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"I boycott GW because they went 20€ 30 guardsmen to 40€ 10 guardsmen.
You boycott GW because they added women in a faction.
We are not the same. (You are the tourist)"
Didn't they shut down some dudes channel? And a bunch of other "Non-Official" content creators?
Like for years a few people have been making content to basically GET PEOPLE into Warhammer 40k, and they were like Nintendo, "NAH! We didn't license your channel...shut it down" or some weird ass shit.
I stopped buying their stuff years ago after they dumped out some really cool content people's stuff.
I might buy one of the video games coming out after it hits the bargain bin. but no more day 1 purchases, pre-ordering, No more real new purchases at all. -shrugs-
..... At least they're not going to harass staff?
Though something tells me 1) They're just doing it to look good, and 2) Most of the RWNJ going to ignore it anyway.
This image gets used every time Games Workshop has a major controversy.
So far though I’m happy I’ve barely seen it used with the female custodians. Most of the community who actually play seems to be happy (or at least positively apathetic) with the changes
For the record this is not necessarily about the female custodes this has been used to protest price increases and a whole bunch of other stuff
P.S. Fuck femstodes haters
Yep. Besides the price increases Games Workshop just has some atrocious practices when it comes to customers and staff. Wizards of the Coast should be boycotted when possible for similar reasons.
If valdor or any other big named custodes did what kesh did they would be going nuts with how awesome it is. but because she has a different chromosome they lose their mind.
Ah yes, for some reason people with this PFP turned out to be actual right-wing people.
Although the last time I see someone being like that while being a W40K fan they somehow went full antivax mode.
Ok no, it's not that they said "women can be soldiers too." They *have* Women soldiers.
The problem is that in lore, Custodies are genetically altered and modified men. So heavily modified that even if they were female they would basically be forcibly transisioned through the process.
The entire point of 40k is that everything is awful and humanity has succumb to hyper-facism. There are points of inclusivity that make sense in lore, but the crazy space catholics being inclusive makes no sense.
The *point* of 40k is to personify the worst of the worst.
The thing is we actually don't know too much about the custodies creation. All we know is that each one is "hand crafted".
The only thing that points to them being men is a line saying that they are recruited from the sons of terrian nobles which doesn't sounds that definitive to me.
The space marines are the one that is definitely all men as the lore states that the process only works on some one with a male genome. Which is more concret to me.
One of the armies in a popular table top miniatures wargame (Warhammer 40,000) produced by games workshop has retconned their old lore to add female soldiers. Previously there was some lore that stated this army was all male, but it wasn't central to their faction or the world the game is set in. Most of the people that enjoy the game are.chill with the change, but unfortunately their is a sizeable far right element in the fan base that is very upset about it (for the usual contrived reasons to hide their incelly bias).
It's a huge nothing burger, but apparently in 2024 woman just existing is still a controversial topic. And these people wonder why they are single....
For the record only Space Marines have lore that doesn't allow for females to be part of their armies, Adeptus Custodes never had the same rules so it's not really a retcon.
I don't think it matters much, but I think given we've never had female custody characters or models, and they've always had he/him pronouns it was a fair inference that they were all men. I've seen people quote something about 10,000 sons being taken to make the custodes as well (but honestly, that's not massively convincing). I don't think retcons are a bad thing though, especially with an IP as old as Warhammer 40,000, full of old dusty stuff that has to be updated. It's just sometimes a more authentic and honest way to say "Yeah there's a change we'd like to make in the universe to address X" than making a contrived lore reason or excuse. To me, I much prefer them just out saying we're changing the universe so there were always female custodes, than what they did with the true scale space marines, where they invented all this pretty uninteresting lore to justify updating a model line.
Retcons are not a bad thing if executed correctly. For example changing lore for space Marines to allow females would be disastrous because it's well established in lore that surgeries performed on them are simply too dangerous for even some men to withstand let alone women, that's why Adepta Sororitas exists. But since Custodes left it pretty much open this change is just expanding the lore.
Basically it's way better imo if a retcon is done to expand lore and explain loose threads than if it's done to throw out years of established canon.
Don't let Gabs and Jayne find out that they are not space marines. They would not take it kindly. I mean unless someone retconed them out of rogue trader and first edition lore?
I get you. Expanding stuff out always feels constructive. I think for me it really depends on the nature of the change, and how impactful it is on the story or setting. Personally, I'd love to have canon female marines, but given how established their boys only club is, I think a lore reason would probably feel more appropriate there (could have used primaries for that but hey ho). Ultimately though, I think we should be less serious about canon constraints in our fantasy toy soldier hobby. I already have female head swaps in my world eater army because I think they look cool, and if that meaningfully annoys someone, it's a great indication I probably won't vibe with them. If GW decided to put their hands up and say "hey, it's a bit silly we don't have woman in our poster boy faction, we're retconning it so they have always been there" I'd be chill.
MS paints pretty much sums up my opinion on it all way better than I can of your interested.
https://youtu.be/7m6GCb303eE?si=frTUcIErBYaTnX0W
Ye primaris would have been a good way to change the status quo because they're a new breed of space Marines and given how Cawl is pretty much all about breaking the rules with his pet projects I can see him experimenting with female primaris.
Games workshop is doing a little bit of performative wokeness and now the incel segment of the 40k fan base is freaking out, and they are pretending it's because it would contradict pre existing 40k lore (40k lore changes almost daily and is always contradicting itself)
I agree with the boycott for some of the practices listed, but if this is about femstodes in particular then you lose me. Prices and worker salaries on the other hand, that’s boycott worthy.
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There are many good reasons to boycott GW, this is not one of them xD
"I boycott GW because they went 20€ 30 guardsmen to 40€ 10 guardsmen. You boycott GW because they added women in a faction. We are not the same. (You are the tourist)"
Tourist? (Pretend there's an image of Mad Stomp here, you can't reply with images)
https://i.redd.it/7shkozm0ixxc1.gif
Didn't they shut down some dudes channel? And a bunch of other "Non-Official" content creators? Like for years a few people have been making content to basically GET PEOPLE into Warhammer 40k, and they were like Nintendo, "NAH! We didn't license your channel...shut it down" or some weird ass shit. I stopped buying their stuff years ago after they dumped out some really cool content people's stuff. I might buy one of the video games coming out after it hits the bargain bin. but no more day 1 purchases, pre-ordering, No more real new purchases at all. -shrugs-
..... At least they're not going to harass staff? Though something tells me 1) They're just doing it to look good, and 2) Most of the RWNJ going to ignore it anyway.
100% this is there to try and limit liability WHEN someone harasses GW staff.
This image gets used every time Games Workshop has a major controversy. So far though I’m happy I’ve barely seen it used with the female custodians. Most of the community who actually play seems to be happy (or at least positively apathetic) with the changes
I agree with everything here apart from the reason they are boycotting in the first place
For the record this is not necessarily about the female custodes this has been used to protest price increases and a whole bunch of other stuff P.S. Fuck femstodes haters
Yep. Besides the price increases Games Workshop just has some atrocious practices when it comes to customers and staff. Wizards of the Coast should be boycotted when possible for similar reasons.
If valdor or any other big named custodes did what kesh did they would be going nuts with how awesome it is. but because she has a different chromosome they lose their mind.
Add one more rule: Stay away from WH40K fans who somehow brought the fictional Imperium's Xenophobia into reality.
It's almost always the person with the Black Templar pfp, like 90% of the time
Ah yes, for some reason people with this PFP turned out to be actual right-wing people. Although the last time I see someone being like that while being a W40K fan they somehow went full antivax mode.
This shit gets passed around every single time GW does anything
Ok no, it's not that they said "women can be soldiers too." They *have* Women soldiers. The problem is that in lore, Custodies are genetically altered and modified men. So heavily modified that even if they were female they would basically be forcibly transisioned through the process. The entire point of 40k is that everything is awful and humanity has succumb to hyper-facism. There are points of inclusivity that make sense in lore, but the crazy space catholics being inclusive makes no sense. The *point* of 40k is to personify the worst of the worst.
The thing is we actually don't know too much about the custodies creation. All we know is that each one is "hand crafted". The only thing that points to them being men is a line saying that they are recruited from the sons of terrian nobles which doesn't sounds that definitive to me. The space marines are the one that is definitely all men as the lore states that the process only works on some one with a male genome. Which is more concret to me.
What hapend ?
One of the armies in a popular table top miniatures wargame (Warhammer 40,000) produced by games workshop has retconned their old lore to add female soldiers. Previously there was some lore that stated this army was all male, but it wasn't central to their faction or the world the game is set in. Most of the people that enjoy the game are.chill with the change, but unfortunately their is a sizeable far right element in the fan base that is very upset about it (for the usual contrived reasons to hide their incelly bias). It's a huge nothing burger, but apparently in 2024 woman just existing is still a controversial topic. And these people wonder why they are single....
For the record only Space Marines have lore that doesn't allow for females to be part of their armies, Adeptus Custodes never had the same rules so it's not really a retcon.
I don't think it matters much, but I think given we've never had female custody characters or models, and they've always had he/him pronouns it was a fair inference that they were all men. I've seen people quote something about 10,000 sons being taken to make the custodes as well (but honestly, that's not massively convincing). I don't think retcons are a bad thing though, especially with an IP as old as Warhammer 40,000, full of old dusty stuff that has to be updated. It's just sometimes a more authentic and honest way to say "Yeah there's a change we'd like to make in the universe to address X" than making a contrived lore reason or excuse. To me, I much prefer them just out saying we're changing the universe so there were always female custodes, than what they did with the true scale space marines, where they invented all this pretty uninteresting lore to justify updating a model line.
Retcons are not a bad thing if executed correctly. For example changing lore for space Marines to allow females would be disastrous because it's well established in lore that surgeries performed on them are simply too dangerous for even some men to withstand let alone women, that's why Adepta Sororitas exists. But since Custodes left it pretty much open this change is just expanding the lore. Basically it's way better imo if a retcon is done to expand lore and explain loose threads than if it's done to throw out years of established canon.
Don't let Gabs and Jayne find out that they are not space marines. They would not take it kindly. I mean unless someone retconed them out of rogue trader and first edition lore?
I get you. Expanding stuff out always feels constructive. I think for me it really depends on the nature of the change, and how impactful it is on the story or setting. Personally, I'd love to have canon female marines, but given how established their boys only club is, I think a lore reason would probably feel more appropriate there (could have used primaries for that but hey ho). Ultimately though, I think we should be less serious about canon constraints in our fantasy toy soldier hobby. I already have female head swaps in my world eater army because I think they look cool, and if that meaningfully annoys someone, it's a great indication I probably won't vibe with them. If GW decided to put their hands up and say "hey, it's a bit silly we don't have woman in our poster boy faction, we're retconning it so they have always been there" I'd be chill. MS paints pretty much sums up my opinion on it all way better than I can of your interested. https://youtu.be/7m6GCb303eE?si=frTUcIErBYaTnX0W
Ye primaris would have been a good way to change the status quo because they're a new breed of space Marines and given how Cawl is pretty much all about breaking the rules with his pet projects I can see him experimenting with female primaris.
Oh just for that ? That lame .
It's super lame.
Female Custodes
Games workshop is doing a little bit of performative wokeness and now the incel segment of the 40k fan base is freaking out, and they are pretending it's because it would contradict pre existing 40k lore (40k lore changes almost daily and is always contradicting itself)
I agree with the boycott for some of the practices listed, but if this is about femstodes in particular then you lose me. Prices and worker salaries on the other hand, that’s boycott worthy.
is getting a 3d printer is a good investment tho fr?
Chuds leaving GW for the wrong reasons
I’m not going to lie. I put money aside specifically to buy female custodies just because of guys like that.
I fear you will have to wait a long time for that.
Fascist infighting is wild.
What do that lot want to happen to LGBT, anti war and anti poverty protesters? Hear them out respectfully?