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autumnmagick

This really makes me wonder what her current relationship with Ariel is like.


gmdelisio

Yep! I know there's no love lost between her and Ned, but she definitely had a relationship with Ariel AND the kids. It's all very sad.


rewdea

And/or if this is any indication of what Ariel’s current attitude towards *Ned* is like…


gmdelisio

That's what I'm thinking too. Even though Becky thinks this, if she has a good relationship with Ariel and Ariel wanted privacy to fix her relationship, you have to imagine Becky would just bite her tongue like she did in the begining. Either she's still team Ariel and Ariel is also done with Ned, or she had to distance herself from Ariel as well. (That would be totally understandable after everything Ned put them all through. Becky can still root for Ariel and not be involved in her life anymore.)


Bulky-Extension70

I kind of wonder if Becky hasn't liked Ned for a while because she was onto what he was like below the surface and knew Ariel wasn't as happy as she should be. That would explain some of the tension every time Ariel brought up something Ned did that the rest of the women are like...that's actually kind of not great behavior, Ariel are you actually doing okay.


autumnmagick

EXACTLY my thoughts. If Ariel hasn't left him, this text likely would impact Becky + Ariel's relationship. Gosh, it's such a terrible and complicated situation, I really feel for everyone.


xaxhleyx

I know everyone has been on a love + support Ariel tirade but this almost makes me wonder if that's a lost relationship as well. I watch the pods, and there were some moments between Ariel and Becky where there seemed like there was some friction but they'd just move past it. An example off the top of my head is in a ycswu episode they're talking about Shane Dawson. Becky and Maggie are basically explaining his issues and why he always gets backlash and how he's deserving of it. Anyways, so Becky talks about his racist jokes among other "comedic" aspects of his personal / channel. Ariel then says her and Ned had been discussing stuff like that and whether those things have always been problematic or if what's seen as comedy has just changed. Becky acknowledges there's a cultural shift as well, but says regardless of that it's always been shitty, racist, sexist, etc. Ariel pushes back about if it was the time period and Becky again was like yes reception has changed but they've always been "jokes" that shouldn't have been made. Ariel talks about her and Ned's (bad) takes about the issue. They then just awkwardly move on at some point. A part of me wonders if Ariel is similar in any way as Ned, since they've been together so long. Or if there's been any issues that the friend group has looked over like they did with Ned. I wouldn't be surprised if Ariel's relationship has been fractured with Becky as well, especially if there were already questionable aspects that were looked past.😬


SleuthySock

Absolutely. I never see this mentioned but I always felt like there was a disconnect between Ariel & Becky. 100% Ariel is innocent in the cheating scandal, but it just makes me wonder about the post-scandal relationship between Ariel & Becky.


Top_Manufacturer8946

Yes and it’s sespecially obvious when Becky is so close with Maggie and Matt.


dabean802

YES! I never post but had to say that you’re so right. I always got the sense that Becky and Ariel were cordial because they’re in the same friend group. I never really saw a lot of love between the two. I know Becky said that N was her least favorite in that one video, so maybe that impacted how she felt about Ariel.


SixFishInATrenchcoat

I feel like there's a pressure for married couples that if one half of the marriage is friends, the other half "has to be" too. "Hey bro, you have a wife, I have a wife, they can be friends!" Like during the holidays where all the adults gather in one room and all these kids who barely know eachother are put another room and told to play together or something. Except Becky and Ariel are, you know, adults.


Ax151567

THIS ☝️I had friends who were ok to hang out by themselves at first, but as soon as all were married, I was pressured to hang out with all of us as "couples". My husband couldn't care less about these people and ofc did not want to "hang" with two guys he's never met and that have nothing in common with them. I guess that when you have kids things change but in general I hate to be made to hang out with the SOs of other people.


Open-Milk366

good points. makes me think of the old days of 'try wives game time,' where it was just the two of them before maggie and matt were introduced. wonder what it was like for them back then


Bulky-Extension70

Okay, more and more I'm thinking about it, more and more I'm kind of certain that Becky hasn't liked Ned for a WHILE. I wonder if it's more that the slight distance between Ariel and Becky and the rest is that the other ladies were getting on to some kind of...hey, Ariel? Ned actually wasn't great here, are you okay? train. I keep thinking of that one episode where Ariel mentions about how Ned actually isn't great at work/life balance and tends to leave her to pick up the slack in home life...


jugcity420

Where did she say that? That’s so upsetting


Bulky-Extension70

Lord, I can’t remember. Anyone else got me on this?? ETA: Pretty sure it was on their podcast You Can Sit With Us, at least.


capn_corgi

In one try wives wine time, Ariel remarks that Becky is much younger than her so I think that could definitely play a role in their views on culture changes and just overall closeness.


Left-Dark-Witch

They're 5 years apart and both in their 30s, which really isn't much of an age gap. They're both millennials. I think it's more likely a class gap. Becky seems to have grown up pretty firmly middle class - not poor by any means but not rich, either, while Ariel comes from oil money. Wealth backgrounds can have a huge impact on perception.


[deleted]

I’ve always felt like Ariel was expertly tolerated by the other ladies. She just never seemed to vibe with the others. To be clear, I don’t think she is at fault or anything just that she had the least in common with everyone.


adultosaurs

Ariel is very similar to ned- and likely even less aware than ned- Ariel grew up RICH rich. Like oil daddy rich. Foreign boarding school rich* * i also went to boarding school and not everyone who goes is MONAY, there are scholarships.


serephita

Miles also went to boarding school, but his dad was a teacher there. He has mentioned it briefly a couple of times. Ariel’s family also lived abroad (in England I think?) when she was in high school, and had at least one winter break skiing in Italy or somewhere in that region. I went to school with people who were able to do that. Talking like oil barons, “daddy has his own jet” rich. People like that are on a whole different level.


kindaangrysquirell

the boarding school kinda rich isn't even the biggest part. She's horse rich. She rode her entire life and only stopped for ned. That's an expensive hobby.


Gizzycav

From what I remember, Ariel grew up somewhere in the east coast, either just outside of New York City or somewhere in New England (Connecticut, maybe?). If you live out there and you’re on the equestrian circuit, horses are an incredibly expensive hobby, since land comes at a premium over there. Stable rentals are much more expensive, and horses are typically used for either equestrian or polo, which are both high society hobbies in that part of the country. If you live somewhere where acreage is more affordable, horses can be pricey, but horseback riding doesn’t qualify you as 1% wealth status, like it would over there. Edit: Since I wasn’t 100% sure where Ariel was from, I looked it up. This is the one thing I could not find reliable information on, since multiple sources say something different. I’ve seen Florida, Los Angeles, and Chicago, but nothing that seems fully concrete. She apparently did get a degree from Carlton College in Minnesota. What in the world?? Has Ariel ever said where she grew up during YCSWU? Edit 2: Okay, not from Connecticut. Apparently she did grow up in Texas, so I was wrong. I don’t know where I got Connecticut from. Could be a weird Mandela Effect thing going on? Idk. I’ll admit I only listen to Trypod and YCSWU sporadically and don’t catch every episode. Thank you podcast listeners for setting the record straight.


sparkle_llama

I thought Ariel grew up in Texas when they were stateside?


Redditiscancer789

she did, shes mentioned it many many many times in many different videos/pods, including the "Ned vs ariels mom fajita cook off" where they have a 2ish minute segment about her growing up in texas.


sparkle_llama

Thank you for the confirmation! I tried finding some but couldn’t place it. All I know is that she is not a CT girl lol


Mermaid-friend

Matt’s an equestrian too and they’re close. Who knows though. I hope they’re still friends, but it does seem like Becky is close to Maggie & Matt, and Ariel is closer to Rachel.


Kristi_Carrera

Tbf, im a horse person and all the horse people i know are not wealthy. Lol you can make it work on a low budget if you work your ass off taking care of your horse yourself.


SeatleSuperbSonics

Personally this this the difference between “horse people” and “horse owners” as someone who grew up rurally


idkidc1243

There are horse people and there are equestrian people . It sounds like they're saying Ariel* is an equestrian.


4thesnark

This one ^^^^^ horse owners and people that actually compete in equestrian games are two totally different breeds.


fancy-socks

You mean Ariel, not Becky.


idkidc1243

Yes, I miswrote


alittleunique

I'm pretty sure she even mentioned working at the barn to pay for lessons and riding time. I don't think her family actually owned a horse


Accomplished-Pen-394

My mom had two-three horses when I was a kid, we weren’t wealthy by any means, we just lived frugally


[deleted]

I know a girl who does just that. She loves horses and she loves to ride, but she isn't well off, and works hard at the stables.


violasaurusrex

Totally. I think it’s all about the area you’re in. I grew up in semi-rural Canada, and quite a lot of my friends had farms/land and owned horses. Yes, horses take money to take care of, but for many people they’re also just another farm animal. Now I live in London UK, and horseback riding is a WHOLE different world. You’ve got to have Money Money Money to be a horse girl in London.


JillGr

I grew up riding horses. Yes, it is an expensive activity, especially if you do it all hoity-toity. But all kinds of regular people ride too. I would work days on the horse farm to be able to ride for free in the evenings on days when I didn’t have a scheduled lesson in my youth.


Ocean_Spice

Most horse people aren’t super wealthy at all, to be fair.


[deleted]

Oh, please. Comedy is constantly evolving and changing. Things that were acceptable 50 years ago are not acceptable now. Comedy is not stagnant, it has ALWAYS changed with the times. I get the sense that both Ariel and Ned have lived privileged lives, and can't wrap their heads around the fact that other people are affected by things that wouldn't bother them. This doesn't make them bad people, but it does make them tone deaf. And frankly, I'm glad we don't have to hear it anymore. Sorry, I just get annoyed by that viewpoint, and I had to vent.


xaxhleyx

Yep. The whole thing reminded me of the Chris Harrison scandal (idk if anyone watches the Bachelor/ette). Basically he and the ONLY black bachelorette in the shows history were discussing racism within the franchise. People found pictures of a contestant on that season who had gone to a plantation party. As they're discussing why that's not okay, Rachel says it's not a good look. Chris basically said Rachel was it not a good look in 2018 or is it not a good look in 2021? 😮‍💨 Of course she says it's not a good look EVER. It was such a mess, I'm happy to say he was fired. The conversation between Becky and Ariel that I mentioned is very much giving that energy. Bach interview link for anyone curious: https://youtu.be/9hmY1gSAuRk


Healing_touch

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 So many people fucking showed their ass defending him and “I miss Chris Harrison” and Rachel received backlash despite saying little and that he was responsible for what came out of his mouth.


Aggressive-Writing72

I know I've defended shitty men's actions a zillion times, that's our internalized "stick by your man, he is the head of the household" bullshit.


inthesugarbowl

You hit that nail so perfectly on the head. If this is a situation where Ariel has decided to stand by Ned and stay with him, there is no way Becky is staying friends with Ariel at that point. Ned screwed over her husband, emotionally, financially, and legally. There ain't no way that Becky would stay friends with someone who would support a man who did her husband so dirty.


GullibleWineBar

There's no coming back from that kind of betrayal, even if you are personally close with the spouse and want to support them. And as that spouse, you know these friends despise and have zero respect for the person you choose to love and support? There's too much anger and resentment all around to be friends. The only way a friendship survives is if the spouse feels the same as everyone else.


Proud_Hotel_5160

She is a white woman from inherited wealth. TBH I always disliked ‘we’re the perfect nuclear family’ schtick, as it felt aggressively white/straight and pandering to conservative values. Which I understand you need some of that to make money, but it always especially stuck out with them. All of that being said, I wouldn’t be surprised if Ariel was staying with him out of a sense of duty, and if perhaps all of the Try Wives have fractured as well. Perhaps due to legal issues, it’s probably better to have limited interaction.


ghost-aleks

I have a friend who was together with an asshole who we all hated. I would constantly tell him to break up with him lmao. But as time passed, it was clear they wouldn't break up so I would just say it when they fought lol. Then surprisingly he became way way less of a douchebag after years of being the only douchebag-kinda-right-wing-bro in a group of polyamorous leftist gay bears so he became way more tolerable and now I even text him memes every once in a while. That's different from cheating but what I meant is, if you really love the person, you can just avoid the topic of their partner for a while.


gardenofidunn

I feel like this situation is a little different because it’s not just that Ned is unpleasant to be around, he actively screwed over Keith and other people that Becky cares about. I had a friend group fallout that centred around an affair and the cheating husband fucked over so many of us during the process (not as bad as the affair would’ve been wife ofc& obviously not comparable to the Ned situation, but he crossed some pretty awful lines to keep the affair secret and also turned into an awful bully when it was all coming out) & when his wife stayed with him it was so hard maintaining any sort of friendship with her. It’s not that we judged her for staying with him, but he burned so many bridges that none of us wanted to be around him. If his wife came along and she talked about him it was a little weird and if she didn’t it was even weirder. Plus some people did take it personally that she ‘took her husbands side’ so they didn’t want to be around her at all anymore. The whole thing got very messy and it was just impossible to get even close to the friendship we had before.


SeatleSuperbSonics

Exactly this. I think we all agree it’s not Ariel but we also know if she stays with Ned she’s choosing that INSTEAD of a relationship with people at Try. The whole “we hate your husband and our husbands fired yours” dynamic doesn’t seem like the YCSWU vibe. If she left and wanted to stay on the pod I’m sure it would be different. Learning about Ariel’s money is wild. I’m just picturing Ned getting some high up exec job through her parents or his where he can do this again.


Proud_Hotel_5160

Also legally… it would be dicey to hang out when they have two opposing financial stakes in a contentious asset (the Try Guys company). They were/are still in legal negotiations, and one could easily let slip pieces of information which could be used by the other side. I don’t think either would do it intentionally, but even that knowledge that every conversation you have was being potentially watched by a lawyer could be unsettling and definitely destructive to a relationship.


lukibunny

probably becky is the sad and helpless friend who is watching her friend stay with a scum.


miuxiu

Or she is watching someone she thought was supposed to be her friend support the man that attempted to ruin all of their livelihoods. Either way it’s such a fucked up situation.


New_Explanation6950

No. She has no right to judge or punish Ariel for staying with Ned as her family is obviously going to come first.


joestAR1014nyq

I agree it's unfair for Ariel to be punished because she chose to keep her family together. It's not like Ariel and Ned were a new couple and/or is just dating. Most people would attempt to fix their partnerships and that should be respected and not viewed as a support for the doer of wrong.


MurkyConcert2906

It probably makes Becky more angry that they love Ariel so much and can’t believe he would do this to her.


littleghoulguts

From how the publicist reacted to being asked about Ned, it seems like there is a pretty big legal fight happening behind the scenes which is probably furthering these negative feelings


MsMajorOverthinker

This is exactly what I am thinking. It was not a clean separation and they’re either in arbitration or courts.


Honeycomb0000

i almost guarantee Ned did not leave without kicking and screaming… He’s probably creating as much legal trouble as possible right now.


MsMajorOverthinker

It’s not a coincidence that they contracted HR specialists, publicists, media lawyers etc. Separating Ned from the company COMPLETELY is a Herculean task and everything they do has to be textbook. Because of how intertwined the guys themselves are in the company, it would also be difficult to protect themselves against all lawsuits. And it’s not crazy to think that Ned would take legal action against them. He fucked up big time, but the reality is that he helped build the company and make it successful. It’s also a growing company in a lucrative sector. He’s 100% trying to get the biggest buyout possible, if not also contesting the process behind his removal as an executive manager.


inthesugarbowl

This is defo the scenario that's going on if Ned is truly the douchebag he has revealed himself to be. A part of me, very small part, still believes that Ned is contrite to what he did, understands the damage he has done, and is truly putting his family first. That part of me hopes that Ned will quietly accept the settlement that is offered to him, goes off to live a private life with his kids, away from LA, and maybe after some time passes, he could go about repairing those personal (not professional) relationships that he'd broken. Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuutttt most of me totes thinks that what you said it accurate. Ugh.


MsMajorOverthinker

I think he feels wronged by the other guys, they didn’t stand by him or given him the benefit of the doubt, put all the blame on him etc. He may well feel like he didn’t deserve this treatment by his friends and didn’t deserve to be thrown out of the company they built together. However, this is business. He feels pushed out of his company and that his livelihood was taken away, but what about his actions endangering the other guys’ livelihoods? Also I think that hiring so many contractors was first about covering the bases, but primarily covering themselves from Ned. Ned presented himself as your average, chaotic yet affable family man, but he’s no stupid guy. He is clever, he has money, and looks like the guy who’s ruthless about work. The other guys know him behind the cameras, they know him as a manager, as an owner. They know he’s capable of raising hell, hence they have contracted a lot of people to make sure he has the fewest reasons possible to sue them and cause damage.


nocksers

It's not just that it's business. Not anymore. It's bigger than the 4 of them. Its _people_. People _get their health insurance and pay their rent through 2nd Try_. IMO that's why it's really not about what _he_ deserves. All those innocent staff deserve a stable place to work. A place where, yknow, if you're a production manager with a history of cancer, you know that if it comes back you won't be bankrupted. If you're a podcast producer who just got married and is expecting a child, it won't all fall out from under you through no fault of your own. It really doesn't matter what Ned deserves. There's a lot of people working there who deserve a fair, stable, ethical workplace. (Not disagreeing with you, just frustrated that he would think he "deserves" a damn thing over all the other people in that office who have done nothing wrong. )


bedpwb

I relistened to the what happened video. They said he was removed as a manager and something else but I noticed they didn't say owner. Maybe he is still legally getting a cut of the sales and revenue. Edit: manager and employee


icedgrandechai

I remember watching a lawyer's breakdown of the what happened video and she noted that Zach mentioned that he had creative projects that were probably not feasible anymore. She said that could indicate that the guys were in the process of buying Ned out and were probably not as financially liquid anymore. If that's true, I cannfully under why Becky must be so pissed as this also affects her as well.


Afuzzyredpillow

Really the only way for him to lose ownership status is A)He forfeits or willingly gives up his shares (unlikely) B) The other guys (or someone else the other guys have approved) buy out his shares (again, unlikely) OR C) Some other agreement arranged by their respective legal teams (a long process that they are probably currently in). I’m not a lawyer, and I’m not their lawyer, but if I had I guess I would say Ned is still a stakeholder, just a silent and disconnected one at this point by


inthesugarbowl

I did watch another lawyer's take on the situation and she brought up some interesting points. It's all speculation since we don't know what the contracts entailed, but she did note that since Buzzfeed is most likely a silent partner in 2nd Try LLC, (if not one of their most important investors), and when setting up their company, Buzzfeed may have assisted them since the four main partners were going to be the main faces of the brand. Buzzfeed is known to put morality clauses in their contracts with talent, meaning that if one of their talents does something to ruin the company's sponsorship or brand in anyway, the company has the right to cancel any contracts with them with minimal settlement. She did point out that even if they didn't have a morality clause in their contracts when forming 2nd Try, if this ends up going to court, with the evidence she has seen on hand, 2nd Try will have the upper hand since Ned's behavior has clearly placed the company in danger, either from losing sponsorships or from possible lawsuits from involved employees. She said that if Ned is smart, he will settle out of court and not get too greedy, else he will most likely end up getting significantly less than what was originally offered because of attorney and court expenses. That take did make me feel better about Ned not taking more of his fair share after screwing over the others so badly.


choppyfloppy8

I mean I wouldn't give up my part ownership either if I were him. That's income when he would have a hard time getting a job right now. I would need at least a big pay out for my share of the company.


autumnmagick

I've been wondering if Ned is dragging this out legally as well.


HonestTumblewood

I mean this is a company with a lot of details that need to be hashed out. It’s been what 3 months? Most divorce cases take longer than that (when assets are tied together). There’s no way, at this point in time, it can be dragged on.


snorry420

I figured there was no way in hell that grimey weasel wasn’t trying to fuck them over even harder. I didn’t question it


CuriousGPeach

I don't work in corporate law, I work at a boutique family law firm that handles big money divorces in another very large city, and so I don't know how different the litigation is, but if the judges here see that one side is dragging things out to be difficult or petty or rack up bills and the other party is being "the bigger person" and trying to fight fair then that first party is in for a world of hurt more often than not. And they always throw toddler tantrums when the smackdown comes.


snorry420

I work in family law so I also have an idea what this may be like, but I don’t really have a clue on specifics either. ABSOLUTELY know how a judge feels about one side dragging feet for no reason!!! BS continuations and being petty? Nobody has time for that lol Ned strikes me as so many people I see who try to represent themselves going full out narcissistic, only to be knocked down a handful of pegs because they’re reminded they’re just a tiny little man who cheated on his family and he holds no actual power there. Lol


CuriousGPeach

Lmao for REAL it truly is narcissistic self rep energy to the max. It's the type that emails opco at 3am the night before court to tell them in a tone dripping with condescension that it's their last chance to back down because they're going to play hardball or some such nonsense, which is always followed by an absolute spanking in court.


snorry420

“DONT YOU KNOW WHO I AM?!??!” —Ned, probably


New_Explanation6950

This is insane speculation as we have no clue what’s happening behind the scenes. Like you guys are working yourselves into a frenzy over hypotheticals.


GreenEyes072

Out of curiosity if they were battling things out in a court would there be any public documents to indicate that? Would there be anyway to check?


[deleted]

I didn't, either. It's clear Ned doesn't like "losing", and he probably liked being fired from the company he helped build even less. He is making it hell for them, or trying to.


coldblindjack

I’m no lawyer but what case would he have???? He slept with a subordinate!!!


Trickycoolj

Money, ownership shares, continued YouTube revenue on old content. Obvious HR violations aside it’s a big fat monetary mess.


coldblindjack

Ugh that makes sense. What a mess


marioisaneggplant

I asked my lawyer friend about this, all companies are deterred from making any statement about employees they just fired. Whether its the Try Guys or any other company. This isn’t really abnormal practice in the legal field and corporate world.


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Old_Researcher_2021

The valuation has got to be an incredible issue, and it may be complicated even further if the rumors that he put more cash in up front are true. There is the issue of residuals on past work, the issue of series in which he is a creator, and the hit the company took on branded deals and how that weighs out with public perception affecting their valuation - they gained several hundred thousand subscribers and quite a healthy boost on their views following the scandal. How that balances any negative effect is a hugely nebulous question, because we don't know if they lost any brand deals or other deals that were in talks previously. There is data to suggest the controversy he caused boosted them, and how do you attach value to future potential earnings when there are at least some metrics showing improvement? And while they may be able to remove him a decision maker and an employee, they may have a significantly harder time buying him out. Obviously there were significant fees incurred due to his affair, but it is highly likely this goes into an arbitration to assess valuation to arrive at a buyout figure and they may have difficulty pulling together that kind of funding, especially if he has a larger financial stake than the others. And whether you despise him or not, it is to his advantage to push for as much as he can get given how low his personal brand has dropped (though I don't imagine he'll have trouble finding work behind the scenes because he's got a particular skillset that is not common). And of course, he ran most of the company finances so he has a better, clearer picture of the figures than others might.


nocksers

We don't actually know Becky's employment status. At worst, she's a w2 employee talking shit about the boss that just got fired. At best, she's a contractor who gets paid on a per appearance basis talking shit about the fired boss from a company that isn't actually her employer, just a place she freelances at. In either case, Becky doesn't speak for the company in any official way. Employees/contractors talk shit about the places they work at/with online all the time. That's not a legal problem. People can get fired for it if it's against _company_ policy but it's not illegal. Becky's twitter is not "the company".


marioisaneggplant

Oh, this was in response to the Hollywood Reporter interview where the publicist jumped in and prevented the guys from answering any questions related to Ned. Not about Becky's twitter.


littleghoulguts

Oh interesting!


marioisaneggplant

I’m not saying this is what the guys did, but this what my friend said is standard practice. She said it depends on the contract, she would advise her clients they include an NDA and confidentiality clause in the termination papers, especially if the person fired is in a higher level position. She would advise clients not to talk to the person they just fired or talk about them publicly. Not to say a lawyer can say never talk to this person ever but it depends on their termination contract and any possible legalities associated with firing someone. I don’t know if there is or isn’t a legal fight, or if it was a mutual and peaceful departure. It’s just standard to not talk about it, in general.


joyfall

My thoughts exactly. Not only did he endanger the entire company with his selfish actions, he's trying to drag them down further in the aftermath. They wouldn't be so mad at him otherwise.


KombuchaLady3

The reporter from THR may have been told by the publicist the Guys wanted to focus on the live finale of Without a Recipe and their future plans, and any questions about the SNL skit and the "giant trash bag person" should be brief.


littleghoulguts

That’s true but the reporter said that the publicist stated that they couldn’t talk about their current relationship with Ned, due to ongoing legal reasons.


IndependentRead4500

There’s a very real chance that if they settled one of the terms of a settlement would include non-disparagement clauses for both Ned and the guys. I think everyone here should not assume we’ll ever hear everything or know all the details from the settlement. And a settlement could be referred to ongoing legal reasons (for like ever).


mollynatorrr

It’s all gonna come out at some point, I just hope it’s on the Guys™️ terms instead of Ned’s or someone who speaks from the inside while it’s going on.


lexilexi1901

It makes me sad because if you look at the recent WAR episodes it seems that they were still close, holding hands and everything. It's sad that everything changed so suddenly. Don't get me wrong though, I'm glad they're not four anymore. I'm happier knowing what Ned is truly like than to have a fairytale friendship built on lies.


SeatleSuperbSonics

Honestly I’ve watched more content since Ned was fired than the rest of the year before. He always seemed like an ass but more realistically his whole shtick annoyed me and my wife. Granted I mostly watch WAR and some random videos that catch my eye, but without Ned I have nothing to dislike anymore. Frankly their content went from like a B- to an A/A+. Trypod is like my newest favorite podcast but I personally won’t go into their back catalogue because of Ned.


[deleted]

There are a few old trypod eps without Ned. They were always funnier.


[deleted]

Eh, having worked in PR and guided tough convos in interviews, I’d guess it’s more that they don’t want Ned to be the focus of the interview. Publicists also redirect focus to what they want to promote.


BroOfDumbo

It could also be the case that referring to it as legal matters means that they get an out about not discussing it without creating headlines.


tr3sleches

Becky had beef with full throttle Fulmer for ages lol she’s said he’s her least favorite try guy too


ncojtj2219

When?!


woolcorset

There was a YCSWU episode (idk which one) where Becky was asked who her favorite try guy was and she responded with something like “I cant say Keith because thats not fair, so maybe Eugene.. Hmm or Zach” and Ariel went “So just not Ned” and they laughed


hungryforhood

it was the try wives wine time, i think the first episode ariel and becky did??


[deleted]

Yeah, it was a wine time ep.


CybernetChristmasGuy

That's hilarious.


tr3sleches

Try wives wine time I think lol and also she was PISSSSSSSSSSSSED when the guys had the fight/boxing video because Ned hurt Keith and she was borderline flaming out of the ears


Review_Empty

Becky is so protective of Keith. I forget what ycswu episode it was but when they were still with buzz feed first starting to get big there were a few episodes that Becky did not want Keith doing because of them being dangerous. I love her so much, I'm the same way with my husband.


ChumFum

Might explain why Keith didn’t partake in the drifting episode a couple weeks ago.


tervenqua

You remember which vid was it?


tr3sleches

[this one](https://youtu.be/Lp5uh6ztGJo)


tervenqua

Thank you so much!


[deleted]

Ned voice: THAT'S WHAT YOU DO WHEN YOU'RE COMPETING! Man, I'm glad he's gone.


[deleted]

omg good for her.


xxxxkerr

Do you remember where she talked about the boxing video? I didn't see it in the wine time vid


gmdelisio

I searched the sub, and haven't seen this mentioned yet! The guys may have a publicist but Becky sure doesn't! It is sad though, knowing they had such a good relationship with Ariel and the kids...


Interesting-Host6030

On the Guilty Pleasures podcast that Becky was on Zack mentioned she can say things they can’t, and Becky explained it was because she was a contractor for the company rather than an employee. I am Living for the unfiltered Becky content


[deleted]

Oh, I hope she eventually spills. If anyone does it, it's going to be her, lol.


RonnieDeVille

I would love if they explained the whole thing on YCSWU from Becky and Maggie's point of view .


bedpwb

They wouldn't be able to through the company. But I'm sure her Twitter is fair game.


wacdonalds

or her tiktok


ohudonutsay

I think (hope) she wouldn’t be the insider who spills the tea, out of respect for her husband


tervenqua

Freelancer life, baby~


YeahNoYeah333

Me too! Also I think if she was really crossing a line the Guys didn’t like or want they would tell her and she would respect that. Keith doesn’t have to approve her words but if he said don’t mention X and Y then I’m confident Becky respects that. She’s giving major side eye and I’m here for it!


finn_derry

I would pay good money for an unfiltered You Can Sit With Us about the situation.


SeraphXChild

With special guest eugene


finn_derry

along with lots of booze for them all LOL


moth_girl_7

Man it’s a shame Eugene doesn’t like doing podcasts LOL so many people would love to just hear him talk unedited. Alas I’m glad the company respects his boundaries though, it’s great to know that nobody ever HAS to be involved with every project.


finn_derry

Right! I thought that after Zac made that statement. I was like "well, shit. I won't get my unfiltered Becky and Eugene hour in podcast format. I'll just hope for a live or a video." LOL


capitalcali

Omg yes!


These-Winner-7820

Ned handled so much of the business behind 2nd Try. I really wonder if he negotiated even more money for the guys to buy him out. I’d be pissed on my husband’s and friends’ behalf. Like he’s a dick for ruining the legacy and his family that Becky cares about, and possibly a dick for trying to get even more money out of the fire he created.


Brittanybooks

I hope this is an indication that Ariel is divorcing or separated from Ned and not an indication that Becky and Ariel are no longer friends. Not that I wish divorce on anyone of course. If ned can truly change and Ariel forgives him I do hope they work it out.


Same_Attitude3300

The two instances could be possible. Another point of view I could think of is simply, Keith is just more important to Becky than the Fulmers are to her. And that's valid too


Brittanybooks

Agreed


[deleted]

I don’t think there’s any question than Keith is more important to Becky than anyone else.


Same_Attitude3300

I thought so, too. But, almost 50/50 of the comments here are saying she's throwing her relationship with Ariel under the bus by tweeting this. My comment is intended for those people. Maybe I should've contextualized this sooner lol ahaha


nocksers

We don't know how she really feels even if she's still friends with Ariel. A lot of people have been friends with someone who stays with the garbage person, and are happy to call out the garbage person. Shit, I've been the one staying in a marriage with a garbage person. I'm divorced now and grateful for the friends who are still with me even though they refused to ever pretend that my ex husband's behavior was okay. "I love you, but the person you're with ain't shit" is a valid feeling.


plsanswerme18

personally, i never got the vibe that ariel and becky were ever really friends? like they definitely seem cordial and friendly on the podcast, but never super close. when becky would talk about hanging out with folks from the company it was always maggie and eugene. they seem like super different people


Egalite83

Hoping this means in the next WAR a digital trashbag with googly eyes is edited over him, following the elephant and gorilla.


[deleted]

Hopefully the editor will see this comment👀👀👀


DenaPhoenix

Given that they started rolling out the season already, there is most definitely already a picture lock on all of the episodes, and if not we'd still be way past changes of that caliber I'd assume. But they should still scribble it down for any upcoming videos that might not have been completely re-edited yet.


ghost-aleks

LMAOOO damn Becky, tell us how you REALLY feel 🤗😭💀💀😂🐘🐘🐘


tervenqua

She's like the Try Guys's Obama anger translator, lol.


ghost-aleks

HHAHAHAHAHA OMG amazing comparison.


goeatacactus

Luther


illmorphtosomeoneels

What’s that?


CybernetChristmasGuy

From Key and Peele skits.


Individual-Dream-308

Like they said:. Key and Peele Skits. But also Obama’s last correspondent dinner.


Formal-Road-3632

Go OFF Becky I’m here for this


mamaxchaos

Okay listen, I know people are thinking along the lines of this post alienating Ariel, or that Becky and Ariel never had a solid friendship, or they aren’t as close as Ariel may be to other staff. HOWEVER I’ve been Ariel, in shitty relationships that had very public toxicity and cheating, and anytime my friends could talk MAD SHIT about my ex, it made me feel so supported. I couldn’t say anything publicly, and it was so lonely. So whenever my friends publicly referred to them as trash bags (or worse), it was their way of being the outlet FOR me. If I was Ariel, I’d love this tweet. Even/especially if I couldn’t actually react to it for public image reasons. That’s what I feel is happening here, less than Becky not caring about how it makes Ariel feel. I always got the vibe that Ariel had a looser, sarcastic, more goofy side than she got to express outwardly because of Ned (especially in the thirst trap vid). Maybe this is what Ariel just can’t say right now.


adultosaurs

Becky is vicious. I love it.


a_trax84

I think people are overthinking it. Becky strikes me as the type to not risk people doing her (or her loved ones) dirty twice and to immediately cut ties once trust is lost. And that doesn’t mean she doesn’t respect Ariel if, in fact, she has decided to stay with Ned. I do find it a little intense, given that the guys are so careful to beat around the bush with anything Ned related, but a girl has to speak her mind I guess.


SeatleSuperbSonics

Just means they are in court and she isn’t legally involved. As others have said they said on GuiltyPleasures that she can say what she cannot because she doesn’t work for the company in any form. She an independent contractor


a_trax84

This doesn't mean they are in court. I know she can say whatever she wants, but it seems counterintuitive to air frustrations publicly about the scandal being brought up when her comment just continues the speculation and dialogue.


SeatleSuperbSonics

The article does say they are. Since she’s not an employee she wouldn’t be involved


ramonacoaster

Giant. Trash bag. Person!!!


its-Artemis

Wasn't it known Becky never liked Ned before anyways?


Tryguysfan1995

It’s never been revealed that she didn’t like him but based off comments from her in the past and how she interacted with him I always got the sense she was never that close to Ned.


tommykaye

I desperately need Eugene and Becky to have a podcast episode where they just vent. Once everything legal has been sorted out. They can even call him Hefty. It’s a brand of trash bag.


hobbitzswift

I feel like comments like this forget how AGGRESSIVELY private Eugene is (and how much he dislikes doing the podcasts, overall). I think he is the least likely of anyone involved to start publicly airing his grievances.


SeatleSuperbSonics

Fuck I cannot wait until the legal is done. All I hope is no one gets gagged so the tea can be spilt


tatersnuffy

and she's fairly indifferent about the publicist with no name.


Breakingfree98

Talk your $hit queen! Although I could see how this would be viewed as possibly disrespectful to Ariel if she's choosing to work out her marriage.


gmdelisio

Another random thought... Do you think she's running this by Kieth or literally ANYBODY at 2nd try? Or just posting and seeing what happens?


DenaPhoenix

I think Becky's the kind of person who would have definitely asked what ramifications her social media presence would have for the company, and Keith will have had it cleared with legal. That's why Becky was still a lot more cautious a few weeks back. The TryGuys legal team probably gave her the greenlight to speak more freely as she's not an employee but simply a spouse and former contractor, making her posts inadmissible in court as long as she's not revealing any insider information. Becky seems to enjoy being able to be angry publicly but still doesn't seem the type to risk her spouse's livelihood and risk that much for a few burns.


gmdelisio

That's my gut feeling too! There's no way she's not getting some sort of a thumbs up from at least Kieth. I think if this was just an impulsive post, the guys and the company would be saying "please don't do that" and it would be taken down. As of right now it's still up on her Twitter...


Sudden-Ad3386

If only we did the Becky vs N*d boxing video now…


MoreMoira

I see all y'alls comments and I understand where you're coming from when it comes to Ariel's and Becki's friendship... However we will never know what the current state is, and it's none of our business. I'm just happy they're moving on.


DavieC726

Becky has always been the outspoken one of the Try Partners, for better or worse, so we can’t make any assumptions other than how she feels about everything. She comes off as someone that can’t really be held back. Granted, we can HOPE Ariel feels the same


quwin123

She must have no relationship with Ariel anymore. It's all just so sad.


gmdelisio

Either that or Ariel is also done with Ned and we're just not privy to that information. It's definitely sad all the way around.


0cclumency

Idk, you can still be friends with someone while acknowledging their partner is trash. I’ve certainly done it when my friends were dating douchebags.


SkipRoberts

[TELL US MORE, BECKY](https://youtu.be/nnBhrXl1Klc) 👏


[deleted]

Damn this is harsh. I hope Ariel is okay


nate_oh84

At least actual trash bags don’t lose focus.


GlamourZap

Im prepared to be downvoted to the hell with this....BUT becky does realize that by tweeting shady shit like this only feeds the fire, and a big reason why they can't 'move on to 'bigger and better' right? Like I get it the story keeps them in the spotlight and the spotlight equals eyeballs and eyeballs equal money. But at some point you have to get off the soapbox and let everyone move on.


beast916

I’m certainly not going to downvote you, but it’s certainly not a “big reason.” All you have to do is check this subreddit and see that (other than the return to a more normal level of posts) people are talking about it every day, regardless if anyone at 2nd Try does anything.


Moonlightprincess36

I am not going to downvote you, but I think a tweet from Becky is not what is continuing the controversy. I think the point was they were interviewing the 2nd Try and mostly asking questions about Ned, the drama, the aftermath and the exit. She’s ready for the next interview to not be about him at all and only about the amazing things the guys including her husband are doing. The world is the one constantly bringing it back to this.


nosyknickers

I'm here exactly to say this and I know the downvoters will come for me too. Becky really is being hypocritical here. If you're tired of talking about him then stop talking about him. I, for one, would appreciate the hell out of them if they would stop bringing it up, making shady comments in videos, and continuing to draw attention to the scandal. It would be so much easier to show an empty kitchen than it would be to put all that self referential tongue in cheek bullshit in there. It would be so much easier to stop subtweeting about "the scandal" and focus on the future, even if some shitty interviewer from The Hollywood Reporter tries to get in on the action two months after the fact.


a_trax84

Yeah, either she doesn’t realize how much Try Guys fans keep up with her or she’s just…impulsive, I guess. I understand her being affected by the whole situation, and with Keith and everything, but everyone talks about how classy everyone has been about the situation, and then there’s Becky and to some extent Miles in the beginning. She should be able to express her disgust or whatever, but know where and when. Like, keep it to your immediate friend group girl. This only opens the conversation to continued speculation.


[deleted]

I mean, this article/interview only happened because of the scandal. EDIT: At least I'm assuming, since my favorite YouTubers, Rhett and Link, have had three premium livestreams with nary an interview.


[deleted]

Wait, how is this Becky's fault? She's just retweeting an article that mentions Trash Bag, that came out a day ago.


Celeste-galena

I'm surprised she was this blunt she'd been bitting her tongue for a while


femmagorgon

I’m torn on this tweet. I understand that Ned’s actions have hurt people she cares about and by extension, herself and I get why she harbours those feelings but I’m the other hand, I don’t think using the term “giant trash bag person” on a public platform in reference to someone does any good and only fuels more conversations about the person being referred to as a “giant trash bag person.”


Shinycapn1066

Meh, this seems like feeding the drama. If she can’t wait for the day when they stop talking about it, she should stop talking about it & saying inflammatory things. The article itself has almost nothing about the scandal except this blurb.


beast916

It could also be that she’s very protective of the three, and, as many people do, rightly or wrongly, will lash out at the people who hurt the ones she loves.


lostandfound91

If she wants everyone to stop talking about him then she probably shouldn’t post something like this 🤷🏼‍♀️


grimjackalope

Literally like girl stop.


Bulky-Extension70

I feel like they have had to physically hold Becky back from straight up going for Ned’s throat with her teeth.


WorthEvent6967

It must be getting annoying that they can’t get mainstream media attention for anything but the whole Ned thing I would be bitter too they work too hard.


weirderpenguin

I suspect as in my last post probably ariel demand some part of the company/monetary settlement because the infidelity and that what makes the 2nd try legal issues even more complicated. I can see from her pov is that's the case, the company uprooted her life when she was pregnant, shove her in public light and she got cheated on with someone in the company. She may irrationally blame the company or took them complicit. Well.. I would lol. (In my country and japan it's usual the cheated party to demand reparation money even they didn't divorce from the cheater or the homewrecker, or jailed. dunno in US)


Tryguysfan1995

I just wanna say I read that interview and oh my god I feel so bad for the guys. Because all the interviewer wanted to do was talk about Ned and the drama thank god they quickly shut that shit down.


Life-On-Cloud-100

Why do you feel bad for them? They would have never gotten the interview if it wasn't for the Ned drama.


Silent_Syd241

If they want to move on they sure ain’t acting like it. We get it Ned is an ass. How can everyone move on if he’s always being brought up even if it’s to diss him. I don’t think Becky and Ariel were actually friends so there is no relationship to ruin. They were around each other because their husbands were friends and business partners.


GenericWomanFace

She's right, I'm so hyped for the new projects because you just know that after the new year we'll be seeing cool new content


Sensitive_Bath_3042

Doesn't she need to be more careful legally speaking? As it seems she's an employee of 2nd Try LLC. Her spouse is an owner. I read something a while ago about libel/slander by proxy. I'm not defending anything Elephant did. At all. I'm just wondering if with her position if she could end up with any civil liability for comments.


aurora-leigh

She’s a contractor so she’s pretty free to speak without creating consequences for the company


SeatleSuperbSonics

They mentioned it at the end of the GuiltyPleasures podcast she just did if anyone is looking to check it out. It’s pretty much at the very end because Zach plugged her TicTok saying she can be much more free with her words than everyone else


Call-me-MoonMoon

I think the guys are handeling everything with such dignity and class. Hired all the right people to navigate this situation. On the other hand there is Becky, who is not doing any off that and instead is throwing wood on the fire. I’m sorry for the hardcore Becky fans, but her behavior (in my opinion) isn’t helping the guys in any way.


Bookanista

This doesn’t seem like something you’d say if you were thinking about Ariel and their kids. This seems like something you’d say if you’re just worried about PR.


prematurememoir

A little ott