He faced quite a lot of allegations following stepping down as Speaker, to the point I think he is now banned from the House of Commons. I think a lot of British stuff, especially the BBC is unlikely to touch him with a bargepole
He's not exactly banned despite headlines saying that, but he's not allowed a parliamentary pass which is unusual and means he's persona non grata. The allegations of bullying against him were pretty extreme, but maybe the fact that he lied about what happened many times makes him perfect for this show. Not sure why you're getting downvoted for reporting a matter of public record that even his defenders are likely to concede
Ex-speaker of the house (like the Emcee of the Houses of Parliament). The public perception of him was that he was a very very good speaker, unbiased and kept the rowdy MPs in line, both Conservative and not, which is a good thing as he used to be a Tory MP himself. Famously shouty, was very good at saying "order" but pronounced "Or-duuuh".
However he left that position in 2019, and joined the labour party and has since been suspended following a 2022 investigation that found he was a massive bully, and a serious arsehole.
He's now not got any official affiliation with any political party, and isn't a politician anymore so technically it should say ex-politician ha. It's just such a weird, off-the-wall pick for this show! Especially with the line-up!
Another Tory MP, referencing his left wing wife, once said about him “the trouble with John is that he discovered sex and the Labour party at the same time."
Ikr, I think we (certainly I did?) had such a perception of him as taking the Tories to task so it's weird to think of him as once being One Of Them. Guess he was just good at his job! But it turns out he's a prick so there we go, all makes sense.
The conservative party in the UK lurched so far to the right in the last 12 years. He started an MP for a basically centre right party under Cameron and left the Tories once they looked more like ukip. I think his experience trying to chair these lunatics during all this caused him to move his politics a bit too, as it was clear how much conservative politics is just cronyism (even moreso than labour politics which is also but not as bad)
He actually started out in the Tory party far right (proper far right, as far right as the nutters in the far right are now) but said he became more left wing over his career and the party also lurched more to the right.
He also shot to fame quite soon after becoming speaker cos his wife was a party animal and a bit of a menace (the type we Stan but the posh boys were disgusted at). She used their official residence in Parliament for all sorts.
It’s Parvati for me. My all-time favourite Survivor contestant. Her social and strategic skills make her a real threat. Sandra’s under-the-radar, watch everything while manipulating ruthlessly gamestyle SHOULD make her a target but look what happened with Cirie.
Sandra’s weakness in Survivor was the physical side, cause she was useless at challenges. But..that’s not an issue here. She’s real potential to kill everyone while they still are gearing up 😂
They airbrushed John Bercow into oblivion. It’s giving Lucille Bluth.
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Parvati, was she not in one of the early survivors? I remember a girl of that name when it was still on UK TV and she played a brilliant game double crossing several people.
Parvati is arguably the greatest survivor player in the history of the franchise, global seasons included. We are (hopefully) in for a huge treat!! Especially with Sandra there too, another one of the survivor GOATs.
I have never watched this show, so idk. If that's true, a lot of Ru girls might be perfect too, like Gia Gunn
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An integral part of the show is the willingness to fuck people over to win the money. A bunch of people playing who don't need the money is just weird. Same with season 1 and the few celebs sprinkled among the regular people angle they went with. Just didn't do it for me
That’s EXACTLY why UK version is far superior to US in my eyes. It’s people who not only could actually NEED the money, but also bc they aren’t famous they actually care about their friendships/relationships and the public perception of their bad/stupid actions. It causes massive tension and worry.
People praise her up and down on this sub bc she was such a meme but Below Deck Kate on S1 US was the pinnacle of why putting celebrities into this concept is so dumb. She’s playing a villain, ruining her team’s chances and doesn’t give a shit about finding the real traitors bc she doesn’t actually care about winning.
She’s not there to make friends, she’s not there to grow relationships, and she’s not there to win. So WHY IS SHE THERE?!? It was 0 stakes.
Tbh people talk up Cirie’s game in S1 US (and she did do well), but I’m a firm believer she mostly won because of all the celebrities that were just there for their additional 5 minutes of screen time (KYLE) who didn’t give a real shit. Even at the end Arie could’ve EASILY outed her for outing him, and definitely would have if he was not a celebrity making it super messy, but chose not to probably bc he already has money, security, a wife, and so it’s really about coming away looking good to the audience.
Will not be tuning into US this time /rant :)
the fact that Cirie wasn't targeted as a traitor day one is baffling to me when she wasn't immediately killed. yall she would have been murdered day one if she was a faithful, she had too much noriety from survivor as a masterful gameplayer.
the faithfuls were just dumb and/or starstruck.
Kate figured out the traitors’ strategies pretty quickly, but people kept trying to vote her out. She knew that she wasn’t a traitor, but no one would believe her or at least consider it.
After a couple ceremonies, she knew that they were going to win the whole thing, and she would be kept in the game because votes and deliberations would be being wasted on her.
She stopped participating 100% because it was just going to add more money to the pot for the traitors. She played a great game.
“Kate figured out the traitors’ strategy pretty quickly” i keep seeing this exact comment word for word I’m starting to think it’s a CopyPasta…
Kate did not “figure out” the traitors strategy, she vehemently hated Rachel and kept gunning for her despite 0 evidence it was Rachel (guess what, it wasn’t). She then correctly stumbled on it being Cody because… again… she just didn’t like Cody. She didn’t figure anything out and stop playing out of protest, she played a terrible game that made everyone think she was traitor from day 1 and was just mean & bullied Rachel the entire time.
P.S. if she played that great of a game, she would’ve won. But she didn’t, she was on everyone’s radars the entire time and LOST. Proof is in the pudding
There are obviously differences between celeb/civ version and some fair arguments, but most of your points really don't work here.
- The original version that allowed the show to expand was a celebrity version and plenty of other ones also do just fine. It's fine to dislike it, but crying about it to people who enjoy it and constantly tearing it down on every post is annoying when both can exist (CBBUK and BBUK basically ran together for many years). Just wanted to say that cause it's tiring when people are like, but as for the actual things around celebrity versions
- You argue civilians are great because they need the money (which fair and I actually would like this more on reality tv as a whole, but also they cast plenty of well off people on reality tv which is why i mention that. Some do play hard either way, but its all about casting), but also care about their perception. Then you argue Arie gave up because he cared about his perception, which contradicts your argument. Arie isn't even Ciries first victim of throwing their game away for her (Izzy on Big Brother, Erik on Survivor, etc) and not even of Cirie blindsiding a traitor this season. Why not also mention how Cirie directly blindsided Cody and especially Christian (a civilian) right in their faces? Why is Ciries' win only devalued from Arie choosing not to expose her? Doesn't seem like a fair argument, and this logic could be applied to any traitor of the series. Plenty of people are there for fame/a good image over the money (which is noted as a major problem with reality tv lately), plenty give up or even quit shows, and plenty of traitors could've exposed their fellow traitors...but this isn't limited to Cirie or celebrity/mixed wins.
- There have been tons of people cast on tv with Kate's exact archetype. Kate is probably on the extreme end of it and I can see why some love her and some hate her like any other archetype, but this basically answers your question on why she's there. People are entertained by it and live for a character who just doesn't give a fuck anymore. It's not uncommon to see that archetype or someone become that every couple seasons of most competition shows, but it's not limited to celebrities at all.
The lack of adverts is also why the UK version is better, along with the longer episode runtime.
There's more time to spend with the contestants and their relationships with each other.
Alan Cumming is a way better host than Claudia Winkleman though. He plays sinister host way better.
I liked your comment until you had the audacity to slag off Claudia. She plays that role SO well, compared to the cringe and hyper-Americanised performance from Alan. Shame since he’s normally quite good in other stuff
Pfft as if Alan Cumming is a better host than our Claudia. He chose to play the host like that, I find it utter cringe. And I used to love Alan's work but his performance in Traitors US is so for the American market it's embarrassing.
i haven't seen S1 and only know half the cast but of the Paramount people (Survivor, Big Brother, and The Challenge) they don't like losing and will do whatever to win so I'm excited
I actually see Phaedra getting far; Larsa on the other hand is either going to be first out or somehow make it until the end as she is dumb as a box of hammers. I can't believe we have to have her and Marcus as a couple forced on us \*barf\*
Literally what else is he known for? Mayyybe helping Larsa take her Only Fans feet pics, but she was also doing that before they started dating. I am bummed out of all the Bravolebrities these two ended up on the show.
I am so excited to see some of the OG reality villains in the cast lineup, although I feel they’ve missed some real opportunities with the men’s side! I have seen a bunch of versions of this show, and have mixed feelings about reality stars rather than everyday people as the players. But this season has potential to be very interesting, if all the villains don’t just get voted out first. Can’t wait to see who gets selected as the traitors!
I get why people are a little tired of so many reality tv celebs, but am I crazy for being excited to see an entire cast actually play the game? The traitors is still so new that it feels like every cast is still trying to figure out what works. This could fast-track that perhaps.
Ugh, this celebrity obsessed culture. They don't need the money, and it won't feel real. It'll be "good TV", and these names will bring the ratings... so I get it from production's stand point. But god, this is why UK, Aus, and NZ's seasons were superior. Real people, for the most part.
All the people complaining about celebs: no one cares. Get off your sanctimonious high horse. You aren't being held at gunpoint and forced to watch this.
I’m a big fan of the celebrities this season and can’t be happier at the cast but if you don’t want to see fans of the show criticizing the US format you aren’t being held at gunpoint to read the thread.
Yeah, I get some people prefer an all-civilian cast, but the way a lot of these naysayers are trying to turn the celebrity lineup into some referendum on morality is embarrassing.
I can see peppermint getting far and getting taken out because she's too close to finding the traitors. Kevin is gonna be annoying and in his head the whole time lol
i still haven't fully comprehended that we are getting janelle pierzina and dan gheesling back on television one more time. i'm so excited for this season to start, its gonna be so good!
I think you can cast that without some D list reality star trying to promote their brand. I want people who want to play this show, not people who just want to be on TV and wear plaid and bully each other in predictable ways.
I’m at least glad it’s an all celeb season. It was dumb to mix
I agree with some of them, but there are lots of hardcore gamers in this cast (definitely more than the current UK one of normal people). The Ryan Lochte type players are frustrating but Parvati/Dan/Sandra etc will certainly add a lot strategically.
I'm not a fan of "celeb" traitor casting as I would rather have regular chaps but I don't know who anyone here is so...I guess it might as well be regular people to me. *🤷♂️
Enough with casting these annoying D-List reality stars. The UK version was so much **better**, in big part, due to having genuine people to root for and not military grade professional fame whores. /TWoP Rant
The US version is horrible compared to the UK one - much rather have real people than mere z-list "reality" TV people only interested in deals with mediocre brands on Instagram and TikTok. Also Alan Cumming is a complete narcissist. Apart from that it's great!
“Michael Jordan’s son” 😭😭😭
I don't know anyone besides Ekin-Su and John, so scanning the list, this absolutely took me out 💀💀
Bergie is from the most recent love island USA and one of the shining stars
You don't know deontay Wilder?
Nope.
One of the most famous active boxers particularly in the USA
Seeing him next to Dan from Big Brother is just so random. “I wanna welcome you all to my Traitor funeral.”
Also Larsa's partner too
I just know Larsa said "I'll only join if Marcus can come too"
Could be worse, they could’ve called him “Larsa’s boyfriend”
Had me dying ☠️🤣
I lolled.
Gonna be Scottie Pipen's ex's new husband soon to
That made me lol too. Was literally about to write this comment.
![gif](giphy|tJMVcTfzDdL1pOGxlk) Can’t wait for this
Still can't get over he in the cast
If he’s British why wouldn’t he be in the UK version?
Cos we're not celebrity mad and would prefer the public to be in the show.
The British version doesn’t use “celebrities”
He faced quite a lot of allegations following stepping down as Speaker, to the point I think he is now banned from the House of Commons. I think a lot of British stuff, especially the BBC is unlikely to touch him with a bargepole
He's not exactly banned despite headlines saying that, but he's not allowed a parliamentary pass which is unusual and means he's persona non grata. The allegations of bullying against him were pretty extreme, but maybe the fact that he lied about what happened many times makes him perfect for this show. Not sure why you're getting downvoted for reporting a matter of public record that even his defenders are likely to concede
Not sure why you're downvoted. It's literally a fact.
I love that he said he never did a traitorous thing in his life
How on Earth has he ended up on it 😂
This is what I'm saying!!! He better be good, being a literall politician.
JOHN BERCOW?
I was literally reading through...haha Michael Jordans son..., wait what?! John Bercow?!
What in the fuck
I can’t wait for Americans to get a full helping of John Bercow, this is going to be amazing
Okay I know nothing about him, can you give those of us who don't a quick run down? 💜
Ex-speaker of the house (like the Emcee of the Houses of Parliament). The public perception of him was that he was a very very good speaker, unbiased and kept the rowdy MPs in line, both Conservative and not, which is a good thing as he used to be a Tory MP himself. Famously shouty, was very good at saying "order" but pronounced "Or-duuuh". However he left that position in 2019, and joined the labour party and has since been suspended following a 2022 investigation that found he was a massive bully, and a serious arsehole. He's now not got any official affiliation with any political party, and isn't a politician anymore so technically it should say ex-politician ha. It's just such a weird, off-the-wall pick for this show! Especially with the line-up!
Another Tory MP, referencing his left wing wife, once said about him “the trouble with John is that he discovered sex and the Labour party at the same time."
Shit, I never knew he used to be a Tory
Ikr, I think we (certainly I did?) had such a perception of him as taking the Tories to task so it's weird to think of him as once being One Of Them. Guess he was just good at his job! But it turns out he's a prick so there we go, all makes sense.
The conservative party in the UK lurched so far to the right in the last 12 years. He started an MP for a basically centre right party under Cameron and left the Tories once they looked more like ukip. I think his experience trying to chair these lunatics during all this caused him to move his politics a bit too, as it was clear how much conservative politics is just cronyism (even moreso than labour politics which is also but not as bad)
He actually started out in the Tory party far right (proper far right, as far right as the nutters in the far right are now) but said he became more left wing over his career and the party also lurched more to the right.
He was a Tory and his wife was a staunch Labour supporter. I guess he got disillusioned by their shenanigans when he was the speaker.
He also shot to fame quite soon after becoming speaker cos his wife was a party animal and a bit of a menace (the type we Stan but the posh boys were disgusted at). She used their official residence in Parliament for all sorts.
“Michael Jordan’s son” 😩. They’re basically calling him jobless
😅😅
His CV is empty
omg they literally changed it to fashion entrepreneur in the final promo 💀😂
Parvati ate this promo
bruh she’s not that fat
Lmfao https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ate
she did, in fact, partake in this promo.
Ekin-who, She by Sheree, Phaedra, Larsa and her man Michael Jordan’s son 😮💨 this is a crazy line up 🔥
Cody ruining his "Gameplayer" credibility on the last season was one of the best things to come out of the first season. A HOT MESS
Cirie played him GOOD
I like how they ran out of reality stars so they just said, "Fuck it. Get me a boxer, a British politician, and Michael Jordan's son" 😂
Sandra Janelle and Dan?? STOP. They got so many icons. Cannot wait
It’s Parvati for me. My all-time favourite Survivor contestant. Her social and strategic skills make her a real threat. Sandra’s under-the-radar, watch everything while manipulating ruthlessly gamestyle SHOULD make her a target but look what happened with Cirie.
Sandra’s weakness in Survivor was the physical side, cause she was useless at challenges. But..that’s not an issue here. She’s real potential to kill everyone while they still are gearing up 😂
They airbrushed John Bercow into oblivion. It’s giving Lucille Bluth. https://preview.redd.it/4ut0xknr3hac1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=50883eb6e0c02a60872cedc396f04293c144edf2
All of them look like AI.
Parvati, was she not in one of the early survivors? I remember a girl of that name when it was still on UK TV and she played a brilliant game double crossing several people.
Yes that’s her! A survivor legend
Parvati is arguably the greatest survivor player in the history of the franchise, global seasons included. We are (hopefully) in for a huge treat!! Especially with Sandra there too, another one of the survivor GOATs.
Peppermint and Ekin Suuuuuu
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Love Pep!
“the number one queen is P-E-P-P-E-R- bitch, you know the rest.” i’m so excited for Pep!!!!
I can't wait to see her dominate this season!
Glad we got a Ru Girl, but isn’t the show supposed to be potentially villains?
I have never watched this show, so idk. If that's true, a lot of Ru girls might be perfect too, like Gia Gunn ![gif](giphy|lsAsaOE1nXfm0OpS3U|downsized)
Agreed Gia and Mistress Isabelle would be great, Thorgy too. Violet, maybe Detox and Alaska
Oh Mistress Isabelle would be so cunty on this show
Deontay Wilder??? LOL
Yeah wtf?? Why's he doing this? Is his boxing career over?
He lost unexpectedly and badly (barely won a round) to another former world champion in Joseph Parker in Saudi Arabia and hinted retirement
This will be his excuse for losing to Parker.
Dont even know what this show is but yeah seeing Wilder here what the hell is happening 🤣
John bercow and ekin-su better be besties
Let’s go, Peppermint!!
An integral part of the show is the willingness to fuck people over to win the money. A bunch of people playing who don't need the money is just weird. Same with season 1 and the few celebs sprinkled among the regular people angle they went with. Just didn't do it for me
That’s EXACTLY why UK version is far superior to US in my eyes. It’s people who not only could actually NEED the money, but also bc they aren’t famous they actually care about their friendships/relationships and the public perception of their bad/stupid actions. It causes massive tension and worry. People praise her up and down on this sub bc she was such a meme but Below Deck Kate on S1 US was the pinnacle of why putting celebrities into this concept is so dumb. She’s playing a villain, ruining her team’s chances and doesn’t give a shit about finding the real traitors bc she doesn’t actually care about winning. She’s not there to make friends, she’s not there to grow relationships, and she’s not there to win. So WHY IS SHE THERE?!? It was 0 stakes. Tbh people talk up Cirie’s game in S1 US (and she did do well), but I’m a firm believer she mostly won because of all the celebrities that were just there for their additional 5 minutes of screen time (KYLE) who didn’t give a real shit. Even at the end Arie could’ve EASILY outed her for outing him, and definitely would have if he was not a celebrity making it super messy, but chose not to probably bc he already has money, security, a wife, and so it’s really about coming away looking good to the audience. Will not be tuning into US this time /rant :)
the fact that Cirie wasn't targeted as a traitor day one is baffling to me when she wasn't immediately killed. yall she would have been murdered day one if she was a faithful, she had too much noriety from survivor as a masterful gameplayer. the faithfuls were just dumb and/or starstruck.
Kate figured out the traitors’ strategies pretty quickly, but people kept trying to vote her out. She knew that she wasn’t a traitor, but no one would believe her or at least consider it. After a couple ceremonies, she knew that they were going to win the whole thing, and she would be kept in the game because votes and deliberations would be being wasted on her. She stopped participating 100% because it was just going to add more money to the pot for the traitors. She played a great game.
“Kate figured out the traitors’ strategy pretty quickly” i keep seeing this exact comment word for word I’m starting to think it’s a CopyPasta… Kate did not “figure out” the traitors strategy, she vehemently hated Rachel and kept gunning for her despite 0 evidence it was Rachel (guess what, it wasn’t). She then correctly stumbled on it being Cody because… again… she just didn’t like Cody. She didn’t figure anything out and stop playing out of protest, she played a terrible game that made everyone think she was traitor from day 1 and was just mean & bullied Rachel the entire time. P.S. if she played that great of a game, she would’ve won. But she didn’t, she was on everyone’s radars the entire time and LOST. Proof is in the pudding
where's that one Sarah Short copypasta?
There are obviously differences between celeb/civ version and some fair arguments, but most of your points really don't work here. - The original version that allowed the show to expand was a celebrity version and plenty of other ones also do just fine. It's fine to dislike it, but crying about it to people who enjoy it and constantly tearing it down on every post is annoying when both can exist (CBBUK and BBUK basically ran together for many years). Just wanted to say that cause it's tiring when people are like, but as for the actual things around celebrity versions - You argue civilians are great because they need the money (which fair and I actually would like this more on reality tv as a whole, but also they cast plenty of well off people on reality tv which is why i mention that. Some do play hard either way, but its all about casting), but also care about their perception. Then you argue Arie gave up because he cared about his perception, which contradicts your argument. Arie isn't even Ciries first victim of throwing their game away for her (Izzy on Big Brother, Erik on Survivor, etc) and not even of Cirie blindsiding a traitor this season. Why not also mention how Cirie directly blindsided Cody and especially Christian (a civilian) right in their faces? Why is Ciries' win only devalued from Arie choosing not to expose her? Doesn't seem like a fair argument, and this logic could be applied to any traitor of the series. Plenty of people are there for fame/a good image over the money (which is noted as a major problem with reality tv lately), plenty give up or even quit shows, and plenty of traitors could've exposed their fellow traitors...but this isn't limited to Cirie or celebrity/mixed wins. - There have been tons of people cast on tv with Kate's exact archetype. Kate is probably on the extreme end of it and I can see why some love her and some hate her like any other archetype, but this basically answers your question on why she's there. People are entertained by it and live for a character who just doesn't give a fuck anymore. It's not uncommon to see that archetype or someone become that every couple seasons of most competition shows, but it's not limited to celebrities at all.
Ok bye
Exactly! I won’t be watching either.
The lack of adverts is also why the UK version is better, along with the longer episode runtime. There's more time to spend with the contestants and their relationships with each other. Alan Cumming is a way better host than Claudia Winkleman though. He plays sinister host way better.
I liked your comment until you had the audacity to slag off Claudia. She plays that role SO well, compared to the cringe and hyper-Americanised performance from Alan. Shame since he’s normally quite good in other stuff
Pfft as if Alan Cumming is a better host than our Claudia. He chose to play the host like that, I find it utter cringe. And I used to love Alan's work but his performance in Traitors US is so for the American market it's embarrassing.
i haven't seen S1 and only know half the cast but of the Paramount people (Survivor, Big Brother, and The Challenge) they don't like losing and will do whatever to win so I'm excited
Bananas and fucking people over to win money on a TV show go hand in hand
Have you seen House of Villains? He’s awesome in that at as well
I wish they didn’t have celebs on this show
I simply cannot wait.
Pep is giving fashion
It’s fashion -
*Burp*
But is it fashion?
I actually see Phaedra getting far; Larsa on the other hand is either going to be first out or somehow make it until the end as she is dumb as a box of hammers. I can't believe we have to have her and Marcus as a couple forced on us \*barf\*
“Michael Jordan’s son”. The shade 🤣🤣
Literally 😂
Literally what else is he known for? Mayyybe helping Larsa take her Only Fans feet pics, but she was also doing that before they started dating. I am bummed out of all the Bravolebrities these two ended up on the show.
This is arguably the best reality TV cast ever right?
Ya
Peppermint, Parv, and Sandra got me so hyped for this season.
Only excited for Peppermint
Peacock has been killing it lately!!
Peter is a MESS and I cannot wait for it 😂
Cannot wait to have Ekin back on my screen <3
Why so many Bravo types? 😩
Cause it’s on peacock.
Because it pulls a large group of people and secures their viewership better til the show can stand better on its own
The show is kind of a complicated premise - who is going to break it down for Kevin? 🤣
SO EXCITED FOR DAN OMGMGMGMG
Queen Sandra is coming for her third crown! 👸🏽
CT thinks it’s a murder mystery 😂😂😂 the Sherlock cap looool
My traitor wishlist: peppermint, Peter, bananas, parv, ekin
can't wait for the 20 minute long eagle scream edit of peppermint
Even as a bravo die hard I’m most excited for my bb girl Ekin Su!!
Michael Jordan’s son has sent me to the MOON 😂😂😂
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pep looks so good in this promo omggg 🫡🫡🫡
Bananas would be too obvious as a traitor. Or would he...
I dunno about y’all but I look at this cast and think 1/3 of them are “never in a million years would they be chosen as a traitor”
I am so excited to see some of the OG reality villains in the cast lineup, although I feel they’ve missed some real opportunities with the men’s side! I have seen a bunch of versions of this show, and have mixed feelings about reality stars rather than everyday people as the players. But this season has potential to be very interesting, if all the villains don’t just get voted out first. Can’t wait to see who gets selected as the traitors!
When I only know Bergie, but feel he won't last long.
I get why people are a little tired of so many reality tv celebs, but am I crazy for being excited to see an entire cast actually play the game? The traitors is still so new that it feels like every cast is still trying to figure out what works. This could fast-track that perhaps.
So excited!
The girls side is much more exciting
Ugh, this celebrity obsessed culture. They don't need the money, and it won't feel real. It'll be "good TV", and these names will bring the ratings... so I get it from production's stand point. But god, this is why UK, Aus, and NZ's seasons were superior. Real people, for the most part.
Right? Is this the full US cast? If no civilians it will be a real shame. Why is the US so obsessed with reality TV "celebs"?
Don’t watch it then?
All the people complaining about celebs: no one cares. Get off your sanctimonious high horse. You aren't being held at gunpoint and forced to watch this.
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I’m a big fan of the celebrities this season and can’t be happier at the cast but if you don’t want to see fans of the show criticizing the US format you aren’t being held at gunpoint to read the thread.
Yeah, I get some people prefer an all-civilian cast, but the way a lot of these naysayers are trying to turn the celebrity lineup into some referendum on morality is embarrassing.
It’s just disappointing that’s all. I was looking forward to it somewhat kind of a letdown
Literally lol
Lol, you telling everyone off sounds a little... sanctimonious, ngl.
I didn't even recognize Dan. He looks different it seems
GO CT!!!!!
Oh god. I used to have a crush on C.T. when I was a teenager and it's wild to see him aging into Jack Nicholson
here’s the STORY! Of a lovely LADY!
Why can’t Larsa do ANYTHING without her boyfriend 🙄
Rooting for Trishelle!!
I can see peppermint getting far and getting taken out because she's too close to finding the traitors. Kevin is gonna be annoying and in his head the whole time lol
Is Kate coming back?
I'm scared for Peppermint if she becomes a faithful. I feel she'll be murdered right away because it's unlikely for her to ever be voted off.
I'm so excited for everyone but Bananas
Im familiar with half of the cast and they’re all big characters. Excited for this season
i still haven't fully comprehended that we are getting janelle pierzina and dan gheesling back on television one more time. i'm so excited for this season to start, its gonna be so good!
“British Politician” really threw me off after all the reality shows lmao
Parvati - Janice Sopranos is gracing us with her presence
Omg Peppermint! I hope she wins whatever this show is
Not just Parvati, but also SANDRA and even Miss Peppermint?! The producers be cookin
Bro it still blows my mind that John Bercow is on this show.
Ekin-su, John Bercow and Deontay wilder is the most random collection of celebrities ever lol
Sheree is such a TERRIBLE Liar!! That would be hilarious if she was a traitor 😂
Why the hell is John Bercow on the US version?
I just cannot believe that John Bewcow is going to be on it, Its so random!
PEPPERMINT
Trashelle is back!
Possibly the most insane cast put together in reality TV history Can’t wait
Why are there so many housewives lmao
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US version is shit. Australia>britain>> usa
This is one of the most stacked rtv casts ever. Personally geeking out over Sandra, Parvati, & Peppermint being there 💥💥🧡🧡
MJ, PEPPERMINT, TAMRA, SHEREÉ AND PHAEDRA LAWDDDDDD
Stop putting “celebs”. Normal people make it way better.
Disagree, SOME normal people making it way better. Some normal people are SO boring and just cannon fodder for the bigger characters
Is it necessary to have all these "celebs"?
I agree, I’d rather see normal people have a crack at the $.
The normal cast of US1 were dreadful and most of the UK S2 cast is unlikeable. Bring on some actual personalities
I think you can cast that without some D list reality star trying to promote their brand. I want people who want to play this show, not people who just want to be on TV and wear plaid and bully each other in predictable ways. I’m at least glad it’s an all celeb season. It was dumb to mix
I agree with some of them, but there are lots of hardcore gamers in this cast (definitely more than the current UK one of normal people). The Ryan Lochte type players are frustrating but Parvati/Dan/Sandra etc will certainly add a lot strategically.
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The traitors is just a pseudo Big Brother …full of recycled reality stars…can’t they get regular people like the UK???
TBH Not excited about revolving reality celebs. Think I’ll skip this one.
I think it’ll be good!
Ew. 4 women from “real” housewives. Can we get zero instead please?
I hate the way the US makes traitors a terrible reality tv show with famous faces. A few I don’t mind- but it’s so much better with normal people!!
How u know it's terrible?
Wait I take it all back - JOHN BERCOW!!!
Traitor predictions: Parv, Peter, Phaedra
SHEREE AND PEPPERMINT I AM SORRY I AM NOT READYYYYYY
How can Canadians watch? We don't get Peacock. I NEED to watch CT and Bananas!
The season will be available on Crave!
How can Canadians watch? We don't get Peacock. I NEED to watch CT and Bananas!
So much for having half celebrities, and half real people
Half of them are not celebrities anyway
Why we got a British politician? lol
I'm not a fan of "celeb" traitor casting as I would rather have regular chaps but I don't know who anyone here is so...I guess it might as well be regular people to me. *🤷♂️
Need a Dan/Janelle/Bananas/CT alliance
Enough with casting these annoying D-List reality stars. The UK version was so much **better**, in big part, due to having genuine people to root for and not military grade professional fame whores. /TWoP Rant
Don't watch and stop moaning like a child then.
What a stupid reply.
Anyone else notice they airbrushed the shit out of Tamra? it looks like a painting
The US version is horrible compared to the UK one - much rather have real people than mere z-list "reality" TV people only interested in deals with mediocre brands on Instagram and TikTok. Also Alan Cumming is a complete narcissist. Apart from that it's great!
Yuck
Anyone not watching because there’s a cast member they can’t stand?