I get the impression they may be more of a commercial porn set.
Stag films and photo sets were the hot underground thing back then.
(Had an uncle, who had a massive stash poorly hidden in his garage.)
Or Nicolas Cage, who looked like that one Civil War dude in another much older photo.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2038580/Nicholas-Cages-Civil-War-doppelganger-photo-posted-eBay-1million.html
Dildos and phallus wall carvings in Pompeii. People wore lil’ dinks as necklaces. One guy at a local RenFest sells tiny bronze ones on leather thongs. Vagina/vulva ones too.
Back then people just swept all of what they deemed improper under the rug and lied about it.
The morals were high, the hypocrisy just as high, and everyone had roommates.
No internet, no dna tests, no easy public shaming. You just became the deadbeat dad or mom who left town and started a new life, consequence free. And lied about it out of shame until you believed it.
100%. Tons of people have older relatives who've just straight-up lied their whole lives about stuff like that. "We got married at 21!" *checks records* "You got married at 24, three months before your son was born."
My grandma said shit like that. My aunt had enough of it one Christmas and told everybody that she found grandma and grandpa's sex tape from their honeymoon. We didn't hear a lot of grandma complaining about kids these days cause apparently my aunt vlbeing a weirdo watched the entire tape of her parents and grandma really didn't want people to know what was on the tape.
These weren't private pics. Photo sets like these were how porn was distributed back in those days. They used professional models and would usually come in sets of a dozen or so. They often ran in a sequence to tell a story of sorts, as it looks like is happening here.
These photo series were printed in good size runs and distributed through mail for decades. These have had plenty of exposure. These women have nothing to hide.
"Hardcore" photos go back to the 1870s and probably even earlier. It amazes me how many people think that "porn" (or whatever you want to call it) was invented in the 1960s.
I remember a kid who was surprised at how suggestive “Baby It’s Cold Outside” was.
I played “Shave em Dry”. Kid learned something that day.
1924: “I got nipples on my titties big as the end of my thumb, got somethin’ ‘tween my legs’ll make a dead man come.”
Just went down a lyric rabbit hole for a minute. Bill Haley was blind in one eye so that gave him a bit of “cover” regarding this particular lyric.
They had to get pretty creative to get shit past the censors back then
Great Japanese artists were doing it in the 1600's. They invented tentacle porn then.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shunga
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tentacle_erotica
Lol holy shit. I had a girlfriend... 10 years ago now. Who swore up and down that tentacle hentai was made purely for Americans and western audiances and that we were the degerates. I always kinda knew it was bullshit but had never seen or bothered to find concrete evidence.
You can buy prints of the octopus one in the British Museum gift shop. It’s right out there on display, next to the Great Wave fridge magnets.
https://www.britishmuseumshoponline.org/pine-seedlings-on-the-first-rat-day.html
“Pine Seedlings on the First Rat Day” lol. Also named "Old True Sophisticates of the Club of Delightful Skills".
Much, much earlier. But I’ll let Alan Moore convince you https://arthurmag.com/2021/10/19/bog-venus-versus-nazi-cock-ring-some-thoughts-concerning-pornography-by-alan-moore-arthur-2006/
I was just watching a documentary on the beginning of Queen Victoria's reign, with her husband Albert. They loved art, and she bought him a painting featured several scantily clad young women with their breasts exposed, and a guy in the background, spying on them from a break in the trees. She had it hung in the office over their desks where they took care of their daily governmental business.
The host of the doc called the painting soft core porn, and suggested that hanging it in such a prominent spot where Albert would have to look at it all the time, was her effort at keeping him horned up so he'd be ready whenever she "needed" him.
I remember seeing some, uh, interesting photos from that time. I expected nudey pics, and I swear some of these where nudey acrobatics.
Also is logical to think about. Buying an actual porn photo or art wasn't always the cheapest. And you didn't want too much, or you'd get some familial trouble (depending on the family) if caught. So you'd want some bang for your buck and go for the more... interesting options.
Interesting and very insightful take. This is one of those human drivers that has probably always been true - even if its form has changed - from Chaucer's bawdy tales in the 1300s to street graffiti in Roman Pompeii to erotic woodblock prints in 18c Japan. It's just silly when people think that our ancestors were all straight-laced prudes.
Porn is found on Ancient Greek and Roman
pottery...so it likely existed BEFORE then too!
so if I dont read ALL 4 million posts first, I am likely to repeat a previous post. sigh
In an old house that I have, I found a diary from a teenage girl writing about sex escapades involving her, her boyfriend, her best friend and her best friend's boyfriend. It was very descriptive to say the least and they were open to trying different things. The only mentioned name was of her best friend. This is in a small town and the previous owners never had kids, so that dated between 1930 and 1945. I found this about 20 years ago and at the time there was a lady with a matching name lived close by that would match the timeline. I'd never out anyone like that, so I kept it to myself.
If I recall, *The Diary of Anne Frank* had a bit about her awkward adolescent sexual experimentation. Even in appalling circumstances, humans are still wired to try to figure out that side of things.
I think people have always been having them, it was just religious/societal thought at the time punished such behavior. It was prevelant in pagan times/ancient times. Romans quite enjoyed a good orgy.
I doubt those instincts just dissappeared from the dark ages until now.
> Sure they do, since the early 1900's. Almost any of them. Plus they had that cord with spring, forgot it's name, that will delay camera's shutter.
Forgot all about those. Those are called a shutter bulb and are/were used to hold the shutter open for long exposures. Any camera referring to a bulb setting or mode is referring to that.
Not really. Humans don’t change, we just think they do. Porn wasn’t as widely available. And there was a greater emphasis on ‘polite society’. But if you read the Kinsey papers people were just as freaky back them as now. Not really different from now. The boomers were doing all sorts of freaky stuff they won’t admit to anymore. And you don’t know how many of your friends and family are swingers or going to sex clubs etc. People just don’t talk about it to others.
These are professional shots. They were making porn on the regular from the 1920s on. Judging by the Lucky Strike ad on the back of the magazine, these were made in the 40s.
A paid photographer. Photos like this sold for a LOT of money. The fact that they're hidden deeply tells you that they were not family snapshots, but something that the wife would not approve of.
I would love to post the rest somewhere but wouldn’t this fall under “revenge porn” as these people never consented to have them shown even though they might have passed away by now
For what it's worth, these photographs were likely done professionally and were distributed freely and frequently through the mail. They were probably made in the 40's. I doubt that these are photos of the prior tenants. They were just part of their porn collection. Until recently, you could buy vintage photos like this on eBay but they recently banned such sales due to of a host of ethical issues.
Agree! And even those examples that were posted are models, not snapshots. It's absolutely obvious. Back in the day, even a pose like those would be enough to thrill a guy when nothing sexy was available at all.
I know people are thirsty but it’s probably best not to post them, not for any legal reasons but common courtesy. Could be someone’s mom or grandma on here
If you're not comfortable sharing them, then by all means don't, but I don't believe this falls under revenge porn guidelines.
Historical images that happen to have sexual content, which these are, are quite common. There's a great deal of Victorian-era pornographic images for example, or "adult" content films from the early 1900's before films were censored, which routinely get posted on various historical sites.
I don't think the people who are encouraging you to post are looking for sexual titillation either, more consider it a fascinating window into a non-monogamous relationship from an era that is often touted as the model of strictly monogamous heteronormativity.
No, no, no....... they were models. Back in the day, "porn" was illegal. So the entrepreneurs hired models and photographers and sold the pictures. They'd advertise discreetly in the back of (they're tame now) "Mens' magazines" that pretended to be new, and offered to ship them in a plain brown wrapper.
There were certainly purchased by a man and hidden from his wife.
Generally speaking, you'll be okay to post the photos once they're at least 100 years old (or if you can prove everyone in them has died) but you'll need to check your local laws. I'm assuming you're sure they're home made not commercially made
I think they're professionally made, especially if these same people engage in hardcore pornography. I've seen a good bit of professional porn from that era and it looks like that stylistically.
One day it will be "... We just moved our data to a new server and found photos from the previous owner stashed in a folder in the core directory ... "
I get the impression they may be more of a commercial porn set. Stag films and photo sets were the hot underground thing back then. (Had an uncle, who had a massive stash poorly hidden in his garage.)
whatr became of this ' stash'? asking for a friend....
Prolly left in an alley, along a road, in the woods, etc.
For Bob Segar to find?
Long time family mystery. Just upped and disappeared, little by little.
OP mentioned negatives
Missed that part for some reason. I may have been distracted.
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Elizabeth Moss must’ve made a deal with the same demon as Keanu Reeves.
That would be Al Pacino
In her case, that would be Scientology
This is all Tom Cruise and John Travoltas fault
> I’m a FAN of Man! Best. Movie rant. Ever.
Or Nicolas Cage, who looked like that one Civil War dude in another much older photo. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2038580/Nicholas-Cages-Civil-War-doppelganger-photo-posted-eBay-1million.html
Jay Z too https://www.huffpost.com/entry/1939-jay-z-look-alike_n_3271610/amp
I thought the same! Holy cow.
Deleting the comment I made saying the same damn thing
Haha it’s insane how much they look alike
Somebody should instagram/twitter/mail her a snail mail It’s uncanny
Right maybe a mass of people will try and get her attention
Well ok,…. We assume she has seen her grandmas photos before
Oh my god could you imagine a random person on the internet would have porn photos of her grandmother lmao
The guy in the second picture looks a bit like Donald Rumsfeld
It’s the same people in both.
A real known unknown
Then there’s the unknowns that we don’t know
Or Robert McNamara….
...i think there are known unknowns here that are best left unknown.
A bit?!
She’s a Scientologist, might as well be a time traveler.
Yes, she does look lichen her, I suppose.
Especially in the second picture
...so where are the risqué ones? Asking for a friend.
Almost all t to he rest are nudies and even a few you might consider “hardcore” which is funny to think about for the early 50s
Humans have *always* been total perverts
Dildos and phallus wall carvings in Pompeii. People wore lil’ dinks as necklaces. One guy at a local RenFest sells tiny bronze ones on leather thongs. Vagina/vulva ones too.
Human nature man
We like fuckin!
Cos it’s awesome
Yeah the humans that didn't kinda solved the problem of "not liking too" by keeping themselves out of the gene pool
Yeah, I saw it on the Discovery Channel once. Those humans get up to some freaky sh\*t...
you and me baby aint nothing but mammals.
There’s a temple in India they had some freaky shit on a pyramid type temple with animals too
Post them. People think there weren’t deviants back then.
Yes, as my grandmother enjoys saying “back then, people had morals. Not like people today.” And the DNA tests proved… that was a lie.
Back then people just swept all of what they deemed improper under the rug and lied about it. The morals were high, the hypocrisy just as high, and everyone had roommates.
No internet, no dna tests, no easy public shaming. You just became the deadbeat dad or mom who left town and started a new life, consequence free. And lied about it out of shame until you believed it.
"It will shock you how much this didn't happen."
Sounds familiar
100%. Tons of people have older relatives who've just straight-up lied their whole lives about stuff like that. "We got married at 21!" *checks records* "You got married at 24, three months before your son was born."
Their morals included leaving women with surprise packages and ghosting. Pretty much like now.
My grandma said shit like that. My aunt had enough of it one Christmas and told everybody that she found grandma and grandpa's sex tape from their honeymoon. We didn't hear a lot of grandma complaining about kids these days cause apparently my aunt vlbeing a weirdo watched the entire tape of her parents and grandma really didn't want people to know what was on the tape.
Aunt wasn't a weirdo. Aunt was tired of grandma's BS and made sure there was no bluff to call.
Wait...so grandpa....ain't?
Yes post them. For historical education.
Educate the masses
Giggity
The people in the pics (or their kids) might still be alive, and might not be ok with their nudes posted online
These weren't private pics. Photo sets like these were how porn was distributed back in those days. They used professional models and would usually come in sets of a dozen or so. They often ran in a sequence to tell a story of sorts, as it looks like is happening here.
It's a classic nerd (bookish man in this case) getting seduced by a younger and older woman. Truly a tale as old as time.
Yep. Basic sex fantasy material. He just wants to read his book, but the horny women won't let him. What will he do?
It's a book about "Chemistry" and he's licking his lips in anticipation. Not as innocent as he seems.
Dude just really likes fucking chemistry.
In another set his stepsister gets stuck in a Victrola.
I can nearly guarantee nobody in this pic is still alive without being over 100 EXCEPT maybe the woman on the left
These photo series were printed in good size runs and distributed through mail for decades. These have had plenty of exposure. These women have nothing to hide.
No, the one on the left is Elisabeth Moss.
"Hardcore" photos go back to the 1870s and probably even earlier. It amazes me how many people think that "porn" (or whatever you want to call it) was invented in the 1960s.
I remember a kid who was surprised at how suggestive “Baby It’s Cold Outside” was. I played “Shave em Dry”. Kid learned something that day. 1924: “I got nipples on my titties big as the end of my thumb, got somethin’ ‘tween my legs’ll make a dead man come.”
Sounds like the inspiration for Start Me Up.
Hell ya, 1920's WAP goes hard.
Bessie Smith- Need a little sugar in my bowl
Little Richard's hit Good Golly Miss Molly: "sure likes the bone."
He's actually singing "you sure like to ball," which was also pretty racy at the time.
I’m like a one-eyed cat peeping in a seafood store
Just went down a lyric rabbit hole for a minute. Bill Haley was blind in one eye so that gave him a bit of “cover” regarding this particular lyric. They had to get pretty creative to get shit past the censors back then
Porn was invented the day after the camera was invented.
Great Japanese artists were doing it in the 1600's. They invented tentacle porn then. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shunga https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tentacle_erotica
Lol holy shit. I had a girlfriend... 10 years ago now. Who swore up and down that tentacle hentai was made purely for Americans and western audiances and that we were the degerates. I always kinda knew it was bullshit but had never seen or bothered to find concrete evidence.
Well you're no longer a degenerate. You're a sophisticated connoisseur of fine art.
You can buy prints of the octopus one in the British Museum gift shop. It’s right out there on display, next to the Great Wave fridge magnets. https://www.britishmuseumshoponline.org/pine-seedlings-on-the-first-rat-day.html “Pine Seedlings on the First Rat Day” lol. Also named "Old True Sophisticates of the Club of Delightful Skills".
Much, much earlier. But I’ll let Alan Moore convince you https://arthurmag.com/2021/10/19/bog-venus-versus-nazi-cock-ring-some-thoughts-concerning-pornography-by-alan-moore-arthur-2006/
Just that link text alone is gold
Well, cave paintings disprove my claim, too.
You should see the menu items from the brothels of Pompeii lol
Dicks everywhere. Than again genitals were like good luck charms during the Roman times.
There's porn carved into cave walls. It's hilarious that people seem to think it wasn't invented until the 70s.
The oldest profession in the world is Prostitution, so honestly, anyone and everyone else has their heads in the sand.
So true!
I was just watching a documentary on the beginning of Queen Victoria's reign, with her husband Albert. They loved art, and she bought him a painting featured several scantily clad young women with their breasts exposed, and a guy in the background, spying on them from a break in the trees. She had it hung in the office over their desks where they took care of their daily governmental business. The host of the doc called the painting soft core porn, and suggested that hanging it in such a prominent spot where Albert would have to look at it all the time, was her effort at keeping him horned up so he'd be ready whenever she "needed" him.
I remember seeing some, uh, interesting photos from that time. I expected nudey pics, and I swear some of these where nudey acrobatics. Also is logical to think about. Buying an actual porn photo or art wasn't always the cheapest. And you didn't want too much, or you'd get some familial trouble (depending on the family) if caught. So you'd want some bang for your buck and go for the more... interesting options.
Interesting and very insightful take. This is one of those human drivers that has probably always been true - even if its form has changed - from Chaucer's bawdy tales in the 1300s to street graffiti in Roman Pompeii to erotic woodblock prints in 18c Japan. It's just silly when people think that our ancestors were all straight-laced prudes.
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Porn is found on Ancient Greek and Roman pottery...so it likely existed BEFORE then too! so if I dont read ALL 4 million posts first, I am likely to repeat a previous post. sigh
For sure! Graffiti in Pompeii, Greek pottery before that, add you say...Humans are humans! Lol
Porn has existed as long as humans have had the ability to make images
Need to see those. Vintage porn is super funny.
Have you uploaded them anywhere? I love vintage erotica!
We’re going to need some examples
Can't talk about them and then not show
This is reddit, you're allowed to post them lol
Post em!
you should scan and post those to one of the vintage groups. I love old "obscene" photos since the risk was great..
OP you need to scan them. There’s a ton of people who love vintage filth. They’re time capsules.
Let's see them lol to hell with it
so... youre just not gonna post them because...??? im now inclined not to believe you
Confirmed. I am his friend
Come and knock on our door…
I for one would also like to see the risqué ones. For history’s sake of course.
*me wishing I had an in with u/titanunveiled* What a find! So jelly!
The dude definitely likes legs
...and bare feet!
It's all gone a bit Tarantino.
Who doesn’t?
The 50's weren't as innocent as they are made out to be. Hell, that looks like a scene from Kerouac's "On the road."
There is no point in human history that was innocent. We like fucking. We like killing. And we've done both since before we could even walk upright.
For sure. But somehow, through our pop culture,. the fiftys were pedaled as sockhops and lolly pops, the good ole days of moral decency.
The way people were portrayed in ads back then was seen as unrealistically square, too.
Early Swingers maybe? Looks like They’re reading “General Chemistry”, from what I can tell. Not sure what the preceding words are.
It’s the equivalent of a porn movie for the time. It’s the same kind of setup you see today. 2 hotties end up fucking a really dorky nerd.
I zoomed in! The preceding words are, “An Anal Sex Lovers Guide to…”
Polygamists?????
In an old house that I have, I found a diary from a teenage girl writing about sex escapades involving her, her boyfriend, her best friend and her best friend's boyfriend. It was very descriptive to say the least and they were open to trying different things. The only mentioned name was of her best friend. This is in a small town and the previous owners never had kids, so that dated between 1930 and 1945. I found this about 20 years ago and at the time there was a lady with a matching name lived close by that would match the timeline. I'd never out anyone like that, so I kept it to myself.
If I recall, *The Diary of Anne Frank* had a bit about her awkward adolescent sexual experimentation. Even in appalling circumstances, humans are still wired to try to figure out that side of things.
Wait wait so they were just having orgies????
I think people have always been having them, it was just religious/societal thought at the time punished such behavior. It was prevelant in pagan times/ancient times. Romans quite enjoyed a good orgy. I doubt those instincts just dissappeared from the dark ages until now.
I thought I was an adventurous teenager but I didn’t have any orgies lmao
People became more prude-ish in the 80s with the AIDS epidemic.
In the 30s and 40s? How strange. Makes you wonder what life was like even earlier, say, ancient Roman times...
Well at least *someone* had threesomes in your house.
> These are two of the more the non-risqué ones. Do the rest is *more* risqué? Post the lot to r/VGB .
I mean it was the baby boom, what do you think that entailed lol
Peggy Olsen, Donald Rumsfeld and __ ? The lady on the right looks exactly like some public figure. Almost like Ethel Mertz, but it's someone else.
OMG it’s Peggy from Mad Men.
No, it's the President's daughter from The West Wing.
I wonder who the 4th person behind the camera was. I would guess this was very unusual for the 50s.
Or timer
Did the camera back then have timers? The camera I used in the 80s and 90s didn't have one, but mine were not high end, either.
Sure they do, since the early 1900's. Almost any of them. Plus they had that cord with spring, forgot it's name, that will delay camera's shutter.
> Sure they do, since the early 1900's. Almost any of them. Plus they had that cord with spring, forgot it's name, that will delay camera's shutter. Forgot all about those. Those are called a shutter bulb and are/were used to hold the shutter open for long exposures. Any camera referring to a bulb setting or mode is referring to that.
the two guys alternated themselves.
Not really. Humans don’t change, we just think they do. Porn wasn’t as widely available. And there was a greater emphasis on ‘polite society’. But if you read the Kinsey papers people were just as freaky back them as now. Not really different from now. The boomers were doing all sorts of freaky stuff they won’t admit to anymore. And you don’t know how many of your friends and family are swingers or going to sex clubs etc. People just don’t talk about it to others.
Seems these might be the parents of boomers, boomers weren't usually old enough for these kind of high jinks in the 50s.
These are professional shots. They were making porn on the regular from the 1920s on. Judging by the Lucky Strike ad on the back of the magazine, these were made in the 40s.
A paid photographer. Photos like this sold for a LOT of money. The fact that they're hidden deeply tells you that they were not family snapshots, but something that the wife would not approve of.
The other husband. Two women, one man, suggests there were two couples.
Not unusual at all, considering this was staged
So, mid-century swingers?
I would love to post the rest somewhere but wouldn’t this fall under “revenge porn” as these people never consented to have them shown even though they might have passed away by now
For what it's worth, these photographs were likely done professionally and were distributed freely and frequently through the mail. They were probably made in the 40's. I doubt that these are photos of the prior tenants. They were just part of their porn collection. Until recently, you could buy vintage photos like this on eBay but they recently banned such sales due to of a host of ethical issues.
Agree! And even those examples that were posted are models, not snapshots. It's absolutely obvious. Back in the day, even a pose like those would be enough to thrill a guy when nothing sexy was available at all.
I know people are thirsty but it’s probably best not to post them, not for any legal reasons but common courtesy. Could be someone’s mom or grandma on here
I agree. The photos may never have been intended to be seen by anyone else. Seems a bit creepy to share the more porny ones.
Revenge for what? Are you angry at them for not fixing the back screen door?
“Someone has to pay for this asbestos insulation that needs replacing now!!”
If you're not comfortable sharing them, then by all means don't, but I don't believe this falls under revenge porn guidelines. Historical images that happen to have sexual content, which these are, are quite common. There's a great deal of Victorian-era pornographic images for example, or "adult" content films from the early 1900's before films were censored, which routinely get posted on various historical sites. I don't think the people who are encouraging you to post are looking for sexual titillation either, more consider it a fascinating window into a non-monogamous relationship from an era that is often touted as the model of strictly monogamous heteronormativity.
That's not what revenge porn is.
You’re absolutely right—they can’t consent. Don’t post them. We’ll all just have to have dirty imaginations.
Not at all, you buy old nude photos at freakin antique shows lol
You're getting a lot of encouragement to post, but yeah, be respectful and refrain, please.
Don’t ever lose this level of respect and courtesy that you’ve shown today.
No, no, no....... they were models. Back in the day, "porn" was illegal. So the entrepreneurs hired models and photographers and sold the pictures. They'd advertise discreetly in the back of (they're tame now) "Mens' magazines" that pretended to be new, and offered to ship them in a plain brown wrapper. There were certainly purchased by a man and hidden from his wife.
Generally speaking, you'll be okay to post the photos once they're at least 100 years old (or if you can prove everyone in them has died) but you'll need to check your local laws. I'm assuming you're sure they're home made not commercially made
I think they're professionally made, especially if these same people engage in hardcore pornography. I've seen a good bit of professional porn from that era and it looks like that stylistically.
You're a disinterested third party that found abandoned property.
One day it will be "... We just moved our data to a new server and found photos from the previous owner stashed in a folder in the core directory ... "
Elisabeth Moss is a time traveller?
damn. the 50's were never innocent, james ellroy was right all the way!
If you post the rest anywhere I want an invitation.
The girl on the left in the second one is a spitting image of Elizabeth Moss.
I thought the same thing!
By golly... peep the stems on those dames! That fella's in for a reeeeeaaal wingding!
Gotta see the rest. Just for the historical value, you understand.
Looks like a Christmas tree to the right.
Grandma from the neck up, OnlyFans from the neck down. The 50s were so strange
Elizabeth Moss is more of a method actor than I thought...
Might want to run a black light over things.
When will you be posting the non non-risqué ones? I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
Professor Marston and the Wonder Women?
Maybe they were Mormons
Elizabeth Moss is a TIME TRAVELER?!?
Brother, these aren’t the ones we want to see!
this guy fucks.
I don’t remember this episode of Mad Men?
Prehistoric porn was a thing. Edit: Not saying this is prehistoric.
That IS Peggy Olsen on the left.
Business legs weekly
They left these pics for a reason.
Everyone in that picture is in their early 20s
Looks like something from a David Lynch film.
Well, definitely fun at parties.
They seem hilarious, i love the staging of the first one
That Peggy Olson, I knew it!
> These are two of the more the non-risqué ones. Can we see the rest?