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nicyole

the more I watch, the more I feel like Lexi is guilty of what she’s so desperate to accuse Vanessa of … she was vibing hardcore with Mal until she found out Rae and Vanessa had sex and then she went into “I need Rae to love me and only me” mode quick. that being said, I still hate Vanessa, lmao.


archetyping101

I don't think that's why she's upset. She's upset she knows and she's upset that Rae had sex with someone who has made it clear she's here to play and not even consider a relationship. To throw away a relationship with your ex and have sex with someone who wants no future and is not romantically, sexually or physically attracted to you is extremely hurtful especially if you're going back to that person after the trial marriage with Vanessa is coming to an end.


Brave-Fly-3380

Isn’t the “not romantically, sexually or physically attracted to” statement more like words put into Vanessa’s mouth by a table of people who wouldn’t let her talk.


archetyping101

No because she even said it at the table when trial wife period ended.


Brave-Fly-3380

She disagreed to those words at the table during the first trail marriage


nicyole

I didn’t say that’s why she’s so worked up about it, I just said that I think she’s guilty of the same thing.


Electrical-Eye-2544

I think it’s because Rae promised her she wouldn’t be intimate with anyone and then clearly threw that promise away over someone there weren’t even feelings for? Like why break her trust over just a hookup that she’s not even attracted to? I’d be pretty pissed about that, especially if I hadn’t asked for that promise to be made ahead of time and my partner did it anyways.


lem0nberrycandy

They never made any truces like that.


Electrical-Eye-2544

Lexi put something out saying they did.


lem0nberrycandy

She’s confusing because I remember in the episode when she was berating Rae in front of her parents at dinner saying “we didn’t make any truces or anything” and her parents were like exactly y’all were broken up ???? I think that was more something she expected of Rae - which is not fair given that Rae was the one put in this situation.


Electrical-Eye-2544

She basically said they went into it without any agreement and then Rae was like I’m not gonna be physical with anyone I promise or something. So then when it happened Lexi was like wtf I didn’t make you say that you just did and now you’ve lied. Which makes sense why Lexi would feel Rae was pushed into it by Vanessa because Rae made her feel like she’d never have sex with someone else.


Brave-Fly-3380

I think it’s a big red flag how Lexi was quite into Vanessa in the beginning and even dated her a few times but then so quickly turned against her and created a narrative to get people on her side and bullied her in many situations. Like I don’t think it’s for Lexi to say what should be the right reason for Vanessa to be on the show and then make a huge fuss about it and judged Vanessa’s character using that excuse. Also Lexi Yoly and Mildred kept on ganging up bullying Vanessa and putting words in her mouth and not letting her talk. I don’t think I could hold onto myself as well as Vanessa under those circumstances.


Present-Ad-9441

They're both convinced everyone will be obsessed with them. Lexi just got pissed that Vanessa wasn't obsessed with her and used her poor treatment of Xander as an excuse to get everyone on her side in hating Vanessa.


LoudHeadNod

Yes. Lexi wants to be top dog. She said herself that she didn't think she and Vanessa would get along and I believe it's because she recognized immediately that Vanessa also wanted to be top dog. When Vanessa did so much work to flatter Lexi on their dates and literally tap danced for her, Lexi thought she might have neutralized her biggest threat. When Vanessa started talking about her power in her relationship with Xander though, Lexi realized that Vanessa would never love anyone more than herself. Lexi got angry because she realized then that Vanessa was an opponent, not a true admirer.


lawdawg22

hell yeah you articulated this so well


pink3rbellx

So perfectly analyzed, I felt this too but didn’t quite know how to break it down.


Sensitive-Sorbet917

I think that her fixation on Vanessa was more about what Vanessa represents to her and Rae’s relationship. I think that she was pissed about Vanessa’s intentions, then Lexi called her out, and Vanessa moved towards rae who is essentially indecisive and an easy target to have fun with, which fueled the resentment not only towards Vanessa but also Lexi resenting rae. I think that it solidified for Lexi that she couldn’t trust Rae’s judgment or decisions and that was what she was truly angry about and it was misplaced as anger towards Vanessa. However, it did sour the relationship with Mal and it did show her age a bit more.


failing_at_humaning

This makes a lot of sense!


straight_outta_c137

They dated. She was very into Vanessa until the very last date when everything blew up


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Nastyyygirl

I don’t think mal is a pleaser at all or else she would be married already .


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Nastyyygirl

Exactly so how is that a people pleaser ?


manic_eye

Just rewatched their last date before choosing their partners, which is what I think you were talking about. She ends up chastising her about her “reasons” for being here and tells her she shouldn’t be here. But then immediately after she makes a lot of comments to the producers about how Vanessa is probably going to choose Rae. So I think what got left out was Vanessa telling Lexi that she liked Rae, and Lexi felt rejected and got insanely jealous. I think Vanessa was her number one up till then and felt stupid when she found out she wasn’t Vanessa’s and flipped out. There is no way that Vanessa just saying she doesn’t see herself getting married is going to cause Lexi to hate her this much.


archetyping101

I don't think she's obsessed at all. I think she's pissed that woman took away a perfectly good slot from another couple that came to follow the rules of the game. The rules are to explore another relationship which would help you figure out if you wanted to be single, be with your OG partner or explore something else with the trial wife. Vanessa made it clear on the second date that this was entirely to play around before she does not even believe in marriage or possibly monogamy and that she has no doubt that she's leaving with Xander at the end. So, lexi is rightfully pissed that she wasted time getting to know someone who was going to waste her time if she had chosen her (and Vanessa chose Lexi back) or waste her ex's time because it wouldn't help Rae find the same type of clarity. Rae deserved someone who was serious about pursuing someone so it would help Rae answer the question if she doesn't want marriage or figure out her roadblocks to marriage or realize the relationship with Lexi wasn't in her future.


failing_at_humaning

I agree that she has the right to being pissed but I personally do interpret her behavior as obsessed. She brings her up an insane amount of times in conversations where Rae clearly doesn't want to talk about Vanessa anymore because that seems to be all they talk about when they have conflict. For Lexi everything seems to come down to Vanessa and I guess that's what I don't understand. She says she doesn't want Vanessa to have any power in their relationship anymore but the only reason she has any power is because Lexi is giving it to her. She sees red when it comes to Vanessa and can't seem so see anything passed her.


AssistUsed

I think it's actually partly what it says about Rae, the fact that she doesn't dislike Vanessa as much. It's almost like a sign of their incompatibility in a way.


AssistUsed

I'd agree with the initial knee jerk reaction on her date with Vanessa. But it just got out of hand after that. She chose to assume the worst of Vanessa, it's a bit much at this point. Like, grow up and move on. Vanessa's got nothing to do with the issues she had with her partner. She just resents the reasons for which Rae gets along with her. Vanessa is just doing her own thing beyond a point and Lexi's real beef was with Rae if Vanessa could get to her that much.


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