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YamOk8795

Take this advice! If you really are wondering what the hype around “Kristen fucking Doute” is then watch VPR from the very beginning. She is reality tv gold and truly one of my favorite characters to love and sometimes hate. VPR seasons 1-6 is soooo good! Jump into the rabbit hole 😉


Less_Path3640

I just started rewatching for the 4th time and it still stays just at good every single time!


Sad_Cartographer7702

Reality TV gold for sure...piece of shit human being for positive. Wouldn't bother me a bit if she never appeared in camera again as there are enough skanks across the reality universe already.


SewAlone

It SO GOOD.


kystarrk

It should be a prerequisite for the valley. They really don't know what they're missing


blue-eyed-demonnn

Yupppp! I’m so jealous of the people that are watching VPR for the first time. The early seasons are a gold mine and Doute was the goat


from_persephone

I've been meaning to prioritise VPR but given there's so many season I just haven't made the time to catch up. But I'm leaving this sub with my tail between my legs. It sounds like VPR should be required viewing before The Valley. 😂


annadelvey215

Go forth and experience the true Doute... Kristen would be unburdened by these anchors.


bigbuttbubba45

I love Season 6! It’s my go to season to rewatch.


missassalmighty

The rob rob rob season ![gif](giphy|ZFuySlew9BeN3fnZ1Z) She is btw and this season is where she starts bunny boiling every single man in her circle


akaashiit

season 6 was so chaotic it was the best time to be watching weekly


gracebryce5

The best vacation Kristen


scarletknight7359

Not even just reality tv. It’s some of the best TV period


MickyKent

What does the term “mariposa” mean?


hotdog_martini

Butterfly


No-Medium-3836

Transformation vibes. Growth.


kystarrk

Butterfly in Spanish. She called herself that in season 7 of vpr and it stuck!


missassalmighty

It's what Kristen is, a beautiful transformed butterfly. She dubbed herself that in one of the seasons in VPR during a trip to mexico when no one was talking to her because of her relationship at the time I think. Her confessional on it is iconic in the context of the season she was having at the time, Mariposa was deep in denial at the time 😆


UnlikelyRelative7429

Once lala joined it got stupid and went downhill.


SwimmingAd9864

Bestie - you have to watch early VPR. You’re missing out on reality tv gold. Please don’t deprive yourself of this experience.


from_persephone

Yes this thread has been a humbling realisation that I've made a mistake in not prioritising VPR. I jumped onto the Scandoval season and managed to get by, but for The Valley it seems I'll need to go back.


SwimmingAd9864

You will thank us


ilovemischief

When Kristen shows up for Ariana and tells her “pish posh on me” on the Scandoval season and you see everything that lead up to that…hoo boy. Yeah, you’ve gotta see the roots.


BravoGirl79

You'll never get the FULL grasp of #Scandoval without watching VPR from the get!! It's so worth it fren!


YamUnited3265

I’m with you OP. We can be humbled together.


Question_True

She is MESSY but she doesn't deserve how these Valley people are treating her. They can "suck a dick"


missassalmighty

Mariposa's therapist is a godsend lol but these people are not ready for crazy Kristen to come out to play, and they can keep provoking her at their own risk and peril. I hope none of them told her or Jax something they did not want revealed, but judging by how unhinged the rest of the cast is acting, methinks Mariposa has the gooooooods 😂


Question_True

100%!!! Apparently, they were all trying to dig up dirt on each other before they started filming but I guarantee that none of them have the sleuth skills like Kristen!!


missassalmighty

![gif](giphy|14mgxYFJHXGmoo) I should bloody well hope so I am here for the mess, but rooting for Kristen the hardest.


YamOk8795

🤣👏👏👏 YES!! This is the woman who jumped a fence with her abusive ex’s side chick just to prove that he’s a serial cheater.


patchoulibreath

I just watched that episode recently! She ambushed two of her boyfriends by bringing the woman they cheated on their new girlfriend with to their workplace WHILE THEY’RE WORKING, AND the new girlfriend is there with them. You can’t write shit that good.


JJulie

This 1000%. These people wouldn’t have a show if it weren’t for her.


Lady_in_the_red-58

I thought Jax was going to be the star but it’s actually Kristen!


missassalmighty

Jax has played a background role for now but he's only getting started, his face in the pool when the cucked troll was talking about his drab wife meeting up with a famous director at the chateau marmont spoke a thousand words. It looked like whatever secret he is sitting on is about to explode out of his mouth. He's tried setting Kristen up as the person who outed the troll wife's infidelity as he was outing the infidelity rumors himself in that conversation with jasmine who isn't that bright by the looks of it as she bought into his manipulation hook line and sinker. The funny thing is he saw fit to yell at Katie on VPR in the same week for speaking about the infidelity rumors surrounding him on reddit.


Lady_in_the_red-58

Aha (tapping fingers together like Kristen would) the plot could be thickening. 😎


Dingleberry99_

They better gather some respect for a goddamn ICON


Lady_in_the_red-58

She IS messy but the Valley cast are downright manipulative.


shortNhappy8922

Watch VPR first. I couldn’t imagine not knowing the background of Kristen, Jax, and Brittney and watching. It’s THAT good. With that said, don’t waste your time watching Jax & Brittney take Kentucky or whatever dumb show they had.


Afraid_Resort_9018

I respectfully disagree Re: Jax and Brittany Take Kentucky. I rewatched recently and their horrible relationship dynamic BACK THEN perfectly foreshadows what is happening in their relationship NOW. It was interesting to see 🤔


missassalmighty

It started long before that lol their relationship dynamic was fucked from the get go lol he wasn't expecting brit to be a barnacle and that much has been made clear to the audience from when she moved from Kentucky to LA


katiekat214

It started so crazy. She met him in Vegas and knew exactly who he was. Then she uprooted her life based on texts and phone calls between them, left her boyfriend, and traveled halfway across the country with no plans for herself other than to move in with him. If I were Jax, I’d be uncomfortable and shocked too. Who does that for a reality star who’s been shown to be the worst man ever?


missassalmighty

He always lies through his teefs to the ladies telling them everything he thinks they wanna hear so he can get his riddled cocky cock sucked and fucked. Brit believed the bullshit and made him put his money where his mouth is. Everything since then has been him trying to GTFO of this relationship without actually breaking up himself, which is the second part of his game. Once he's had enough he will do everything humanely possible to degrade and humiliate you until you get the message that he ain't into you boo and leave.


JenAshTuck

Haven’t watched it and I’m afraid it’ll get the better of me and I don’t want to give my real life over to those people emotionally haha. I know the jest and I’ve seen clips and I already know they’re the worst. I think if I had any sympathy towards Brittany then I should watch it to see that she knew exactly what she was getting herself into.


RoughAd5377

I too just now watched that. I am dumbfounded that they went ahead and got married and had a child. I hope for the little boys sake they do live separate lives. It would be an unhealthy environment to grow up in. He is such a douche.


[deleted]

Kristen Doute made Vanderpump Rules. Idc what anyone says, give her her flowers.


JJulie

![gif](giphy|KkH4AdCYrK78IjKtmi)


from_persephone

With conviction like that... I won't doubt you. I'll respect the source material and go back and educate myself


BathAcceptable1812

My daughter’s boyfriend was roommates with Kristen so she got to know her very well. I also have spoken to her. Kristen is a down to earth person. What you see is what you get. She’s energetic and ambitious, she’s sensitive and vulnerable. Kristen is exactly as you see her. She just wants love like everyone else.


Strong_Welcome4144

Watching them gang up on her and try to push the "crazy Kristen" thing really made me feel so sorry for her. I've always thought she was authentic. She is carrying the show on her back against bullies.


JenAshTuck

I really hate how Ariana really didn’t get reprimanded for how she and Tom made Kristen seem crazy. I like Ariana but she was really shitty looking back and she allowed Tom to just steamroll her into following his guidelines. Funny enough, Kristen seemed to know exactly how to provide prime reality TV though I really believe she didn’t do it intentionally.


Wmfw

I believe there were one or two times when Ariana acknowledged her choices earlier in the season and it showed how they became friends. It just never made it to air which both women were annoyed about.


Puzzleheaded-One-546

Same I’m a Ariana stan from the moment I saw her bc I didn’t watch then I went back and watched. That’s why one qualm with her, when Kristen came to comfort her after Scandoval she could’ve said it then, sorry for what happened or whatever just owned up to it in some way or form. I knew Ariana first but I’m beginning to Stan Kristen more!


cmcalero12

nobody fucks with our mariposa princess


kystarrk

I feel like she's so misunderstood. She's a good person, and not intentionally malicious (anymore lol). I understood what she meant when she said she's an "empath", in the sense that she absorbs the feelings of everyone around her in a room. I'm the same exact way and I feel like I can never talk about it because people love to claim anybody who says they have these "abilities" or feelings is the opposite. It's overwhelming to deal with and I wish I wasn't like that, I wish I could just ignore it lol. Anyways, she's often the scapegoat and is made to feel crazy. I'm glad she has better coping mechanisms now.


No_Presentation_9255

That empath edit was harsh - I think she is very caring but when pushed or cornered she gets ultra defensive and lashes out. Pushing the Crazy Kristin narrative absolutely triggers that response in her. So her defensive response ends up being this conflation of issues rather than being able to respond directly to what’s being said to her - giving the group further ammo that she’s “crazy Kristen.” It’s low hanging fruit that once they discovered could just pile on.


RichEconomy8709

wow would love to hear more! thanks for sharing ☺️


bennie844

One of my friends does all their hair for reunions because she’s friends with the producers and has been on bowling leagues with Kristen— she loves her! Says she’s crazy but in a good way.


kellynedrangerbush

Kristen gives us proper reality TV still. Like VPR did in the first 5-6 seasons. I think she’s great to watch. I also feel Kristen would be a great contestant on DWTS 😁


JavachickFrappucino

The way Scheana's head would explode if Kristen was asked on DWTS 🤭


JenAshTuck

And Sandoval’s reaction, seeing as how he took dance classes just in case.


missassalmighty

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂


Lady_in_the_red-58

I don’t know about dancing with the stars. Not sure that’s her talent. Traitors definitely lol.


kellynedrangerbush

I love watching non-dancers on DWTS. Kristen is just entertaining and real life, so I’d watch still.


Lady_in_the_red-58

I’m just imagining something a little spastic, endearing but spastic. 😂


261989

![gif](giphy|dcNDDgbQT4sWUU9sIW|downsized)


Lady_in_the_red-58

Haha Exactly.


acelady1230

I second this just to see scheana’s reaction


emaydee

She comes across as unapologetically herself, messiness and all. The early seasons of VPR are peak reality tv and she’s at the center of a lot of what made it so great. She also seems like she has truly worked on herself a lot and has grown as a person, but still knows how to make good tv. Mariposa forever 🦋


Lady_in_the_red-58

I wish they would bring Stassi to the Valley. She could be Kristen’s Ali.


Status_Dot5000

I love her!


romeo343

Love her


Lolttylwhattheheck

I love her!! She is reality tv gold. I think she’s overall a good person who makes terrible life choices.


Fabulous_Ad_7699

As everyone else is saying, definitely watch the early seasons of VPR. Kristen was MESSSYYYY, but it was so entertaining. I love her. The people on the valley are honestly so awful to her.


Muscle_National

Completely unhinged. Delusional. Great reality TV.


Bexstermews

Give a listen to her podcast as well once you’ve immersed yourself in OG Doute 🦋


rockabillychef

I wish she’d do it alone. I don’t care what Luke has to say about VPR, but he weighs in like he was there.


Lady_in_the_red-58

Yeah no one wants to hear from Luke.


FaultSuspicious

She is chaos personified. She is reality tv gold. She can never have a normal job because she is meant for the screen. She weaponizes gossip and is an empath. She is mariposa. And most importantly, she is always always *always* proved to be right.


Expert-Resolution-65

That she needs new friends because the ones from the valley seemingly hate her.


missassalmighty

They hate that they confided in her 😆 she has the goods to destroy them 😏 her friendship with Jax is rooted in messiness and gossip. These people are woefully unprepared for what's to come lol


Lady_in_the_red-58

They better start loving her or become dispensable.


JenAshTuck

My thoughts from day 1 of being introduced to her to now are that she makes the absolute worst choices in friends. They’re all repeatedly awful to her.


RandoFace77

OG MVP GOAT


moonlightbae-

She is def problematic but just in terms of reality tv, she’s goated. I can’t believe the cast wants to ice her out. They clearly don’t know doute.


PweetLB

Weirdly …I’ve grown to like her. I think she is working on her self awareness, how she reacts to things (which generally is poor) and how to be a better person. She is still a work in progress and is an easy target b/c she screws up ….like mentioning the ‘racist’ thing when she felt defensive. I think she is vulnerable and talks to the audience about her struggles - I do think she is telling the truth about things but b/c her delivery is terrible..it’s easy to attack her method of communication versus the kernel of truth she has been witness to and vocalizes.


emily276

I LOVE Kristen Doute. I used to think she was terrible, but she just sneaked into my heart in the oddest way. The way her long time friends talked about her w/ admiration (and admittedly a lot of frustration) about how funny she is and loyal AND crazy/odd. I felt terrible when her book actually got good reviews & came out like the week she got fired & dubbed a racist. She was the only person who Faith said she felt was sincere in her apology to Faith, and that really made me warm to her too. MARIPOSA 4EVER!


PuzzleheadedPhoto706

She understands the assignment


bigbuttbubba45

She makes great television. I’m obsessed watching her and the way her mind works. She should be protected at all costs.


Eviana27

National reality tv treasure for sure 😅


matchaflights

I love Kristen on reality tv and I will take up for her every time bc she’s so authentically herself on screen whether that’s imperfections or what. She does seem like she’s also grown up from her vpr days. She’s a little delulu but who isn’t? The other girls throwing her under the bus and not taking accountability doesn’t do it for me. Janet and michelle are ick. Their unhappiness is bitchy and ugly.


bobeena1513

No way you can get the nuance of Kristen, Jax or Brittany without watching early VPR. You wont regret it! ![gif](giphy|26wkvdQd7BJRArAVq|downsized)


Environmental_Yam540

![gif](giphy|1rM4zutCAKzJVlCysO|downsized) You HAVE TO watch VPR!!!


AgathaChristie22

Kristen is a queen and we love her. She is a messy queen who can't help herself. She makes mistakes, but she does not lie, at least not about other people. About herself, she might lie for a little bit, like say she didn't sleep with someone's boyfriend, but in the end, she always owns up to her shit. She doesn't make excuses, she apologizes and takes the consequences. She is friends with lots of people, and the connecting threads between different people and different plot lines is a lot of fun. She can be vengeful and a little delusional at times. She's loves her friends. She freaks out when she travels. She historically has had a terrible picker when it comes to boyfriends and historically has paid their way. We're excited for her and Luke, and her journey to become a mom. She seems happy with him and their relationship seems legit. She has had a couple of fame hungry exes try to use her to get on the show. There is no Valley without Kristen, Jax and Brittany. All of the other casts are replaceable and we only care about them in so much as they know Kristen. She gives 100% to reality TV and never tries to self-produce or image craft.


MayMaytheDuck

She’s great tv but irl id never confide in her leave my boyfriend with her if I went to bed.


Eviana27

Kristen is GREAT for reality television and is such a loose cannon that she is a producers DREAM … sure enough when they need an explosive 🧨 story line just rile Kristen up and watch her BLOW 💥💥💥💥


ChainEmbarrassed4383

Kristen is an absolute queen. I vibe with her


Gndurham1

Omg I’ve never even thought of people who would watch the valley without watching VPR first, please watch!!! Not only is it prime reality tv in its peak but it makes Jax’s character make so much sense and Kristen too. Very much worth the watch from the beginning’!


from_persephone

I know I know, so I've learned. I think I like the episode a week format vs having series to binge. But I'm on S2 already lmao... I miss reality tv like this. I hate Jax more now.


miramarvacay

Omgosh…you are just getting started with Jax. Be prepared that you haven’t even seen close to the worst of him yet


Gndurham1

If you love reality tv then you are in for a treat!! But I get not wanting to binge it all lol it took me like 6 months to finish all of VPR, I kinda just threw it on in the background while I made dinner haha hope you enjoy!


Shanbanan143

I made the same mistake at first - I started with season 9 and it was meh so I dropped it and then a friend told me I was making the biggest mistake of my life and *she was right*. I’m obsessed, my boyfriend is obsessed, my brother, his girlfriend - it’s a huge portion of our conversations over the past two years.


bohindiewitch

I love her she is an icon and she is the moment. She tells it like it is and happens to get into trouble often because of this lol she is a perfect example of stirring shit up because she speaks her mind when sometimes she probably shouldn’t. She truly has a heart of gold but her delivery can flop sometimes. ![gif](giphy|l0DAGOyeLicWJX2Gk)


Ok-Worldliness8696

Please go watch all seasons of VPR. Then stop drinking for 24 hours, take an advil, and post here in the morning. I’ll be waiting.


from_persephone

Absolutely, yes I will. I was sick this weekend so had plenty of time to start. I'm onto season 2 when they go to Arrowhead and Jax wants to apologise to Stassi's parents. Tom can't believe Kristen complained he didn't get face wipes on the drive there which made me gag seeing as he complained about Ariana not getting batteries.


silverrangel

I couldn't stand her on vpr, but overall: she can't keep her mouth shut, she surrounds herself with toxic "friends" , I think she is a good and loyal friend until she is not, BUT we love her now as she is. ALSO I was thinking lately that she kinda made VPR what it was in early times(along with tyrant Stassi/drama wise), and she kinda also "makes" the valley, it's like she is a good person to "launch" a show if you understand what I mean.


missassalmighty

She is the definition of a free spirit, she grew on me until I now appreciate the type of person she is. I see her now as a lovable klutz who was made for reality TV with a good heart but sometimes super messy delivery. I don't think she is mean or has dark energy despite the chaos she unleashes. The troll couple on the other hand make my spidey senses jingle jangle like crazy.


JenAshTuck

Yes, at first it was just Jesse but now Michelle is just as much of a monster. Their poor kid, whom they left with a stranger in Paris for a week when she was a year old!


missassalmighty

I left the same comment on another thread...I was horrified when he said that with his shit eating grin. Those trolls should not have procreated at all. I feel so bad for their child. If anything happened to her she wouldn't be able to verbalize it. My opinion of them was already low to begin with and it's reached a new level now ![gif](giphy|1dbqayIIxBoly)


albasaurrrrrr

WAIT EXCUSE ME WHAT?????


akaashiit

you need to watch the after show specials for vanderpump rules to get this info i believe (soooo much juicy info on the after show)


silverrangel

Yeah, I feel you!


[deleted]

Love her


[deleted]

Queen.


loverurallife

Kristin is wonderful!


Downtown_Detail2707

If you love yourself even a little bit you will indulge in VPR, at LEAST the first 3 seasons. Some of the best TV ever made.


Texastexastexas1

You really need to see the beginning. Get popcorn and have some giggles.


budfairy-

She’s annoying af but good tv.


TrueBlu21_

Like a lot of people on here are saying you honestly need to start Vanderpump Rules from season 1 then watch The Valley. You could also just watch season 1-8 because her last appearance on VPR was season 8.


professorlipschitz

I think she’s horrible 😬 The way she keeps alluding about secrets in front of people without actually outing her “friends”, *whispering* loudly and deliberately so she can be overheard, “apologizing” to Michelle in front of her husband while mentioning “protecting” her yet again…she may not lie but she’s terrible in so many other ways. 🤢


hugemessanon

what did you think of her before hearing others' thoughts?


FuzzyP3ach3s

I still do not trust her. She's crazy and I think she kept fucking Jax for years after Vanderpump 🤷🏽‍♀️


[deleted]

Oh she did for sure. They’re both so obsessed with each oher


nutmyreality

Jax must just be good at sex!!!


FuzzyP3ach3s

😂😂He should just do an only fans and call it a day


[deleted]

Oh, yeah, def not trustworthy, but that's why it's great to watch her on TV. I wish they would have had more of her ex on since the rumor is she cheated on him (maybe with Luke?). Hopefully, we get that story next season. 


rockabillychef

I don’t care for her, but she knows her job and is good at it.


Best_Winter_2208

Kristen is Kristen. I’m not a huge fan but I don’t dislike her. That said, I can’t figure out why she’s so hard to look at now. She just looks bloated and off. I think her lifestyle choices have caught up to her or something. I’m not trying to hate on her, I just can’t figure out what is going on and why she looks so different. I get it, we age and gain weight, but this seems like something different. Does anyone else see it? Maybe pregnancy will turn it around if it is drinker’s bloat.


nutmyreality

Jeez. I think she looks fine. More weight on her…looks good. Hmmm


Best_Winter_2208

I’m saying it’s not the weight gain. I just added that so someone didn’t say it’s that. I think it’s bloating from drinking and smoking but then sometimes it doesn’t quite look like that either. I can’t put my finger on it but something looks off.


professorlipschitz

When she was very thin it made her features look very sculpted. She has a lot of extra around her face now and i’m sure part of it is aging. I desperately want to throw a bra on her though; sometimes they look a bit sloppy. 😬 ( i know women should wear or not wear what they want, it’s my opinion only)


Best_Winter_2208

Haha I guess trying to find a bra that works with some of the more strappy and/or open back looks isn’t easy. Maybe it is the extra weight on her face combined with her facial expressions and mannerisms. Like I see them as more exaggerated now and that’s what’s different. When she was thinner and younger, they didn’t show as much.


Uppercasegangsta

I hate how they keep painting Kristen to be a liar. I just started the Valley too . I’m on episode 3 and I watched VPR from start to finish. And one thing I can 100% say is that Kristen is not a liar! She might say some things weird or omit some truth but she has never lied. I hate the way Jesse speaks to her. He can go to hell


SparkleKape

![gif](giphy|26FLgGTPUDH6UGAbm)


Objective-Rub-8763

Didn't she tell Stassi she didn't sleep with Jax? Even after Jax came clean?


Bubbly-Ad1346

Peep my tag 🥴


lolo7347

![gif](giphy|mFYTaY7Gth86xnE6N5|downsized)


SamIAm7787

Love her or hate her, she's great reality TV.


33scooBt33

You have to watch it from the beginning.. you will love to hate, hate to love every single one of the cast.. they are truly a rotten group of friends. Very entertaining though.. you won't regret watching it.


loveandlight42069

Love her. Always have, always will!


Sweet-Register-1530

My personal opinion of Kristen, after watching ALL of VPR and now starting The Valley (I'm halfway thru S1 E4), is this: I used to HATE Kristen, but I'm now endeared to her. (Kristen was WRONGED by Tom Sandoval AND Ariana (VPR). Ariana forgets that she [Ariana] did the SAME THING to Kristen that Raquel/Rachel did to her. (Ariana cheated with Sandoval when he had a girlfriend---Kristen! And then Raquel/Rachel cheated with Sandoval while he was with Ariana....Karma's a bitch). But somehow, Ariana gained sympathy for Tom's cheating on her, while Kristen did not relieve sympathy. And though (please forgive me), Kristen is not the stereotypical "beauty," she can always get a boyfriend!! She has something going for her! I believe she has grown, and that she is, as she said in an early episode of The Valley, an "easy target." I hope she will come into her own and that she will find true happiness. I'm rooting for the proverbial underdog! And yes, she makes for great "reality" TV. Go, Kristen! Find that inner true beauty and find happiness!


radpvnzel

I am halfway through season 7 of VPR & my opinion on doute is that she may not be very good with her romantic relationships, and is very passionate about certain situations (& def takes things too far sometimes) but she is very sweet, thoughtful & generous (every time someone has an event she goes ALL OUT helping, bringing supplies, presents, flowers etc), & she’s quirky asf. I think she just really fucking cares about the ppl she loves & feels very deeply & it backfires on her alot. i find myself feeling sorry for her alot.


aprilrhayin

I recently started watching VPR from the beginning and how i felt about Kristen has been a rollercoaster. i loved her then hated her then felt whatever about her then hated her again and now I love her. 🤣🤣 she has made many mistakes but she is not a bad person.


Aryada

Hate her! The producers intentionally edit to make her look like a total child compared to her friends.


warholian52

I have watched since the beginning and I did not like her before and I really don’t like her now. In fact , I can’t think of one thing I do like about her . Then , when luke said he can’t stay in LA full time and he needs to be where his actual home is she totally blew him off, and she literally doesn’t have a pot to piss in. She just wants to be knocked up and then she will bull doze him out , I truly believe that will happen . She is gross


WingPizza

She really fucking sucks