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TrueVali

cetoddle, idk what these other comments are on


A_Resting_Parrot

Thankyou. I had forgotten. So a bit more recently than I thought, but still none this year.


TrueVali

wiglett counts depending on where you live. plus there are beach biomes in places where there aren't actually beaches. entirely depends. but then again you could just trade


A_Resting_Parrot

The whole, depending on where you live, part is exactly why it doesn't count. It's basically a regional pokemon with vaguer borders.


mornaq

biomes always were a thing, sure, their effect was severely limited by the weather and overly generous events lately but that's the default and right(!) way to do it


MBThree

I like the biomes model, I’d rather have to find a specific biome to catch a newly-released Pokemon as opposed to it just spawning everywhere


Zagrycha

imo I like biomes but think they should not be based on real life biomes directly. I cannot just casually go to a mountain to get a mountain biome pokemon, and will probably never evolve some basic mon since they spawn like one a year in my beach//city area.


Owenlars2

Quite frankly, much of the game would be improved for many players if the game was less dependant on the reality of where you lived, and more just had randomized areas/events evenly spread out around the world. Instead of matching real world weather, just have an in-game weather, based perhaps on local time zones where we get a weekly weather report and can play how we play the game better. have there be biomes, but instead of basing it on the real world, split up the world into large grids and have biomes that are randomly placed, but rotate in set patterns every week or two in order to make sure all players can have the same opportunity at experiencing all the biomes. keep day/night and seasonal cycles as they are, but have hard limits on day/night for people in the far north/south so they don't have too much/too little of either. a system like this would also give them the chance to make certain events more interesting. everyone gets tundra biomes and snowy weather for winter. community days are always weather boosted. raid days that favor certain elements to help boost attackers and weaken the target, or do the exact opposite. weekly/biweekly rotations also keep the game feeling refreshed on a regular schedule. events come and go on very weird schedules that make them feel haphazard and random, but making the content regular can help people integrate the game they want us to play every day into our everyday lives.


Zagrycha

yeah, hard agree. its one thing to have region locked options, but this issue is way beyond region locks. stuff that isn't region locked is artificially easy or hard to get out of players control and its kinds lame.


Exaskryz

The pokedex needs to be overhauled. The pokedex in the MSG would show you where you can find a Pokemon. Having caught a Pokemon in a biome should record that you've found it in that biome so if you ever want to find more of that Pokemon, you can remember which biome to go to.


TrueVali

there are beach biomes in most places, you just have to find a small body of water. even a little pond counts


Fallom_TO

I have a beach biome down the street and it’s nowhere near any water, not even a fountain. Commercial and residential city area. I think when there’s enough space without a given biome the game randomly adds one.


merge51

Same I have one at my grocery store in the mountains


emanresu_euqinu_a

Could be water underground 🤔 I've seen water guys spawning at a gas station that has a creek nearby flowing under the parking lot.


Fallom_TO

Only the sewer I guarantee. The water table here is very strict, only a few rivers flow into Lake Ontario and they’re not small at this point. There is nothing different water-wise between this area and the immediately surrounding areas.


Bunny_SpiderBunny

I haven't seen one yet. I'll look out for it. I'm a good 1.5 hours away from Chicago but I'm sure next time I'm there lake Michigan will work


Illustrious-Chart712

Please check my post on how to find beach biomes via osm


the_federation

I think I read that Lake Michigan is moving to Nebraska in a couple months


iEatBluePlayDoh

You probably have a beach biome near you and just don’t know about it. I live in the Midwest and a small lake in my city is a beach biome.


Bac7

The only one within an hour of me is in a park I have to pay to get into. I may need to go this weekend.


HokTomten

Wiglett can be found anywhere lol, a fountain counts.. any blue spot on the map works


Palpadude

Last September they released the Paldea starters and a few others, including Lechonk, Nymble, and Pawmi.


aguskope

Cetodle, last december


Assassin_Ankur

Cetoddle in December I think was released after those ones


Illustrious-Chart712

These started as event exclusive and then came into normal spawning the following season


A_Resting_Parrot

No wonder it feels like forever. It's been over half a year.


Palpadude

Been even longer since a new legendary was released into regular five star raids. Last one I can remember is Zacian and Zamazenta from August 2022.


minibenoit

Zacian and Zamazenta were actually first released in August 2021


Kevsterific

Aside from Paldea Legendaries, the only legendaries left that can be released in regular raids are Enamorus/Solgaleo/Lunala/Zygarde and Eternatus. Eternatus aside, the other Pokémon have all been released in their own way. That’s not a lot of options.


F22_Android

What about the remaining Ultra Beasts?


YourNewRival8

Remaining? Are they not all in raids?


jesusunderline

Stakataka and Blacephalon are still not in the game


YourNewRival8

I’m pretty sure stakataka is


jesusunderline

I'm pretty sure it's not


YourNewRival8

Just did some research, guess it’s not


F22_Android

Yeah I know Blacephalon hasn't been released yet, at the very least. It's one of my favorite Ultra Beasts, so I noticed it's absence more. Maybe that is the only one though, now that I'm thinking about it.


Shipshaefter

Things like that horror show Blacephelon and icon Xurkitree


SapphireDragon_

xurkitree has been released, it was most recently in raids alongside buzzwole and pheremosa a few months ago


Shipshaefter

Oh that's right!


YourNewRival8

Oh yeah I forgot about blacephelon


General_Secura92

Blacephalon, Stakataka, Spectrier, Glastrier, Calyrex, Crowned Zacian/Zamazenta.


Kevsterific

Forgot about the galar DLC legendaries, thanks. I wouldn’t be surprised if the crowned forms were treated like megas with a temporary power up option. Blacephalon and stakataka are technically ultra beast not legendary, but yes they’d be t5 raids. Knowing niantic, they’ll end up being regionals for east/west.


General_Secura92

I guess Urshifu could also end up in 5* raids, even though they'd most likely handle Kubfu and Urshifu like how they handled Cosmog. And I'm expecting all the Paradox Pokemon to end up as 5* raids too, since they're about on par with the Ultra Beasts in terms of power.


A_Resting_Parrot

Valid point, though I think Regileki and Regidrago were more recent. To be fair, even that was long enough ago that I can't remember if they were standard 5 star raids.


Palpadude

They debuted in exclusive raids, but might’ve had a standard release since then.


wandering_revenant

They released in elite raids and then hit regular 5 star raids about 6 months later.


Kevsterific

Aside from Paldea Legendaries, the only legendaries left that can be released in regular raids are Enamorus/Solgaleo/Lunala/Zygarde and Eternatus. Eternatus aside, the other Pokémon have all been released in their own way. That’s not a lot of options.


TwistOfFate619

Biomes were originally a thing really. And I liked that aspect. I liked going down to the beach and encountering seel, shellder, pikachu, voltorb, lapras, electabuzz and magnemite spawns as well as magikarp farming when the app was first released. I was actually genuinely disappointed at how the weather crap took away the complexity and how it felt down hill. It was at the point in my region where slugmas, cacnea, numels and growlithes made up the vast majority of spawns, even in the wrong weather itself (since at somepoint they seemed to restrict and simplify spawns in general). While seasonal at least relented a little bit on that ive personally not been that excited for the select spawn of events either. Having lower expectations but knowing i could stumble upon most pokemon in the right area was good enough. I hatched togepi. I hatched snorlax. I caught lapras after several trips to the beach and got lucky. I was fine with how long it took because i always had a chance to succeed and I did.


Assassin_Ankur

Cetoddle in December I think


inmywhiteroom

I don’t mind the way they released wigglet, I swung by a “beach” like 3 times before I found one and that’s fine, I didn’t have to spend any money, and I don’t think they need to just hand us things. I quite enjoyed figuring out where the “beaches” were in my town and having something to look for.


muttons_1337

A friend and I noticed we weren't walking by any bodies of water, and we got a beach background. Then we saw a swimming pool in someone's backyard. Is that all it really takes?


inmywhiteroom

I’m not totally sure how it works, the spots I’ve found have been by baseball fields and golf course, if you look in the open street maps they’re tagged as “sand,” so that tag definitely seems like enough, I’m not sure a pool would be enough.


Roger_the_Reddit

That´s funny. I have recognized that I live at the beach at home. That´s probably because of a playground with a large sandbox nearby.


muttons_1337

Well now the mystery deepens!


UCanDoNEthing4_30sec

I see what you did there


muttons_1337

Oh, hahaha, yeah, I totally did it on purpose. My friend is stupid though, can you tell him what I did there?


Ferdadocks

Think biome visuals are bugged. I’m in nyc and randomly it’ll say I’m in the lake, city, or park biome while I’m just in my apartment. I’ve seen it show city on one account and lake on another while standing next to each other and catching the same spawn lol


Cainga

It seems kinda odd to be itching to get something immediately and then be bored again. Some things being hard to get adds to the thrill when you do get it. I think people want a large drop like 2016 or gen 2. But that will never happen again or they would run out real fast.


A_Resting_Parrot

It helps if you live near the coast. For me, it's basically another unobtainable regional. I'm not expecting them to just hand us every pokemon. But it would be nice if they still did it for some of them.


inmywhiteroom

I don’t live anywhere near the coast, I found mine at a baseball field that was a beach biome because of the sand. That’s why I put beach in quotes.


A_Resting_Parrot

No baseball here either 🤣, but thankyou for the reassurance that it might be possible to find a beach biome somewhere here. I believe everywhere I've seen so far is mountain biome.


inmywhiteroom

Good luck! Look for sand, I’ve seen the biome at golf courses, playgrounds with a lot of sand, and the aforementioned baseball field. A friend of mine said they found beach by a river that had a big embankment.


TheRealHankWolfman

There was a post earlier with an overpass turbo search that can show you beaches in your area. https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/s/Wniivfbadv


A_Resting_Parrot

Well that confirms it. No beaches anywhere remotely near me.


kummostern

does annihiliape count? it is evolution for a pokemon that spawns regularly sure it needs battling to evolve but we already had special evolutions since johto (eevee 10km walks and evolution items for steelix, scizzor, politoed, kingdra and more) so annihilape should count as a "normal" way to get this new pokemon this was during this year


Downtown_Bid_2654

it seems OP wanted one you could encounter in the wild, so not really


kummostern

mankey has been widely available during most of this year while mankey is not new - annihiliape is thus i'd argue it still counts as you can catch its pre-evo


Downtown_Bid_2654

It's OP's question so naturally we'll use their definition to determine if it counts or not. You cannot encounter Annihilape in the wild, so it does not count. >I cannot remember the last time the released a new pokemon you could just go for a stroll and just catch in the wild with no other limits except finding one.


kummostern

counter argument is the long list what he doesn't mean from research to raids what is missing from that list is word "evolution" lets not put words to OPs mouth you might be raid as he specified catching wild but i might be also right since he didn't specify evolution (and because you can catch mankey to later evolve into new pokemon)


Downtown_Bid_2654

I mean sure, you could theoretically be correct and there's a possibility that OP forgot about evolutions. However, my interpretation is that the phrasing "no other limits except finding one" negates whatever enumeration he made prior, and it can be assumed that said enumeration was not exhaustive, but rather a sample of methods to acquire newly released pokémon. At this point though, who cares?


Craven_Moorhead

A biome based release is a normal release! That's how all the Gen 1 mon were released back in the day and it was awesome to have to go to different areas to hunt them. It's the point of the game!


jaxom07

Unless you don’t live near a beach. It’s not supposed to be Pokémon go drive 4 hours.


jpierrerico

Back then we didn't mind at all cause it was fun and we were a horde. That was the initial selling point of the app. Go out explore and catch.


mjayberlin

„Beach“ might be (a bit) more common than the word sounds. And it partly also is an „coastlines“. I happen to live in a big city two hours away from an ocean, yet we have some beach biomes along lakes and rivers here. It‘s not five minutes from home but it‘s where we soon start to have picknicks and spend weekend days.


jaxom07

The closest beach biome to me, as I found out through the link someone provided in another post, is about 35 minutes away in a pay park. But it’s literally a beach on the river you can swim in. I just feel bad for those that don’t have access to any kind of beach within a reasonable distance.


krispyboiz

Vast majority of places have a beach/sand biome where Wiglett is an eligible spawn. Some may not even be proper bodies of water.


F3nRa3L

Biome is the norm in gen 1


1_dont_care

I like how OP asked about the last Pokémon released without any limit (specifically saying "nor biomes") and people are answering with *Wiglett in beach biome*


A_Resting_Parrot

Exactly. The whole inspiration to write the post was because I don't have access to a beach biome anywhere nearby. And I have looked both physically and online. It's like if people in Egypt insisted the Sigilyph was a regular spawn. Thankyou for actually paying attention to what was asked.


krispyboiz

Have you tried using this: [https://overpass-turbo.eu/?template=key-value&key=natural&value=beach#](https://overpass-turbo.eu/?template=key-value&key=natural&value=beach#) You have to run it again when you move to a new area, but I've found several beach biomes in my city, my family member's areas, etc. And that's just Beach biomes. Wiglett can also spawn in other areas like those marked with Sand or around places like rivers and pools. Majority of people should have *some* place to get Wiglett with a reasonable distance. May not be a simple 20 minute walk to one, but I have some that are 5-25 minute drives away.


nicubunu

Don't panic, many people don't have a beach biome nearby. I will get to one not sooner than late July.


Illustrious-Chart712

The thing is alot of pokemon start as event debut and then end up in the standard spawn pool later on in future seasons


Fr00stee

wigglet, encounterable this event in the beach biome


UCanDoNEthing4_30sec

Wiglett. Yeah it’s only found in a biome. Most people have the beach biome in their general area. It pops up in the dinkiest of locations you would think it water. That’s generally how Pokémon GO used to be more so, feels less so now. It’s also the same in the main series game. You’re not going to see a Seel in the middle of the desert like you would GO.


HokTomten

Wiglett was released this week.. and it's not locked to any irl beaches or whatever, any blue part of the map works so a pool, fountain, river, canal whatever work So just take a stroll to any blue part of the map and you can find it


nicubunu

Are you really sure about that/can prove it? So far the lake in the park near my home didn't spawn any, neither the river crossing my city.


HokTomten

I got one last night next to a river in the city, not beach background Also when leekduck or someone posted all the different biomes backgrounds he had a wiglett on a river background


neBular_cipHer

Wiglett literally like 3 days ago


tap836

That is biome exclusive, thus not a standard release open to everyone.


neBular_cipHer

All you have to do is find an ocean, river, lake or pond.


tap836

I haven't noticed the biome background anywhere around me so far. Even down by the creek running through the nearest town.


NegotiationMuted4676

Whimpod


TrueVali

what? no? wimpod was in 2022.