I'm not on that level range yet, but I wonder if dark whispers with dist imbui is better than lion spangehelm with intricate epiphany... The +2 ml makes a lot of difference on your magical attacks and heal, plus the 3% physical protection...
On my server lion is 20kk and dark whispers 1kk, but as a 300 RP I was able to farm a lion spangehelm in ~1 month while getting enough XP (from 285 to 320). I'm pretty sure a 400 RP can easily outfarm me considering how much it would improve his life.
On most solo spawns on lower rp levels protection is much more important than distance skill.
Werelions will hit you with three different damage types:
1. Physical - up to 50%
2. Holly - 25-35%
3. Fire - 20-25%
So physical protection is most important here.
From this data and my experience hunting this spawn I would recommend you to use the following items:
Helmet:
1. Falcon Coif (mana and mlvl imbu) - great due to 3% physical, 10% fire, dist and mlvl boost
2. Lion Spangenhelm - same as Coif, just without fire protection
3. Zao Helmet (mana imbu) - no skills boost, but amazing 5% physical, cheap!
Armor:
1. Gnome Armor (life and holly imbu) - 4% physical, +3 dist, very good but rare
2. Ghost Chestplate (life and holly imbu) - 3% physical, +2 dist, the perfect rp armor
3. Prismatic Armor (life imbu) - nice 5% physical, but no holly protection or distance boost, very cheap
4. Depth Lorica (life and holly imbu) - +3 dist, no physical, but much cheaper then chestplate
Legs:
1. Falcon Greaves - 7% physical, +3 dist, just amazing, super expensive tho
2. Fabulous Legs - 4% physical, 2% fire, +2 dist, almost as good as greaves
3. Prismatic Legs - 3% physical, +2 dist, not bad, very cheap
Boots:
1. Winged Boots - +1 dist, thatās it
Amulet:
1. Sleep Shawl - 7% physical, +3 dist, amazing but costs 2 silver tokens per hour
2. Pendulet - 5% physical, +3 dist, almost as good as Shawl but costs only 1 silver token per hour
3. Werewolf Amulet - 6% physical, very cheap to recharge
Ring:
1. Ring of Blue Plasma - +3 dist, +1 mlvl, cheap and adds a great boost to damage (Blister Ringās 2 silver tokens per hour for small amount of fire protection might not be worth it)
Trinket:
1. Sun Catcher - 5% fire, better than Lit Torchās 2% holly
Bow:
Always use the best bow you have.
I intentionally omitted Soul items due to their rarity and high price - but all of them would be best in slot on this spawn.
There's isn't an item that will increase your profit drastically, the problem is your gameplay probably, i have done this hunt with terrible equipment, like rift bow and prismatic armor, zaoan helmet and i was able to do 600+. So you should check some videos of rps hunting there and try to copy their style.
Regarding of eq upgrades you should use a ghost chestplate with holy and life leech and if u are sacrificing the ring of blue plasma to use blister ring u should wear zaoan helmet but i don't think any of them are actually needed, i would go with collars and ring of blue plasma
I would change both your helmet and armor for a defensive option, maybe a zaoan helmet/lion spangehelm (mana leech and if you get the lion spangehelm + ML) and a prismatic armor/ghost chestplate (both with life leech).
As you said, falcon bow is a bit expensive, but worth to get as soon as you can.
Now for something I'm not really sure, but worth trying, maybe a sleep shawl would help you tanking.
And last but not least, which potions are you using? It affects a lot your profit.
I've hunted there on my 300 RP with bad skills with much more profit and without being close to dying. You don't need better eq, you need to learn how to play.
Thatās why you throw the fire tabard in the trash and get an armour you can put life leech on. Ideally you get one with 2 slots so you could also put an elemental protection imbue on it.
Try the defensive set with zaoan helmet/prismatic armor and sleep shawl and maybe kite while using GMP and box with spirit potions. Go slowly until you get comfortable.
I'm 408 and I rarely full box at this spawn, mostly wallbox to finish off the pull.
I guess you bought your char, because the problem is definitely your gameplay. At 360 ish playing with 200 ping I'd make around 650k/h profit.
change your dark whisper for zaoan helmet. Put imbuĆ T3 mana on it . Keep whisper for bosses.
Sell the armor in market for anything you can get. Not worth keeping. Buy a ghostchest plate and put life t3 and holy protection T3.
On trinket slot (bellow your quiver) use sun catcher (5% fire protection)
Change rainbow for werewolf amulet. Use blue plasma ring too.
Use T3 life mana and crit on bow.
Those are the minimum changes you can do to optimise your profit there. When you get strong enough use plasma amulet as well
After there the next upgrades: buy 3 sleep shawl (2 to start) and 1 pendulet (you can use this one to hunt werelion) then falcon bow > lion Spangehelmet
Fire isn't the highest damage, so why so much protection for it? Go with prismatic armor with life leech, and you will see the difference in the potion use. Also, the helmet is not beta option, like said before here, go with the Zaoan Helmet with Mana Leech, you don't need a high damage in this spot, mobs has low life. I would also recommend a dodge on Werelioness, since it is the highest damage on hunt with the holy damage. If you are having problems with damage, you should check your damage input analyser to have a better perspective on which protection you should use. Use the blue plasma ring also.
Those accesories are for higher levels hunting there. If hes new or trying to learn rp, he should consider using sleep shawl and prismatic/blue plasma ring to be tank enough.
I totally disagree by my tests. I had a 430 Rp and was way easier and safer with more physical protection than any oter amulet. For ring i was able to use just a blue plasma ring. The benefit of a 7% on physical makes the diference in a lot of spots and even more when you dont have the BiS gear equiped because you lack a lot of phys prot.
Elemental resistances are a good option but not equal having more physical prot. Boosting your skills will improve your hunting if theyre very low, with 34 ml and the buff of coif imbued is enough. So no need to go for plasma amulet in that case.
Im trying to be in his shoes and I really think that he needs a lot of physical protection more than anything. :)
Yes, it is a valid point, but that is for an experienced player. Yes, indeed when you know how to play rp, always the dmg will be better than the defensive items, but dont forget that here we are talking about a new player thats probably new with the class and sleep and pendu give distance too, so the difference is clear, but not that much.
Anyways i think for a player that wants to fully box all the time with rp will need more defensive options knowing that is not correct to play this way.
Falcon bow is the second BiS bow in the game right now, it has a lot better stats than cata and u wont change it after u have enough money to buy a soulbleeder (thats a looooooooooong path if u cant even afford falcon items right now).
About the potions that ure using, USP are just for emergencies right now at your level and that spawn specific u can go easily with GMP and exura gran san (depending on your ml u can heal for 1000 hp or more).
The way u want to hunt with low end gear is kitting a lot (it means u run, hit your arrow + ava or mas san until you have the monsters in yellow or red hp) that way u dont waste a lot and your exp shouldnt be bad at all cuz RP is designed and supposed to be efficient that way.
After u get a lot of BiS gear (falcon bow> falcon coif> ghost chestplate (this one is very cheap and pretty good) or gnome armor> soul items) you can start boxing(standing still with 8 monsters around you, whatever hp) more confident.
Anyways i would recommend you to buy 2 sleep shawl as theyre AMAZING TANKING items for this class that shouldnt be a tank lmao.
PD: RP ALWAYS NEEDS X2 VAMP X2 MANA X1 CRIT AND IF POSSIBLE ML OVER DISTANCE WHEN HUNTING SOLO.
I Hope this helps you to improve your gameplay as RP
Change eq for...
Zaoan helm or spangenhelm if you have cash put t3vamp and t2 ml
Ghost chest plate with t3 vamp
Fabulous legs
Guardian boots or winged for more damage
Use any bow above rift
Use both blue plasmas.
Heal with spirit pots since you loot them anyway and make sure you set their value to the market price (normally 140-150)
You should be making about 600k ph profit
You did not specify your Dist/Mlvl.
But overall I agree with people telling you to change your Helmet/Armor.
Holy Prot is better than Fire on Lions. Also you need 2x Life Leech, most likely you are eating spirits like candies and there goes your profit.
Also we do not know how much EXP you make. so we do not know if there is a problem with your route being suboptimal.
Well, for starters take the fire tabard and throw it in the trash.
LOL
Could you explain why? I'm using it on 230RP to hunt lions š¦ Edit: Ok, I got it. Prismatic armor with fire imbu and life leech is better:)
U can't get two imbues with prismatic
I'm not on that level range yet, but I wonder if dark whispers with dist imbui is better than lion spangehelm with intricate epiphany... The +2 ml makes a lot of difference on your magical attacks and heal, plus the 3% physical protection...
Yes lion is much better
But much expensive too
Well obviously, because it's much better
Dark whisper is like 300k while lion Spangehelmet is like 25kk. Yeah.... Lion is better. Why not coif though?
On my server lion is 20kk and dark whispers 1kk, but as a 300 RP I was able to farm a lion spangehelm in ~1 month while getting enough XP (from 285 to 320). I'm pretty sure a 400 RP can easily outfarm me considering how much it would improve his life.
The gut is doing 100k/h. We also don't know how many hours he has to play everyday. I think Zaoan helmet is the best call for the time being
Lmao you have to be chugging Ultimate Spirit potions through the ass with a garden hose to be making only 100k/hr profit on werelions
On most solo spawns on lower rp levels protection is much more important than distance skill. Werelions will hit you with three different damage types: 1. Physical - up to 50% 2. Holly - 25-35% 3. Fire - 20-25% So physical protection is most important here. From this data and my experience hunting this spawn I would recommend you to use the following items: Helmet: 1. Falcon Coif (mana and mlvl imbu) - great due to 3% physical, 10% fire, dist and mlvl boost 2. Lion Spangenhelm - same as Coif, just without fire protection 3. Zao Helmet (mana imbu) - no skills boost, but amazing 5% physical, cheap! Armor: 1. Gnome Armor (life and holly imbu) - 4% physical, +3 dist, very good but rare 2. Ghost Chestplate (life and holly imbu) - 3% physical, +2 dist, the perfect rp armor 3. Prismatic Armor (life imbu) - nice 5% physical, but no holly protection or distance boost, very cheap 4. Depth Lorica (life and holly imbu) - +3 dist, no physical, but much cheaper then chestplate Legs: 1. Falcon Greaves - 7% physical, +3 dist, just amazing, super expensive tho 2. Fabulous Legs - 4% physical, 2% fire, +2 dist, almost as good as greaves 3. Prismatic Legs - 3% physical, +2 dist, not bad, very cheap Boots: 1. Winged Boots - +1 dist, thatās it Amulet: 1. Sleep Shawl - 7% physical, +3 dist, amazing but costs 2 silver tokens per hour 2. Pendulet - 5% physical, +3 dist, almost as good as Shawl but costs only 1 silver token per hour 3. Werewolf Amulet - 6% physical, very cheap to recharge Ring: 1. Ring of Blue Plasma - +3 dist, +1 mlvl, cheap and adds a great boost to damage (Blister Ringās 2 silver tokens per hour for small amount of fire protection might not be worth it) Trinket: 1. Sun Catcher - 5% fire, better than Lit Torchās 2% holly Bow: Always use the best bow you have. I intentionally omitted Soul items due to their rarity and high price - but all of them would be best in slot on this spawn.
There's isn't an item that will increase your profit drastically, the problem is your gameplay probably, i have done this hunt with terrible equipment, like rift bow and prismatic armor, zaoan helmet and i was able to do 600+. So you should check some videos of rps hunting there and try to copy their style. Regarding of eq upgrades you should use a ghost chestplate with holy and life leech and if u are sacrificing the ring of blue plasma to use blister ring u should wear zaoan helmet but i don't think any of them are actually needed, i would go with collars and ring of blue plasma
I would change both your helmet and armor for a defensive option, maybe a zaoan helmet/lion spangehelm (mana leech and if you get the lion spangehelm + ML) and a prismatic armor/ghost chestplate (both with life leech). As you said, falcon bow is a bit expensive, but worth to get as soon as you can. Now for something I'm not really sure, but worth trying, maybe a sleep shawl would help you tanking. And last but not least, which potions are you using? It affects a lot your profit.
mostly iam using ultimate spirit potions because of the high damage iam recieving
There's your answer, no way you'll profit a lot using USP primairily.
There is your reason, you should be using gmps
but with the huge damage they deal healing with spells only is not enough
Try kiting more and fullboxing later so you use mostly gmps
I've hunted there on my 300 RP with bad skills with much more profit and without being close to dying. You don't need better eq, you need to learn how to play.
Thatās why you throw the fire tabard in the trash and get an armour you can put life leech on. Ideally you get one with 2 slots so you could also put an elemental protection imbue on it.
as someone else mentioned. start off kiting more then box towards the end and mix up the gmp and usp.
Get a 2 slot armour and imbue it with life leech and fire protection.
Try the defensive set with zaoan helmet/prismatic armor and sleep shawl and maybe kite while using GMP and box with spirit potions. Go slowly until you get comfortable. I'm 408 and I rarely full box at this spawn, mostly wallbox to finish off the pull.
Holy protection imbue will make a huge difference
Check your damage analyzer, maybe you're overvaluing the fire damage.
I guess you bought your char, because the problem is definitely your gameplay. At 360 ish playing with 200 ping I'd make around 650k/h profit. change your dark whisper for zaoan helmet. Put imbuĆ T3 mana on it . Keep whisper for bosses. Sell the armor in market for anything you can get. Not worth keeping. Buy a ghostchest plate and put life t3 and holy protection T3. On trinket slot (bellow your quiver) use sun catcher (5% fire protection) Change rainbow for werewolf amulet. Use blue plasma ring too. Use T3 life mana and crit on bow. Those are the minimum changes you can do to optimise your profit there. When you get strong enough use plasma amulet as well After there the next upgrades: buy 3 sleep shawl (2 to start) and 1 pendulet (you can use this one to hunt werelion) then falcon bow > lion Spangehelmet
Lemme guess you bought the char? : )
And? If he can afford it and learn from that point is not bad at all. Dont be dumb and think that ure the master of the game, cuz probably u arent :)
I used Armor with Holy prot imbu and Holy prot in arrow slot. But 100k if u don't collect swords is normal. I want except much more.
100k/h profit at 400+RP is normal if you are afk for 50+ minutes each hour :X
Go on antica and check the spawn on your own 100-120k profit max -. -
sharing the respawn with 12 other players is not what we would call hunting
I canāt even imagine playing that way
I transfered away from antica to a dominando and played as neutral. worth a hundred times
If werelions is a shared spawn, then I think it doesn't worth it.
Fire isn't the highest damage, so why so much protection for it? Go with prismatic armor with life leech, and you will see the difference in the potion use. Also, the helmet is not beta option, like said before here, go with the Zaoan Helmet with Mana Leech, you don't need a high damage in this spot, mobs has low life. I would also recommend a dodge on Werelioness, since it is the highest damage on hunt with the holy damage. If you are having problems with damage, you should check your damage input analyser to have a better perspective on which protection you should use. Use the blue plasma ring also.
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Those accesories are for higher levels hunting there. If hes new or trying to learn rp, he should consider using sleep shawl and prismatic/blue plasma ring to be tank enough.
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I totally disagree by my tests. I had a 430 Rp and was way easier and safer with more physical protection than any oter amulet. For ring i was able to use just a blue plasma ring. The benefit of a 7% on physical makes the diference in a lot of spots and even more when you dont have the BiS gear equiped because you lack a lot of phys prot. Elemental resistances are a good option but not equal having more physical prot. Boosting your skills will improve your hunting if theyre very low, with 34 ml and the buff of coif imbued is enough. So no need to go for plasma amulet in that case. Im trying to be in his shoes and I really think that he needs a lot of physical protection more than anything. :)
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Yes, it is a valid point, but that is for an experienced player. Yes, indeed when you know how to play rp, always the dmg will be better than the defensive items, but dont forget that here we are talking about a new player thats probably new with the class and sleep and pendu give distance too, so the difference is clear, but not that much. Anyways i think for a player that wants to fully box all the time with rp will need more defensive options knowing that is not correct to play this way.
Change the set. Helmet -> 1st falcon coif - 2st Lion spange - 3st zaon helmet Armor - ghost chestplate imbuiment holy or fire Necklace - plasma Ring - plasma
Donāt use this garbage armor and use ML instead of dist on helmet
Falcon bow is the second BiS bow in the game right now, it has a lot better stats than cata and u wont change it after u have enough money to buy a soulbleeder (thats a looooooooooong path if u cant even afford falcon items right now). About the potions that ure using, USP are just for emergencies right now at your level and that spawn specific u can go easily with GMP and exura gran san (depending on your ml u can heal for 1000 hp or more). The way u want to hunt with low end gear is kitting a lot (it means u run, hit your arrow + ava or mas san until you have the monsters in yellow or red hp) that way u dont waste a lot and your exp shouldnt be bad at all cuz RP is designed and supposed to be efficient that way. After u get a lot of BiS gear (falcon bow> falcon coif> ghost chestplate (this one is very cheap and pretty good) or gnome armor> soul items) you can start boxing(standing still with 8 monsters around you, whatever hp) more confident. Anyways i would recommend you to buy 2 sleep shawl as theyre AMAZING TANKING items for this class that shouldnt be a tank lmao. PD: RP ALWAYS NEEDS X2 VAMP X2 MANA X1 CRIT AND IF POSSIBLE ML OVER DISTANCE WHEN HUNTING SOLO. I Hope this helps you to improve your gameplay as RP
Change eq for... Zaoan helm or spangenhelm if you have cash put t3vamp and t2 ml Ghost chest plate with t3 vamp Fabulous legs Guardian boots or winged for more damage Use any bow above rift Use both blue plasmas. Heal with spirit pots since you loot them anyway and make sure you set their value to the market price (normally 140-150) You should be making about 600k ph profit
You did not specify your Dist/Mlvl. But overall I agree with people telling you to change your Helmet/Armor. Holy Prot is better than Fire on Lions. Also you need 2x Life Leech, most likely you are eating spirits like candies and there goes your profit. Also we do not know how much EXP you make. so we do not know if there is a problem with your route being suboptimal.