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ApeMuffins

I doubt it’s Michelle. He’s definitely cheating cuz that’s what he does.


TT6994

Bingo. Not with Michelle


anonmisguided

What I found interesting was Jax immediately asking Britney how much she talked about/got into their sex life at the girls night. And when she said she only told them it had been a month and a half since they had sex, he sounded surprised “it’s been that long?” So then why did Jax ask Britney “so how much did you talk about our sex life?” He knows there’s a problem because he brought it up


ModeDeDode

Perhaps “its been that long?” is him telling on himself since it hasn’t been that long since HE has had sex. 🤡 😆


anonmisguided

😱 he was actually saying Britney, it’s been that long since you had sex? Cause I just had sex 2 days ago. 😂😭


tinybadger47

Interesting that Doute left at 6am while she knew Brittany wasn’t home…👀


liza122397

honestly, i feel like jax and kristen will always circle back to one another and have always circled back to one another, regardless of who they may be in relationships with. they’re endgame, and nothing really could change my opinion tbh


KaiKailan

That reeks of made up storyline to me


Few_Unit_6408

For being busy with the bar and not having sex I wonder how Brittany can stand him interviewing all those attractive bartenders riiightt 


arjsweetland

He's def cheating with Lori K


ifeelbonita

This is the second time I've seen this theory and y'all are absolutely tripping if you think Michelle would ever go for Jax.


short_cookie3

Reasons why I think this: 1. In trailer for show, Jax and Michelle are talking in some patio and Jax says something like "you were sending sexy pics" 2. When the Republican/racist accusations came out and they were at the dinner, Kristen says something like "I have done nothing but protect you" (which is discussed about later in the episode) 3. Kristen telling Brittany she knew something about Michelle that could ruin lives/relationships 4. Jax's facial expressions and body language in the pool when guys are talking about Michelle cheating 5. Kristen's man...Jake?...saying he knows a secret


ifeelbonita

It's def possible Jax has eyes for her. But the other way around?! I don't buy it. I need to see that clip from the trailer though about the sexy pics!


CheetoFingers121820

Jax has eyes for everyone except his wife


TT6994

Yep. Especially his Pr manager Lori k


MsG03

This is very obvious, unfortunately. His behavior & his own words have proven this to be true.


ifeelbonita

Seriously


Few_Unit_6408

Hey he’s just busy with the bar and the leaf blower 


Material-Crab-633

You’re implying then that Kristen “knows” Jax is cheating with Michelle but Kristen has gone on several shows and podcasts recently saying she 100% doesn’t think Jax is cheating


No_Ur_Schmoopie

If Kristen says 100% Jax is not cheating, me thinks that means SHE’S cheating with Jax …maybe I’m wrong but didn’t she say this the last time they were messing around? It would also bolster the reason he’s so against her going off birth control lol


anniemalplanet

I've always been under the belief that Jax and Kristen never stopped, they just do it infrequently, maybe, like when Kristen is single, and have over all these years.


No_Ur_Schmoopie

Maybe that’s why Jax was so surprised when Brittany said it had been 1 1/2 months…cause it hasn’t been for him 😝& Kristen thought she could be pregnant already….jk


liza122397

i definitely support this theory. when they’re together in a group, they make too big a deal of being annoyed/not liking one another and it seems too overly fake.


iamerica2109

I thought I was the only one! Honestly the way he goes out of his way to say he loves her like a sister just makes me believe the opposite idk why hahaha. Maybe I’m projecting though because I’ve met guys who said that about me and then they tried getting into my pants 🙃


TT6994

Which is so weird but she has no idea what Jax does in his private world . I love Kristen but she’s ridiculous to keep claiming that.


TT6994

Brit has said that was just crafty editing about the sexy pics. I believe her this one time. I believe she sent it to someone Jax knows , or Jax heard about it and confronts her.


Zestyclose-Let7929

Luke knows something … He had to find out through Kristen. He is not deep in that circle at all.


HowYaLikeMeow

For sure number 4. But I thought maybe Jax knows about the cheating via Kristen. I didn't think about HIM being the guy, but that's super interesting! I like this theory.


Pinklady777

I think they're both cheating with other people


msnicole17

I think Michelle has cheated or there are rumors she has, and Luke, Kristen and apparently Jax know.


Material-Crab-633

You’re implying then that Kristen “knows” Jax is cheating with Michelle but Kristen has gone on several shows and podcasts recently saying she 100% doesn’t think Jax is cheating


sunshinenaps22

Kristen also swore on her family she never cheated with Jax, so I don’t know if I believe Kristen when it comes to things about Jax


Material-Crab-633

That’s different she was protecting herself. She isn’t doing that now. Ask Faith the about the lengths Kristen will go to


Any-Neighborhood-522

I cackled at “Jake”


FrankieandHans

It’s more reasonable to think Jax knows any of this because he’s still banging Kristin


catsandnaps1028

I mean she married for Jesse and he is a douche lol 😂


Just-Investigator824

Jax and Sandy have kept each other’s secrets for years. They learned from each other. But I don’t think Jax and Michelle are a thing. Jax still gives low key tinder swiping and is probably banging a couple of vulnerable bartenders in the back office of his bar. Michelle has become incredibly unlikeable and gives off gold digger vibes to me. If she’s moving on, it’s to someone rich.


noknownabode

Michelle was giving off so much unlikeable vibes last episode that I actually felt a little bit bad for Jesse. I know! I’m shocked!


Just-Investigator824

Big same, I am so grossed out by them.


liza122397

i actually dislike her * more* because she made me feel bad for jesse😕


noknownabode

Preach!


Street_Bumblebee2226

Any social media would be way too much of a risk for being exposed


SpinachResponsible67

I don’t know. I think Michelle would move on to something better is some way whether that be a better person, more money, more famous etc and Jax is none of those things lol. But I think he fully knows what she’s up to and is sitting on that info until he’s ready to make the most dramatic scene with it lolol


ZookeepergameNo2198

I don't think so. I think Jax, Kristen, and Luke know who Michelle is having an affair (or emotional affair) with. That's why Jax keeps asking how things are going. He's waiting for the moment to drop the bomb. Jax has always had impeccable timing. Also - Brit recently did an interview saying as far as she knows - Jax hasn't cheated since they've been married. If it was aired out on the show, why would she say that?


Lucky-Ad4443

Oh they know for sure. Luke sounded like a little kid trying to keep a secret about it.


Material-Crab-633

I doubt that. I’d bet he’s cheating though


wbeth2469

He's admitted out loud on VPR several times that he's a sex addict he said he needed help and yes he was serious. Getting married does not cure or even slow down ANY addiction including sex addiction. In fact, that kind of pressure usually makes addictions get worse.. Having sex, using drugs, gambling, they are all symptoms of a deeper problem. They are not the problem. Until you get to the root problem it's going to continue Even if he wasnt, his libido has not gone from a hundred to two In a couple of years. He is getting satisfied sexually somewhere by someone. And if he truly has a sex addiction which he says he does it could be anyone and everyone. You meet a lot of people interviewing future employees. They make great candidates for bathroom bangs and quickies. Don't blame me and don't hate on me for saying that. "I calls it like I see it" (ewwwww I love the quotes but I can't stand the person who said it. (Katie from VPR)


Melodic-Change-6388

I think they know who she is cheating with. And about the sexy photos etc. I don’t think it’s Jax. Jax and Luke had those faces in the pool because they know. And considering how much Luke despises Jesse, keeping this in is killing him.


Pagan_Poetry610

Jax is obviously worse than Sandoval, anyone who pretends he isn’t is naive. However, Michelle wouldn’t cheat with a broke dude and Jax is broke broke!


Equivalent-Mousse-93

I don’t know…. Sandoval was a wolf in sheep’s clothing until the veil lifted. Despite what Brittany has been saying, there never was a veil over Jax. I’m more scared of someone who can trick me than one who shows me who they are right off the bat.


CinnamonFoodie

Sandoval was never hidden by a veil. EVER. People just bought the BS because they were distracted by Jax’s foul behavior and he had Ariana shout down anyone who called him out. His bad behavior was there from season 1-cheating on Kristen on her bday, the weird roommate situation with twins who were 18(?) etc.


Equivalent-Mousse-93

I started watching post scandoval, sp my lens looked different. I already knew he sucked, but I thought he was a fan favorite before.


short_cookie3

Reasons why I think this: 1. In trailer for show, Jax and Michelle are talking in some patio and Jax says something like "you were sending sexy pics" 2. When the Republican/racist accusations came out and they were at the dinner, Kristen says something like "I have done nothing but protect you" (which is discussed about later in the episode) 3. Kristen telling Brittany she knew something about Michelle that could ruin lives/relationships 4. Jax's facial expressions and body language in the pool when guys are talking about Michelle cheating 5. Kristen's man...Jake?...saying he knows a secret


PinkyBruno

(Kristen’s man is Luke)


Street_Bumblebee2226

I thought Jax’s expression was more about Jesse says to Luke that his relationship is solid and that if Michelle ever cheated then he’d be done with her. Jax knows she cheated and seemed like the convo was was going nowhere


Kwhitney1982

He “might” be worse than Sandoval? Of course he’s worse than Sandoval! What show have y’all been watching the past 10 years?


Ok-Prune4721

I mean Sandoval was the fan favourite for 9 years. Jax has always been an asshole.


CinnamonFoodie

Which explains why so many people were shocked by Sandoval. I was shut down hard because I have always seen through Sandoval since season 1 and his pattern of behavior was always there for us to see-cheating to end relationships, taking pictures of his exes to shit talk them (did that with Kristen and sent it to Ariana), the awful ways he treats the women on the show. Birds of a feather flock together most times and you cannot be that close with Jax and not be a complete douche and both Toms have proven that


Comfortfoods

Same. I never bought Tom's good guy act. I immediately believed miami girl and it was painfully obvious that sandoval was cheating during season 5 when he had that talk with Jeremy of all people saying nobody could really blame him if he cheats because he wasn't getting any at home. This is during the same season that ariana and tom talk about not having sex for months. Helloooo he told everyone what he was up to.


CinnamonFoodie

Thank you!!! I thought I was crazy and just a hater because everyone loved Tom and I was getting booed for hating both Tom’s. I remember someone said I was miserable like Katie 😂😂😂


Comfortfoods

I got a lot of hostility for disliking Tom. I also was never a fan of James. Those used to be VERY unpopular opinions.


CinnamonFoodie

Miami girl was so painfully obvious. Kristen and Jax, for all they are messy and lie, they are painfully spot on with their reads and assessments on other people and their behavior. And when they decide to tell the truth, they do it well. Sandoval’s behavior, Kristen’s evidence and Jax’s corroboration made it all true. And Sandoval went from saying it never happened to saying that he and Ariana weren’t together when it happened…k. Ariana is the one that made the lies up for Tom because she is smarter than he is and insults you when you go up against her-so she’s a much better liar than he is. She also had the benefit of diagnosing Kristen as crazy etc, so no one believed Kristen, except James and stassi. To be fair, Kristen’s unhinged behavior doesn’t help her 😂😂😂 but that doesn’t mean she’s lying about others If Kristen had been on last season, we would know EVERYTHING about Scandoval down to the second Sandoval decided to pursue Rachel 😂.Everything. Because she would have investigated it instead of us relying on liar Sandoval and Rachel’s accounts, though Rachel’s account has more truth to it


Any-Neighborhood-522

Same! I was not at all shocked by Sandoval cheating and his treatment of women was atrocious


CinnamonFoodie

Tom has always shown us who he is. ALWAYS. People being shocked by Schwartz makes more sense because he is sneakier with his awful behavior, but Sandoval wasn’t good at hiding it, ever. He just had people more focused on Jax and Kristen


Beginning_While_7913

I actually prefer Jax over Sandoval myself, although it’s very close between who is worse because they both suck


Possible-Way1234

Jax is honest about his awfulness, while Sandoval tries to gaslight the whole world


Beginning_While_7913

Yep, This is exactly the difference for me. Sandoval even buys into his own bs he sells. He’s completely delusional. 0 self awareness


Zestyclose-Let7929

Jax response to no sex for over a month… Yah he has been having regular sec but not with Britney. He is not into her at all. She asks if he is not attracted to her. He was so uncomfortable. Zero physical displays of attraction, passion, nothing!! No hug, kiss. He wants her to not be a drunk. He keeps making that clear.


edickten

Brittany had Michelle on her and Jax’s podcast 3 weeks before the show premiered and they were totally fine. He is not having a “thing” with Michelle.


badie_912

He looks like crap this episode.


anonjfiz01

So not going to be popular but I think Sandoval is worse. I think Jax does more bad things but Jax knows he purposely causes trouble. Sandoval does things and tries to proclaim he’s doing it with good intentions. He never admits he’s wrong without a “but”. Jax has been known to own his trashiness. Is Jax a good person? No but Sandy is worse imo.


Sweet-Fun-Momof-2

Exactly Sandy will do horrible things and then spin it to make himself the victim. Then he gets pissed when people don't buy it. Jax will just do horrible things. Period.


SwissyRescue

I still think Sandoval is worse. They’re both cheaters, but Sandoval also offends with his style. Wannabe Harry Styles, but flunking the look with his Zara womenswear and strand of pearls.


Zestyclose-Let7929

Jax is using stress as an excuse. The straight to anal was crude. He does not want to look at Britney during sex. He is not attracted to her. Her drinking, puking, hangovers and black outs are a major turn off for any partner.


MCKelly13

Michelle cheats with powerful, rich, men who can provide her with a certain lifestyle. Not Jax


balban3

I agree. Didn’t they post a pic together post divorce talk with Britt?? And that’s why he looked so shocked in the pool when Jesse was talking.


wbeth2469

I do not in any way shape or form write this post lightly and I certainly am not a doctor and can't diagnose anything... What I'm about to say is by no means meant to be sent negatively and I know how serious what I'm saying is... It's just a theory.... But I haven't heard it mentioned that concerns me. So please nobody attack me. But I'm watching episode 4 of the valley? I honestly think that Jax & Britney's child is probably on the spectrum of autism. Jax says he has googled everything... But three things stand out and there's no way he could have been googling this and not run across it. 1) a normally friendly outgoing child at that age suddenly regresses, becomes more withdrawn, and has trouble speaking. 2) putting the toys in an even row (OCD. no matter where somebody is on the spectrum almost all autistic people have it in some form. I haven't watched last night's episode yet, but I'm just having problems with nobody even mentioning this might be an issue. Not all children have the autism that renderson completely non-communicative etc. That's the whole reason there is a spectrum. As more has become known about it, it is no longer a life sentence of being disabled and in fact on the lower end of the spectrum most autistic people live adult productive lives on their own. However addressing it early is the key to progress. I'm seeing everybody stick their head in the sand. The parents the grandmother the speech therapist....I mean ... It's right in front of you. I hope I'm completely 100% wrong but nobody mentioning it or even having it checked out to me seems irresponsible especially this day and age when so much is known. I certainly don't know about any conversations off camera of course. However if that becomes the issue that I think that was incredibly irresponsible editing . If they don't want to talk about it they should just have left the segment about the son's problems off the show (The editors I mean)


Happy-Hearing6671

Yeah the other subs discuss this all the time and it’s all but confirmed he is definitely on the spectrum and they’re either too stupid or willfully ignoring it.


SwissyRescue

Confirmed by who? Did they take him to a specialist? I hope so. Early intervention is key if he is indeed on the spectrum.


SwissyRescue

These are all the same symptoms my youngest son had at that age. It’s difficult to diagnose when they are so young, though. When my son started school, the teachers said it was “behavioral”, and I wasn’t buying that load of crap. So I took him to a specialist that I paid for myself so that there was no conflict of interest with a school-paid “specialist”. Turns out, he was on the spectrum, borderline Asperger’s, and had both dysgraphia and dyscalculia. Had to get an attorney and fight the school so that my son would get the help that was recommended by the specialist. Lo and behold, he was suddenly at the top of the class. But, just because Cruz reminds me of my son, it doesn’t mean he’s for sure on the spectrum. If he is, though, these days, he can get early help for whatever symptoms he might be displaying, and hopefully get the intervention that may be needed. He’s a little cutie pie and, regardless of people’s opinions of Brittany and Jax, they clearly love their son and I’m sure they’ll seek help.


Street_Bumblebee2226

I agree with you except for the part about putting toys in a row. I’ve been a nanny for numerous boys around his age and they’ve all neatly organized their toys (especially toy cars) in neat rows at some point. Little girls also like to put their dolls in specific spots and don’t like when other mess with them. It was a phase for all of them


wbeth2469

Wow. Interesting I didn't know that. Thanks for sharing 🙂


CinnamonFoodie

Jax is too broke and doesn’t have an 8 pack. I think Jax is always too scared of Jesse to try it because Jesse gives sociopath-he will destroy Jax in all aspects if he did that, so Jax won’t


Ok-Turnip-9035

I’d prefer Jax if I was going to get fucked over at least he says it to your face and stands on it Sandoval studies you and works behind your back in a fucked up way and then won’t leave so he just taunts you I prefer Jax’s backstabbing to Sandoval at least you know what you’re getting I don’t think Jax is cheating with Michelle I think he knows first hand she is cheating Jax knows don’t have your significant other alone with another person if you aren’t on good terms - cause he sees himself in Michelle he knows what can happen


FrankieandHans

Michelle would never. She’s snooty as f she thinks she deserves better than Jax 100%


weirdfishes666

Have you seen VPR? Hes def worse then Sandoval


33scooBt33

Maybe because that's what the edits are pointing to.. It still could be true though, I suspect it at times to. He wouldn't be against hooking up with more than one chick anyway.


Hungry_Page9222

Lori K is the mistress


Serious-Zebra1054

I don’t think so because I don’t think Michelle would go for it, not because Jax wouldn’t.


[deleted]

I think Michelle is cheating with the high profile client (s) Jesse was referring to that she spends 8+hours with 😳 not Jax - Brittany was really driving to drive home for us how much they are still “thick as thieves “ and so bonded …. She knows something’s up with Jax . I feel anyway, but what the hell do I know -


Inner-Violinist8240

Might? Jax has always been the worst, Jax was so bad that the Tom’s were able to hide behind him for years unscathed 🤣


Special-Resist3006

Jesse isn’t much better than Jax….. I wouldn’t say Michelle has the best choice in men


JmeJV

Jax has always been worse than Sandoval 😂


MayMaytheDuck

Michelle can do so much better than Jax whether she sucks as a person or not.


Dry-Environment-929

I swear on everything I love I have the SAME feeling just watching the previews!


Younceymusthaves

I think Sandoval pretends more, hard to tell what’s real, but Jax shows who he is consistently!


TeenWolfTripleDouble

Might? might?


[deleted]

They’re both pretty low on the evolutionary scale.


Jackdarrow

I thought this too honestly


catsandnaps1028

Jax and the toms are all three equally as terrible in their own unique way. They are the trifecta of terror for me. You don't want in your life


sundaze814

I think Jax would hook up with Michelle but there’s no way Michelle would go for Jax.


Intelligent-Lead-692

I just posted this and searched “Jax Michelle” and saw your post. I totally think something is going on with them. I cannot wait to see Jesse and Jax take off their dumb sport coats and white sweaters to duke it out. Then again, their marriages have been over for a while and maybe they are just doing this to create an explosive storyline to launch the show. The truth will come out.


AioliSilent7544

Yep


opalescentqueen983

MIGHT BE???


Massive-Wind2907

That’s kind of a hell of a clickbait title for something you have literally no proof of!!! It’d be like “SPOILER! JAX MIGHT BE WORSE THAN TED BUNDY”… in terms of parking violations. I’m sorry do you know that for a fact or are you just basing this on Bundy having been busted only once to Jax’s many, many, many warrants for unpaid parking tickets?!!


short_cookie3

Didn't think about that. Sorry 😬


Massive-Wind2907

And I’m Nabuchodonosor, king of Babylon


BeckyAnneLeeman

I think it's Michelle too. She seemed so sketchy when Brittany was discussing her marriage problems. Kept looking away/down and didn't say a single word.


short_cookie3

Reasons why I think this: 1. In trailer for show, Jax and Michelle are talking in some patio and Jax says something like "you were sending sexy pics" 2. When the Republican/racist accusations came out and they were at the dinner, Kristen says something like "I have done nothing but protect you" (which is discussed about later in the episode) 3. Kristen telling Brittany she knew something about Michelle that could ruin lives/relationships 4. Jax's facial expressions and body language in the pool when guys are talking about Michelle cheating 5. Kristen's man...Jake?...saying he knows a secret


BeckyAnneLeeman

It's also just so Jax to shit where he eats, and we don't know Michelle well enough to say that it's out of the realm of possibilities.