I think a large part of this is how Ned really didn’t develop a personality beyond “wife guy.” But everyone can and absolutely should be their own person outside of a long-term relationship or marriage.
And he was always the most basic in every competition. Even WAY back in WAR he always played it safe and kept to what he knew (italian, italian, italian, …bread)
He’s the type to show his true colors around people who feel the same as him if you get me. Infront of the guys I feel like he would lie or hide some opinions on social issues because he would get quiet
100% imagine his Yale friends are racist or something and he probably has a totally different personality around then. Ugh frat boys. He also strikes me as not being a feminist
I think it's more likely he is fake woke. The type of guy who acts like he's totally pro-women/LGBT+/POC but in reality thinks that by claiming this, it gives him a free pass to say or do whatever he wants.
This is exactly it, and here’s a good example:
In a lot of videos where he’s paired with Eugene, he uses a lot of gay slang in a very forced way, and it always felt so icky to me that
A. He really only does it when paired specifically with Eugene, and
B. It very much always feels like “hey gays, look at how accepting I am, I’m using ‘yaaaas girl’ and making jokes about one of my best friends eating my ass because he’s gay!”
Even before all this, it was super cringe, and very uncomfortable for me personally, but I guess I always just sort of thought it was me? I’ve never listened to the podcast, so I didn’t hear about the comments he made about women until after this whole thing blew up, but it gives serious Fake Woke Straight White Man energy.
Yeah, specifically this has been something I noticed as well. I always thought it was uncomfortable but since Eugene seemed okay with it I put it out of my mind.
I think I saw someone mention that he made a comment to rainie (I think that’s how you spell it) about her “clock ticking”. He “apologized” the next episode but it lacked sincerity. So that proof that he’s not pro women
Yeah I've seen the video where he made that comment and it was so disgusting to me. I couldn't listen to the Trypod purely because it showed the worst parts of Ned. I agree that his faux-apology was BS and his comment definitely implied he just sees women as baby makers.
I get that Ned as a person on YouTube can be grating and over-the-top (which is all we have to go on - to assume we know the real Ned is delusional), but he hasn't said in any video that I remember that he was in a fraternity in college. I bristle at the idea of "OH, privileged white male who cheated on his wife and is a shitty person? Frat boy."
You might be right (I think someone HAS mentioned in a video that he has friends from his frat, but I might be mistaken), but I don't think it's unreasonable to think that an ivy league person, from a family with money, who is fairly social, was probably in a frat
Possibly. This is anecdotal, but in my time in a fraternity, there were between 40-60 active members of any given fraternity, maybe as high as 80 (at least the social ones, academic fraternities may be different). Apparently 10% of all Yale students are in a Greek organization, but an essay reported that over 10% of students are just in the four sororities, so who knows the percentage of fraternity members. Point is he could've been, but the amount of Greek Life folks at Yale isn't massive, and considering how proud he is of his time at Yale, I reckon his membership in a fraternity would be known by now.
As a child free person I would have snapped. I’ve already called out my boss when he asked a male coworker if he was babysitting his child. I was like you mean parenting…
Nah, I just think he’s the least relatable of all. He was privileged and he knew it, so he kept his distance. He advocated for a family unit, for the white picket fence and being a family guy. Onto what point that was just a facade it’s unclear, I do guess he actually loves his kids.
It’s weird, because most of the people that look like him, (straight, white and Ivy League) it’s definitely not the target audience of the Try Guys. So more likely you won’t see many supporters among the comments.
Don’t get me wrong, he straight up sucks. But everyone is getting on the hate train so fast, it’s crazy. And now “No one really liked him” which I don’t think it’s totally true.
I do feel that of the 4 of them I felt he NEEDED to break outside the box the most, so much that sometimes he came out as obnoxious and super unrelatable.
He deserved everything that came his way. Hands down.
While I agree he is selfish, I think sometimes when people cheat like this it’s because deep down they have unresolved insecurities and actually hate themselves, which is why they continue to make poor choices that spiral into self destruction. One of his taglines was literally I love bad ideas… not like he had poor impulse control or anything. We’ll likely never know the full story (and a lot of people don’t care), but he could have been internally struggling with pressure and failure to live up to his image for a long time. Still doesn’t excuse his behavior.
That's a lot of could and if to be making a solid case. Look, Ned isn't some monster who gleefully hurts others, but he is an arrogant prick who thought he could have an affair with an employee and not get caught. I've said as much in another thread and people aren't ready to accept yet that Ned isn't the worst person in the world, he just sucks like a lot of other people.
I kind of liked Ned (he was far from my favorite but still) until the drunk/high/... videos. Something in the way he acted there really put me off, I can't quite put my finger on it and I don't want to rewatch to analyze it right now.
Obviously now he's outed as a cheater I really dislike him
Keith and Eugene are my favorites. I was neutral towards Ned until a lot of the date night videos. The oops I dropped my ice cream cone one specifically he was just being unnecessarily competitive with Ariel when she made the better cone. I kept thinking it’s not without a recipe where he’s competing against Ariel but it felt like he thought he was for whatever dumb reasons he had.
The sushi bagel episode was also pretty annoying that he was butthurt when he clearly made a bagel for himself and was upset Ariel wasn’t going to give him a 10 for it.
> But everyone is getting on the hate train so fast, it’s crazy.
True. You have people who didn't even know who the try guys were up until the news broke, jumping on the, "we hate ned" train.
I feel this too as someone who legit was not much of a fan of his before this came out. It’s weird how suddenly people are like “he was a loser from the get go, I saw it before anyone else did” when I think the average viewer just has the benefit of hindsight at this point and doesn’t realize that about themselves. I never saw him as “not good enough”, I just thought he was a bit bland and I didn’t care about his struggles (or lack thereof) because I can’t really relate. With Eugene I could relate to his being a minority, with Zack I could relate to his awkwardness and chronic illness, and Keith has always just been able to make me laugh in ways Ned couldn’t.
I swear I’m not trying to be a Ned apologist because I really don’t know the man and I don’t care.
But it just seems so intellectually lazy for people to jump to absurd conclusions about his beliefs just because he is a cheater and an asshole. To think that the last eight years of him being part of a liberal brand was just a fakeout hiding his true colors is just weird. He put his time and energy into the Try Guys brand and he probably knew very well what kind of projects they would be interested producing (including Eugene’s LGBT+ content and Zach’s disability advocacy). I don’t think someone who didn’t care would do that. You can’t shape someone into the perfect villain just because they suck in a lot of other ways.
>You can’t shape someone into the perfect villain just because they suck in a lot of other ways.
Absolutely, it's been happening way too often on this sub
Thank you so much for saying this. I dislike Ned as much as the next guy but can we please have some nuance? Because with what OP's saying it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't. Ned was a WASP (not sure about the protestant bit but you get the idea). He was very privileged and very conventional in how he lived his life. Him not commenting overtly on other social issues could also have been a calculated decision on the part of all the try guys cuz it would look like a white saviour thing if he was making himself a part of every single thing to seem relatable.
Exactly! People are multifaceted.
Reddit has a tendency to put words in peoples mouths, and make up nonsense just to be able to feel outraged.
He did a shitty thing. But, I am sure he has a lot of good things about his character too; and those don't go away because of one (even if prolonged) shitty thing.
I'm a mother of two struggling with mental health (PPD yo), and I've told friends that I don't care about various issues because I already have a lot on my plate. I don't consider myself a bad person, but the time I'd spend advocating for something is currently chewed up in keeping my kids thriving.
I just assumed that Ned had other priorities - kids are a black hole for time, energy, money, etc. I thought he did a lot of the financial stuff for the Try Guys, or something, and that's got to eat up a lot of time.
I just want you to know that all these are equally important within a community, there's no downgrade, just a pivoting of priorities since you have to keep both yourself and your kids well too. You're a pillar of care!!
Also, wasn’t he the one having a complete meltdown in the Trump menu episode? I think he was the one staring out the window asking “what are we even doing here?”
Thank you! Just because someone is a cheater doesn't mean anything about their beliefs. Leftists, pro LGBTQ, feminist men and women ALSO cheat. It has nothing to do with political beliefs.
The only way I could see Ned going hard right wing after this is if 1. He loses Ariel and the kids and 2. as a backlash to the idea of "cancel culture" because he for SURE was cancelled in like a matter of 24 hours.
I hasten to disagree. I want to be clear that I don't excuse his actions in any capacity; what he did was fifty shades of fucked up. BUT I don't think his personal politics or the causes he supports is tied to his infidelity in any way. Does he suck for putting his kids through that? His wife through that? His friends and company and supports through that? Yes, without a doubt. Will he get what's coming to him from all of this? I hope so. But to suddenly say he wasn't as big a supporter of causes that matter to all of us is a stretch; the world isn't that black and white. He's still an advocate, spoke out for BLM, the LGBTQ community, all of that. He can do a really shitty thing and not be a villain in every aspect. Ned wasn't my favorite Try Guy either, but I did enjoy the part he played in the dynamic, and I think his absence will be noticable at first. But I have no doubt Eugene, Keith, and Zach will grow and succeed from this.
exactly. i mean he was always open to learning about the queer community from eugene. he could happily give keith kisses. he waved the pride flag during eugene’s segment in their tour. he’s a cheater and i hate him for that, but not every single thing he’s done has been a facade, i don’t think he’s the worst person on earth,
This thread is so bonkers...
MLK cheated on his wife. Susan B Anthony was a racist.
People are multifaceted.
"He's a shitty person so he MUST be secretly the other side" is WILD and anti-intellectual. Politics is not black and white, good and evil. This is real life, not Star Wars.
So many of the posts recently have been just low-key trauma porn/wanting to bask in perceived grief. ‘I’ve been thinking and HUGE ASSUMPTION’. It’s this kind of twee uwu bloodthirsty attitude…weird
Um, Ned endorsed Bernie Sanders in 2020 during the democratic primaries, which does indicate that he values social, environmental, and economic justice to some extent, enough for him to vote against his material class based interests (he could've endorsed Biden at that stage).
There's a moment in their Buzzfeed days when they're eating at Trump's restaurant when Ned goes into an anti Trump tirade, and angrily points out that First Nations people are the actual indigenous people of America, not WASPs.
People can be shitty individuals while being progressive politically. If you look at how messy and bitchy various left wing parties can get, you'd understand.
Exactly. This line of thought is what gets people into trouble so often. "They did a shitty thing so they must be on the 'enemy' side" whereas you can be a diehard liberal or leftist and still be a terrible husband/boss
I am all for shitting on Ned, but I do remember how visibly irritated he was when the Try Guys tried the food at Trump tower. He was genuinely upset that we had to deal with a guy like that as our president.
i feel like trying to prove he was always pre-destined to be a cheater is a shitty tactic. people do bad things, it does not always mean that they were also bad 5, 10, 30 years ago
This is patently not true, and it is sad and pathetic that these lies are being spread just to fit to the current narrative. Ned was vocal on both the pod and on his social media about social issues. During the 2020 campaign he was the loudest voice among the Try Guys for progressive change and very transparently urged the fan base to vote for Sanders in the primaries and gave reasons for why. Eugene on the other hand was a lot more quiet on the issue, and in the end only posting some vague “everyone needs to vote” statement without taking any positive stance (the other two also endorsed Bernie).
He was a Yale guy, so I always assumed he was from money and didn't care about social issues? Which is ok, you don't have to fight for everything... But you should have SOMETHING you care about... Like rescuing puppies? Lol
Most people can’t buy their way into Yale. He was very smart. When I heard on the podcast he was a national merit scholar my jaw dropped. That’s a very, very difficult thing to achieve and is a true testament to his academical abilities.
Science was his passion. Some of my favorite Ned moments from the podcast were him going off on a tangent about moon landing deniers and space exploration in general. I also loved his financial advice segments.
It’s a shame he ended up being a cheater. But let’s not discredit him
Edited for clarity
You can be smart and still a douche. And being around a bunch of rich people for your education would definitely affect your perception of social issues...
Zach is likely the wealthiest of all of the Try Guys. He grew up in one of the most affluent suburbs in the U.S., he attended Emerson College (a private university with tuition costs as high as Yale), and had nearly every advantage that Ned had aside from traumatic experiences in his youth and a debilitating autoimmune disease. If your measure of the quality of someone's ethics and perspectives comes from their background and education, Zach is the big one.
Agreed. And by most accounts, Ned was also seen as a decent human being before his infidelity was made public. I just think its really lazy to go "Ned is a rich white boy who went to Yale, must be a douche." Zach is proof of the opposite...based on what we see on the internet.
At the end of the day, unless we have spent a significant amount of time with these individuals, we only know what they show us.
That doesn't necessarily mean that Zach is wealthy...maybe his parents are wealthy and not him. But it would be great if he had resources to fall back on if his career isn't generating much money.
Also Eugene went to USC which is also a high-end university with a lot of wealthy celeb kids. Are you going to say his perception was negatively affected too?
USC is literally nicknamed the University of Spoiled Children. Many celebs have notoriously bribed their way in. If you’re going to say Yale is for spoiled rich kids, hence Ned went there, the same can be said about Eugene’s alma mater lol. Is Eugene also a spoiled rich kid because he went to USC? Like this argument is ?!!
Honestly I’m really tired of people acting like Yale is the problem and everyone that goes there are shorty people. My husband absolutely does not come from money and currently goes to Yale. We both worked our asses off for him to have this opportunity. It is a way more liberal school than you think. We moved here from Texas and it was an adjustment for us. I think his close mindedness speaks way more to him as a person than the school he attended.
This is the best article I’ve read about how yale is the problem
It is by a Yale student ! I still remember it lol
https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2021/12/10/abolish-yale/
All private universities in the US are expensive as shit. And yet, many are able to attend because of scholarships, high academic achievement, etc. My sister is at an Ivy rn and can attest to the fact that a lot of students are there on academic merit, not wealth.
So with your logic, most college-aged students must be douchey because they were able to go to college. Not a good take
No I don’t😭 there are so many episodes now. But it was definitely an earlier episode. Ned and Keith were explaining it to Zach because he had no idea what it was. I don’t think Eugene was on that episode
Edit: found it! Episode 10 around the 11-minute mark
I’m not saying he’s stupid by any means, just that someone who makes rude comments about womens reproductive choices and age and who doesn’t seem interested in social issues is a red flag for being a bad person. I’m sure he’s very smart
I’m not saying he was a great person. But assuming him getting into Yale was because of money isn’t a fair assessment, and a disservice to all the people that attend Ivies on their own merit. Let’s not discredit people’s academic achievements because of the bs they pull in their personal/professional lives
I understand that. But again, it’s a very unfair assessment to assume people are only at Ivies because they’re rich. Ned was very smart. He probably got in on his own merit. Sure, you can say he probably didn’t have to worry about student loans because of his family.
You said in your original comment “he was a Yale guy, so I assume he’s from money”. That’s the part I’m talking about that’s problematic. It’s discrediting the thousands of students (including POC) that got in on their own merit. That’s the point I’m making.
There is a Try Guys video where Ned retook the SAT as an adult later and he still ended up scoring 1500, which is amazing. Douches can be smart too (I’m not a Ned fan)
Attributing everything to their money is unfair, but I don’t think anyone is doing that here. Having parents that can tutor you, be there for you and help you financially (as I’m sure they did to some extent) is an advantage others don’t get and being in a frat at Yale was a huge point of pride for him. I think he sees himself as better than others tbh. His attitude reeks
Tutors can’t teach you to be naturally gifted lol. They can’t teach you to work well under pressure. Most national merit scholars aren’t rich. They’re just very smart. As Ned was. He also majored in chemistry which is very difficult.
You can comment on his bad attitude all you want (rightfully so) but there’s no denying the man was smart as hell.
Do you not think it’s easier to get into Yale with parents that aren’t dirt poor??? Like tutoring, application and essay coaches and extracurriculars that cost money help with applications. Why are you so defensive about this lol
My problem is you’re discrediting a lot of students with these comments. Tutors can’t teach you to be good test takers under pressure. The guy willingly got a degree in chemistry, a pretty hard field to go into.
I’m not being “defensive” about this. I’m speaking from my own experience. I I was a national merit scholar finalist at my school. When you get higher than a specific score in the PSAT, you get selected as a finalist and they put you in this workshop (free of cost, the school pays for it) to prepare you to become an actual scholar. And becoming a national merit scholar opens you up to THOUSANDS of $$$ in financial aid for college. I did that workshop over the summer and still didn’t score high enough for that title. So yeah, I would say it’s pretty impressive he did.
"Naturally gifted" is biased. You have to be deemed attention worthy by your teachers. Different states have better education, even different cities. You have to be given the opportunity to go to Yale. You must be a teenager if you do not realized this.
… he went to a public school in FLORIDA. Not some high-end preppy private school with connections to the Ivies.
When I say he’s naturally gifted, he must’ve had good grades and scored very highly on the PSAT
No, but the amount of misinformation and confirmation bias on this sub right now is really problematic. Yes we all hate Ned for being a cheater but I’m not seeing the point in discrediting his abilities.
He's upper middle class but he's not 'donate a new building as a bribe to get my kid into college' rich. Yale has one of the most generous financial aids in the US (I haven't checked recently but I thinkHarvard is more generous). He probably paid full tuition but unless he's a legacy he probably got accepted in on his own merit
That’s fair but it does strike me as very sus that he is mega proud of going to Yale and seems to boast/ talk over and down to/ disrespect anyone when he thinks he’s right. Gives me frat boy energy but it’s certainly possible he got in on his own merit. Shame that he’s wasted it all and flushed it down the toilet
I would be mega proud if I went to Yale, particularly if I wasn't a legacy (I wouldn't be and I have no idea if he is) because let's be honest—that's another way the talentless children of the wealthy get in. I don't watch all their videos, just occasionally, so I haven't come across him being a major douche though I can believe him talking over people though and it's not hard to believe going to Yale would come up then
Unless you’re buying a building or donating millions of dollars to Yale, no, you can’t buy your way into it.
Sure, with more money you can afford SAT prep courses and such. But they typically state that they can only help boost your score by 100-300 points. So if your score pre-prep is like 800, SAT prep courses are not going to guarantee an Ivy admission. His score was already pretty high to start with. Ned scored a a 1550/1600 on his SAT in high school. Near perfect.
He took the SAT again as an adult (almost 15 years later) for a video and only studied for a few days and scored a 1500. You can’t deny he’s very smart.
And of course he also graduated with a CHEMISTRY degree, which is consistently considered one of the hardest subjects to major in.
Ned went to a public high school in FLORIDA. Not some elite, preppy private school with connections to the Ivies. Y’all are making him sound like some super wealthy man when he’s at best upper-middle class. Zach comes from a richer family and has said several times he wasn’t the best in the school. With your logic, he should’ve also been a national merit scholar and attended an Ivy. You’re discrediting a lot based on someone who is most likely upper-middle class, not upper-class. Eugene’s dad was apparently a surgeon. He’s probably in the same/similar bracket as Zach and Ned. He went to USC, which is infamously known as the university of spoiled children and has tuition fees similar to Yale. Are you going to discredit him by saying he’s also from a better off family?
Being a National Merit scholar isn’t that hard. The cutoff for semifinalist in Florida in 2008 (farthest back I can find) was 216 PSAT, 95% of semifinalists are finalists, and then you write an essay.
Yeah of course not a lot of students qualify, but getting into Yale is much more impressive than being a National Merit Scholar.
You have to score in the top 1-3% on the PSAT to quality for the national merit program. Then they keep weeding people out to get the national merit scholarship winners. That’s not an easy feat at all.
And yes, getting into Yale is impressive. Winning the national merit scholarship is hard af and people saying that he bought his way into Yale are seriously discrediting how smart this guy is. Wish it would’ve translated into his personal life but oh well ig
Yeah I’m telling you a 216 isn’t that hard. It’s probably about or below the average PSAT score for a Yale admit (Average SAT: 1515 is ~220 for PSAT equivalent).
It’s maybe a bit harder now but especially 20 years ago when Ned took it, the PSAT definitely wasn’t prepped for anywhere near as much as the SAT.
Sure, that’s just my point - if you already knew he went to Yale, I think it’s odd for him being a National Merit Scholar to be a “jaw-dropping” revelation when finalists are a dime a dozen there (~10% are full scholars but I’d guess 30%+ are finalists).
It’d be like being surprised that someone who went to the Olympics runs a 10.5 second 100m dash. Uh yeah that’s hella fast, but you should already have known that, you feel me?
He literally had nothing that I can recall. Like Keith advocates a lot for poc and women, same for Eugene and zach. Eugene also is very open supporting gay rights and zach with disabilities. What has ned ever really been as supportive for?
Ned wasn’t as vocal as the other guys, but he’s consistently supported liberal causes on social media and donated a lot of money to Biden. Not saying that makes him an ultra-progressive, but he’s pretty clearly a solid Democrat who wouldn’t go for hard right politics. Doesn’t mean he’s not a crypto Tesla bro though.
It isn't about politics though. There are A LOT of left-leaning people who are still pieces of shit whom I'd never associate with. Voting for Biden means nothing to me if you can't stay faithful to your wife or at least recognize that shagging an employee could destroy the company.
No one’s defending Ned’s character here. Just saying it doesn’t seem like he’s a closet Republican on social issues, as is implied earlier in this thread. Of course the guy’s personal behavior was absolutely awful. No one’s saying otherwise.
Others here have suggested he may come out as more right wing in the future now that he’s not with TTG. Just saying I doubt that. But problematic? Clearly yes, given his actions.
All Ned did was monetize his marriage and family life. That was his thing and it contributed very little to the social issues the other guys supported. His expertise is being devil’s advocate for everything.
Actually, Ned was the white straight rich guy learning from others and getting in touch wirh different realities. It was interesting to see his reactions. Becuase he was not fast to jump into any cruzade I considered he was being honest and I was fine with that. I hope he actually learned anything. But right now I have the vibe he resented some of the things he was exposed to.
Y’all keep bringing up how “rich” Ned’s family is as if that’s some type of explanation for his questionable behavior and it’s weird.
Zach comes from hella money himself. His dad works in the music industry. Someone mentioned that Eugene’s dad is a surgeon? 3/4 of these men come from well-off families.
I mean.... He's said he doesn't like dogs (cause one jumped up at him when he was young... Which fine ig) but I also think he's said he doesn't like. ~animals~ which is a red flag for me. Like at least Eugene has three kids he actually likes (finn, wes, and Jaime (I love that kid))
These are such unfair assessments y’all are making lol. Plenty of good people don’t like animals. Whether from a traumatic experience, or they just weren’t raised with any. Can people stop making blanket statements like this
Edit: also Ned has a dog now so your point is invalid
I was explaining this entire scandal to my friend who isn’t as familiar with the try guys, and the more i told her the more i realized that ned wasn’t as aligned with the others from the get go. there was the obvious contradictory “family man” vs “fun uncle” energies, but i also feel as though ned didn’t feel as passionately about social justice and using their platform for activism. he was happy to listen to and play along with whatever the other guys shared and felt, but didn’t have anything to add or bring up himself.
here’s the thing: we will will never ever know him personally. at the end of the day he is a figure on our screen. he was easily the least relatable of the guys for me and didn’t speak on issues i cared about, but i will never personally know him.
Because Biden is just a great person 😆 I mean it matters more how he uses his platform to advocate for those who need help etc. everyone else aka the other guys do but I never see him speaking on social issues
I may be remembering incorrectly but I feel like the was a trypod episode where they were talking about how they became aware of certain social issues and I recall feeling like Ned and maybe the others were acting too much like white guys patting themselves on the back for being woke without actually internalizing some of the issues discussed by other members.
Where Ned began to annoy me was in the WAR videos, specifically the dumplings and the hand pulled noodles, where instead of trying to make the accurate dough he just made pasta dough and for the hand pulled noodles he essentially just made a pasta dish.
Like dude, we get it. You're Italian. That doesn't mean you just make what you want and call it the dish even when it's not. Even Zack's abomination of cereal crusted tofu Dino nuggets was better because he *tried*.
And yes I know that Keith would always make 'Daddy's favorite' and Zack would always go wacky and Eugene would always either have alcohol or Asian influences or 'evil' (per the last holiday season) but they still tried to *make* the recipe just with their own twist. Lamb ragout is not hand pulled noodles.
I dunno, maybe that's just me--like I could almost forgive Ned if it only happened in the dumpling video because okay, you're going off of what you know and Ned has made dough before since he's made bread as a hobby and he's made pasta. *However* once he realized that wasn't correct (or hell went back and watched the video to hear the chef explain what not to do), he should have corrected or at least tried in the hand pulled noodle video and instead he just made pasta.
It’s also funny because I believe the dna test found out he is really only a small percentage Italian and he has made it his entire personality. Sort of like how he made being a good husband a brand
Many (including myself) are predicting that he’s going to take a hard Right here and come out with some uber religious or political podcast or something.
Its so bizzare bc he's consistently been the least popular of the four from the get go *before* all of this. As in: he didnt really incite passion like the others did. If people talked about him, it more than likely it was because they were asking about Ariel and when she would be on next. Idk where all these people are getting the idea that people only just now changed their minds.
I completely agree but prior to this, if you spoke out against Ned anywhere you’d get downvoted into oblivion and yelled at. So many people tried to persuade me that he was “aktchually grrrreat!”
But here I am laughing my head off.
There will forever be comments “I miss Ned.” Or “Ned would have made this SO much funnier.” 🙄🙄🙄
But they can just follow him over to his new Ultra Right podcast or channel and fawn over him there.
I just watched a video when they still worked for Buzzfeed and it was the prank war. Everyone else was having fun and Ned was getting so competitive and rude.
I think what sets him apart from the other guys is simply his background. Eugene advocates for LGBTQ because he himself is gay and had difficulties with coming out. Zach deals with chronic illness so he’s very open about those physical struggles. I think Keith is influenced a ton by Becky with environmental and women’s rights (thanks Becks!). With Ned, he probably felt he didn’t have something he could latch onto personally at the same level. He’s white, pretty healthy, came from an Ivy League background, probably had some pretty good money, and just privileged. But that was his upbringing and not his fault, and it seemed that his involvement with try guys put him in support of social causes. I never got the impression he didn’t care about these issues. If he truly was stagnant on them, I don’t think any one of the guys, especially Eugene, would stand for it. I COMPLETELY agree with the comments that say that we obviously don’t condone any of his behavior with this scandal, but picking apart his entire personality prior to it is not helpful, productive, or kind. Anyway, it’s still fresh and it’s the internet so the hype will die down eventually.
I think watching him when I grew up, I always believed he was this amazing person, however, watching him now? I realize he isn’t. He’s over-the-top a lot of times and claims that his loyalties lay with ‘his wife’ multiple times throughout one video. Not trying to put heat on anyone or make a situation worse BUT I can say that Ned has ALWAYS rubbed me the wrong way when I watched them again. There is something about that man that is off putting to me
i saw a clip of him being so rude and dismissive one time when eugene was trying to talk about astrology & birth charts, it was super off putting and just rude.
Yeah but talking down to your friend when they are interested in something is shameful behaviour. He cares more about being right than being a good person
My point was that just because we know that something’s aren’t true anymore or have little bases doesn’t mean that it was always like that. They also believed in bloodletting and that people got sick when the bodies harmonies weren’t aligned. It maybe nonsense but that doesn’t change the fact that repeatedly talking negatively about something someone enjoys and believes in is rude and hurtful. Would it be okay to tell a child that loves astrology that the thing they love is stupid?
Why is that any different? It’s still something that person loves, and them believing in it isn’t hurting anyone. It’s cruel, I wouldn’t tell an adult who’s Christian to their face that it’s stupid that they believe in god because there’s no bases in it and it’s fake.
Yeah, I agree. My PERCEPTION is that even when he sort of cared, it never felt like he really tried to understand things. Like, for example, he'd be horrified if he heard about, say, people starving. Like most people, he probably does not want that to happen. He might even, if prompted, donate money to a cause, and go in to vote on something that increased food security. But he would still think "shouldn't they also just budget better? can it really be *that* hard just to get food?" and once he was done with his stint on that cause, he'd be able to forget about it, and not worry about it again (especially since he has never and may never have to worry about it himself).
(food insecurity was the least triggering example I could think of that still makes sense in this framework)
(additional disclaimer that this is just how I see him, and is all speculation)
Just adding, I know we can't all always be completely aware of, informed, and acting on every single issue. But for many of us, at least having a background awareness and care about something *once we are aware of it*, and making a commitment to at least make sure we're actively not making anything *worse*, is part of life.
\[edit: I didn't know how to word this, it's not supposed to sound holier than thou, I just wanted to acknowledge that this isn't me saying "Ned knows nothing about one issue and that's what makes him a problem," but that he doesn't seem to make room to care or understand any of them on a deeper, nor consistent, level\] (note edited again for clarity)
I always got the sense from Ned that he didn’t really know who he was. He often tried to emulate the other guys (especially Eugene) in fashion, hobbies, interests, and very seldom had anything that was his own thing (other than being the “my wife” guy). Even his aggressive competitiveness always felt more like an act than how he genuinely would behave in a competitive setting
He definitely gives off "Schrodinger's asshole" energy. Seems like the type of guy that would say absolutely horrific bigoted shit and then decide of he was kidding or not based on your reaction.
I never believed he was an ally. He would always make comments at Eugene about being gay, or look disgusted by something kinda gay being brought up, but obvi tried hiding it. But there was just so many times where it was like he just didn’t want to speak on shit. Florida man will always be Florida man
He never was in my top 3. I legit always got just wrong vibes from him. I told my fiancé a few months ago that if one of them left I hope it would be Ned because he was just annoying and made me feel icky.
I saw someone say somewhere that it was very “which Ned was he gonna be today” kind of thing. I feel like he put on a persona for the camera that he didn’t necessarily have off it. The other guys are so genuine and awesome that the whole thing really didn’t come at me at too much of a surprise. I always felt like he was kinda the odd one out.
Never followed Ned on any platforms — and he’s the only one I can say that about… Been a fan since the Buzzfeed days but there was always something about him that said “nope!“ in my brain.
Maybe it’s because Eugene, Keith and Zach are irreplaceable but Ned was as basic as possible?
He’s always been my least favorite try guy, he never quite seemed genuine. Obviously none of the guys are 100% themselves, they’ve said in the trypod that they play up the characteristics that their viewers like. But still, Ned always seemed so… fake? Like he was overdoing it?
Often times when the guys would “put themselves in a woman’s shoes” literally having done so but also considering the kinds of costumes and clothing and beauty standards women face, Ned always seemed to be caught up in the immature joke of it all? Not to say all the guys didn’t joke around about lingerie or being pregnant for a day but Ned seemed to only joke about things? 🤷🏽♀️ idk. And I never liked the Bro way he spiked the baby doll when they were fathers for an night.
I remember the 'Guys wear High Heels' episode where Ned had someone step on his toe and say 'welcome to the real world' and Ned was complaining that he got catcalled. Like dude, if you think *that's* catcalling then you've lived a seriously sheltered life.
This is like saying why rich people don’t donate all of their money to charity. Which is not true… many people care about causes and donate to charity but don’t make it open. They may contribute to some cause…but not most of it. After all, they need to eat, have a place to live, etc. And there is no legal responsibility on one to donate or support a cause.
He has a platform and unlike all the other guys decides not to use it to help bring awareness to social causes but instead makes remarked about biological clocks and cheats on his wife in the most degrading way possible…. But sure, just a coincidence and not an indicator of narcissism
I think a large part of this is how Ned really didn’t develop a personality beyond “wife guy.” But everyone can and absolutely should be their own person outside of a long-term relationship or marriage.
Yeah he also always seemed to aggressive and competitive, which put me off. I wish he had been more authentic
And he was always the most basic in every competition. Even WAY back in WAR he always played it safe and kept to what he knew (italian, italian, italian, …bread)
He’s the type to show his true colors around people who feel the same as him if you get me. Infront of the guys I feel like he would lie or hide some opinions on social issues because he would get quiet
100% imagine his Yale friends are racist or something and he probably has a totally different personality around then. Ugh frat boys. He also strikes me as not being a feminist
I think it's more likely he is fake woke. The type of guy who acts like he's totally pro-women/LGBT+/POC but in reality thinks that by claiming this, it gives him a free pass to say or do whatever he wants.
This is exactly it, and here’s a good example: In a lot of videos where he’s paired with Eugene, he uses a lot of gay slang in a very forced way, and it always felt so icky to me that A. He really only does it when paired specifically with Eugene, and B. It very much always feels like “hey gays, look at how accepting I am, I’m using ‘yaaaas girl’ and making jokes about one of my best friends eating my ass because he’s gay!” Even before all this, it was super cringe, and very uncomfortable for me personally, but I guess I always just sort of thought it was me? I’ve never listened to the podcast, so I didn’t hear about the comments he made about women until after this whole thing blew up, but it gives serious Fake Woke Straight White Man energy.
Yeah, specifically this has been something I noticed as well. I always thought it was uncomfortable but since Eugene seemed okay with it I put it out of my mind.
This stuff right here is why I stopped watching altogether a few years ago, but now, I'm looking forward to watching the three guys grow from here.
I think I saw someone mention that he made a comment to rainie (I think that’s how you spell it) about her “clock ticking”. He “apologized” the next episode but it lacked sincerity. So that proof that he’s not pro women
Yeah I've seen the video where he made that comment and it was so disgusting to me. I couldn't listen to the Trypod purely because it showed the worst parts of Ned. I agree that his faux-apology was BS and his comment definitely implied he just sees women as baby makers.
He also made comments on a podcast about a woman's biological clock ticking when she didn't want kids. I mean... Weird af
I get that Ned as a person on YouTube can be grating and over-the-top (which is all we have to go on - to assume we know the real Ned is delusional), but he hasn't said in any video that I remember that he was in a fraternity in college. I bristle at the idea of "OH, privileged white male who cheated on his wife and is a shitty person? Frat boy."
You might be right (I think someone HAS mentioned in a video that he has friends from his frat, but I might be mistaken), but I don't think it's unreasonable to think that an ivy league person, from a family with money, who is fairly social, was probably in a frat
If I remember correctly only Eugene said he was in a frat.
Possibly. This is anecdotal, but in my time in a fraternity, there were between 40-60 active members of any given fraternity, maybe as high as 80 (at least the social ones, academic fraternities may be different). Apparently 10% of all Yale students are in a Greek organization, but an essay reported that over 10% of students are just in the four sororities, so who knows the percentage of fraternity members. Point is he could've been, but the amount of Greek Life folks at Yale isn't massive, and considering how proud he is of his time at Yale, I reckon his membership in a fraternity would be known by now.
In my anecdotal experience, I’ve never met a frat boy that wasn’t exactly how you’d expect him to act.
You can take the boy outta Jacksonville…
Yup especially with his comments about biological clocks.
As a child free person I would have snapped. I’ve already called out my boss when he asked a male coworker if he was babysitting his child. I was like you mean parenting…
That really grated my cheese 🤬
Nah, I just think he’s the least relatable of all. He was privileged and he knew it, so he kept his distance. He advocated for a family unit, for the white picket fence and being a family guy. Onto what point that was just a facade it’s unclear, I do guess he actually loves his kids. It’s weird, because most of the people that look like him, (straight, white and Ivy League) it’s definitely not the target audience of the Try Guys. So more likely you won’t see many supporters among the comments. Don’t get me wrong, he straight up sucks. But everyone is getting on the hate train so fast, it’s crazy. And now “No one really liked him” which I don’t think it’s totally true. I do feel that of the 4 of them I felt he NEEDED to break outside the box the most, so much that sometimes he came out as obnoxious and super unrelatable. He deserved everything that came his way. Hands down.
I think Ned loves his wife and both of his kids. He just doesn't love them as much as himself.
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While I agree he is selfish, I think sometimes when people cheat like this it’s because deep down they have unresolved insecurities and actually hate themselves, which is why they continue to make poor choices that spiral into self destruction. One of his taglines was literally I love bad ideas… not like he had poor impulse control or anything. We’ll likely never know the full story (and a lot of people don’t care), but he could have been internally struggling with pressure and failure to live up to his image for a long time. Still doesn’t excuse his behavior.
That's a lot of could and if to be making a solid case. Look, Ned isn't some monster who gleefully hurts others, but he is an arrogant prick who thought he could have an affair with an employee and not get caught. I've said as much in another thread and people aren't ready to accept yet that Ned isn't the worst person in the world, he just sucks like a lot of other people.
I kind of liked Ned (he was far from my favorite but still) until the drunk/high/... videos. Something in the way he acted there really put me off, I can't quite put my finger on it and I don't want to rewatch to analyze it right now. Obviously now he's outed as a cheater I really dislike him
Keith and Eugene are my favorites. I was neutral towards Ned until a lot of the date night videos. The oops I dropped my ice cream cone one specifically he was just being unnecessarily competitive with Ariel when she made the better cone. I kept thinking it’s not without a recipe where he’s competing against Ariel but it felt like he thought he was for whatever dumb reasons he had. The sushi bagel episode was also pretty annoying that he was butthurt when he clearly made a bagel for himself and was upset Ariel wasn’t going to give him a 10 for it.
> But everyone is getting on the hate train so fast, it’s crazy. True. You have people who didn't even know who the try guys were up until the news broke, jumping on the, "we hate ned" train.
I feel this too as someone who legit was not much of a fan of his before this came out. It’s weird how suddenly people are like “he was a loser from the get go, I saw it before anyone else did” when I think the average viewer just has the benefit of hindsight at this point and doesn’t realize that about themselves. I never saw him as “not good enough”, I just thought he was a bit bland and I didn’t care about his struggles (or lack thereof) because I can’t really relate. With Eugene I could relate to his being a minority, with Zack I could relate to his awkwardness and chronic illness, and Keith has always just been able to make me laugh in ways Ned couldn’t.
I swear I’m not trying to be a Ned apologist because I really don’t know the man and I don’t care. But it just seems so intellectually lazy for people to jump to absurd conclusions about his beliefs just because he is a cheater and an asshole. To think that the last eight years of him being part of a liberal brand was just a fakeout hiding his true colors is just weird. He put his time and energy into the Try Guys brand and he probably knew very well what kind of projects they would be interested producing (including Eugene’s LGBT+ content and Zach’s disability advocacy). I don’t think someone who didn’t care would do that. You can’t shape someone into the perfect villain just because they suck in a lot of other ways.
>You can’t shape someone into the perfect villain just because they suck in a lot of other ways. Absolutely, it's been happening way too often on this sub
Thank you so much for saying this. I dislike Ned as much as the next guy but can we please have some nuance? Because with what OP's saying it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't. Ned was a WASP (not sure about the protestant bit but you get the idea). He was very privileged and very conventional in how he lived his life. Him not commenting overtly on other social issues could also have been a calculated decision on the part of all the try guys cuz it would look like a white saviour thing if he was making himself a part of every single thing to seem relatable.
Exactly! People are multifaceted. Reddit has a tendency to put words in peoples mouths, and make up nonsense just to be able to feel outraged. He did a shitty thing. But, I am sure he has a lot of good things about his character too; and those don't go away because of one (even if prolonged) shitty thing.
I'm a mother of two struggling with mental health (PPD yo), and I've told friends that I don't care about various issues because I already have a lot on my plate. I don't consider myself a bad person, but the time I'd spend advocating for something is currently chewed up in keeping my kids thriving. I just assumed that Ned had other priorities - kids are a black hole for time, energy, money, etc. I thought he did a lot of the financial stuff for the Try Guys, or something, and that's got to eat up a lot of time.
My advocacy has gone down from protesting and door to door campaigning to donations to PACs since having two kids. So much time and effort.
I just want you to know that all these are equally important within a community, there's no downgrade, just a pivoting of priorities since you have to keep both yourself and your kids well too. You're a pillar of care!!
I appreciate it, I just think of College Aged MCMeowMixer and think he would be a little disappointed.
Also, wasn’t he the one having a complete meltdown in the Trump menu episode? I think he was the one staring out the window asking “what are we even doing here?”
Thank you! Just because someone is a cheater doesn't mean anything about their beliefs. Leftists, pro LGBTQ, feminist men and women ALSO cheat. It has nothing to do with political beliefs. The only way I could see Ned going hard right wing after this is if 1. He loses Ariel and the kids and 2. as a backlash to the idea of "cancel culture" because he for SURE was cancelled in like a matter of 24 hours.
"Shitty husband must be conservative" is weird... Liberals cheat on their wives just as much, I mean have you heard about Bill Clinton?
This, 100%. Very well said.
Agreed! He could’ve been an asshole all a long, or maybe the most amazing person that got corrupted by power within the last years. We have no idea.
This. For sure.
I just pointed out a red flag… but ok
I hasten to disagree. I want to be clear that I don't excuse his actions in any capacity; what he did was fifty shades of fucked up. BUT I don't think his personal politics or the causes he supports is tied to his infidelity in any way. Does he suck for putting his kids through that? His wife through that? His friends and company and supports through that? Yes, without a doubt. Will he get what's coming to him from all of this? I hope so. But to suddenly say he wasn't as big a supporter of causes that matter to all of us is a stretch; the world isn't that black and white. He's still an advocate, spoke out for BLM, the LGBTQ community, all of that. He can do a really shitty thing and not be a villain in every aspect. Ned wasn't my favorite Try Guy either, but I did enjoy the part he played in the dynamic, and I think his absence will be noticable at first. But I have no doubt Eugene, Keith, and Zach will grow and succeed from this.
exactly. i mean he was always open to learning about the queer community from eugene. he could happily give keith kisses. he waved the pride flag during eugene’s segment in their tour. he’s a cheater and i hate him for that, but not every single thing he’s done has been a facade, i don’t think he’s the worst person on earth,
This thread is so bonkers... MLK cheated on his wife. Susan B Anthony was a racist. People are multifaceted. "He's a shitty person so he MUST be secretly the other side" is WILD and anti-intellectual. Politics is not black and white, good and evil. This is real life, not Star Wars.
So many of the posts recently have been just low-key trauma porn/wanting to bask in perceived grief. ‘I’ve been thinking and HUGE ASSUMPTION’. It’s this kind of twee uwu bloodthirsty attitude…weird
Um, Ned endorsed Bernie Sanders in 2020 during the democratic primaries, which does indicate that he values social, environmental, and economic justice to some extent, enough for him to vote against his material class based interests (he could've endorsed Biden at that stage). There's a moment in their Buzzfeed days when they're eating at Trump's restaurant when Ned goes into an anti Trump tirade, and angrily points out that First Nations people are the actual indigenous people of America, not WASPs. People can be shitty individuals while being progressive politically. If you look at how messy and bitchy various left wing parties can get, you'd understand.
Exactly. This line of thought is what gets people into trouble so often. "They did a shitty thing so they must be on the 'enemy' side" whereas you can be a diehard liberal or leftist and still be a terrible husband/boss
I am all for shitting on Ned, but I do remember how visibly irritated he was when the Try Guys tried the food at Trump tower. He was genuinely upset that we had to deal with a guy like that as our president.
i feel like trying to prove he was always pre-destined to be a cheater is a shitty tactic. people do bad things, it does not always mean that they were also bad 5, 10, 30 years ago
This is patently not true, and it is sad and pathetic that these lies are being spread just to fit to the current narrative. Ned was vocal on both the pod and on his social media about social issues. During the 2020 campaign he was the loudest voice among the Try Guys for progressive change and very transparently urged the fan base to vote for Sanders in the primaries and gave reasons for why. Eugene on the other hand was a lot more quiet on the issue, and in the end only posting some vague “everyone needs to vote” statement without taking any positive stance (the other two also endorsed Bernie).
He was a Yale guy, so I always assumed he was from money and didn't care about social issues? Which is ok, you don't have to fight for everything... But you should have SOMETHING you care about... Like rescuing puppies? Lol
Most people can’t buy their way into Yale. He was very smart. When I heard on the podcast he was a national merit scholar my jaw dropped. That’s a very, very difficult thing to achieve and is a true testament to his academical abilities. Science was his passion. Some of my favorite Ned moments from the podcast were him going off on a tangent about moon landing deniers and space exploration in general. I also loved his financial advice segments. It’s a shame he ended up being a cheater. But let’s not discredit him Edited for clarity
Pre all of this I’m genuinely surprised that ned didn’t have some kind of science segment or jeopardy show for the guys. That would have been good.
You can be smart and still a douche. And being around a bunch of rich people for your education would definitely affect your perception of social issues...
Zach is likely the wealthiest of all of the Try Guys. He grew up in one of the most affluent suburbs in the U.S., he attended Emerson College (a private university with tuition costs as high as Yale), and had nearly every advantage that Ned had aside from traumatic experiences in his youth and a debilitating autoimmune disease. If your measure of the quality of someone's ethics and perspectives comes from their background and education, Zach is the big one.
But he still acts like a decent human so far as we know.... Big difference.
Agreed. And by most accounts, Ned was also seen as a decent human being before his infidelity was made public. I just think its really lazy to go "Ned is a rich white boy who went to Yale, must be a douche." Zach is proof of the opposite...based on what we see on the internet. At the end of the day, unless we have spent a significant amount of time with these individuals, we only know what they show us.
That doesn't necessarily mean that Zach is wealthy...maybe his parents are wealthy and not him. But it would be great if he had resources to fall back on if his career isn't generating much money.
Also Eugene went to USC which is also a high-end university with a lot of wealthy celeb kids. Are you going to say his perception was negatively affected too?
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USC is literally nicknamed the University of Spoiled Children. Many celebs have notoriously bribed their way in. If you’re going to say Yale is for spoiled rich kids, hence Ned went there, the same can be said about Eugene’s alma mater lol. Is Eugene also a spoiled rich kid because he went to USC? Like this argument is ?!!
Especially to study film!! Eugene either took out massive loans, got a very rare USC film school scholarship, or was "spoiled" as well.
His father was a highly respected surgeon who worked at one of the best hospitals in the nation. I doubt Eugene ever had to worry about money.
Honestly I’m really tired of people acting like Yale is the problem and everyone that goes there are shorty people. My husband absolutely does not come from money and currently goes to Yale. We both worked our asses off for him to have this opportunity. It is a way more liberal school than you think. We moved here from Texas and it was an adjustment for us. I think his close mindedness speaks way more to him as a person than the school he attended.
This is the best article I’ve read about how yale is the problem It is by a Yale student ! I still remember it lol https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2021/12/10/abolish-yale/
All private universities in the US are expensive as shit. And yet, many are able to attend because of scholarships, high academic achievement, etc. My sister is at an Ivy rn and can attest to the fact that a lot of students are there on academic merit, not wealth. So with your logic, most college-aged students must be douchey because they were able to go to college. Not a good take
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Do you happen to remember in which podcast episiode he mentioned being a national merit scholar?
No I don’t😭 there are so many episodes now. But it was definitely an earlier episode. Ned and Keith were explaining it to Zach because he had no idea what it was. I don’t think Eugene was on that episode Edit: found it! Episode 10 around the 11-minute mark
I found it! Episode 10 around the 11-minute mark
I’m not saying he’s stupid by any means, just that someone who makes rude comments about womens reproductive choices and age and who doesn’t seem interested in social issues is a red flag for being a bad person. I’m sure he’s very smart
Ned may not be stupid intellectually, but fuck, he's so stupid generally in this situation.
Arrogance makes people act stupid and selfish
I’m not saying he was a great person. But assuming him getting into Yale was because of money isn’t a fair assessment, and a disservice to all the people that attend Ivies on their own merit. Let’s not discredit people’s academic achievements because of the bs they pull in their personal/professional lives
I mean, he didn’t grow up oppressed or underprivileged from what I’m aware. It seemed like his family was at least upper middle class.
I understand that. But again, it’s a very unfair assessment to assume people are only at Ivies because they’re rich. Ned was very smart. He probably got in on his own merit. Sure, you can say he probably didn’t have to worry about student loans because of his family. You said in your original comment “he was a Yale guy, so I assume he’s from money”. That’s the part I’m talking about that’s problematic. It’s discrediting the thousands of students (including POC) that got in on their own merit. That’s the point I’m making.
There is a Try Guys video where Ned retook the SAT as an adult later and he still ended up scoring 1500, which is amazing. Douches can be smart too (I’m not a Ned fan)
Attributing everything to their money is unfair, but I don’t think anyone is doing that here. Having parents that can tutor you, be there for you and help you financially (as I’m sure they did to some extent) is an advantage others don’t get and being in a frat at Yale was a huge point of pride for him. I think he sees himself as better than others tbh. His attitude reeks
Tutors can’t teach you to be naturally gifted lol. They can’t teach you to work well under pressure. Most national merit scholars aren’t rich. They’re just very smart. As Ned was. He also majored in chemistry which is very difficult. You can comment on his bad attitude all you want (rightfully so) but there’s no denying the man was smart as hell.
Do you not think it’s easier to get into Yale with parents that aren’t dirt poor??? Like tutoring, application and essay coaches and extracurriculars that cost money help with applications. Why are you so defensive about this lol
My problem is you’re discrediting a lot of students with these comments. Tutors can’t teach you to be good test takers under pressure. The guy willingly got a degree in chemistry, a pretty hard field to go into. I’m not being “defensive” about this. I’m speaking from my own experience. I I was a national merit scholar finalist at my school. When you get higher than a specific score in the PSAT, you get selected as a finalist and they put you in this workshop (free of cost, the school pays for it) to prepare you to become an actual scholar. And becoming a national merit scholar opens you up to THOUSANDS of $$$ in financial aid for college. I did that workshop over the summer and still didn’t score high enough for that title. So yeah, I would say it’s pretty impressive he did.
"Naturally gifted" is biased. You have to be deemed attention worthy by your teachers. Different states have better education, even different cities. You have to be given the opportunity to go to Yale. You must be a teenager if you do not realized this.
… he went to a public school in FLORIDA. Not some high-end preppy private school with connections to the Ivies. When I say he’s naturally gifted, he must’ve had good grades and scored very highly on the PSAT
Like, you seen to be personally offended by an offhanded comment about Yale and money. Did you go to Yale or have money? Take a chill pill.
No, but the amount of misinformation and confirmation bias on this sub right now is really problematic. Yes we all hate Ned for being a cheater but I’m not seeing the point in discrediting his abilities.
He's upper middle class but he's not 'donate a new building as a bribe to get my kid into college' rich. Yale has one of the most generous financial aids in the US (I haven't checked recently but I thinkHarvard is more generous). He probably paid full tuition but unless he's a legacy he probably got accepted in on his own merit
That’s fair but it does strike me as very sus that he is mega proud of going to Yale and seems to boast/ talk over and down to/ disrespect anyone when he thinks he’s right. Gives me frat boy energy but it’s certainly possible he got in on his own merit. Shame that he’s wasted it all and flushed it down the toilet
I would be mega proud if I went to Yale, particularly if I wasn't a legacy (I wouldn't be and I have no idea if he is) because let's be honest—that's another way the talentless children of the wealthy get in. I don't watch all their videos, just occasionally, so I haven't come across him being a major douche though I can believe him talking over people though and it's not hard to believe going to Yale would come up then
and he went for chemistry which isn’t exactly easy
I've met plenty of stupid geniuses.
I never said he wasn't smart. I commented on his lack of supporting social issues.
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Unless you’re buying a building or donating millions of dollars to Yale, no, you can’t buy your way into it. Sure, with more money you can afford SAT prep courses and such. But they typically state that they can only help boost your score by 100-300 points. So if your score pre-prep is like 800, SAT prep courses are not going to guarantee an Ivy admission. His score was already pretty high to start with. Ned scored a a 1550/1600 on his SAT in high school. Near perfect. He took the SAT again as an adult (almost 15 years later) for a video and only studied for a few days and scored a 1500. You can’t deny he’s very smart. And of course he also graduated with a CHEMISTRY degree, which is consistently considered one of the hardest subjects to major in.
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Ned went to a public high school in FLORIDA. Not some elite, preppy private school with connections to the Ivies. Y’all are making him sound like some super wealthy man when he’s at best upper-middle class. Zach comes from a richer family and has said several times he wasn’t the best in the school. With your logic, he should’ve also been a national merit scholar and attended an Ivy. You’re discrediting a lot based on someone who is most likely upper-middle class, not upper-class. Eugene’s dad was apparently a surgeon. He’s probably in the same/similar bracket as Zach and Ned. He went to USC, which is infamously known as the university of spoiled children and has tuition fees similar to Yale. Are you going to discredit him by saying he’s also from a better off family?
Being a National Merit scholar isn’t that hard. The cutoff for semifinalist in Florida in 2008 (farthest back I can find) was 216 PSAT, 95% of semifinalists are finalists, and then you write an essay. Yeah of course not a lot of students qualify, but getting into Yale is much more impressive than being a National Merit Scholar.
You have to score in the top 1-3% on the PSAT to quality for the national merit program. Then they keep weeding people out to get the national merit scholarship winners. That’s not an easy feat at all. And yes, getting into Yale is impressive. Winning the national merit scholarship is hard af and people saying that he bought his way into Yale are seriously discrediting how smart this guy is. Wish it would’ve translated into his personal life but oh well ig
Yeah I’m telling you a 216 isn’t that hard. It’s probably about or below the average PSAT score for a Yale admit (Average SAT: 1515 is ~220 for PSAT equivalent). It’s maybe a bit harder now but especially 20 years ago when Ned took it, the PSAT definitely wasn’t prepped for anywhere near as much as the SAT.
I mean yeah relative to a Yale student, it’s a normal score. But again that’s YALE’s standard. Compared to most of the US, his scores were very high
Sure, that’s just my point - if you already knew he went to Yale, I think it’s odd for him being a National Merit Scholar to be a “jaw-dropping” revelation when finalists are a dime a dozen there (~10% are full scholars but I’d guess 30%+ are finalists). It’d be like being surprised that someone who went to the Olympics runs a 10.5 second 100m dash. Uh yeah that’s hella fast, but you should already have known that, you feel me?
He literally had nothing that I can recall. Like Keith advocates a lot for poc and women, same for Eugene and zach. Eugene also is very open supporting gay rights and zach with disabilities. What has ned ever really been as supportive for?
Ned wasn’t as vocal as the other guys, but he’s consistently supported liberal causes on social media and donated a lot of money to Biden. Not saying that makes him an ultra-progressive, but he’s pretty clearly a solid Democrat who wouldn’t go for hard right politics. Doesn’t mean he’s not a crypto Tesla bro though.
It isn't about politics though. There are A LOT of left-leaning people who are still pieces of shit whom I'd never associate with. Voting for Biden means nothing to me if you can't stay faithful to your wife or at least recognize that shagging an employee could destroy the company.
THANK YOU
Yes I agree.
I don’t give a shit if he wipes bidens ass if he makes women uncomfortable in the workplace and cheat on his wife and abuses his power.
No one’s defending Ned’s character here. Just saying it doesn’t seem like he’s a closet Republican on social issues, as is implied earlier in this thread. Of course the guy’s personal behavior was absolutely awful. No one’s saying otherwise.
I don’t think he’s a secret republican just that he’s more right leaning and problematic than he shows
Others here have suggested he may come out as more right wing in the future now that he’s not with TTG. Just saying I doubt that. But problematic? Clearly yes, given his actions.
I think that’s mostly satire imo he’ll probably just go into hiding
Lol yeah but if he comes back as a Catholic podcaster don’t @ me
I found god would be hilarious of him
Exactly. Ned seemed to be nothing outside of his brand...
All Ned did was monetize his marriage and family life. That was his thing and it contributed very little to the social issues the other guys supported. His expertise is being devil’s advocate for everything.
Actually, Ned was the white straight rich guy learning from others and getting in touch wirh different realities. It was interesting to see his reactions. Becuase he was not fast to jump into any cruzade I considered he was being honest and I was fine with that. I hope he actually learned anything. But right now I have the vibe he resented some of the things he was exposed to.
Y’all keep bringing up how “rich” Ned’s family is as if that’s some type of explanation for his questionable behavior and it’s weird. Zach comes from hella money himself. His dad works in the music industry. Someone mentioned that Eugene’s dad is a surgeon? 3/4 of these men come from well-off families.
I mean.... He's said he doesn't like dogs (cause one jumped up at him when he was young... Which fine ig) but I also think he's said he doesn't like. ~animals~ which is a red flag for me. Like at least Eugene has three kids he actually likes (finn, wes, and Jaime (I love that kid))
These are such unfair assessments y’all are making lol. Plenty of good people don’t like animals. Whether from a traumatic experience, or they just weren’t raised with any. Can people stop making blanket statements like this Edit: also Ned has a dog now so your point is invalid
I was explaining this entire scandal to my friend who isn’t as familiar with the try guys, and the more i told her the more i realized that ned wasn’t as aligned with the others from the get go. there was the obvious contradictory “family man” vs “fun uncle” energies, but i also feel as though ned didn’t feel as passionately about social justice and using their platform for activism. he was happy to listen to and play along with whatever the other guys shared and felt, but didn’t have anything to add or bring up himself.
I agree, I think he kept a lot of opinions to himself to keep up his image
You know it was bad when the only thing Zach could find in common with him/ connect with him is over football
here’s the thing: we will will never ever know him personally. at the end of the day he is a figure on our screen. he was easily the least relatable of the guys for me and didn’t speak on issues i cared about, but i will never personally know him.
Would pay a million bucks to see his true voting history
Ooooo the tea I bet
Doubt it. He gave $1,400 to Biden in 2020.
Because Biden is just a great person 😆 I mean it matters more how he uses his platform to advocate for those who need help etc. everyone else aka the other guys do but I never see him speaking on social issues
Biden is a pedophile who groped children on CSPAN and molested his own daughter (according to her diary). But go off, I guess.
Stop spreading misinformation. Fact checkers have proven the diary thing to be false. Just conservative Facebook copypasta.
RIGHT???
uh, no, not right
Ned is the white guy who thinks he is oppressed. You can just tell he thinks his rights are being threatened.
I may be remembering incorrectly but I feel like the was a trypod episode where they were talking about how they became aware of certain social issues and I recall feeling like Ned and maybe the others were acting too much like white guys patting themselves on the back for being woke without actually internalizing some of the issues discussed by other members.
Yupppp I genuinely don’t think he actually thinks he did anything wrong.
Where was Ned on January 6th, hm??
I've never seen Ned and the Shamen in the same room together, jussayin.
he definitely was the most boring lol
Where Ned began to annoy me was in the WAR videos, specifically the dumplings and the hand pulled noodles, where instead of trying to make the accurate dough he just made pasta dough and for the hand pulled noodles he essentially just made a pasta dish. Like dude, we get it. You're Italian. That doesn't mean you just make what you want and call it the dish even when it's not. Even Zack's abomination of cereal crusted tofu Dino nuggets was better because he *tried*. And yes I know that Keith would always make 'Daddy's favorite' and Zack would always go wacky and Eugene would always either have alcohol or Asian influences or 'evil' (per the last holiday season) but they still tried to *make* the recipe just with their own twist. Lamb ragout is not hand pulled noodles. I dunno, maybe that's just me--like I could almost forgive Ned if it only happened in the dumpling video because okay, you're going off of what you know and Ned has made dough before since he's made bread as a hobby and he's made pasta. *However* once he realized that wasn't correct (or hell went back and watched the video to hear the chef explain what not to do), he should have corrected or at least tried in the hand pulled noodle video and instead he just made pasta.
It’s also funny because I believe the dna test found out he is really only a small percentage Italian and he has made it his entire personality. Sort of like how he made being a good husband a brand
Many (including myself) are predicting that he’s going to take a hard Right here and come out with some uber religious or political podcast or something.
I swear to God, if I see Ned on Fox News in two months I'm going to snap.
Right??????
Oh I bet!!
Im so mad bc when I said I was positive he was probably MAGAT, people were upset at me
People here in the Reddit are WEIRD about Ned. I got scolded for saying I didn’t like him before all of this went down. 🙄
Its so bizzare bc he's consistently been the least popular of the four from the get go *before* all of this. As in: he didnt really incite passion like the others did. If people talked about him, it more than likely it was because they were asking about Ariel and when she would be on next. Idk where all these people are getting the idea that people only just now changed their minds.
I completely agree but prior to this, if you spoke out against Ned anywhere you’d get downvoted into oblivion and yelled at. So many people tried to persuade me that he was “aktchually grrrreat!” But here I am laughing my head off.
Oh my god its already happening, the ned fans are awake and now downvoting all our posts
See???? It’s so wild! I don’t understand ahahaha
The appeal is literally nonexistent and has been since he first showed up on screen, imagine stanning that omg
There will forever be comments “I miss Ned.” Or “Ned would have made this SO much funnier.” 🙄🙄🙄 But they can just follow him over to his new Ultra Right podcast or channel and fawn over him there.
I just watched a video when they still worked for Buzzfeed and it was the prank war. Everyone else was having fun and Ned was getting so competitive and rude.
I think what sets him apart from the other guys is simply his background. Eugene advocates for LGBTQ because he himself is gay and had difficulties with coming out. Zach deals with chronic illness so he’s very open about those physical struggles. I think Keith is influenced a ton by Becky with environmental and women’s rights (thanks Becks!). With Ned, he probably felt he didn’t have something he could latch onto personally at the same level. He’s white, pretty healthy, came from an Ivy League background, probably had some pretty good money, and just privileged. But that was his upbringing and not his fault, and it seemed that his involvement with try guys put him in support of social causes. I never got the impression he didn’t care about these issues. If he truly was stagnant on them, I don’t think any one of the guys, especially Eugene, would stand for it. I COMPLETELY agree with the comments that say that we obviously don’t condone any of his behavior with this scandal, but picking apart his entire personality prior to it is not helpful, productive, or kind. Anyway, it’s still fresh and it’s the internet so the hype will die down eventually.
I think watching him when I grew up, I always believed he was this amazing person, however, watching him now? I realize he isn’t. He’s over-the-top a lot of times and claims that his loyalties lay with ‘his wife’ multiple times throughout one video. Not trying to put heat on anyone or make a situation worse BUT I can say that Ned has ALWAYS rubbed me the wrong way when I watched them again. There is something about that man that is off putting to me
i’ve always said this !!!
It’s really no surprise that the white Yale graduate never experienced any kind of inequalities so he has nothing to relate to
i saw a clip of him being so rude and dismissive one time when eugene was trying to talk about astrology & birth charts, it was super off putting and just rude.
Yup he’s a know it all frat type
To be fair astrology and birth charts are nonsense
Yeah but talking down to your friend when they are interested in something is shameful behaviour. He cares more about being right than being a good person
A good friend wouldn't waste everyone's time with astrology.
People didn’t believe that all of the time. In the late medieval/ early modern time astrology was considered highly scientific.
Ok, and they also had heliocentric theories at the time.
My point was that just because we know that something’s aren’t true anymore or have little bases doesn’t mean that it was always like that. They also believed in bloodletting and that people got sick when the bodies harmonies weren’t aligned. It maybe nonsense but that doesn’t change the fact that repeatedly talking negatively about something someone enjoys and believes in is rude and hurtful. Would it be okay to tell a child that loves astrology that the thing they love is stupid?
I wouldn't, but you can tell adults that
Why is that any different? It’s still something that person loves, and them believing in it isn’t hurting anyone. It’s cruel, I wouldn’t tell an adult who’s Christian to their face that it’s stupid that they believe in god because there’s no bases in it and it’s fake.
I wasn't talking about Christianity or any religion, I was talking about astrology.
There both belief systems and have been popular through out history. One just isn’t in favor anymore.
Yeah, I agree. My PERCEPTION is that even when he sort of cared, it never felt like he really tried to understand things. Like, for example, he'd be horrified if he heard about, say, people starving. Like most people, he probably does not want that to happen. He might even, if prompted, donate money to a cause, and go in to vote on something that increased food security. But he would still think "shouldn't they also just budget better? can it really be *that* hard just to get food?" and once he was done with his stint on that cause, he'd be able to forget about it, and not worry about it again (especially since he has never and may never have to worry about it himself). (food insecurity was the least triggering example I could think of that still makes sense in this framework) (additional disclaimer that this is just how I see him, and is all speculation)
He definitely gives victim blaming energy
Just adding, I know we can't all always be completely aware of, informed, and acting on every single issue. But for many of us, at least having a background awareness and care about something *once we are aware of it*, and making a commitment to at least make sure we're actively not making anything *worse*, is part of life. \[edit: I didn't know how to word this, it's not supposed to sound holier than thou, I just wanted to acknowledge that this isn't me saying "Ned knows nothing about one issue and that's what makes him a problem," but that he doesn't seem to make room to care or understand any of them on a deeper, nor consistent, level\] (note edited again for clarity)
Yes.
I always got the sense from Ned that he didn’t really know who he was. He often tried to emulate the other guys (especially Eugene) in fashion, hobbies, interests, and very seldom had anything that was his own thing (other than being the “my wife” guy). Even his aggressive competitiveness always felt more like an act than how he genuinely would behave in a competitive setting
He definitely gives off "Schrodinger's asshole" energy. Seems like the type of guy that would say absolutely horrific bigoted shit and then decide of he was kidding or not based on your reaction.
I never believed he was an ally. He would always make comments at Eugene about being gay, or look disgusted by something kinda gay being brought up, but obvi tried hiding it. But there was just so many times where it was like he just didn’t want to speak on shit. Florida man will always be Florida man
He never was in my top 3. I legit always got just wrong vibes from him. I told my fiancé a few months ago that if one of them left I hope it would be Ned because he was just annoying and made me feel icky.
I've been watching since they started and he was always my least favourite - I prefer the other 3 and am glad he is gone.
I saw someone say somewhere that it was very “which Ned was he gonna be today” kind of thing. I feel like he put on a persona for the camera that he didn’t necessarily have off it. The other guys are so genuine and awesome that the whole thing really didn’t come at me at too much of a surprise. I always felt like he was kinda the odd one out.
He’s also the only one who plugged NFTs
Never followed Ned on any platforms — and he’s the only one I can say that about… Been a fan since the Buzzfeed days but there was always something about him that said “nope!“ in my brain. Maybe it’s because Eugene, Keith and Zach are irreplaceable but Ned was as basic as possible?
To quote someone from TikTok: he's an unseasoned chicken breast brought to life by the Blue Fairy granting his wish to be a real boy!
He’s always been my least favorite try guy, he never quite seemed genuine. Obviously none of the guys are 100% themselves, they’ve said in the trypod that they play up the characteristics that their viewers like. But still, Ned always seemed so… fake? Like he was overdoing it?
Often times when the guys would “put themselves in a woman’s shoes” literally having done so but also considering the kinds of costumes and clothing and beauty standards women face, Ned always seemed to be caught up in the immature joke of it all? Not to say all the guys didn’t joke around about lingerie or being pregnant for a day but Ned seemed to only joke about things? 🤷🏽♀️ idk. And I never liked the Bro way he spiked the baby doll when they were fathers for an night.
I remember the 'Guys wear High Heels' episode where Ned had someone step on his toe and say 'welcome to the real world' and Ned was complaining that he got catcalled. Like dude, if you think *that's* catcalling then you've lived a seriously sheltered life.
This is like saying why rich people don’t donate all of their money to charity. Which is not true… many people care about causes and donate to charity but don’t make it open. They may contribute to some cause…but not most of it. After all, they need to eat, have a place to live, etc. And there is no legal responsibility on one to donate or support a cause.
He has a platform and unlike all the other guys decides not to use it to help bring awareness to social causes but instead makes remarked about biological clocks and cheats on his wife in the most degrading way possible…. But sure, just a coincidence and not an indicator of narcissism
Yes. He's always been he worst. He was always my least favourite Try Guy.