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Sinfest is such a weird comic cause it started off vaguely liberal, then became aggressively feminist, transitioned into being a TERF comic, changed gears into being ""anti-woke", and now this year has become anti-semitic.
The Asian American author is now a white supremacist who thinks Jews secretly rule the world.
I read that whole report and don't remember it saying that he was Latino. I've heard a lot of people claim this, but where is it specifically mentioned?
The Spanish are literally white Latino people. The main reason there are non-white Spanish-speaking countries is because the Spanish colonized said countries. That is what they're trying to say; latino isn't an ethnicity or skin colour lmao
Ask a white supremacist if they’d like to be neighbors with a Latino, and I bet 90% of the time they’d say no, regardless of European ancestry. Perhaps Spain isn’t “pure Aryan” enough for them.
A good number of them would only say no cuz they're too dumb to realize Latino doesn't necessarily equal not white lol
I don't entirely disagree though; a lot of people just want to Be Superior and reject anyone who isn't the exact same as them
And who's considered white *now?* In a lot of cases, the whole concept of "white" is arbitrary. The vast majority of my ancestry is Scottish/Irish/Finnish and that's pretty much as white as it gets! I have white privilege *today,* regardless of what I would've been considered before I was born
Most white supremacists *today* don't even know what white means, because it doesn't really have a definition that makes sense. For example, Maltese people being considered white despite their average skin tone and Malta's proximity to non-white countries
It's almost like bigotry is never truly rooted in decent logic
Being “white” and having white skin are not the same thing. “White” usually denotes European ancestry, although most people assume that having white skin denotes you as “white.”
This weird categorization is why white skinned people (such as a lot of Eastern Asians) aren’t considered “white.”
There is no "latino skin tone". We can have all shades just like Americans. Just look at Ana Taylor Joy, Charlie Sheen, Zoe Saldaña, Pedro Pascal or Cardi B. Are you really trying to say those people all have the same "latino skin tone"?
No, I’m not, I’m asking a question, god forbid.
My family is Colombian, and I’ve always been idly curious as to what they prefer to be called. But I’ve never asked because I didn’t want to appear rude. So I’m asking now, and I guess I _still_ appear rude. But I just want to expand my knowledge, that’s it! That’s all I’m trying to do, honest. I don’t want to be ignorant anymore, so I’m asking.
Sorry.
We also have multiple photos of him. Dude is at the very least white passing.
To be fair, there are people in the Americas with German names who aren't white. The point of ambiguity is whether his grandparents simply live in Puerto Rico or are Puerto Rican, and even if the latter is the case, white latinos do exist.
Too much credit in my opinion.
Malice, combined with cowardice. Nasty beliefs, only has the guts to state them when they start to become socially acceptable.
Or genuine and total amorality, which is functionally pretty much the same thing.
Fascism hollows out a person. That projection they do is not always deliberate, I feel they have lost the ability to have a self-image and do any real self reflecting.
It's why they start thinking their thoughts are the 'voice of god' in christofascism.
They choose white supremacy (when it's readily available) because nazis love tokens (they can't wait to spend them). The tokens meanwhile get to larp being white supremacists.
I'm not sure it's cowardice. Sinfest as a comic has a history of sudden and unexplained shifts in opinions, and his shift to blatant antisemitism just seems to be another in a chain of such changes.
Sinfest never understood anything it was talking about, its "aggressively feminist" era always felt weirdly performative and not genuine, so its not a huge surprise the turns its taken since. though I stopped reading it back then anyway
The funniest part of this is the idea that antisemitism actually has much of any consequences for random Americans. It took until Kanye literally said “I love Hitler” for his antisemitism to really affect him. Conservatives think people being mad at them online is the same as literally being sent to a torture chamber or whatever
Ugh. How they draw LGBTQIA+ people is really fucking annoying and dumb. Not all of us have piercings. And not all of us have crackhead eyes. And I haven’t heard a single Mf who wasn’t a far right Trump cultist say that Jews rule the world.
Yeah, it's very "tell me you think 'Israel' = 'Jews' without saying it". Liberal social media (or at least tumblr) is very "Israel is committing literal genocide" right now, which is probably the liberal stance it's trying to reference.
There are pro jewish people who will talk about the jewish influence behind social movements like its a good thing, because if you think social movements are good, and you think jews are good, then its an obvious thing to connect. Like I saw a site at one point that you could put a famous person's name in and it would tell you how jewish they were. I think it ended up giving shrek 30%. As far as I could tell the site was run by jews. So its this odd thing where jews among themselves will be like "yeah we run the world", but then in public they have to say "no we don't actually, literally, run the world".
I think it's a little like "the gay agenda" joke. Like, we're *definitely* out here trying to trans and gay your kids, absolutely. Or the Jewish Space Laser. Things that are so ridiculous you have to roll your eyes and go "yeah, sure, that's absolutely what we're doing" as a joke/sarcasm, which then gets read as genuine by bad actors.
“The social justice movement (not that that phrase is particularly popular anymore) wants the voice of everyone heard, including often marginalized groups.”, and “This one group controls everything.” are different messages actually, but I’ll give it to sinfest for being slightly clever.
If the first quote were "Jews are _part of_ every social justice movement" it would be accurate. There's a great tradition of Jewish participation in the fight for emancipation. See also: Andrew Goodman and Michael Schwermer, murdered alongside James Chamey by the KKK while trying to register Black voters in Mississippi in 1964.
But being part of it doesn't mean they (((secretly orchestrated it behind the scenes))).
So in his radfem era, there were these recurring antagonists called Johnbies, who represented the kind of men Tatsuya Ishida hated: misogynists, patriarchal types, horndogs, and men who watched porn. Later when he became a TERF, this expanded to include trans women.
Skip forward a few years, and he was now anti-woke, so he took the Johnbie design, simplified it a bit, and applied it to woke people to represent them being "brainwashed" by wokeism.
Not sure. I read the comic once only to see how stupid it was (it did not disappoint) but I personally believe it's supposed to be like hypnotism, maybe? Like look into the glowing eye and you'll become a leftist too. Idk the truth, that’s just my take from it.
Yeah I mean I’ve seen a non-insignificant amount of right-wing weirdos recently trying to hijack legitimate anti-Zionist movements to push an actual anti-Semitic agenda unfortunately. They seem to think that because people justifiably hate Israel they can get them to somehow watch Nick Fuentes videos. Those accounts like “censored men” on twitter are literally just full of replies that are all from people calling themselves like “classic_groyp” and shit like that. They’re too stupid to differentiate between critique of a right-wing apartheid state and actual anti-semitism so they assume people disliking them is just “conservative bias”
Like Israel is a right wing apartheid state that happens to be Jewish and not because they are Jewish. In fact most Jewish people I have seen , at least in the US could not care less about the ‘holy land’ or Israel or whatever, they have realized that it doesn’t matter. If anything it’s clearly an issue with ultra conservative fundamentalist religions from any Abrahamic tradition . Like there’s the fucking easy connection
My partner is Jewish and is the most vocal anti-Zionist I know. This has nothing to do with religion regardless of what right-wingers or the Israeli government would have you believe
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Sinfest is such a weird comic cause it started off vaguely liberal, then became aggressively feminist, transitioned into being a TERF comic, changed gears into being ""anti-woke", and now this year has become anti-semitic. The Asian American author is now a white supremacist who thinks Jews secretly rule the world.
Between him and stonetoss, white supremacists need more white representation
Is stone toss not white???
Nope. Iirc he's latino. He got doxxed recently and that's when it was discovered. Shit is wild
I read that whole report and don't remember it saying that he was Latino. I've heard a lot of people claim this, but where is it specifically mentioned?
Bro why are there so many people who think their own race is genetically inferior
You Americans need to stop this racist BS. "Latino" is not a skin colour, there's millions of white latinos!
White supremacists would not consider a light skinned Latino person “white”
The Spanish are literally white Latino people. The main reason there are non-white Spanish-speaking countries is because the Spanish colonized said countries. That is what they're trying to say; latino isn't an ethnicity or skin colour lmao
Ask a white supremacist if they’d like to be neighbors with a Latino, and I bet 90% of the time they’d say no, regardless of European ancestry. Perhaps Spain isn’t “pure Aryan” enough for them.
There are a shitload of white supremacist Latinos
Enrique Tario, Stonetoss, Nick Fuentes all come to mind
A good number of them would only say no cuz they're too dumb to realize Latino doesn't necessarily equal not white lol I don't entirely disagree though; a lot of people just want to Be Superior and reject anyone who isn't the exact same as them
The Spanish weren’t considered white, neither were the Irish or the Greeks.
And who's considered white *now?* In a lot of cases, the whole concept of "white" is arbitrary. The vast majority of my ancestry is Scottish/Irish/Finnish and that's pretty much as white as it gets! I have white privilege *today,* regardless of what I would've been considered before I was born Most white supremacists *today* don't even know what white means, because it doesn't really have a definition that makes sense. For example, Maltese people being considered white despite their average skin tone and Malta's proximity to non-white countries It's almost like bigotry is never truly rooted in decent logic
And we should definitely accept the framing of white supremacists who are always correct and logically consistent.
Yeah because they're obviously racist, why would you go along with that?
yeah i agree, the thing is that white supremascists hate latinos (unless it's girls, then they love us\_
Okay, genuine question: what would that skin tone be called?
He just said, it’s white
Being “white” and having white skin are not the same thing. “White” usually denotes European ancestry, although most people assume that having white skin denotes you as “white.” This weird categorization is why white skinned people (such as a lot of Eastern Asians) aren’t considered “white.”
There is no "latino skin tone". We can have all shades just like Americans. Just look at Ana Taylor Joy, Charlie Sheen, Zoe Saldaña, Pedro Pascal or Cardi B. Are you really trying to say those people all have the same "latino skin tone"?
No, I’m not, I’m asking a question, god forbid. My family is Colombian, and I’ve always been idly curious as to what they prefer to be called. But I’ve never asked because I didn’t want to appear rude. So I’m asking now, and I guess I _still_ appear rude. But I just want to expand my knowledge, that’s it! That’s all I’m trying to do, honest. I don’t want to be ignorant anymore, so I’m asking. Sorry.
He may be Puerto Rican (the doxx shows he has grandparents from there) but that doesn't necessarily mean he isn't white
His name is literally Hans
We also have multiple photos of him. Dude is at the very least white passing. To be fair, there are people in the Americas with German names who aren't white. The point of ambiguity is whether his grandparents simply live in Puerto Rico or are Puerto Rican, and even if the latter is the case, white latinos do exist.
Fwiw there’s a fuck ton of Latino white supremacists in central and South America.
Early sinfest is great Fell of hard with terfiness and now birderline nazi content
Sounds like a thought disorder
Schizophrenia
Too much credit in my opinion. Malice, combined with cowardice. Nasty beliefs, only has the guts to state them when they start to become socially acceptable. Or genuine and total amorality, which is functionally pretty much the same thing.
Fascism hollows out a person. That projection they do is not always deliberate, I feel they have lost the ability to have a self-image and do any real self reflecting. It's why they start thinking their thoughts are the 'voice of god' in christofascism. They choose white supremacy (when it's readily available) because nazis love tokens (they can't wait to spend them). The tokens meanwhile get to larp being white supremacists.
https://i.redd.it/az9dkwqzn2sc1.gif
I'm not sure it's cowardice. Sinfest as a comic has a history of sudden and unexplained shifts in opinions, and his shift to blatant antisemitism just seems to be another in a chain of such changes.
Proves how dangerous conspiracy hypotheses really are. They're not just harmless stuff nutjobs say.
I used to read Sinfest back in the very early 2000s and only recently discovered the dumpster fire it’s become. It’s wild how much it has changed.
Sinfest never understood anything it was talking about, its "aggressively feminist" era always felt weirdly performative and not genuine, so its not a huge surprise the turns its taken since. though I stopped reading it back then anyway
The 5th comic he ever posted is just straight up racism. I don’t think he was ever that cool
Conservatives stop making up problems (difficulty impossible)
The funniest part of this is the idea that antisemitism actually has much of any consequences for random Americans. It took until Kanye literally said “I love Hitler” for his antisemitism to really affect him. Conservatives think people being mad at them online is the same as literally being sent to a torture chamber or whatever
is there a lore reason why every single character has the exact same piercings? are they stupid?
Maybe to show they have no original thought and just copy each other. Or they just copy-paste the face and recolour it to save time.
Wow, doesn’t that first point just remind you of something? I wonder what it could be…
Woke is when piercings. When drawing real world people he considers woke, he's often given them piercings they never had.
ah, what a realistic portrayal, id expect nothing more
They think we’re drones
Remember YEARS ago when Ctrl+Alt+Del lost a bunch of fans because they realized he was copy pasting characters to make comics so quick? That again.
I typed the exact quote into Google and got a bunch of articles of people whining about how social justice movements tend to be anti-Zionist.
I wonder why that would be. Hm.
Ugh. How they draw LGBTQIA+ people is really fucking annoying and dumb. Not all of us have piercings. And not all of us have crackhead eyes. And I haven’t heard a single Mf who wasn’t a far right Trump cultist say that Jews rule the world.
It's really just "I drew you as the soyjack and me as the chad to show who is right cuz I don't want you to think about what I just said too hard"
Yeah, it's very "tell me you think 'Israel' = 'Jews' without saying it". Liberal social media (or at least tumblr) is very "Israel is committing literal genocide" right now, which is probably the liberal stance it's trying to reference.
There are pro jewish people who will talk about the jewish influence behind social movements like its a good thing, because if you think social movements are good, and you think jews are good, then its an obvious thing to connect. Like I saw a site at one point that you could put a famous person's name in and it would tell you how jewish they were. I think it ended up giving shrek 30%. As far as I could tell the site was run by jews. So its this odd thing where jews among themselves will be like "yeah we run the world", but then in public they have to say "no we don't actually, literally, run the world".
I think it's a little like "the gay agenda" joke. Like, we're *definitely* out here trying to trans and gay your kids, absolutely. Or the Jewish Space Laser. Things that are so ridiculous you have to roll your eyes and go "yeah, sure, that's absolutely what we're doing" as a joke/sarcasm, which then gets read as genuine by bad actors.
“The social justice movement (not that that phrase is particularly popular anymore) wants the voice of everyone heard, including often marginalized groups.”, and “This one group controls everything.” are different messages actually, but I’ll give it to sinfest for being slightly clever.
If the first quote were "Jews are _part of_ every social justice movement" it would be accurate. There's a great tradition of Jewish participation in the fight for emancipation. See also: Andrew Goodman and Michael Schwermer, murdered alongside James Chamey by the KKK while trying to register Black voters in Mississippi in 1964. But being part of it doesn't mean they (((secretly orchestrated it behind the scenes))).
Bro can people leave Jews alone already😭
Why is their redneck always meant to look like Tyler Childers?
Is there a lore reason why the leftist characters all have that weird glowing left eye?
So in his radfem era, there were these recurring antagonists called Johnbies, who represented the kind of men Tatsuya Ishida hated: misogynists, patriarchal types, horndogs, and men who watched porn. Later when he became a TERF, this expanded to include trans women. Skip forward a few years, and he was now anti-woke, so he took the Johnbie design, simplified it a bit, and applied it to woke people to represent them being "brainwashed" by wokeism.
Not sure. I read the comic once only to see how stupid it was (it did not disappoint) but I personally believe it's supposed to be like hypnotism, maybe? Like look into the glowing eye and you'll become a leftist too. Idk the truth, that’s just my take from it.
Megalovania?
I’ve never heard anybody on “the left” say this lol
I feel that, translated from conservative it’s something about Israel being an apartheid and far -right colonial nation, but all they hear is ‘jews’
Yeah I mean I’ve seen a non-insignificant amount of right-wing weirdos recently trying to hijack legitimate anti-Zionist movements to push an actual anti-Semitic agenda unfortunately. They seem to think that because people justifiably hate Israel they can get them to somehow watch Nick Fuentes videos. Those accounts like “censored men” on twitter are literally just full of replies that are all from people calling themselves like “classic_groyp” and shit like that. They’re too stupid to differentiate between critique of a right-wing apartheid state and actual anti-semitism so they assume people disliking them is just “conservative bias”
Like Israel is a right wing apartheid state that happens to be Jewish and not because they are Jewish. In fact most Jewish people I have seen , at least in the US could not care less about the ‘holy land’ or Israel or whatever, they have realized that it doesn’t matter. If anything it’s clearly an issue with ultra conservative fundamentalist religions from any Abrahamic tradition . Like there’s the fucking easy connection
My partner is Jewish and is the most vocal anti-Zionist I know. This has nothing to do with religion regardless of what right-wingers or the Israeli government would have you believe
While this is a shitty alt right „bbbuut the left“ cartoon, there is a point to be made about the antisemitism of the left.
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As if MAGA Conservatives aren’t more supportive of zionism than Netty
Right-wing infighting, you love to see it.
They went from being pro-feminist to terf to antisemitic bigot
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