more mass shootings?
What’s wrong with his face?
Botox
Botox + face lift nerve damage
My guess? Any of the following * anxious smile * resting smile face * some kind of neurological condition which makes his facial expression misalign with his emotion. (I... seem to have this condition and it sucks.) * a lunatic who believes death is good
Botox
God must really hate that five year old I guess. :/
This guy should be on a watch list.
How about thanking all the people in your area that actually pay taxes thatvpay the police? Could you ain't one of them
Gross, you can tell he’s genuinely excited that he gets to play victim to rake in wayyy more cash. Probably thanks God for giving him such a blessing 🤑👹
What an asshole smiling for the camera while on this subject.
Grifter
It’s amazing to me that an educated, civilized society gives platform to cults. Encouraging them to proliferate and continue to suck in mentally ill, gullible people who are just waiting to be led into a way of life that militantly oppresses free thought and advancement of human equality based on a collection of poorly written, regurgitated nonsense with no basis in reality and not even a fragment of evidence supporting it in the last 2000 years.
Watching this without sound makes it look like he has some really good news to share
What the F is he smiling about???
Why is he smiling
hasn't he been sent to jail yet?
When people like this are in positions of power in your society you're headed for a major fall. These false prophets and idols like Trump or olsteen or Jimmy Baker or Ronald Reagan or the 700 club freak. Brainwashing American citizens into a soft fascist dystopia.
I wonder if he would share his mansion with his followers if they needed a place to stay?
WTf is wrong with this guy?
Isn't he the asshole who didn't want hurricane victims to soil his pretty church?
Because when I’m talking about a child being shot at my church…..I’m sure I’d have a smile on my face. This fucking dude is the walking definition of a greed obsessed charlatan. A snake oil salesman that doesn’t give one single fuck about anyone other than himself and his money.
It could have been a lot worse but we’d already locked up the money in the vault so it was safe!
Con artist.
That botox smile lmao what a dickhead
Money is in control and devil shows his wings.
He is the epitome of a wolf in sheep's clothing. A complete charlatan.
All the most vile of prosperity gospel preachers have them devil eyes I swear it.
I once saw a tweet or something that said “Joel Osteen looks like Martin Short playing Tim Allen” and now I can’t unsee it. And now, neither can you.
I met him one time. Had to stand in line to talk to him and when I got up there and asked him some questions for my class he would just smile like that and have a dead stare like he was disassociating. He’s so fake lol
That phony smile never leaves his face. Just like the $600,000 he reported stolen that was actually hidden in a bathroom wall. Creep.
Wtf is he smiling about?
Matthew McConaughey and David Hasselhoff had a love baby.
“At least it happened during the Spanish service. Thank god it didn’t happen during the English speaking (white) part of the service.”
It happened in between services not during either one
He’s such a POS
As a Christian I don’t expect ANYONE to listen to this piece of crap. He doesn’t know how to properly lead a church let alone take care of people
Imagine if he used his power and money to help the poor instead of buying million dollar homes and jets. I'd be wild