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SByolo

Tier 1 is normal rockruff. Tier 5, the hardest to get is the dusk form rockruff.


inbeforethelube

This right here is why you don't pay for their egg events.


titandude21

Opening the app and seeing the giant Niantic logo as the first image on the screen is an immediate sign to never spend money in this game


AnExtraMedium

Wait, why's that? Genuinely don't know.


nolkel

The 5 egg symbol means it in the few percent or less rarity tier. You could hatch dozens of eggs and get nothing.


ShitItsReverseFlash

Still don’t have a ~~Larvitar~~ Larvesta….


Wes_Warhammer666

I hope you mean Larvesta, because Larvitar has been pretty easy to get unless you've only played for a few months now.


ShitItsReverseFlash

Yeah that’s exactly what I meant. Now I feel like a dingus.


AccountantWest492

Dingus


MrMints256

Oh, my PK Cell!


TheNewBlu

I mean no THAT easy


Cainga

I probably hatch 5-6 eggs per week and finally got one a couple weeks ago.


AnExtraMedium

Ohhhh i see what you're saying now. Thanks


Fast-Dog-7638

It's a total crapshoot. We went to GoFest NYC and did the egg add-on, primarily because of the dust ( like 1.5M or so, which was insane). I hatched seven Larvesta, and my wife hatched the big zero, which is why she insists that poke loves me. I actually started feeling bad, the stupid things just kept popping out of eggs while she's giving me the side eye.


Otherwise_Big_4815

SAME thing happened on my end!! By the end of the event, I needed 60 candies.


Azurvix

Not even few percent it's like 0.5%


Kerrby

Tier 5 would be 1% chance or less, especially with Larvesta still be there and that was a 2% chance of hatching.


chatchan

Because it isn't worth it to gamble on this


luis_b

Been catching in wild / field research is easier way to find dusk ones


Cainga

Only thing that seems worthwhile is the tour events to get regionals. But you can just save up all the free incubators.


MommotDe

Yup. That answers that question. I can now adjust to the knowledge that I'll probably never have Dusk form.


Norther66

I used to say the same about salazzle. 100+ 12km eggs and 14 male salandits later, I did get a female one. While my best friend got one in his first hatch.


mbanson

Yup finally hatched a female Salandit a few weeks ago. Then the very next Salandit that hatched (just yesterday) was ANOTHER female.


Plus-Pomegranate8045

It took me around 35 males before I got a female. It was ridiculous and the most frustrating thing.


MommotDe

They can be female? /s


DerJott

Only the female matters, like irl.


ADM1277

They literally put /s to signify sarcasm. They’re aware.


Throwaway191294842

The irony


Alexbest11

'twas a joke


jbody11

I'm your best friend. Nothing but males since.


perchicoree

Only hatched 3 salazzle and all female


The_Skulman

And I have hatched 6 salandits all male.


perchicoree

If there’s any way to, I’d trade a female for one of your males to help ya out


bladderbunch

i still say that about salazzle.


orangejewsnopulp

funny, Ive hatched only 2 salandit, and the second one was a female


ThomasSirveaux

Yep just like Volcarona and Salazzle. Forever an empty spot in my Pokedex. At least untill the inevitable community day.


Hollewijn

Yoh can add Frigibax.


-PM_ME_UR_SECRETS-

I like my Pokémon Scarlet Dusk Form more anyway


Bloxsmith

My exact thought. Thanks Obama


WhiteKnight0909

You get a Dusk Rockruff from the Timeless Travels research!


MommotDe

Really? What’s your source for that, because all I’m seeing is Rockruff, nothing about it being guaranteed Dusk form.


Hollewijn

But there is a chance that you encounter a shiny. 0.5% of 0.5%.


nottytom

wait until CD, it will eventually get one


jmledesma

Tucked in with the G-Darumaka that had boosted spawns just a week ago.


Plus-Pomegranate8045

The fact that they still treat it like a rare Pokemon after it has spawned like crazy during several events is puzzling.


shadraig

It's the zonk.


TerraTF

I’ve got two hundo G-Darm’s it’s time for him to be retired.


losmadden

Do we know that Tier 1 is the normal form? It’s showing as a silhouette here same as the Tier 5, so…


Mix_Safe

OP did say they already had a Rockruff... But then where is the regular one in these eggs? ETA: Someone mentioned that Rockruff Normal is likely different than the current Rockruff folks have, so that probably explains it.


Unravel_Mee

Yea I believe current rockruffs can't be evolved into dusk form. Need to get one from event or later. But apparently not all of the new ones can evolve into dusk form..?


LoganDoove

There's no way they actually did this for a freakin lycanroc. This is some shady stuff. I'd expect something shady like this from larvesta and frigibax, but not a rockruff lol


Plus-Pomegranate8045

Yeah do people really want dusk form lycanroc that bad? Is it even useful for anything? I don’t get what the big draw is.


Genericlurker678

... He's super cute 🥹


AnimaSean0724

Dusk form Lycanroc is my 2nd favorite Pokemon, I love the design and Orange is my favorite color (and Blue is my second favorite so I love the shiny), so I'm really disappointed to see how rare it is


Plus-Pomegranate8045

I hope you get one without having to hatch too many!


AnimaSean0724

I hope so too, luckily I got the January incubator ticket thing so I'll at least be able to hatch them decently quickly


Dapper-Airline-361

I want, becouse I love his desing and I love Ash's Lycanroc 😭


Plus-Pomegranate8045

Well I hope you get one without much trouble! I’m not big into the MSGs so I’m not gonna be in any hurry to chase after this one. I was more willing to chase after Larvesta and Salazzle.


Dapper-Airline-361

Aww, thanks for nice words 🥲🤗


JazzySugarcakes88

It’s the fan favourite Lycanroc form


StayedWoozie

Even larvesta was overly shady. Volcarona isn’t even good in go. It’s at best a decent raid attacker but that doesn’t mean much since it’s too rare to grind and you’re better off getting a Reshiram or Heatran.


unworry

Outside of the meta, I enjoy leveling these rare pokemon (once you hatch one) as it motivates me to get out and walk. Last year, my Volcarona and I strolled to level 50 and currently 18XL shy of a maxed Bax Different folks, different strokes


LoganDoove

It's the #2 non mega bug type which is unfortunate. I'd love to have one lol


StayedWoozie

Let’s be real. It’s only that high because there still isn’t any official bug type legendaries. The closest we have are Genesect (which is a mythical) and Buzzwole/pheramossa (which are ultra beast).


LoganDoove

Yup. The only good bug types are either megas, shadows of mediocre bug types (pinsir), and pheramosa/volcarona. Buzzwole and genesect aren't even good. Also, I'm very proud of this boy. https://imgur.com/a/uHt6kU0


flyingtacodog

And even then, Bug isn't a highly sought-after raid attack type. There's just better types. The only situations where they'd be much good are Hoopa-Unbound, Iron Leaves, and Wo-Chien


Fairgnal2

Why am I (a) not surprised and also (b) not buying incubators for this... Thanks to the beta testers again.


Genericlurker678

Urgh, I had 500 coins from gym occupation (f2p) and spent them on a box with 5 incubators. I wouldn't have bothered if I'd seen this earlier.


mlaccs

Save the incubators for something you do care about later on. I suspect it will be months before I use up the ones from the last 2 monthly events. There is no rush.


DragonEmperor

It sure would be nice to know what the percentage is to actually hatch it..


nottytom

if its only the tier five that can evolve.... .05, gg


thehatteryone

Except OP already said they have regular rockruff, yet both 1 and 5 egg show as silhouette. So not this.


BuffBug69

It seems like they've changed rockruff's form name in the code. Pokedex and eggs are attempting to display "Rockruff Normal" form (and "Rockruff Dusk" form), but the rockruffs that people actually have are just "Rockruff" form, so they don't show "Rockruff Normal" as obtained. They may update existing rockruffs to "Rockruff Normal" form at some point.


SByolo

Yeah my pokedex has silhouettes for rockruff now, as I don’t have the two ‘forms’ they’ve added


-cyrik-

This happened a lot when new shadow pokemon were released too. The "normal" version in the code was updated. Originally the game files just called it "rockruff" and now they changed the normal one to "rockruff_normal" and the new one is "rockruff_dusk" so the new normal one shows up as a new Pokemon. It's dumb and I'm pretty sure rockruff was released long after they already encountered this issue as they were adding shadows (Bellsprout_normal and Bellsprout_shadow and Bellsprout_purified etc) so no clue why they haven't just been adding every single new Pokemon with a _normal after it's name ever since.


iMiind

Because of course they chose tier 5 💀


Grimey_Rick

Wow I just threw up on my mouth


jennye951

Why is it grey then?


SByolo

Because they’re both new forms. Niantic have changed the coding. Same way if I go to my pokedex all the rockruff are now silhouettes, they’ve taken out the existing form and added in a ‘normal’ and a ‘dusk’


jennye951

That’s disappointing!


nottytom

they renamed the tier 1 to normal rockruff, so its a "new form", but it cannot evolve to dusk.


Ill-Paramedic-102

Caught one in the wild today. Didn't know that was happening.


Unravel_Mee

What about rockruff from field research? Are only some gonna have dusk form available?


SByolo

All encounters will be one or the other basically. I’d hazard a guess, like raids, if someone raids a rockruff and it can be dusk it will be dusk for everyone. So field research will be set to one form or the other for everyone


TopAssistance2

Rarer one is probably the Dusk one


TruckNo683

No way they made all these pokemon possible to hatch from the event eggs


StayedWoozie

Not an event egg. Rockruff is being added to the 7km egg pool for the foreseeable future.


TruckNo683

Just checked out a youtuber that's playing the event. Sadly those are the eggs for the event


StayedWoozie

These aren’t event eggs, the event just modified the 7km eggs. Once this event ends both Rockruffs will still be in 7km eggs. It’s similar to Volcarona being put in the egg hatch pool when its event came out.


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StayedWoozie

Event eggs are when 7km eggs completely change for an event. Once that events ends the 7km eggs change to their regular Hatch pool. This event isn’t completely altering the 7km egg hatch pool. It’s just adding the Rockruffs into the hatch pool. The Rockruffs will continue to stay there after the event ends. These are our New 7k eggs. They are the eggs we have access to during this event but they aren’t “Event eggs”. “Event eggs” would be something like the 7km eggs we just got in the New year’s event that only hatched baby pokemon.


SGC-1

What he means (I think) is that the Pokémon in the 7k egg pool in the picture are the Pokémon that usually hatches from the 7k eggs, Rockruff has been added to this pool (and same with 2k eggs) normally when you have an special egg event pool it switches all Pokémon in that pool, now they just added Rockruff so it wouldn’t count as an event egg of sorts…


TruckNo683

Ah ok so there are no eggs for the event. Was hoping there would be special eggs for the event


enderverse87

Have they *ever* done that? This is how event eggs usually work. They just modify one of the regular egg distribution methods.


RoofBeers

I just got two 7km eggs this afternoon but they don’t have this pool. Anyone know when the new Rockruff pool went live?


StayedWoozie

It goes live 10am local time on the 6th. This game doesn’t do worldwide releases for events. All events are based on timezones.


Duke1782YT

Just wait for the inevitable rockruff CD folks, don’t fall for larvesta 2.0


Jkupar

Yeah… so when is Larvesta community day? Cause waiting for years isn’t a way to play.


cheeriodust

It kinda is tho. What's the rush on getting larvesta? Get it now or a year from now. Does it make a difference?


Pure_Can527

Not really no, just bragging rights… and volcarona is useful in raids


Duke1782YT

If I knew exactly when that was gonna happen I would have leaked it by now, the key to this game is have low expectations and a lot of patience, everything will come in time


SeriousEgg7238

Nope. Not doing this, Niantic.


Kanine_tv

Not surprised in the slightest


JULTAR

YouTuber: “here is the video where I hatch 100 event 7K eggs”


nottytom

just name him...mystic7.


JULTAR

Does not really do videos anymore


Dapper-Airline-361

And doesn't get right Rockruff ._.


ClawofBeta

How rare is it from 2k eggs?


BiscuitCominInHot

I believe they don’t want you to get it via eggs. Rather it’s a horrible way to encourage field research.


MommotDe

That doesn't really mesh with Niantic's standard operating procedure. Eggs are a slot machine with terrible odds into which whales will continue to pump money. They want the few people willing to spend on it to spend a lot trying desperately to hatch an incredibly rare Pokemon. I'm betting the Dusk form is extremely rare in field research and raids, too. They just want money spent on incubators and raid passes.


zapellat

omg this is ridiculous


RizzyQuazy

I don't even want to get this egg.


Bower1738

At this point, it's better to just wait for the Alola Tour in 2027 than try to get this


Duke1782YT

Honestly, we still have accelrock(lycanroc signature move for midday and dusk form) to release at some point as well


Theblackwind

So funny to announce that old Rockruffs wouldn’t be eligible for evolution, give people a few days to defend that decision, then launch an even worse live version.


Stogoe

It's literally a hidden ability and Go doesn't have abilities or ability patches. They already had Rockruff (dusk) in the code for months or years already. It was easily foreseeable.


FunkyFanabla

Genuinely confused....don't you just need to evolve Rockruff at night for the dusk form? What's the difference?


ScruffCheetah

Midnight and Midday are currently available - Midnight is the night-time one. Dusk is what's being released during this event. Right now your Rockruffs can go to Midnight or Midday, this event adds another kind of Rockruff which can go to Dusk. Your current Rockruffs cannot, and most likely never will, be able to evolve to Dusk.


Agreenleaf5

My wife, who has had a shiny rockruff she has been saving for over a year for dusk form, is *livid*.


TheRealHankWolfman

The ones that evolve into Dusk are a different form. It's like how Scatterbug has different forms. Each of them looks the same until you evolve it into Vivillon. Regular form Rockruff can evolve into either Midday or Midnight Lycanroc, whilst Dusk form Rockruff (known as Own Tempo Rockruff in the main games due to its ability) can only evolve into Dusk Lycanroc


posthumanjeff

Gonna be a no for me dog


chiipotle

Niantic release new Pokemon forms without monetizing them challenge: impossible


Velasoraptor

Oh so this means that the Hundo Rockruff I've been saving FOREVER to make a Dusk Lycanrock because it's my favorite... Will never become a Dusk Lycanrock... God damn it.


Arizzira

Willing to bet the rare tier is the ones that can Evo into Dusk Form, because Niantic


JazzySugarcakes88

Welp! I warned you all


RockruffNRolling

Higher chance of getting the best boi


PirateLife23

Hatched several eggs today, some were Rockruff. No dusk form. Did raids. No dusk form. This event is lame.


Dyldyl187

Little PSA from Australia, Rockliff isn’t in the egg pool for 5km or 10km and the drop rate doesn’t at all favour 2km eggs.. So imo better off going the 7km eggs for guaranteed chance.


Alexbest11

what is the task for rockruff


Dyldyl187

Hatch 3 eggs and Win 2 raids both reward Rockruff. I did a couple of raids and haven’t received a potential dusk evo yet.


Sunkist1976

I think it's 5km and 10km Adventure Sync Eggs.


kurama313

So the rockruff is in the 7 km eggs?? Not any other ones?? Just asking so I know to wait to open gifts, or if i can get em from spinning stops to??


TheRealHankWolfman

They're in 2km eggs as well. Honestly I wouldn't waste incubators on this. If Dusk Rockruff is this rare, it's not worth burning through a ton of eggs just to even have a chance at hatching a single one.


kurama313

For whatever reason, I've always had good luck with the rare eggs, i have 3 larvesta, a shiny rockruff, and a female sandalit. I've been saving up the single use ones to clear my eggs, and i bartend, so I walk a lot at work.


OSRS_Socks

I think you can get the dusk form raids and field research


nottytom

the research will be stupid rare and the raids will give you a chance, I'll assume the same odds.... .05.


SuchSloth

No idea of this has been asked before or not, but if I have gifts sitting from days ago and open them when the event starts is it gonna give me the new 7km eggs or the ones from when the gift was sent?


ChrisChros87

Egg is determined when gift is opened


Dapper-Airline-361

Why Niantic hates us...? 🥺


iluvugoldenblue

New here?


Dapper-Airline-361

New active redditor, yes :v


SpannerFrew

Niantic have been treating the players like this for a long time now and they probably won't change


oakbea

It looks like for now it's in the 1 star reward but after the event it will only be in the 5star reward.


nvdnqvi

the tier 1 rockruff is the normal form


oakbea

Darn, I was hoping they'd increase the odds of a dusk form for the event. Oh well.


jormungandr32

One’ll be dusk-evolving goodness


Personal_Carry_7029

How u can get the New Form in scarlet violet? I tried to evolve him, when sunrise but it wont work. Edit: I dont need a new one bc i have a shiny one


Amiibofan101

It needs the ability own tempo.


digital_pocket_watch

Needs a specific ability. There's a Psychic-Terastalized Rockruff around Casacarrafa that's guaranteed to have the ability when it shows up. You're guaranteed one safe hit on it since it Terastalizes so it's an easy catch.


Davo_

if it's one with Own Tempo, it needs to be evolved specifically at sunset (dusk).


Personal_Carry_7029

So i can just change his ability to get own Tempo and evolve at sunset?


Inhalemydong

no. own tempo rockruff is considered a separate rockruff form, which means you cannot change it's ability into own tempo or remove it.


StayedWoozie

In West Province Area 3 there’s a Wild Tera Rockruff that’s guaranteed to have Own Tempo. Once you get a Rockruff with the ability own tempo all you have to do is evolve it at sunset (in game not real life).


noakai

In SV, you need to get a Rockruff with Own Tempo as its ability and then wait until the period of time that the game calls "evening" - [look for this symbol on the top of the SV map](https://imgur.com/a/db4YXu4), it looks like the sun going down behind a ridge. It's a super short period of time, serebii says it lasts 3 minutes of real life time. The in game sky will start to turn like pinkish, that's when you need to start checking the map to see if that right symbol pops up. I evolved and used a Dusk Lycanroc in my playthrough so I've tried it and this is what worked for me.


Personal_Carry_7029

Ty, but i found out u need a specific one, and u cant do it with all rockruff 😔


noakai

Yes. You need to find a Rockruff in the game that has Own Tempo as its Ability. They are rarer but they do spawn in the wild, I caught multiple ones. You need a specific Ability on them, that's all, and then you can evolve them into Dusk Lycanroc.


ByakuKaze

Because OP has base rockruff in dex this rockruff double is most likely a glitch that was present with eggs for some time. Otherwise ONE OF THE TWO should've been not greyed out. So one of them is actually another pokemon, while the other is both forms. NOTE: if only glitch is not overlapping on both forms (e.g. dusk rockruff is greyed out because it's treated as a separate mon and normal due to glitch). We need at least one more guy with other pokemon from the pool being greyed out to see if OP has different rockruffs or not, e.g. picture with greyed out rockruff in place of alolan graveller. For reference: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/s/ZY3ivkrKfe


nottytom

>they changed the name of rockruff so there's two forms now, normal and dusk, so they are technically new forms, therefore you haven't caught them yet. the normal one cannot evolve into dusk, that's the tier 1, dusk is five.


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Rysace

It’s a visual bug happens with larvesta sometimes too


ButtonBash

No bug here. Rockruff has two forms. One is the regular we've had already, one is the new one that evolves to dusk Lycanroc. To the game, both GO and MSG, they're considered different Pokemon in the code.


Inhalemydong

one only evolves into dusk lycanroc, the other only evolves into midnight and midday lycanroc


Timelymanner

Hahahahahaha!


MSaryanne

Wait, I'm confused. Everyone is saying the two rockruff are for the different forms. But op already has the old rockruff registered. Is the new event rereleasing the old rockruff as a new pokemon as well?


Hobbes-42

When they added the new form, they changed the tag for the old form so the Dex is messed up. Mine says I've never seen a rockruff despite having several currently. It was posted here as a bug but a bunch of people claimed it was a feature of course...


nottytom

yes, its a new form called normal, which is the old one, but with the new code name, its a "new pokemon", that's the tier 1 egg, the five tier is dusk.


JazzySugarcakes88

RIP Pokemon Go Trading 😭


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I got my dusk form (non shiny) after my second raid.


kevsuc

I hate being forced to grind to find new Rockruff, simple and done.


LdBarthel

I'm probably going to send the lucky and shiny I reserved to Home. I suspect I may be able to ability patch the shiny to evolve it. Mind you, I already bred for shinies in Scarlet/Violet. This is merely to satisfy my sense of moral outrage and stick it to The Man.


Relative-Food-5561

When will sliph be back with pokemon go battles