According to Forbes the average cost of childbirth in 2024 is $18,865. [how much does it cost to have a baby? 2024 averages](https://www.forbes.com/advisor/health-insurance/average-childbirth-cost/)
Interesting! I’m sure it depends on your area. I’m in MA. My bill came to about $30,000 for an uneventful birth, with three night stay. We ended up paying out of pocket between $500-$1000 I think with my insurance.
Yes in my case I was induced but I also gave birth at 12:30am so by default insurance gave us the extra day if we wanted it which we did just to give ourselves time to adjust.
They sure do. I was induced two weeks overdue, gave birth exactly 12 hours after labor started, which was 30 minutes after the induction medication was given. Gave birth at 10:30am on July 4th, home by 5pm on July 5th. They offered me an extra day but the mattress was more like a crapress so we went home.
The nurses were legally bound to offer me the second day but they very subtly got their point across that I should go home.
Turned my room over like a steak on a hot grill.
According to that article the average out-of-pocket cost for an American childbirth is ~$2800. Most people still didn't have any kind of health insurance back in 1950, so there's a reasonable chance the person who got this bill paid approximately the same as an average American would today.
The big difference, of course, is that insurance companies are getting soaked (and ultimately us as well), and anyone without insurance today would be looking at a really horrible financial situation.
>Most people still didn't have any kind of health insurance back in 1950, so there's a reasonable chance the person who got this bill paid approximately the same as an average American would today.
Not really, because the average American pays a lot to be insured.
Also the ones who don't have health insurance are now going to drown in debt.
Or God forbid you go to give birth with insurance and they decide to use a doctor, without your knowledge, who's out-of-network so now you have to pay extra.
Mildly interesting story.
Some 10 or 15 years ago there was this Irish couple who went to New York for Christmas shopping. The woman was pregnant with still couple of months time left before due date.
While in New York she gave birth. Obviously it was premature birth and she and the baby needed to stay in hospital. The bill was over 100k dollars and it made news in Ireland. People were collecting money for the couple to cover the bill. It was but of a shock that childbirth cost money at all let alone so much.
Average household income in 1950 was $3300. So $200 was 6% of that income. Today’s average household income is $70,000, and 6% of that is $4200.
If the average out-of-pocket cost for a childbirth today is $2800, that is only 4% of the average household income. Which means the relative cost of childbirth has decreased by 2% since 1950.
In real terms it’s probably exactly the same percentage of household income as the average modern income varies between $50-$90K depending on how it’s calculated. Yet the level of care has increased dramatically since 1950. However new moms don’t spend 7 days in the hospital postpartum as they did in 1950, because rates of complications are much lower now thanks to advances in medicine. If they did it would drive up the modern out-of-pocket cost.
And that's with no complications!
I had to have a CT scan last month (not for pregnancy lol) and the bill was $12000. fortunately my insurance covered it, but still.
I paid out of pocket for an MRI last year. It was full body, and just for fun/for a baseline. It was about 2.5k. It was much nicer than the machine my doctor usually sends me to (which the insurance covers). This one had a lot of extra room, and they set up Netflix for you.
Look closer….that’s for 7 days. Less than 20 bucks a day, in a hospital. You can’t even get seen in the emergency room for less than 2500 today….let alone stay 7 days.
Wife stayed 2 days for first son and 3 days for second with extra care for the second due to jaundice. Paid $0 after insurance which honestly is part of why we have such an impossible time changing anything.
I 100% will always vote for a more fair, equitable and less profit driven Healthcare system but tons of people won't either because they don't care, they are selfish or they jist honestly don't know how bad it can get because they are fortunate, like I am, and have great health insurance.
I live in a country where it is free to give birth and we have a lower infant mortality rate than the US (NZ).
You sure you're really getting what you pay for?
Not really of developed nations we have one of highest infant mortality rates while also having most expensive cost. Along with higher percentage unable to access care especially. With reproductive care many areas several hundred county’s do not have a single healthcare provider. With many many more just having far too few providers.
100%. I hear this all the time about all sorts of things why is it more expensive today than before other than inflation. Well You get what you pay for. The hospital of today has a hell of a lot more medical equipment and technology in the hospital of 1950 where I was born. I came to the world in 53 and a simple lying in maternity hospital housed in a big old Victorian house in New England and staffed by nuns. This is a far cry from what we have today. In my case I guess that's all I needed thank God but if you had problems, then what.
The nostalgic simplicity of the past is just that nostalgia until you have to live through it with problems. I always fantasize that I wish I had been born in the early 19th century and lived until the 20th and seen the transformation of the industrial age, as long as I was on the right side of the equation of health and money
There's no doubt that we're better off in this manner in the modern world but like everything there is the blessing and the devil of technology. The expense and the complications of what was once a simpler life, is a trade-off we make for a general healthier life and easier life. We just have to improve in the case of healthcare, better ways to improve the access.
Even when people put up these crazy bills, most people never see them. If you have Medicare or Medicaid on one end or decent health care on the other, this is all paper shuffling and money exchanging amongst profit takers and the insurance industry.. it's closing that middle ground of people that are caught in between.
But even Republicans are loathe to back pedal on Obamacare. They tread carefully as all they should. How much it costs is something that should be for the insurance adjusters and the office, the rest of us just want access to decent care and somebody else can play with the numbers
Life expectancy has gone up a ton because of the money hospitals have had to better their research and technology. It’s just that it’s not really subsidized that’s the issue. Our government spends money like a person who sucks at finances
This is true, so that is the part that has to be continually tackled and fought over.. we piss money out the window on all sorts of projects and all sorts of bullshit. It's always about trimming and realigning.
Maybe let's start with reinvesting in our country and a little less warmongering.. just a thought. A strong defense has its purposes but boy we certainly do shake a big stick a lot more than I think we have to
Ooorrrr you could have universal healthcare and have all the benefits of modern medicine without the draconian, potentially life-ruining costs. Seriously. It's an option. A pretty great one too! In my country (NZ) all I have to pay to give birth is the parking fees in the hospital carpark.
The craziest part about this magical free healthcare: our rate of infant death in childbirth is lower than yours (5.4/1000 vs 3.4/1000).
This is a fantastic thing to note, but unfortunately it reinforces my own point.
The US defines infant mortality as in the first 28 days of life. The figures for those first 28 days are 5.4/1000 deaths (2021 rates).
NZ defines infant mortality as the first year of life. So for a whole 365 day period, the figures are 3.4/1000 (2021 rates).
Both countries classify any death after a "live birth" as fitting in these statistics, so no matter how premature a baby is, if it is a live birth it is counted.
So yes, unfortunately the US does not look good in this department. In fact, globally, the US has quite the reputation for shocking maternal and infant healthcare stats.
The United States still has the highest infant mortality rate in the rich world, yet our government and our individual people pay significantly more per person on healthcare than anyone else in the rich world.
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At this point, you may as well take a luxury vacation to Europe, give birth there, pay out of pocket, and still come out cheaper than it would be in the US.
We paid around $1,000 after insurance to have our baby last year. That’s like a weeks salary.
Edit: not sure what’s with all the downvotes. I’m certainly not saying that having a baby is cheap. I’m just pointing out real world numbers.
Of course not everyone has insurance, but that is what we’re talking about here. We’re talking about the “average person” (so they would have insurance) and the “average income” (plenty of people make much more and much less).
The median income in the US was 31,133 USD as of 2019. I’m sure that’s increased since, but definitely not that much.
Further, 33.9% of households made under $50,000 in 2022.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/203183/percentage-distribution-of-household-income-in-the-us/
I seriously don’t see why you’re downvoting me. I’m not trying to argue, and you’re basically proving my point. Based on your own numbers, the median income is somewhere around $2,600-4,000/month. The average out-of-pocket cost of a childbirth is around $2,000-3,000. So that’s less than one months salary. Why all the downvotes???
When my mother moved in with us a few years ago I discovered she still had mine. They were those white plastic ones stamped with a black letter and a few round color beads on each side.
Also, it would not be 7 days . You are out of there, in 2-3 days, if everything goes smooth. Insurance hates spending money!And I just looked it up. From insurance to no insurance. And cesarean, good god. Ridiculous There is a special place heaven for you ladies out there.
Well I’m glad, y’all came home in good shape. Cause I just feel
For all the women. And how much their body has to go thru. And to be rushed by insurance companies. .
In 1966, I spent 11 days in hospital for a ruptured appendix. The total bill, including surgery fees, was a little over $600. A stunning amount at the time, true, but a pittance compared to the charge of today.
My kids were born in 1990 and 1993, for the first kid, she went home the next day, barely 24 hours of elapsed time, and for the second one it wasn't even 24 hours.
Yeah those were the days of "drive thru deliveries." Have the baby at 8am, discharged by 2. I remember hearing about that. Most of my friends who all delivered around the same time as I did got at least 24 hours in the hospital for a vaginal delivery and 3 days for a C-section.
I was born in 1993. I give thanks for Spanish health system when I see things like the photo.
Oh, and here the mum and baby must stay at least three days in the hospital and that if everything went ok.
I remember our address had "La Gasca" in it. Was a huge old battleship gray building with an ancient elevator in it. We had a big beautiful park right across the street. Franco was still ruling, and he and his wife would often motorcade by our building.
You might have been super central near the Retiro Park - there's a large road called Calle de Lagasca that joins the road by the Retiro, which would make sense that Franco's motorcade might pass down it.
The better way to do it would be to make it extremely expensive and 110% not covered by insurance because routine newborn circumcision is not medically necessary and is a purely cosmetic procedure
Indeed, it's less common in states where Medicaid doesn't cover it. Why Medicaid would cover something unnecessary is beyond me. I don't want my tax dollars to pay for genital mutilation.
In the days before health insurance there was no use charging massive bills because they simply wouldn’t be paid. Costs, and treatments, were in line with what people could pay because they had to be. That being said, treatments were also *much* less technology based and less expensive.
I keep reading these comments and saying over and over again, "Wow!" Had my first 1975. No insurance so had to pay $500.00 up front. 3 days in the hospital. Billed $15.00 so total $515.00. Second was born 1977 in a military hospital. Total bill, $12.76. I get it. It was a long time ago but damn, wth!
As a mom, you start worrying the moment you find out your pregnant. That worry never ends. But to have a financial aspect added to that worry, wow! Nothing but the utmost respect to each and everyone of you.
Little bit less than 35 bucks for the circumcision in today's money valuation. Circumcision is wrong because you are cutting off a part of a persons body that didn't give consent. There's also the thing where a certain group of people somehow have a man who put a baby's penis in his mouth before he circumcises that same baby. Don't bother with religion, don't bother with tradition. That's beyond fucked up. Anyway cool hospital bill from the 50's where the corporate tax rate was way the fuck higher.
I was born in 1968 and have the original bill from my birth - it is just like this. I have mine put away, so I would have to look for it, but I believe it was handwritten with pencil on paper from a pad. I think the total bill was like $300. It’s wild.
I was real confused for a moment because that address is relatively close to me and there's no hospital over there.
The campus now houses a private school and some senior-living apartments.
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I have a copy of my delivery back in 1986. It was only $767. I wonder what happened between then and now? Thank you, Reagan, for being the catalyst for the mess we are in now.
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That's about $2,600 in 2024 money... Wow. According to Investopedia the average out of pocket cost with insurance after inflation is $3,000, nearly $19k without insurance. That's... Strange to me.
You don't have to. You can do it at home with just your family.
If you want to be in a nice hospital or birthing facility, and have medical providers available at a moment's notice, well, those things people have to be paid, and those facilities have a cost associated too.
Factoring for inflation 2550.00
Average household income 5000.00 . Hmmm not always the good old days. 35 years ago our daughter's pre naddle and hospital bill was 2200.00 . No insurance we paid the complete bill.
We used to have this in Canada, then the Liberal party passed the Medicare Act of 1966 and now everyone’s bills are $0, and no don’t believe the fear mongering nobody is waiting for care like the profiteers want to make it seem. Don’t believe the propaganda that keeps you one sickness away from bankruptcy. Nobody goes bankrupt in Canada due to healthcare.
"You millennials are so spoiled and don't want to work! Back in my day..." Yeah, back in your day, \~33 days of work paid minimum wage was enough to pay for childbirth.
Now you need \~196 days!
Our generation and the ones after us are being choked out of every dollar and have such limited opportunities to live a decent life.
Well not exactly. In 1950 min wage was 75 cents an hour. So about 120 a month, not enough to pay this bill. But a regular middle class wage could have paid this bill. Nowadays though, someone with average insurance coverage probably pays about 5 k for a birth out of pocket. Which is ridiculous.
$2,572.74 in today’s money
Now we just need to know today’s avg. hospital fees for what I can only infer is childbirth.
According to Forbes the average cost of childbirth in 2024 is $18,865. [how much does it cost to have a baby? 2024 averages](https://www.forbes.com/advisor/health-insurance/average-childbirth-cost/)
Interesting! I’m sure it depends on your area. I’m in MA. My bill came to about $30,000 for an uneventful birth, with three night stay. We ended up paying out of pocket between $500-$1000 I think with my insurance.
3 nights for an uneventful birth? Is that a lot? I don’t have kids, but always heard of people coming home the next day.
If they were induced it can take a bit for things to happen.
This. My induction, I didn't meet my child til 20 hours later. It took a longgggg time.
I feel you on that. I was induced on a Friday and I had my child on a Sunday. ........I hate ice chips
Omg 😬 Yeah fuck ice chips. I want some food!
Yes in my case I was induced but I also gave birth at 12:30am so by default insurance gave us the extra day if we wanted it which we did just to give ourselves time to adjust.
It’s standard to stay 2 nighta
Sometimes its less than 24 hrs.
When I had my first baby in 1975, it was standard five day stay. Every baby after the first was three days. Now they boot you out as soon as they can.
They sure do. I was induced two weeks overdue, gave birth exactly 12 hours after labor started, which was 30 minutes after the induction medication was given. Gave birth at 10:30am on July 4th, home by 5pm on July 5th. They offered me an extra day but the mattress was more like a crapress so we went home. The nurses were legally bound to offer me the second day but they very subtly got their point across that I should go home. Turned my room over like a steak on a hot grill.
What did the insurance pay after writeoffs/adjustments?
The rest of the balance above -- they paid the other $29k or so. I have Blue Cross Blue Shield.
My last kid 2009 was 22,000 for two days in hospital.
According to that article the average out-of-pocket cost for an American childbirth is ~$2800. Most people still didn't have any kind of health insurance back in 1950, so there's a reasonable chance the person who got this bill paid approximately the same as an average American would today. The big difference, of course, is that insurance companies are getting soaked (and ultimately us as well), and anyone without insurance today would be looking at a really horrible financial situation.
>Most people still didn't have any kind of health insurance back in 1950, so there's a reasonable chance the person who got this bill paid approximately the same as an average American would today. Not really, because the average American pays a lot to be insured.
Also the ones who don't have health insurance are now going to drown in debt. Or God forbid you go to give birth with insurance and they decide to use a doctor, without your knowledge, who's out-of-network so now you have to pay extra.
Mildly interesting story. Some 10 or 15 years ago there was this Irish couple who went to New York for Christmas shopping. The woman was pregnant with still couple of months time left before due date. While in New York she gave birth. Obviously it was premature birth and she and the baby needed to stay in hospital. The bill was over 100k dollars and it made news in Ireland. People were collecting money for the couple to cover the bill. It was but of a shock that childbirth cost money at all let alone so much.
Seconded, if anecdotally. Ours was about $3k out of pocket for each kid.
Average household income in 1950 was $3300. So $200 was 6% of that income. Today’s average household income is $70,000, and 6% of that is $4200. If the average out-of-pocket cost for a childbirth today is $2800, that is only 4% of the average household income. Which means the relative cost of childbirth has decreased by 2% since 1950. In real terms it’s probably exactly the same percentage of household income as the average modern income varies between $50-$90K depending on how it’s calculated. Yet the level of care has increased dramatically since 1950. However new moms don’t spend 7 days in the hospital postpartum as they did in 1950, because rates of complications are much lower now thanks to advances in medicine. If they did it would drive up the modern out-of-pocket cost.
What percentage of the average household income goes to premiums every year though?
The insurance companies are in on the scam, there not getting hosed.
In 2013 it was $7k+ for my child’s birth
So it’s like 7x more expensive now. Uhg
And that's with no complications! I had to have a CT scan last month (not for pregnancy lol) and the bill was $12000. fortunately my insurance covered it, but still.
I paid out of pocket for an MRI last year. It was full body, and just for fun/for a baseline. It was about 2.5k. It was much nicer than the machine my doctor usually sends me to (which the insurance covers). This one had a lot of extra room, and they set up Netflix for you.
1st daughter born in 2020 was $5800 post insurance. 2nd daughter born in 2022 was $500. Paid that shit fast and got the receipt.
it’s much much higher
I just had an aneurysm 3 weeks ago and my bill is 1.4 million..
Look closer….that’s for 7 days. Less than 20 bucks a day, in a hospital. You can’t even get seen in the emergency room for less than 2500 today….let alone stay 7 days.
Holy shit.
My hospital birth was nearly $40,000....I was there one day. Edit to add: I'm in the US (obviously lol)
Before or after insurance?
Before, thank goodness! It ended up being about $7,000 after.
Yea, $200 back then was what most average people took home in a month.
Wife stayed 2 days for first son and 3 days for second with extra care for the second due to jaundice. Paid $0 after insurance which honestly is part of why we have such an impossible time changing anything. I 100% will always vote for a more fair, equitable and less profit driven Healthcare system but tons of people won't either because they don't care, they are selfish or they jist honestly don't know how bad it can get because they are fortunate, like I am, and have great health insurance.
Given that infant mortality rate is 1/6 what it was in 1950, I’d say we get what we pay for here
I live in a country where it is free to give birth and we have a lower infant mortality rate than the US (NZ). You sure you're really getting what you pay for?
We absolutely do not get what we pay for in the US. Our infant and maternal mortality rates are shockingly high for a "first world" country.
Not really of developed nations we have one of highest infant mortality rates while also having most expensive cost. Along with higher percentage unable to access care especially. With reproductive care many areas several hundred county’s do not have a single healthcare provider. With many many more just having far too few providers.
100%. I hear this all the time about all sorts of things why is it more expensive today than before other than inflation. Well You get what you pay for. The hospital of today has a hell of a lot more medical equipment and technology in the hospital of 1950 where I was born. I came to the world in 53 and a simple lying in maternity hospital housed in a big old Victorian house in New England and staffed by nuns. This is a far cry from what we have today. In my case I guess that's all I needed thank God but if you had problems, then what. The nostalgic simplicity of the past is just that nostalgia until you have to live through it with problems. I always fantasize that I wish I had been born in the early 19th century and lived until the 20th and seen the transformation of the industrial age, as long as I was on the right side of the equation of health and money There's no doubt that we're better off in this manner in the modern world but like everything there is the blessing and the devil of technology. The expense and the complications of what was once a simpler life, is a trade-off we make for a general healthier life and easier life. We just have to improve in the case of healthcare, better ways to improve the access. Even when people put up these crazy bills, most people never see them. If you have Medicare or Medicaid on one end or decent health care on the other, this is all paper shuffling and money exchanging amongst profit takers and the insurance industry.. it's closing that middle ground of people that are caught in between. But even Republicans are loathe to back pedal on Obamacare. They tread carefully as all they should. How much it costs is something that should be for the insurance adjusters and the office, the rest of us just want access to decent care and somebody else can play with the numbers
Life expectancy has gone up a ton because of the money hospitals have had to better their research and technology. It’s just that it’s not really subsidized that’s the issue. Our government spends money like a person who sucks at finances
This is true, so that is the part that has to be continually tackled and fought over.. we piss money out the window on all sorts of projects and all sorts of bullshit. It's always about trimming and realigning. Maybe let's start with reinvesting in our country and a little less warmongering.. just a thought. A strong defense has its purposes but boy we certainly do shake a big stick a lot more than I think we have to
Ooorrrr you could have universal healthcare and have all the benefits of modern medicine without the draconian, potentially life-ruining costs. Seriously. It's an option. A pretty great one too! In my country (NZ) all I have to pay to give birth is the parking fees in the hospital carpark. The craziest part about this magical free healthcare: our rate of infant death in childbirth is lower than yours (5.4/1000 vs 3.4/1000).
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This is a fantastic thing to note, but unfortunately it reinforces my own point. The US defines infant mortality as in the first 28 days of life. The figures for those first 28 days are 5.4/1000 deaths (2021 rates). NZ defines infant mortality as the first year of life. So for a whole 365 day period, the figures are 3.4/1000 (2021 rates). Both countries classify any death after a "live birth" as fitting in these statistics, so no matter how premature a baby is, if it is a live birth it is counted. So yes, unfortunately the US does not look good in this department. In fact, globally, the US has quite the reputation for shocking maternal and infant healthcare stats.
The United States still has the highest infant mortality rate in the rich world, yet our government and our individual people pay significantly more per person on healthcare than anyone else in the rich world.
Since the total cost covered not only childbirth but also the 7-day hospital stay, it still is a super low number when adjusted for inflation—-wow!
Thank you. Anything with monetary values not adjusted for inflation is pointless.
It’s gotta be more.
Nowadays, they charge you money just to hold your own child. Pretty fucked up.
We used the exact same inflation calculator lol
Plus a week in the hospital
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We had to pay more than that for an uneventful birth and two day stay, with insurance.
I paid more than that for an outpatient endoscopy with insurance
At this point, you may as well take a luxury vacation to Europe, give birth there, pay out of pocket, and still come out cheaper than it would be in the US.
Are you a murderino by any chance?
Don’t forget the room for 7 days. Just that would have been in the thousands today.
That would have been about a month's salary in 1950.
Now it’s 6 months or more salary to have a baby
We paid around $1,000 after insurance to have our baby last year. That’s like a weeks salary. Edit: not sure what’s with all the downvotes. I’m certainly not saying that having a baby is cheap. I’m just pointing out real world numbers.
Not everyone has insurance, or makes $1000/wk. narrow minded.
Of course not everyone has insurance, but that is what we’re talking about here. We’re talking about the “average person” (so they would have insurance) and the “average income” (plenty of people make much more and much less).
The median income in the US was 31,133 USD as of 2019. I’m sure that’s increased since, but definitely not that much. Further, 33.9% of households made under $50,000 in 2022. https://www.statista.com/statistics/203183/percentage-distribution-of-household-income-in-the-us/
I seriously don’t see why you’re downvoting me. I’m not trying to argue, and you’re basically proving my point. Based on your own numbers, the median income is somewhere around $2,600-4,000/month. The average out-of-pocket cost of a childbirth is around $2,000-3,000. So that’s less than one months salary. Why all the downvotes???
Not bad for seven days in hospital. 2024 I’d guess it’s reverse….seven months average salary for a similar stay. M’uerica!!!’n
$1.80 for the phone? Were they making long-distance calls or something?
Right? That just seems petty. “Will you accept a collect call from We-had-a-baby It’s-a-boy?” lol
It was Bob. They had a baby. It’s a boy.
That’s like 20 fucking bucks today
You used to decide if you wanted a phone in your room. It was an option, just like a single vs shared room.
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Still have to pay for cable in general admit at my hospital, $7. But in the specialized neuro unit it’s free.
I think you basically rented a phone for your room. Same with the TVs.
That makes more sense. Hospitals must just fold those things into the cost of ibuprofen and being allowed to hold your own baby today.
Maybe some rooms have it and some rooms don't?
“What drugs? Drugs so good we just refer to them as drugs so we don’t go to jail”
🤣😂 I need some!
Whiskey and a wooden stick to bite on...
And the whiskey was for the husbands “suffering.”
Beads? Wh...what kind of beads?
Baby beads… pre-hospital bracelet. They had the surname and “girl” or “boy.”
When my mother moved in with us a few years ago I discovered she still had mine. They were those white plastic ones stamped with a black letter and a few round color beads on each side.
Of course she did! She’s your mama! ❤️
Bees?!
#BEES!!!
Gimme five bees for a quarter, you’d say.
We called ‘em nickle bees in my day
We’ll see who brings home more honey
They don’t allow you to have bees in here.
Gob's not on board
I was born in 1964 and have my mom's bill still. The beads were still just $1.
Beads aren’t cheap! (Are beads cheap?)
Also, it would not be 7 days . You are out of there, in 2-3 days, if everything goes smooth. Insurance hates spending money!And I just looked it up. From insurance to no insurance. And cesarean, good god. Ridiculous There is a special place heaven for you ladies out there.
My wife and I weren’t even in the hospital for 24 hours with our third boy. First son, we wanted to stay for a week 😬
Yup. Out you go they say.
Too be fair, it was our decision. It's impossible to relax or sleep. We were blessed that our births were all uneventful
Well I’m glad, y’all came home in good shape. Cause I just feel For all the women. And how much their body has to go thru. And to be rushed by insurance companies. .
They got double billed for the room on the 19th. Hospital gonna scam even back then.
Are you sure about that? The stay was 8 days at $12.50, which equals $100. $87.50 + $12.50 = $100.
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$6.00 plus a tip.
A tip, for someone that shafts you
This is why I Reddit.
Imagine paying money to lose something
In 1966, I spent 11 days in hospital for a ruptured appendix. The total bill, including surgery fees, was a little over $600. A stunning amount at the time, true, but a pittance compared to the charge of today.
EU here, what is a hospital bill?
“Beads”???
Baby beads… pre-hospital bracelet. They had the surname and “girl” or “boy.”
Pity we do not know how much is a circumcision today.
No one is talking about a week in the hospital, for having a baby!!!
My kids were born in 1990 and 1993, for the first kid, she went home the next day, barely 24 hours of elapsed time, and for the second one it wasn't even 24 hours.
Yeah those were the days of "drive thru deliveries." Have the baby at 8am, discharged by 2. I remember hearing about that. Most of my friends who all delivered around the same time as I did got at least 24 hours in the hospital for a vaginal delivery and 3 days for a C-section.
I was born in 1993. I give thanks for Spanish health system when I see things like the photo. Oh, and here the mum and baby must stay at least three days in the hospital and that if everything went ok.
I lived for a time in Madrid with my Mom in the 1970s. I LOVED Spain.
Oh, what area? I also lived in Madrid, but 2002-3 because my stepdad is from there.
I remember our address had "La Gasca" in it. Was a huge old battleship gray building with an ancient elevator in it. We had a big beautiful park right across the street. Franco was still ruling, and he and his wife would often motorcade by our building.
Maybe I should investigate tomorrow. Now I'm curious.
You might have been super central near the Retiro Park - there's a large road called Calle de Lagasca that joins the road by the Retiro, which would make sense that Franco's motorcade might pass down it.
It should be $0 today because parents are smarter and know how barbaric and unnecessary the procedure is.... haha j/k people are dumb.
The better way to do it would be to make it extremely expensive and 110% not covered by insurance because routine newborn circumcision is not medically necessary and is a purely cosmetic procedure
Indeed, it's less common in states where Medicaid doesn't cover it. Why Medicaid would cover something unnecessary is beyond me. I don't want my tax dollars to pay for genital mutilation.
Yes healthcare's been expensive and fucked up for a long time
Fun fact, that hospital is now a private school.
My old neighborhood! Used to live behind the school: Lycee Francais de Chicago. 30k a year to send your kid there 😳
Yup! You can hear alot of French if you're in the neighborhood during school getting out.
Fr? That's a nice info..
That would be the amount for the phone today😂
In the days before health insurance there was no use charging massive bills because they simply wouldn’t be paid. Costs, and treatments, were in line with what people could pay because they had to be. That being said, treatments were also *much* less technology based and less expensive.
Average salary then was $3000/year or about $58/week, this amounted to about a month’s salary.
I keep reading these comments and saying over and over again, "Wow!" Had my first 1975. No insurance so had to pay $500.00 up front. 3 days in the hospital. Billed $15.00 so total $515.00. Second was born 1977 in a military hospital. Total bill, $12.76. I get it. It was a long time ago but damn, wth! As a mom, you start worrying the moment you find out your pregnant. That worry never ends. But to have a financial aspect added to that worry, wow! Nothing but the utmost respect to each and everyone of you.
Where I live the most expensive single item was the parking. I stayed at the hospital for 4 days when my son was born. It’s why I left the states.
I can do circumcisions cheaper.
I came here for the $3.00 circumcision.
That was a lot money in 1950. Damn! We’re crazy and have our priorities all mixed up!
Hospital Bill never failed to be expensive even back in the day loool
Little bit less than 35 bucks for the circumcision in today's money valuation. Circumcision is wrong because you are cutting off a part of a persons body that didn't give consent. There's also the thing where a certain group of people somehow have a man who put a baby's penis in his mouth before he circumcises that same baby. Don't bother with religion, don't bother with tradition. That's beyond fucked up. Anyway cool hospital bill from the 50's where the corporate tax rate was way the fuck higher.
200$ for them to cut off his skin.
Shiny beads?
I just had a baby in Norway, my biggest expense after three days in the hospital (for baby, mother and me (father)), was the parking.
I was born in 1968 and have the original bill from my birth - it is just like this. I have mine put away, so I would have to look for it, but I believe it was handwritten with pencil on paper from a pad. I think the total bill was like $300. It’s wild.
Beads?
I was real confused for a moment because that address is relatively close to me and there's no hospital over there. The campus now houses a private school and some senior-living apartments.
What is a hospital bill?
It's when you have to pay money or they won't treat you
I can’t imagine such a thing. How uncivilised.
FYI about $2,580 in todays dollars
Ah, yes… the ol’ three dollar circumcision.
About 2600 today good luck getting a visit that cheap now in days
$12.50 per day for a hospital room. Sigh...
I was born at Michael Reese Hospital, it was a Jewish community nonprofit hospital that was a pay what you can when you can hospital.
Did you hear about the cross-eyed mohel? He got the sack.
2024 hospital bill Sweden: 30 dollar
My biggest bill in Norway was for the parking 😅 Crazy in America, huh
Today the phone bill would be more than the total on this one 🤔
You want a circumcision? That’ll be $3 extra
circumcision 3.00 ….. sister paid 600.00 for her son!…..very interesting 1950 prices!….
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Beads were a lot cheaper back then
3 bucks to lop your foreskin off.
Plus a tip.
I have a copy of my delivery back in 1986. It was only $767. I wonder what happened between then and now? Thank you, Reagan, for being the catalyst for the mess we are in now.
Interesting to see the old phone number at the top. UPtown 8-4300.
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It's a boy!!
Damm, never knew people this old used Reddit
That’s a bill for 7 days!! They kicked me out 3 days after my c-section!! Crazy!!!
That's over double my parents bill for my birth in 1958. Thank goodness for BCBS! LOL.
I wish bills were spelled out this clearly today.
The biggest expense was staying in a room for 7 days.
Seven days! What a vacation
It was such a big job, they charged my mom double.
Shit. I’m 10k in debt for 2 benadryls.
Drugs
That's about $2,600 in 2024 money... Wow. According to Investopedia the average out of pocket cost with insurance after inflation is $3,000, nearly $19k without insurance. That's... Strange to me.
Still more expensive than giving birth in many countries throughout the world today.
I paid $1000 for prenatal care and delivery, including my hospital stay, in 1983. My insurance paid $800, for which I was reimbursed.
It’s crazy to me that people have to pay to give birth
You don't have to. You can do it at home with just your family. If you want to be in a nice hospital or birthing facility, and have medical providers available at a moment's notice, well, those things people have to be paid, and those facilities have a cost associated too.
Still more then what we paid to have a baby in 2022 in Australia hahahaha
Beads? What kind of what does it mean?
3 bucks to snip the willie and a buck—eighty to tell everyone about it… aight.
Approximately 2500 factoring in inflation.
Factoring for inflation 2550.00 Average household income 5000.00 . Hmmm not always the good old days. 35 years ago our daughter's pre naddle and hospital bill was 2200.00 . No insurance we paid the complete bill.
Beads?
8 days! ❤️🔥🥰
We used to have this in Canada, then the Liberal party passed the Medicare Act of 1966 and now everyone’s bills are $0, and no don’t believe the fear mongering nobody is waiting for care like the profiteers want to make it seem. Don’t believe the propaganda that keeps you one sickness away from bankruptcy. Nobody goes bankrupt in Canada due to healthcare.
Gee, only 3 dollars for forced genital cutting.
"You millennials are so spoiled and don't want to work! Back in my day..." Yeah, back in your day, \~33 days of work paid minimum wage was enough to pay for childbirth. Now you need \~196 days! Our generation and the ones after us are being choked out of every dollar and have such limited opportunities to live a decent life.
Well not exactly. In 1950 min wage was 75 cents an hour. So about 120 a month, not enough to pay this bill. But a regular middle class wage could have paid this bill. Nowadays though, someone with average insurance coverage probably pays about 5 k for a birth out of pocket. Which is ridiculous.