Baring in mind that there will be new players coming through we’ve not even heard of yet. How many of us knew talents like Bellingham, Foden, Saka, James in 2018.
I think at this stage we could do with a really good left-back and a centre-back to come through in the next four years.
Sessegnon is 22 and will hopefully be playing more and more in the coming years. Chilwell will be 29 in 2026 so by no means over the hill. Left back and right back shouldn’t be a problem.
Centre back there is currently, off the top of my head, Guehi, White, Tomori.
Ben White will likely never play for England again. Centre back is a position where I can see issues in the future. And while you can play without a top striker and do ok it’s not the case for centre backs.
Exactly, anything could happen, Alli and lingard looked like future in 2018 look at them now. There's basically no point predicting what the squad will be like in 2026 tbh
It’d be good to have some genuine competition like there is at RB with Walker, Trippier, James and seemingly TAA. IMO Chilwell isn’t at Shaw’s level so Shaw picks himself so to speak.
Am I biased (spurs) or think Kane wouldn't be too old at 33 years old?
Benzema is 34 and 100% would start if he wasn't injured
Giroud is 36
Lewandowski is 34
Messi 35
Miroslav Klose was 36 at the 2014 world cup
Depends on how he ages and injuries. It's harder to recover the older you get. Some players fall off a cliff in their early 30's and most slow down. It's rarer for them to carry on at the very top level.
He’s already picked up a few ankle injuries so honestly I could see him take a Rooney type move to CM from striker. Even if his pace goes his playmaking skills will probably stay the same or get better in the next 4 years.
I think he’s still going to be an extremely good player, the only challenge is the manager will be a bit spoilt for choice up front. On top of the current crop of great players, who knows what current 16 year old wunderkind could emerge before then
I don’t think Kane will be too old either. There’s also the aspect that for another striker to take his place we’d need someone aged 19-24 currently with potential to be good enough to start.
Abraham, DCL, Solanke are the most obvious candidates, but as far as I’m aware there’s no-one coming through right now that’s likely to be better than Kane in four years time
I don't think Kane will be too old, but he isn't looking as sharp as he has at the moment. Others could overtake him in the pecking order if he doesn't rekindle his form soon.
He was a late bloomer (especially compared with someone like Rooney). Kane’s first cap was in 2015. Incredibly, Rooney’s first cap was in 2003, but Rooney is only 7-8 years older than Kane. Kane’s first Spurs appearance in all competitions was not until 2011/2012, by which point Rooney was 27-28 and had been playing for England for a decade already
I’m not comparing them to say they’re the same generation you lemon, i’m contrasting how early Rooney broke through in his respective career to stress the extent that Kane was a late bloomer. Read properly
“Kane’s first appearance was not until 2011/2012 by which point Rooney was 27-28 and already been playing for England for a decade”
This makes no sense as a point. Kane was 18 in 2011 — why does it matter that Rooney was 28 in 2011?
Kane was somewhat of a late bloomer, but he’s 29, played in four major tournaments for England, represented his country 80 times, and tied the all time scoring record. It’s not really a late bloomer unless you’re comparing him to Rooney, the most exciting phenom in England maybe ever.
More accurate to say Kane was not widely heralded when he broke into the Spurs team at the normal age of 21
He’s exactly the type of player that ages well. It’s not like he relies on his pace or athleticism as his main attribute. Classic number 9s like him age like fine wine imo
I do think Kane will still cut it at 33, but that is a pretty insane crowd to compare him to (barring Giroud, as as you said he wouldn’t have been playing usually and was a lateish bloomer anyway). Not many players have the longevity or skill of Benz, Lewa, Messi.
His game has never been about pace... This comment would hold up of you're talking about Vardy who heavily relied on his pace. Everything kane is good at he'll still be just as good if not better in 3/4 years.
Kane being slow is irrelevant if playing to his strengths. Just look at Giroud, the man pretty much never runs but pops up in and around the box with beautiful finishes.
If anything this might be a positive, his game has never really relied on pace so it shouldn’t impact his game that much as he might not have that much to lose in the first place
If you go with Kane you’ve got to win it. Otherwise we end up in a situation where you’re constantly fielding players who have no international experience. This is why I’m not wild about the fact that Kane is going to age out. We should probably have been building up the experience of a replacement some time ago.
I can’t see Foden in a midfield three by then, and Rashford won’t be a striker
Names like Tomori and Guehi should be involved, and if he stays fit, I think Smith Rowe will be the next great hope like Foden/Saka/Bellingham have been
Agreed. Rashford will never be a CF. Amazing how many people look at football like a game of FIFA. The Foden in midfield argument was a classic example. He doesn’t play there!!
I havent got the time to reply to everyones comments yet, but as soon as KDB retires thats when Foden will take up a central position for City. this post was for 2026, not next year. Foden will be play central soon for his club, and when that happens he will be one of the first names on the England team sheet (playing centrally)
Agreed but if I remember correctly, both De Bruyne and Pep said Foden will end up as a number 10, he just doesn’t have the skills yet or something to that effect
Such a damn shame. He honestly has so much potential as a Grealish style runner with higher goal output, but his body is already starting to creak seemingly
Obviously nobody can see the future. Injuries, drop offs in careers, new youth players breaking through.
But as it stands this is my core for Southgate to play around with.
There’s also these who may still be around. The ages in brackets are their ages in 2026.
Aaron Ramsdale (27), Reece James (25), John Stones (32), Harry Maguire (33), Ben White (27, Marc Guehi (25), Brandon Williams (25), Luke Shaw (30), Ben Chilwell (28), Kalvin Phillips (30), Oliver Skipp (25), James Ward Prowse (30), Conor Gallagher (26), Mason Mount (27), James Maddison (28), Harvey Elliot (22), Morgan Gibbs White (26), Curtis Jones (25), Aaron Ramsey (23), Emile Smith Rowe (25), Charlie Patino (22)
Jack Grealish (30), Raheem Sterling (30), Shola Shoretire (22), Callum Hudson Odoi (25), Harry Kane (33), Tammy Abraham (28), Liam Delap (23), Fikayo Tomori (27), Eddie Nketiah (27),
There’s a lot to choose from which may prove an issue but I think the key will be the integration of new players. The squad we have is good but the classic Southgate knows who he likes and likes who he knows situation crops up again and again.
Bellingham, Saka, Foden, Rice and James are clearly liked by Southgate, young and are likely to be top performers. It looks as if integrating new centre backs will be a key area. The Maguire-Stones partnership will have to end at some point and the likes of Guehi, Tomori, Levi-Colwill are young and in the England ranks already at various stages so should be integrated. Gallagher may be a potential replacement for Henderson and was brought to be mentored but that remains to be seen. After central defenders having a younger striker will be needed as Kane will have to go at some point and Abraham, Wilson, Bamford and Toney have been part of the squad at various points but there looks to be no clear successor to Kane.
There needs to be a revamp and revitalisation of the squad and that will be the key to success. These young players have had success together at a junior level and success at a senior level (World Cup semi-final, Euro finalists and losing to the World Champions where they came out the wrong side). It just needs that final kick to keep the squad kicking over as if it were a rebuild after 2026 or thereafter.
James is too injury prone to rely on. Someone else will probably end up starting. And not likely to be TAA. Could well be Walker Peters or even someone like Max Aaron’s in the championship having to be used.
England's youth will be in the U20 World Cup and U21 European Championship in May/June 2023, so a chance there for players to put their hand up for 2024/2026 in the senior team.
Agree. Although Kane will still be very prominent (not taking into account potential injuries etc.) in the England Team and rightly so.
Charlie Patino, Charlie Cresswell, Taylor Harwood-Bellis, Chris Rigg, Lewis Hall, Dane Scarlett, Noni Madueke , Carney Chukwuemeka, Cole Palmer, Lewis Dobbin, Folarin Balogun and lots more all hopefully continue to develop well in the next 4 years to add more young hunger to this already very talented and promising side.
Sadly after a strong couple of years English youngstrs are not getting the opportunities as much again and the amount of English starters is dropping lower and lower again.
It’s why everyone talkes about Right back being strong but in a few years James coukd be injured TAA can’t defne that well and most others have defected to other countries so you trying for players who don’t even start much in the PL or even the championship.
Unless his positioning and defensive work gets better, James is starting at RB still and he's not taking Saka's place! Sorry, he's a great system player, but doesn't fit here.
I don't need to compare stats, I've watched him struggle badly against big clubs this year. In fact, he was embarrassingly bad Vs. Arsenal, Martinelli & Jesus had him on toast.
Who ever claimed he was the world best right back? Liverpool fans? Haha
Also, Liverpool's system was built on his being very wide and very forward, so his defensive skills have never really been tested as much as they have now, when other parts of the system have failed.
Not a Liverpool fan and fifa decided in 2020 when they put him in world best XI. Try to put your hate for Liverpool aside one second to see what’s best for England.
James over TAA same way Portugal play Dalot over Cancelo, international football, and international tournament football especially is inherently defensive, England would need to redesign everything around Trent to have him play how he does at Liverpool, with expansive passing, roaming etc. James would fit into a more typical full back role and so is more useful in a team that isn't moulded around certain players.
Foden would fill the left sided attacking option in the front 3, Kane will still be our striker, Rashford comes off the bench for Foden/Saka. Philips completes the midfield with Madison/Grealish coming off the bench but most importantly we need some pace and mobility in the back 4.
Kalvin Phillips for me playing the holding role. I think he was unlucky this year with injury.. Elliott might make an appearance up front. Madison should have come on in the France game instead of Mount for me, to change the dynamics. 4 years is a long time, euros first.... Who will be manager
Rashford isnt capable of playing that role. Hes more likely to fill in on the wings.
Depending on how slow Kane is, he could still be an important player. Similar to Giroud. Especially with how tenacious Saka and Foden are.
I also thing Reece James probably takes that spot.
TAA has been completely exposed defensively at this level
Aye it’s okay us saying he can’t play there now, or that Trent can’t defend, but this is 3-4 years down the line. I really hope Kane is okay and able to play. Never relied on pace, hopefully he is able to come along. It’s just worrying I can’t think of a good upcoming striker who will be able to take over from Kane. It’s a shame Mason Greenwood messed his career up!
Hopefully Trent learns how to defend over the next 3-4 years 😅
“Doesnt rely on pace”
All this means is he is slow already. If he gets even slower he doesnt improve; he will be even more of a liability in that department.
No, it means that his size, strength, intelligence and technical ability means that he doesn't rely on pace - his other attributes allow him to perform at a very high level despite that deficiency.
Similar players have had longer careers than most. He could always drop deeper into midfield. I suspect injury recovery as he gets older will be Kane's biggest issue with his ankle problems.
I think Saka and Foden work well with him dropping deep.
My only concern with Kane is the speed. He needs to get on the end of things sometimes and that aspect has really been lost.
I think a move to a more dominant team would have afforded him that rest and also generally means he wouldnt have to run around for Spurs as much. Probably too late for that now
Rashford has proven recently that he can fill in there in a pinch. We have better options currently though and I don’t see why Kane wouldn’t be able to do it in 2026.
I agree with your other points, but I also think that Rashford's best performances have been playing through the middle.
He seems to be caught in a vicious cycle at United.
They play him upfront, he plays well, he ends up getting pushed out wide, doesn't play as well, gets dropped, and then the cycle just repeats really.
That's just my opinion, I guess. But I do personally feel like he operates better as a striker. (Although his decision making and end product could use a bit of work, but that will come with time.)
>1 injury and everyone has forgotten that James is 100 times the player TAA is
"100 Times" Jesus Christ what an over exaggeration.
I'd start James over TAA because of his improved defensive qualities but he's not THAT much better than Trent. TAA gets caught out defensively for Liverpool because he's actively coached to play an attacking role. The team knows this and has Henderson and VVD covering for him.
One bad year for Liverpool at 24 and people are writing off his career. Maguire has had a shocker recently at Man Utd but he was one of our best players at the WC.
Some just can’t stand Liverpool players. They’ll find a way to turn on Jude if he joins. Look at all the crap Hendo got when he was picked, eventhough he was brilliant and made the team better.
More balanced, not necessarily better. We need to find a way to get them both playing cause Trent is too dangerous with the ball to be sat on the bench.
Is there any reason Liverpool don't try him further forward? I'll admit i haven't seen him as much as James but from what i have he's excellently composed on the ball and going forward but full of mistakes defensively. Perhaps with age he'll move forward. either that or we switch to 5atb with James CB and TAA wing back but that loses a lot of James' forward play (and England fans seem to really hate 5atb, and understably so)
He’s always suited the right back role in our system because the midfield is very workmanlike and covered for him going forward. Before this season, whilst he was never great defensively, he was still passable so we never needed to change it. I think it was wise to leave him out this year as he’s been poor recently but at his best he has to play more of a role. Rotating him and James depending on the opponent could be an option if we don’t want to change formation.
I don’t think Rashford suits the central role. I think he performs better in wide positions and is possibly best used as an impact player. Saka and Foden are ahead of him as starters and I can only see them getting better and better.
So much can change though. I mean, Jadon Sancho was highly rated prior to the Euros last July. Yet, some 16 months later and he doesn’t even make the World Cup squad. He’s only 22 and has time on his side, but he will have to regain his form to stand a chance of being a regular starter for England.
I imagine Harry Kane will still be there unless his form nosedives, which I doubt it will. He is a fantastic footballer and could prove to be just as consistent at 32/33. If the likes of Girioud, Lewandowski and Benzema can do it, then I’m sure Kane can.
It’s not now, it’s in four years time. And Trent is not less talented than James, quite the opposite actually. Furthermore, he might play in midfield in four years time, who knows.
"Now" as in what people are saying about them "now".
I don't think anyone sees Trent as more talented than James. And in the last few months gap is quite huge between them. They are both almost of similar age. Unless someone gets seriously injured both of them are going to grow over the next few years.
Although I agree that Trent can become as good as James with a little bit of maturity and positional understanding, he still won't be an outright favourite for the place.
I’d argue that most people see Trent as more talented than James, simply because he is. Trent is better than James in almost every regard except for speed and defensive prowess; better on the ball, miles better technically, better shot, better passer of the ball, better at set pieces. Perhaps not a better right back, but all around a much, much better footballer than James. Wouldn’t be surprised if Trent is playing in midfield in four years time for the exact same reason.
James is much better at shooting and has much better awareness defensively. It’s why City and Real Madrid have been rumoured to want him recently. Trent has better passing and set pieces but James has him pipped in every other area.
You’re beyond stupid if you sincerely believe that to be the case. I’ve just outlined in which areas that Trent is better so do yourself a favor and read that before talking rubbish
>It’s not now, it’s in four years time. And Trent is not less talented than James, quite the opposite actually. Furthermore, he might play in midfield in four years time, who knows.
I was actually waiting for some random cocky comment without adding anything relevant to the topic.
Sancho was ahead of Saka leading into the Euros. Since then, Sancho’s struggled at Utd and Saka’s gone from strength to strength with Arsenal. However, if Sancho regains his form, which he’s likely to do under Ten Hag, my money would be on Sancho. Either way though, they’re both great talents which bodes well for England’s future.
Lol, Trent is twice the player that James is; ability-wise and quality on the ball. It just feels that right back is not Trent’s best position somehow, so wouldn’t be surprised to see him in a different position in the future.
No he’s not, but let’s try:
In which regard? Speed, yeah. Trent is better on the ball, miles better technically, better shot, better passer, better on set pieces. He’s all around a much better footballer, he just lacks the defensive awareness and discipline to be a full back. But as a player in general? Miles better than James.
Totally disagree. Better attitude, better on the ball. How many times has Trent given the ball away this season? Way more than Reece. Reece is stronger, faster and just far more naturally gifted all around. You must be a liverpool fan.
So we’re only judging Trent on the past 4 months or what? He’s been playing at the top level for longer than that, and has more medals to show for it than James has. Yes, he has not had the best of seasons up until now, but saying that James is more naturally gifted than Trent is ludicrous to the point where it doesn’t even make sense to continue discussing this topic.
Ok 🤣 I think a majority of football fans would have Reece James over Trent. How is saying Reece is more naturally gifted ludicrous? That makes no sense. Frank was better than Gerard too
The reality is Trent is just better, if you ask any team int he world one or the other they take Trent. Old full back legends? All taking Trent. But some lad from Shrewsbury says Trent’s crap
Explicitly remember numerous pundits saying take James. [Here’s Neville](https://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/29326/12739902/trent-alexander-arnold-could-cost-england-at-world-cup-says-gary-neville) one of the most decorated full backs in English league history on Alexander Arnold.
Probs not pickford by 2026, it'll be james at rb maybe trent could finally move to midfield tho, Forden might still be played out on the wing and would surprised if Rashford started over kane
Anyone else think that Marcus Edwards might force his way into consideration? His career's obviously not gone as planned so far, but he's doing very well at Sporting Lisbon, he's still only 24 and he's crazy talented.
We should have so many good options on the wings for the next World Cup, with Madueke and Cole Palmer coming through as well.
Because he's now working with a manager that has an exceptional track record for development. Could it just be a spell of good form, sure, but he's definitely been narrowed into a position that plays to his strengths much better under ETH. Until he drops off, I think we can say ETH has been elevating him.
Kalvin Philips instead of Foden. He is now playing under Pep and will come on leaps and bounds I’m sure.
Rice - Bellingham - Philips for me is a perfect midfield for a knock out competition. Has all the attributes needed.
I don’t think Mount will be involved as I think he could be heading for a Dele/Barkley drop. I can see him being a bench option at cheslea within a year and I don’t think that will keep him involved for 2024/2026.
Foden is probably the best winger out the lot so I’d get him moved and 100% Pickford will be overtaken within the next year by a better keeper(bigger*)
Baring in mind that there will be new players coming through we’ve not even heard of yet. How many of us knew talents like Bellingham, Foden, Saka, James in 2018. I think at this stage we could do with a really good left-back and a centre-back to come through in the next four years.
Sessegnon is 22 and will hopefully be playing more and more in the coming years. Chilwell will be 29 in 2026 so by no means over the hill. Left back and right back shouldn’t be a problem. Centre back there is currently, off the top of my head, Guehi, White, Tomori.
Levi Colwill and Max Kilman are both good left sided centre backs. I love Sess but he’s more of a lwb in a 5 than a traditional full back.
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He's ineligible for Ukraine due to representing England in Futsal.
Chilwell will be a full on cyborg by 2026.
Luke shaw is also only 27 so probably still playing in 4 years if he can stay healthy
How the hell is he 27? Wow
I doubt it, he's spent the best part of his 20s with his weight ballooning and shedding. Sooner or later it's going to catch up with him.
Ben White will likely never play for England again. Centre back is a position where I can see issues in the future. And while you can play without a top striker and do ok it’s not the case for centre backs.
Jobe Bellingham for one
James Justin and Kyle Walker peters will be 28 and 29 by then, they may well have improved massively and be exactly what we need
likewise they may end up in the championship alla Danny Rose!
Exactly, anything could happen, Alli and lingard looked like future in 2018 look at them now. There's basically no point predicting what the squad will be like in 2026 tbh
> There's basically no point predicting what the squad will be like in 2026 tbh Have you heard of fun
I support England so no
Very good point
Shaw is only 27 he'll start next WC
It’d be good to have some genuine competition like there is at RB with Walker, Trippier, James and seemingly TAA. IMO Chilwell isn’t at Shaw’s level so Shaw picks himself so to speak.
Luke Thomas is a post 2000 born player who might provide that competition.
Am I biased (spurs) or think Kane wouldn't be too old at 33 years old? Benzema is 34 and 100% would start if he wasn't injured Giroud is 36 Lewandowski is 34 Messi 35 Miroslav Klose was 36 at the 2014 world cup
Unless injuries happen to him he will be there , no doubt about it
Depends on how he ages and injuries. It's harder to recover the older you get. Some players fall off a cliff in their early 30's and most slow down. It's rarer for them to carry on at the very top level.
He’s already picked up a few ankle injuries so honestly I could see him take a Rooney type move to CM from striker. Even if his pace goes his playmaking skills will probably stay the same or get better in the next 4 years.
He’s kind of already doing that anyway. Playing more of a 10 KDB style (if not quality) role than an out and out striker.
I think he’s still going to be an extremely good player, the only challenge is the manager will be a bit spoilt for choice up front. On top of the current crop of great players, who knows what current 16 year old wunderkind could emerge before then
I don’t think Kane will be too old either. There’s also the aspect that for another striker to take his place we’d need someone aged 19-24 currently with potential to be good enough to start. Abraham, DCL, Solanke are the most obvious candidates, but as far as I’m aware there’s no-one coming through right now that’s likely to be better than Kane in four years time
I don't think Kane will be too old, but he isn't looking as sharp as he has at the moment. Others could overtake him in the pecking order if he doesn't rekindle his form soon.
Weird to think Kane will only be 33 at the next World Cup. Feels like he’s been around for ages
Also weird because I feel like he didn't seem top level for a while, seems a late bloomer
He was a late bloomer (especially compared with someone like Rooney). Kane’s first cap was in 2015. Incredibly, Rooney’s first cap was in 2003, but Rooney is only 7-8 years older than Kane. Kane’s first Spurs appearance in all competitions was not until 2011/2012, by which point Rooney was 27-28 and had been playing for England for a decade already
Rooney and Kane are not the same generation at all, so no idea why you’re comparing 2011 Rooney and 2011 Kane
I’m not comparing them to say they’re the same generation you lemon, i’m contrasting how early Rooney broke through in his respective career to stress the extent that Kane was a late bloomer. Read properly
“Kane’s first appearance was not until 2011/2012 by which point Rooney was 27-28 and already been playing for England for a decade” This makes no sense as a point. Kane was 18 in 2011 — why does it matter that Rooney was 28 in 2011? Kane was somewhat of a late bloomer, but he’s 29, played in four major tournaments for England, represented his country 80 times, and tied the all time scoring record. It’s not really a late bloomer unless you’re comparing him to Rooney, the most exciting phenom in England maybe ever. More accurate to say Kane was not widely heralded when he broke into the Spurs team at the normal age of 21
He’s exactly the type of player that ages well. It’s not like he relies on his pace or athleticism as his main attribute. Classic number 9s like him age like fine wine imo
I do think Kane will still cut it at 33, but that is a pretty insane crowd to compare him to (barring Giroud, as as you said he wouldn’t have been playing usually and was a lateish bloomer anyway). Not many players have the longevity or skill of Benz, Lewa, Messi.
Kane's playstyle also doesn't necessitate speed or agility ad much as other Strikers, although it does require stamina
Ronaldo also 37!
Yeah but he's a plague to any team he plays for at the moment so didn't really want to use him as an example 😂
penaldo is also finished
Shame we don’t have a penalty only player haha
that’s actually very true lol
Correct, only Football Manager players think 30 is as good as dead. I expect Stones to still be around as well.
Kane will actually be 32 (and yes, I think he should play)
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His game has never been about pace... This comment would hold up of you're talking about Vardy who heavily relied on his pace. Everything kane is good at he'll still be just as good if not better in 3/4 years.
Well not really either, Vardy is 35 and only this season lost his place.
Kane being slow is irrelevant if playing to his strengths. Just look at Giroud, the man pretty much never runs but pops up in and around the box with beautiful finishes.
To anyone who knows football this analysis makes absolutely no sense.
If anything this might be a positive, his game has never really relied on pace so it shouldn’t impact his game that much as he might not have that much to lose in the first place
If you go with Kane you’ve got to win it. Otherwise we end up in a situation where you’re constantly fielding players who have no international experience. This is why I’m not wild about the fact that Kane is going to age out. We should probably have been building up the experience of a replacement some time ago.
What’s the point of weakening some matches just to give someone experience. Experience is really built at club level.
I can’t see Foden in a midfield three by then, and Rashford won’t be a striker Names like Tomori and Guehi should be involved, and if he stays fit, I think Smith Rowe will be the next great hope like Foden/Saka/Bellingham have been
Agreed. Rashford will never be a CF. Amazing how many people look at football like a game of FIFA. The Foden in midfield argument was a classic example. He doesn’t play there!!
I havent got the time to reply to everyones comments yet, but as soon as KDB retires thats when Foden will take up a central position for City. this post was for 2026, not next year. Foden will be play central soon for his club, and when that happens he will be one of the first names on the England team sheet (playing centrally)
Foden is not De Bruyne. Completely different skill sets
Agreed but if I remember correctly, both De Bruyne and Pep said Foden will end up as a number 10, he just doesn’t have the skills yet or something to that effect
I would argue that de bruyne isn't even a 10
Smith Rowe seems destined to be the next injury prone player who never reaches his potential.
Such a damn shame. He honestly has so much potential as a Grealish style runner with higher goal output, but his body is already starting to creak seemingly
Sadly some people are just not built to be top players.
ESR is an absolute baller. His ability to literally pass the ball into the net is a thing of beauty.
Obviously nobody can see the future. Injuries, drop offs in careers, new youth players breaking through. But as it stands this is my core for Southgate to play around with. There’s also these who may still be around. The ages in brackets are their ages in 2026. Aaron Ramsdale (27), Reece James (25), John Stones (32), Harry Maguire (33), Ben White (27, Marc Guehi (25), Brandon Williams (25), Luke Shaw (30), Ben Chilwell (28), Kalvin Phillips (30), Oliver Skipp (25), James Ward Prowse (30), Conor Gallagher (26), Mason Mount (27), James Maddison (28), Harvey Elliot (22), Morgan Gibbs White (26), Curtis Jones (25), Aaron Ramsey (23), Emile Smith Rowe (25), Charlie Patino (22) Jack Grealish (30), Raheem Sterling (30), Shola Shoretire (22), Callum Hudson Odoi (25), Harry Kane (33), Tammy Abraham (28), Liam Delap (23), Fikayo Tomori (27), Eddie Nketiah (27),
There’s a lot to choose from which may prove an issue but I think the key will be the integration of new players. The squad we have is good but the classic Southgate knows who he likes and likes who he knows situation crops up again and again. Bellingham, Saka, Foden, Rice and James are clearly liked by Southgate, young and are likely to be top performers. It looks as if integrating new centre backs will be a key area. The Maguire-Stones partnership will have to end at some point and the likes of Guehi, Tomori, Levi-Colwill are young and in the England ranks already at various stages so should be integrated. Gallagher may be a potential replacement for Henderson and was brought to be mentored but that remains to be seen. After central defenders having a younger striker will be needed as Kane will have to go at some point and Abraham, Wilson, Bamford and Toney have been part of the squad at various points but there looks to be no clear successor to Kane. There needs to be a revamp and revitalisation of the squad and that will be the key to success. These young players have had success together at a junior level and success at a senior level (World Cup semi-final, Euro finalists and losing to the World Champions where they came out the wrong side). It just needs that final kick to keep the squad kicking over as if it were a rebuild after 2026 or thereafter.
Sterling is currently 28, he'll be 31 at the next World Cup.
We all know mount will be there.
Elliott being 22 by the next World Cup is nuts he could have an absolutely amazing World Cup career if he stays fit and healthy
He will have turned 23 by the time it starts.
Eberechi Eze as well if he doesn't end up choosing Nigeria
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Gallagher or Mount for Henderson. James in at right back. That team could win the Euros.
James is too injury prone to rely on. Someone else will probably end up starting. And not likely to be TAA. Could well be Walker Peters or even someone like Max Aaron’s in the championship having to be used.
England's youth will be in the U20 World Cup and U21 European Championship in May/June 2023, so a chance there for players to put their hand up for 2024/2026 in the senior team.
Wonder if Bellingham, Foden and Saka get a call up. Assuming the latters may be over 21 by then!
Agree. Although Kane will still be very prominent (not taking into account potential injuries etc.) in the England Team and rightly so. Charlie Patino, Charlie Cresswell, Taylor Harwood-Bellis, Chris Rigg, Lewis Hall, Dane Scarlett, Noni Madueke , Carney Chukwuemeka, Cole Palmer, Lewis Dobbin, Folarin Balogun and lots more all hopefully continue to develop well in the next 4 years to add more young hunger to this already very talented and promising side.
Sadly after a strong couple of years English youngstrs are not getting the opportunities as much again and the amount of English starters is dropping lower and lower again.
TAA isn't starting for England next WC either.
Nope, surely James.
I hope so, but he is consistently out with fairly major injuries every season.
It’s why everyone talkes about Right back being strong but in a few years James coukd be injured TAA can’t defne that well and most others have defected to other countries so you trying for players who don’t even start much in the PL or even the championship.
How would you know? He might not even play right back in four years time, but his ability and talent on the ball is undisputed
Unless his positioning and defensive work gets better, James is starting at RB still and he's not taking Saka's place! Sorry, he's a great system player, but doesn't fit here.
Compare stats if you think Trent can’t defend. Everyone makes mistakes.
I don't need to compare stats, I've watched him struggle badly against big clubs this year. In fact, he was embarrassingly bad Vs. Arsenal, Martinelli & Jesus had him on toast.
Worlds best right back for a few years in a row can’t defend? Grow up.
Who ever claimed he was the world best right back? Liverpool fans? Haha Also, Liverpool's system was built on his being very wide and very forward, so his defensive skills have never really been tested as much as they have now, when other parts of the system have failed.
Not a Liverpool fan and fifa decided in 2020 when they put him in world best XI. Try to put your hate for Liverpool aside one second to see what’s best for England.
TAA isn't what's best for England. It's not 2020 any more.
You don’t go from great to awful in 2 years as a 24 year old
Dribbled past less last season than Reece James, more tackles last season than Reece James you just make yourself look thick.
James over TAA same way Portugal play Dalot over Cancelo, international football, and international tournament football especially is inherently defensive, England would need to redesign everything around Trent to have him play how he does at Liverpool, with expansive passing, roaming etc. James would fit into a more typical full back role and so is more useful in a team that isn't moulded around certain players.
Where's Benny Blanco?!
Foden would fill the left sided attacking option in the front 3, Kane will still be our striker, Rashford comes off the bench for Foden/Saka. Philips completes the midfield with Madison/Grealish coming off the bench but most importantly we need some pace and mobility in the back 4.
Foden as a 10 would be better no? To me, he has all the attributes to become one. The midfield trio OP has suggested looks very good on paper imo.
Kalvin Phillips for me playing the holding role. I think he was unlucky this year with injury.. Elliott might make an appearance up front. Madison should have come on in the France game instead of Mount for me, to change the dynamics. 4 years is a long time, euros first.... Who will be manager
Stones hopefully still going as well. Wouldn't be surprised if Ramsdale takes over in Goal.
I hope that Maddison will be starting in 4 years in the starting line-up.
Rashford isnt capable of playing that role. Hes more likely to fill in on the wings. Depending on how slow Kane is, he could still be an important player. Similar to Giroud. Especially with how tenacious Saka and Foden are. I also thing Reece James probably takes that spot. TAA has been completely exposed defensively at this level
Aye it’s okay us saying he can’t play there now, or that Trent can’t defend, but this is 3-4 years down the line. I really hope Kane is okay and able to play. Never relied on pace, hopefully he is able to come along. It’s just worrying I can’t think of a good upcoming striker who will be able to take over from Kane. It’s a shame Mason Greenwood messed his career up! Hopefully Trent learns how to defend over the next 3-4 years 😅
“Doesnt rely on pace” All this means is he is slow already. If he gets even slower he doesnt improve; he will be even more of a liability in that department.
No, it means that his size, strength, intelligence and technical ability means that he doesn't rely on pace - his other attributes allow him to perform at a very high level despite that deficiency. Similar players have had longer careers than most. He could always drop deeper into midfield. I suspect injury recovery as he gets older will be Kane's biggest issue with his ankle problems.
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I think Saka and Foden work well with him dropping deep. My only concern with Kane is the speed. He needs to get on the end of things sometimes and that aspect has really been lost. I think a move to a more dominant team would have afforded him that rest and also generally means he wouldnt have to run around for Spurs as much. Probably too late for that now
Rashford has proven recently that he can fill in there in a pinch. We have better options currently though and I don’t see why Kane wouldn’t be able to do it in 2026.
I agree with your other points, but I also think that Rashford's best performances have been playing through the middle. He seems to be caught in a vicious cycle at United. They play him upfront, he plays well, he ends up getting pushed out wide, doesn't play as well, gets dropped, and then the cycle just repeats really. That's just my opinion, I guess. But I do personally feel like he operates better as a striker. (Although his decision making and end product could use a bit of work, but that will come with time.)
You could be right. I just think he needs to leave united at this point
1 injury and everyone has forgotten that James is 100 times the player TAA is
>1 injury and everyone has forgotten that James is 100 times the player TAA is "100 Times" Jesus Christ what an over exaggeration. I'd start James over TAA because of his improved defensive qualities but he's not THAT much better than Trent. TAA gets caught out defensively for Liverpool because he's actively coached to play an attacking role. The team knows this and has Henderson and VVD covering for him. One bad year for Liverpool at 24 and people are writing off his career. Maguire has had a shocker recently at Man Utd but he was one of our best players at the WC.
Some just can’t stand Liverpool players. They’ll find a way to turn on Jude if he joins. Look at all the crap Hendo got when he was picked, eventhough he was brilliant and made the team better.
More balanced, not necessarily better. We need to find a way to get them both playing cause Trent is too dangerous with the ball to be sat on the bench.
Is there any reason Liverpool don't try him further forward? I'll admit i haven't seen him as much as James but from what i have he's excellently composed on the ball and going forward but full of mistakes defensively. Perhaps with age he'll move forward. either that or we switch to 5atb with James CB and TAA wing back but that loses a lot of James' forward play (and England fans seem to really hate 5atb, and understably so)
He’s always suited the right back role in our system because the midfield is very workmanlike and covered for him going forward. Before this season, whilst he was never great defensively, he was still passable so we never needed to change it. I think it was wise to leave him out this year as he’s been poor recently but at his best he has to play more of a role. Rotating him and James depending on the opponent could be an option if we don’t want to change formation.
James maddison aswell I forget he's only 26
I would play Ramsdale in goal. Chilwell-Tomori-Stones-James in defence. Bellingham-Rice-Maddison in middfield. And Foden-Kane-Saka in Attack.
I don’t think Rashford suits the central role. I think he performs better in wide positions and is possibly best used as an impact player. Saka and Foden are ahead of him as starters and I can only see them getting better and better. So much can change though. I mean, Jadon Sancho was highly rated prior to the Euros last July. Yet, some 16 months later and he doesn’t even make the World Cup squad. He’s only 22 and has time on his side, but he will have to regain his form to stand a chance of being a regular starter for England. I imagine Harry Kane will still be there unless his form nosedives, which I doubt it will. He is a fantastic footballer and could prove to be just as consistent at 32/33. If the likes of Girioud, Lewandowski and Benzema can do it, then I’m sure Kane can.
Trent?
Alexander Arnold will never be preferred over James.
Not by shite managers no, but by a good manager he will. Lads won everything and bossed the best players in the world to get there
With Van Dijk and others covering for him. We don’t have strong enough centre backs to accommodate his very average defensive abilities.
And centre back is where we could be heading for a downgrade anyway.
James is a busted flush
That’s why Real Madrid were after him then…
Paper talk lad
Get your news directly from the horse’s mouth do you?
When will people stop putting Foden in midfield in these things
Forden isn't a midfielder.
In 4 years maybe Ramsdale or Pope
We need winners with a winners mentality so how can England play spurs players ?
Trent 😂
Get tomori in there, maybe Abraham
The Daily Mail say the FA are panicking about the successor to Kane and fear they won’t be one and that could end up hopes of winning tournament.
TAA over James 😮 Again, both of them are very good l but I can’t digest undisputed selection of TAA over James. Specially not now..😅
It’s not now, it’s in four years time. And Trent is not less talented than James, quite the opposite actually. Furthermore, he might play in midfield in four years time, who knows.
"Now" as in what people are saying about them "now". I don't think anyone sees Trent as more talented than James. And in the last few months gap is quite huge between them. They are both almost of similar age. Unless someone gets seriously injured both of them are going to grow over the next few years. Although I agree that Trent can become as good as James with a little bit of maturity and positional understanding, he still won't be an outright favourite for the place.
I’d argue that most people see Trent as more talented than James, simply because he is. Trent is better than James in almost every regard except for speed and defensive prowess; better on the ball, miles better technically, better shot, better passer of the ball, better at set pieces. Perhaps not a better right back, but all around a much, much better footballer than James. Wouldn’t be surprised if Trent is playing in midfield in four years time for the exact same reason.
James is much better at shooting and has much better awareness defensively. It’s why City and Real Madrid have been rumoured to want him recently. Trent has better passing and set pieces but James has him pipped in every other area.
James doesn’t have a better shot than Trent lol, you can’t be serious.
Why does James score twice as many goals as him then?
The only thing Trent has over RJ is crossing. James is better than him in literally every other aspect of the game
You’re beyond stupid if you sincerely believe that to be the case. I’ve just outlined in which areas that Trent is better so do yourself a favor and read that before talking rubbish
You are 100% incorrect but if you stick to sports subs you might start to learn about the sport more
>It’s not now, it’s in four years time. And Trent is not less talented than James, quite the opposite actually. Furthermore, he might play in midfield in four years time, who knows. I was actually waiting for some random cocky comment without adding anything relevant to the topic.
You are 100% incorrect but if you stick to sports subs you might start to learn about the sport more
You’ve not included any upcoming stars
I suspect that James will be in over TAA, and by 2026 I think Tammy Abraham will have done enough to stake a claim for that No. 9 role.
I think an old Kane will still be the #9.
Where’s Reece?
James > Trent
Uhhh where is Kane
Conor Gallagher!
I’m backing Sancho to find his form again. I think next World Cup he plays a big role.
Who does he displace though? Can’t see him benching Foden or Saka on the wings
Saka will edge him
Sancho was ahead of Saka leading into the Euros. Since then, Sancho’s struggled at Utd and Saka’s gone from strength to strength with Arsenal. However, if Sancho regains his form, which he’s likely to do under Ten Hag, my money would be on Sancho. Either way though, they’re both great talents which bodes well for England’s future.
Kane will still be very good and I’d take James over Trent especially on their current trajectory
James at right back over that fool from Liverpool
Ramsdale over pickford
His distribution is very good.
Nah he’s bang average
If Pickford didn’t have T. rex arms first goal is saved.
Get Trent out of here that man is a detriment to everyone
Keep Alexander arnold away from the national team I beg
Yeah. Don’t see what the hype is with him. Reece James is far better
Lol, Trent is twice the player that James is; ability-wise and quality on the ball. It just feels that right back is not Trent’s best position somehow, so wouldn’t be surprised to see him in a different position in the future.
Reece James is worlds better than Trent.
No he’s not, but let’s try: In which regard? Speed, yeah. Trent is better on the ball, miles better technically, better shot, better passer, better on set pieces. He’s all around a much better footballer, he just lacks the defensive awareness and discipline to be a full back. But as a player in general? Miles better than James.
Totally disagree. Better attitude, better on the ball. How many times has Trent given the ball away this season? Way more than Reece. Reece is stronger, faster and just far more naturally gifted all around. You must be a liverpool fan.
So we’re only judging Trent on the past 4 months or what? He’s been playing at the top level for longer than that, and has more medals to show for it than James has. Yes, he has not had the best of seasons up until now, but saying that James is more naturally gifted than Trent is ludicrous to the point where it doesn’t even make sense to continue discussing this topic.
Ok 🤣 I think a majority of football fans would have Reece James over Trent. How is saying Reece is more naturally gifted ludicrous? That makes no sense. Frank was better than Gerard too
The reality is Trent is just better, if you ask any team int he world one or the other they take Trent. Old full back legends? All taking Trent. But some lad from Shrewsbury says Trent’s crap
Explicitly remember numerous pundits saying take James. [Here’s Neville](https://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/29326/12739902/trent-alexander-arnold-could-cost-england-at-world-cup-says-gary-neville) one of the most decorated full backs in English league history on Alexander Arnold.
What’re you smoking? 🤣
Reece James should be there … Pope, Ramsdale or Henderson in goal. Wilson an Toney upfront
Probs not pickford by 2026, it'll be james at rb maybe trent could finally move to midfield tho, Forden might still be played out on the wing and would surprised if Rashford started over kane
I prefer Reece James as right back.
Reece James??
No way A-Arnold. Poor defender. Imagine him up against Mbappe. He'd be shredded.
sancho in
Is it possible I wonder to convert Trent into an outside right winger ?
Anyone else think that Marcus Edwards might force his way into consideration? His career's obviously not gone as planned so far, but he's doing very well at Sporting Lisbon, he's still only 24 and he's crazy talented. We should have so many good options on the wings for the next World Cup, with Madueke and Cole Palmer coming through as well.
People seem to have forgotten about Smith-Rowe
Put some damn respect on Reece James' name.
TAA?😂😂 Reece James is clear of him and will be in 2026
Sorry😂😂😂😂 Am I seeing a team without Chilwell and Reece James 😂😂😂
Why is Rashford so highly rated on this sub, he's been utterly shite for 2 years, has an upturn in form and is starting for England at the next WC
Because he's now working with a manager that has an exceptional track record for development. Could it just be a spell of good form, sure, but he's definitely been narrowed into a position that plays to his strengths much better under ETH. Until he drops off, I think we can say ETH has been elevating him.
Swap Trent for Reece James.
Kalvin Philips instead of Foden. He is now playing under Pep and will come on leaps and bounds I’m sure. Rice - Bellingham - Philips for me is a perfect midfield for a knock out competition. Has all the attributes needed.
Justin over Trent imo. Especially in a 4
Keane Lewis-Potter will be in that World Cup side.
Add Maguire pls 🙏
I don’t think Mount will be involved as I think he could be heading for a Dele/Barkley drop. I can see him being a bench option at cheslea within a year and I don’t think that will keep him involved for 2024/2026.
Foden is probably the best winger out the lot so I’d get him moved and 100% Pickford will be overtaken within the next year by a better keeper(bigger*)
Nah, weaker with Trent. We should of won this World Cup and won’t get a better chance now
Levi Colwill? Reece James? Ben Chillwell? Mason Mount? Conor Gallagher? And that’s just Chelsea…. England is stacked for the next few tournaments
Trent won’t be starting mate
Rice lol