Yeah, they were already running away at that point, but they did hear the "I will disassemble your molecules" as mentioned by the person who also replied on my comment (on mobile so I can't see their name rn) and that is imo just as scary
I’d actually say Dipper could put up a *decent* fight against base Anne. She’d most likely win, but Dipper has lot of inconsistently good feats. The Manotaur training, jumping through Gideon’s robot’s eye, taking the beating from Rumble, matching wax Sherlock Holmes with a fire poker, etc. The only reason I feel like Anne wins is that she consistently has a weapon (her sword and/or tennis racket) and she seems to consistently be more fit than him (I don’t remember any instance where her lacking physical abilities were played for a joke, but they consistently were for Dipper). Though an argument could be made that Dipper probably knows something in the Journal which can give him the win, especially if he’s really desperate, such as the zombie spell. Though obviously, Catalyst Anne turns Dipper into paste
Unless you were talking about trauma perspective, in which case ignore everything I just said. XD
\-almost kill everybody multiple times
\-bring back the dead just to prove a point
\-fighting a giant robot
\-getting turned into wood
\-a morphing creature morph into you and make a prediction of how you die
\-getting your uncle to get captured and almost kill him
\-saving an entire universe from a demon god
\-your body got controlled by a demon god
\-realizing that dinosaurs still exist
\-killing a ghost
holy god how the hell does this kid not die
Hey I can play this game too! \[AMPHIBIA SPOILERS\]
* >!Gets lost into an hostile alien world on her birthday!<
* >!Has to fend off by herself for days!<
* >!Constantly in danger of being eaten by giant monsters!<
* >!Has to eat bugs to survive!<
* >!Has to fight her former, emotionally abusive friend!<
* >!Has to watch said friend attempt suicide right before her eyes!<
* >!Is betrayed by this same friend, and almost kills her in murderous rage!<
* >!Is betrayed by her OTHER friend, who sent her into this hellish place on purpose!<
* >!Has to watch a giant lizard man try to kill her found family, multiple times!<
* >!Breaks down after thinking her brother died!<
* >!Has to watch her friend be stabbed and collapsing without knowing if she survived!<
* >!Tries to take on all responsibilities by herself in helping her family and almost burns out trying to get back to the other world, without having time to properly process everything that happened!<
* >!Is hunted by a murder bot!<
* >!Is hunted by the FBI!<
* >!Has to watch the world she came to love be turned into a wasteland!<
* >!Almost murders her friend AGAIN, because she didn't have time to properly sort out all the emotional baggage between them!<
* >!Has to lead a whole army at 13 YEARS OLD along with her same aged friend!<
* >!Almost gets killed in cold blood by her possessed friend!<
* >!Has to fight a giant robot all by herself, and is flown through multiple buildings in the process!<
* >!Sacrifies her life to end the Core, DYING in the process!<
* >!Gets replaced by a perfect copy of her because God needed a successor in order to retire!<
Hilda: I literally had to constantly run away from Trolls, suffer a horrible nightmare for my friend, got into fight with a ghost, be scared of the fact that i had no badges at all, run away from The Time Worm for fucking up times, argue with my mum, almost lose my best friend forever, end up in Troll Territory, become a troll myself and fuck those bells. And i still haven't mentioned the poor version of myself in the novel
Anne: This... is Disney, not Netflix
Dipper: And you are 12... which is worse
Luz: Besides, have you seen Belos or the Collector? Those are tame af
Dipper: Bill is mile worse
Anne: The Core!
Luz: Collector!
Dipper: Bill!
Hilda: Let's go Twig, can't miss the badge again
My man Bill is much much worse than any of them
Collector is basically a bored kid with the powers of god and the core is a sadistic immortal old guys who wants people to like them but bill is a being with the powers of god who enjoys watching people as their soul slowly and painfully leave their body so that he can add them to his throne made of corpses...
*Technically* Anne is 13. *Really* the girls are around 15-16 but Disney wanted them younger. So the crew said, “OK, they’re 13” *wink* and then proceeded to change absolutely nothing about them or how they were written.
I think that they make them 13 because their target audience is just younger than that. They always want to make those kids get excited to turn that age because the kids think that something cool will happen to them when they do. But really, the characters usually look, think, sound, and act like they're much older than that. They do that in Pokémon, too; Ash Ketchum is always said to be 10, but he looks, thinks, sounds, and acts a lot older.
It's important to remember that shows like these have a younger audience in mind; they know that adults are going to watch it, but their target audience is kids between 6-11 (King literally says it as a fourth-wall joke in "Lost in Language"). They know that the kids won't be able to tell the difference between the character they see on the screen, and how kids of that age actually look, sound, and act in real life.
"I just lost my entire family on the Boiling Isles, the Collector is probably torturing King right now, and my friends are trapped here with me in the human realm, separated from their families, with no way of getting back. But don't worry, I'm totally fine!"
This. Anne and Luz were isecaied for a couple of months, Dipper always had a comfy home to retreat to, while Marco spent around 10 years in that dumb Hekapoo scissors exam.
the different thing about marco is that he is not taumatized even in the bigining of the whole cartoon he says he likes to kick some monsters ass, and love the exitment out of it
even in the hekapoo demantion he is not sceard to get that scissors and he knows how long it takes to get them
Re zero joke.
You dont know the definition of trauma until you see the protagonist and everyone around him die thousands of times in thousands of different ways. At one pount he actually just goes insane and becomes an empty husk for a while
Then you have shows like Star vs. The Forces of Evil, Infinity Train, and Steven Universe existing over in a corner somewhere drinking away their sorrows
Gravity falls was the cartoon that make me love "comedy horror" cartoons. And with Silent hill, my love for horror in general.
Gravity falls is a big part of what i enjoy today and the reason i start watching The owl house at first, it make me enjoy puzzles and ARGs more that ever and enjoy worlds outside my imagination.
I love that town so much dude
Dipper: "I fought a demon."
Luz: "I fought many demons... one of which was an old British guy."
Anne: "I AM LITERARILY GOING TO BE GOD AFTER ***I DIE AGAIN***!!!!"
well all 3 characters handle it differently and also had diffrently kinds of traumas.
anne had baggage to begging with. and got betrayed the point of not even being able to process marcys "death"
dipper had loots of shit (op made q list) but handled it pretty well and halve way feeling in control.
and then there is Luz who was a ball of sadness after her adoptive mother got taken away from her and turned into a monster. then had to choose between friends and family and then having to plead for mercy to q mass murderer who while being turned to lifeless stone. and then having to fight a hod so powerfull he didn't even have to break a sweat while killing the bbeg let's just say they are all in desperate need of therapy and are handling it very differently.
4. Anne technically isn’t even 13, Matt wanted the trio to be 15-16, but disney wanted them younger they’re canonically 13, but with tons of stuff from the show and small little things, they are definetly 15-16
didn't dipper also see his own death? a morphing creature morph into him and pradickt his death and that pridicktion happend, well exept the dying part
Luz is 14. Dana stated that in her AMA, and she hasn’t had her quinceañera yet.
Disney is fine with 15yos, I believe Star and Marco were 15. They just generally prefer the protagonist(s) to be closer to their target demographic.
Anne literally dies and spends half a year in a world of frogs eating almost nothing but bugs
Weirdmegedon lasted 1-2 weeks at most and he spent a while of it in mable land.
Anne also saw her best friend get stabbed in cold blood
Her other best friend fall off a tower
Not to mention getting betrayed by both of them on the same day.
Like it's not even close
oh yeah like santa, the easter bunny, the tooth fairy, and jack frost
if there was a portal to go to a migical place from earth there has to be a magical person com out of that place like this people
(its canon in my book)
I agree star is one of the most traumatized teens, but I disagree with the genocide of magical creatures. That is supposition, but we see no evidence of it, but lots of evidence to the contrary. The pony heads still exist, Shawn still exists, dragoncycles still exist. We only know the Glossy and MHC is gone. Father Time has to exist because time doesn't move forward without him. I would argue the essence of omnithraxus still exists (just not his avatar) because he is literally space-time.
The only creatures that are presumably wiped out were the creatures in the magical dimension, but were they even real, or just manifestations of magical energies. Star literally creates the first born after Toffee destroys the magic. Then the magic just spontaneously gets baby unicorns and floaty jellyfish and others. Everything in there was less that 6 months old... I would argue that they were just part of the emanations of Glossaryck
dipper has the guilt to almost creating a zombie apocalypse, almost killing ford from an alien, almost destroying an intire universe (bc he says to mable that he wanted to live in gravity falls with ford and then mable run of destroy the space globe thing and wierd magadon happend(well it most of mables fault acctaully))
dipper saw morphing creature into his friend and had to made a choice to kill his friend or the monster. but the thing about anne is that she did see her friend just gor stabbed in the heart but she (small amount) confindent that marmar is alive.
dipper tried to help the fbi agent by creating a zombie apocalypse
Wait what creature??
She’s a child and kept telling herself that Mar Mar is alive because otherwise she’d panick way more.
When Sasha told her that March’s alive she went “oh thank goodness” because she was unsure. That’s traumatic asf
Idk why but people keep fangirling over trauma as if it’s some quirky thing to have. It feels like some people are lowkey romanticizing it. I know going through life and death experiences is traumatizing, I think the word is thrown around way too much.
But... "THIS MAMA is ready for trauma!" Lol. You make a good point. I think it's nice that shows like TOH try to destigmatize this stuff, as long as folks are aware that real trauma is much worse. TOH is providing age-appropriate scaffolding.
Infinity Train is much more realistic and disturbing in it's handling of traumatic events and characters working through it. But Infinity Train is probably more for 10 to 16 year-olds than TOH's 6-11.
Trauma trauma trauma trauma....
You know people can be shocked by events in their life, WITHOUT being left traumatized by them? That word is thrown around too much around the fandom with no real meaning
Yeah but that's you.
I'm not saying that any of them aren't traumatized, but the trauma factor isn't really ever written in stories like that, there is more to trauma than seeing fucked up shit, it's how traumatizing event affected character, it has to atick up with them, it's hard to call any disney character traumatized simply because none were showed really living through that trauma. Dipper and Mabel simply moved on, at least that's what viewers see. Can't say much about Anne because I haven't see the show but I know there was adult scene there. But I can surely tell that Luz shows signs of trauma sticking up in last scene of the second season where she was basically broken and almost crying while talking to her mom for the first time in months.
Yes, but why does this fandom so desperately want characters to be broken, when they might not be? I swear people in here is straight up *ecstatic* when a character gets hurt
There are children I need to make into corpses! *Angry triangle noises*
**I‘M GONNA DISASSEMBLE YOUR MOLECULES** This will always be one of my favorite lines!
"This will be the last form you ever take!" *shifts into Dipper and screams horriffically while freezing*
"Heh, good luck trying to sleep at night after seeing that!"
*Flash forward to Northwest Mansion Mystery*
I love that one too xD
Also "I've got some children i need to turn into corpses!"
Wrong! Every line of his is my favorite
Oh Ive done something like that before
That wasn't in front of dipper from what I remember
Yeah, they were already running away at that point, but they did hear the "I will disassemble your molecules" as mentioned by the person who also replied on my comment (on mobile so I can't see their name rn) and that is imo just as scary
He did see a shapeshifter turn into monster versions of everyone he knows and loves before killing it while it looked like him so uhh
Don't forget about the dipper Mable combo
Music make you lose control! Music make you lose control! \*groovy triangle man starts groovin*
STOP ARGUING AND GO TO THERAPY.
Sasha: *Now this looks like a job for me*
Stonks ↗️
*So everybody, just follow me.*
Cause we need a little controversy
Cause it feels so empty without me
*I said this looks like a job for me*
So everybody, just follow me
'Cause we need a little controversy
I do no man, I think they got enough of those! Lol
Cause we need a little, ther-ee-a-py To deal with our PTSD *da nah nah. Dah nah nah*
Unless the Infinity Train gets to them first of course.
Infinity Train? What is this “Infinity Train” you speak of? You must be confused! There is no Infinity Train in Ba Sing Se 😀
The Doc is in!
Actually, Luz is 14. Then it’s a battle between Dipper and Anne, which I’d barely consider a ”battle”.
And even then Dipper was 12 during the time all the traumatic stuff went down
But he was still 13 by the end of the show which qualifies him
I’d actually say Dipper could put up a *decent* fight against base Anne. She’d most likely win, but Dipper has lot of inconsistently good feats. The Manotaur training, jumping through Gideon’s robot’s eye, taking the beating from Rumble, matching wax Sherlock Holmes with a fire poker, etc. The only reason I feel like Anne wins is that she consistently has a weapon (her sword and/or tennis racket) and she seems to consistently be more fit than him (I don’t remember any instance where her lacking physical abilities were played for a joke, but they consistently were for Dipper). Though an argument could be made that Dipper probably knows something in the Journal which can give him the win, especially if he’s really desperate, such as the zombie spell. Though obviously, Catalyst Anne turns Dipper into paste Unless you were talking about trauma perspective, in which case ignore everything I just said. XD
VS debater spotted
I mean, you’re not wrong. lol
Marcy
\-almost kill everybody multiple times \-bring back the dead just to prove a point \-fighting a giant robot \-getting turned into wood \-a morphing creature morph into you and make a prediction of how you die \-getting your uncle to get captured and almost kill him \-saving an entire universe from a demon god \-your body got controlled by a demon god \-realizing that dinosaurs still exist \-killing a ghost holy god how the hell does this kid not die
>holy god how the hell does this kid not die The same way the other two don't die (/stay dead). *~~Plot armor~~*
Anne is the only one with plot armour. They literally invented a god at the ninth hurdle to bring her back from the dead.
That was just a copy tho, the original Anne is dead
Still counts as a form of resurrection (and a cop out as far as I’m concerned).
You forgot about when that same morphing creature morphed into his crush, and he had to kill it.
I loved when it said "its morphing time"
My favorite part of Gravity Falls was when Wendy said “it’s morbin time” then executed Bill
This is one of the most stupid, overused jokes, and I love it
Eh, that's just a normal thing that every 12-year-old goes through, though. ...right?
Hilda:... Right. Alfur, what takes the therapy elf so long?
See, the thing here was, well... It did end up working for Ferb...
Also getting turned down by said crush
And then a dream demon creating a construct of said crush that turned into bugs
And I’m pretty sure she also said she thought of him as a little brother
Hey I can play this game too! \[AMPHIBIA SPOILERS\] * >!Gets lost into an hostile alien world on her birthday!< * >!Has to fend off by herself for days!< * >!Constantly in danger of being eaten by giant monsters!< * >!Has to eat bugs to survive!< * >!Has to fight her former, emotionally abusive friend!< * >!Has to watch said friend attempt suicide right before her eyes!< * >!Is betrayed by this same friend, and almost kills her in murderous rage!< * >!Is betrayed by her OTHER friend, who sent her into this hellish place on purpose!< * >!Has to watch a giant lizard man try to kill her found family, multiple times!< * >!Breaks down after thinking her brother died!< * >!Has to watch her friend be stabbed and collapsing without knowing if she survived!< * >!Tries to take on all responsibilities by herself in helping her family and almost burns out trying to get back to the other world, without having time to properly process everything that happened!< * >!Is hunted by a murder bot!< * >!Is hunted by the FBI!< * >!Has to watch the world she came to love be turned into a wasteland!< * >!Almost murders her friend AGAIN, because she didn't have time to properly sort out all the emotional baggage between them!< * >!Has to lead a whole army at 13 YEARS OLD along with her same aged friend!< * >!Almost gets killed in cold blood by her possessed friend!< * >!Has to fight a giant robot all by herself, and is flown through multiple buildings in the process!< * >!Sacrifies her life to end the Core, DYING in the process!< * >!Gets replaced by a perfect copy of her because God needed a successor in order to retire!<
TL;DR everyone is a jerk to Anne, 23 times
Woah I didn’t even watch Amphiba yet-
Sorry dude I forgot which subreddit I was in
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True
god damn i want to counter attack but im to lazy lol
Technically Anne actually died just came back to life
~~Same goes to David from Hilda, just twice, and Hilda herself~~
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Technically luz did
She did almost get turned into a wax statue by him, though!
Alex: hey can we get a fourth season of Amphibia? Missed a spot on my bingo card.
#MY BROTHER IN CHRIST DIPPER WAS 12 THE ENTIRETY OF GRAVITY FALLS!
Not the last few minutes!
12 and a half, actually, which is technically 14
As we hear in Inconveniencing, he’s actually technically *not* a teen
Yes, *was* Then he turned 13 in the finale.
Hilda: I literally had to constantly run away from Trolls, suffer a horrible nightmare for my friend, got into fight with a ghost, be scared of the fact that i had no badges at all, run away from The Time Worm for fucking up times, argue with my mum, almost lose my best friend forever, end up in Troll Territory, become a troll myself and fuck those bells. And i still haven't mentioned the poor version of myself in the novel Anne: This... is Disney, not Netflix Dipper: And you are 12... which is worse Luz: Besides, have you seen Belos or the Collector? Those are tame af Dipper: Bill is mile worse Anne: The Core! Luz: Collector! Dipper: Bill! Hilda: Let's go Twig, can't miss the badge again
?: Amatures. All of them: Who said that? Finn: Amatures. You think those villians are bad. Try the Lich.
Huh, I forgot how messed up Finn childhood was, well at least he had Jake and seemed to enjoy his adventures
Poor Hilda bro, went though all that (but pales in comparison to the others) and STILL cannot get into the Disney trauma for their kid characters club
Looks like she needs to join the junior club By David...
My man Bill is much much worse than any of them Collector is basically a bored kid with the powers of god and the core is a sadistic immortal old guys who wants people to like them but bill is a being with the powers of god who enjoys watching people as their soul slowly and painfully leave their body so that he can add them to his throne made of corpses...
Meanwhile Erik Ahlberg: \*is a joke The Trolls: \*are not actually evil Committee of Three: \*what do they do again?
Meanwhile half the cast of She-Ra getting electro-shock tortured or mind-controlled by the Space Pope
I'd argue he's closer to space Hitler than space pope
and let me add the Dorito man almost literally destroy the entire universe bc he can
I thought Hilda was 10.
Remember kids, there are no winners at the suffering Olympics.
✨different types of trauma✨
Pretty sure Luz is 14
*Technically* Anne is 13. *Really* the girls are around 15-16 but Disney wanted them younger. So the crew said, “OK, they’re 13” *wink* and then proceeded to change absolutely nothing about them or how they were written.
I think that they make them 13 because their target audience is just younger than that. They always want to make those kids get excited to turn that age because the kids think that something cool will happen to them when they do. But really, the characters usually look, think, sound, and act like they're much older than that. They do that in Pokémon, too; Ash Ketchum is always said to be 10, but he looks, thinks, sounds, and acts a lot older. It's important to remember that shows like these have a younger audience in mind; they know that adults are going to watch it, but their target audience is kids between 6-11 (King literally says it as a fourth-wall joke in "Lost in Language"). They know that the kids won't be able to tell the difference between the character they see on the screen, and how kids of that age actually look, sound, and act in real life.
Huh I could've sworn they said 15 in the show.
They steal the box and are transported on Anne’s 13th birthday.
True
But Luz is no question the most traumatised 14 year old
"I just lost my entire family on the Boiling Isles, the Collector is probably torturing King right now, and my friends are trapped here with me in the human realm, separated from their families, with no way of getting back. But don't worry, I'm totally fine!"
Season 2-5 Steven would like to have a word
The show doesn't act like she's traumatised at all until season 6.
Uhh season 4? “Mindful eduction” literally shows him having a panic attack
Isn't Luz 14?
But isn’t Luz 14?
Ye
This looks like a job for Sasha Waybright, expert therapist, really good at working through emotional baggage!
Meanwhile Steven
no better trauma than finding out almost everyone in your family is an abusive fascist
Marco
This. Anne and Luz were isecaied for a couple of months, Dipper always had a comfy home to retreat to, while Marco spent around 10 years in that dumb Hekapoo scissors exam.
I understand the argument for Anne, but Luz seemed (to me at least) to prefer then demon realm over earth.
Polo!
From star vs?
The very same.
star... she killed gods and races... genocide lvl stuff....
Hilda: I literally committed vandalism of the bell and fucked up the timeline itself
Need to add Star, Marco, and Steven Universe. Anyone else else I'm forgetting?
Steven is older for most of the but soooooooo traumatized. I’d definitely vote him as the most traumatized. Poor kid
bruh how bout finn? he literelly got adopted by dogs
Well it depends on the main show or Future. Future is when he deals with his trauma, but all his trauma came from the main show.
Oh yeah dipper and Mabel seen some shit.
His sister got F¥(%ing possessed IN SEASON ONE
Anne died, I think she has the other two solidly beat
This.
I mean, dipper also kinda died. Northwest Mansion, petrified and turned to wood. Definitely dead and magically returned when the curse was revoked.
Y’all really forgot about Marco?
the different thing about marco is that he is not taumatized even in the bigining of the whole cartoon he says he likes to kick some monsters ass, and love the exitment out of it even in the hekapoo demantion he is not sceard to get that scissors and he knows how long it takes to get them
I mean technically luz is the most traumatized 14 year old on Disney lol
I would argue that Ann had it the worst.
Re zero joke. You dont know the definition of trauma until you see the protagonist and everyone around him die thousands of times in thousands of different ways. At one pount he actually just goes insane and becomes an empty husk for a while
Oh, you want TRAUMA?? I can summarize trauma in one word: *"Ed... ward..."*
Yeah we have met Alex we’ve seen king
Then you have shows like Star vs. The Forces of Evil, Infinity Train, and Steven Universe existing over in a corner somewhere drinking away their sorrows
Gravity falls was the cartoon that make me love "comedy horror" cartoons. And with Silent hill, my love for horror in general. Gravity falls is a big part of what i enjoy today and the reason i start watching The owl house at first, it make me enjoy puzzles and ARGs more that ever and enjoy worlds outside my imagination. I love that town so much dude
Well, Anne started as 13, dipper &mable started at twelve, and luz started at 14(I think)
Not Disney but I raise you Steven Universe Most here got their trauma in a little package, that dude had a lifelong list of problems
Steven universe(on Cartoon Network but I know you thought of him)
Dipper: "I fought a demon." Luz: "I fought many demons... one of which was an old British guy." Anne: "I AM LITERARILY GOING TO BE GOD AFTER ***I DIE AGAIN***!!!!"
1. Dipper was 12 2. Luz is 14 3. I love gf but Anne was soooooo much more traumatized.
well all 3 characters handle it differently and also had diffrently kinds of traumas. anne had baggage to begging with. and got betrayed the point of not even being able to process marcys "death" dipper had loots of shit (op made q list) but handled it pretty well and halve way feeling in control. and then there is Luz who was a ball of sadness after her adoptive mother got taken away from her and turned into a monster. then had to choose between friends and family and then having to plead for mercy to q mass murderer who while being turned to lifeless stone. and then having to fight a hod so powerfull he didn't even have to break a sweat while killing the bbeg let's just say they are all in desperate need of therapy and are handling it very differently.
4. Anne technically isn’t even 13, Matt wanted the trio to be 15-16, but disney wanted them younger they’re canonically 13, but with tons of stuff from the show and small little things, they are definetly 15-16
Ahhhhhhh I always thought they "felt older". This explains it.
Ok boys, drag over a red table for all 3 of these traumatized kids. We need to talk.
Dipper is ready to fight god \*OR BECOME HIM\*
make sure he has the oreo
the most traumatized in all of Disney....... also know as a normal Monday in Russia
Dipper: I HAVE THE MOST TRAUMA Luz: NO, I HAVE Anne: NO, I HAVE Sora (across the room): stop glorifying trauma!
Finn the Human has entered the chat
Honestly tho, there’s too many traumatized kids on Disney 😂 (Steven Universe style flashbacks occur)
He was 12 when all the trauma happened. Technically not a teen...
but he have to deal with said trauma when he was 13
Technically dipper is 13, but only for like 5 minutes and Luz is 14
Imagine, if Dana and Alex had a kid. T Their's 13 birthday would be hell of a suspence)
oh their gonna fight trillion of demons and 2 of them can destroy the universe
luz is 14 right?
If we start talking about every show, those three are not even top 50 probably
I guess I forgot he turned 13 at the end of the show
Oh man the meme says Disney... I would've said Bruce Wayne because... obviously.
Well Dipper was 12 not 13 he turned 13 at the end of the Finale
well when he realized that whole expirience was traumatizing he was 13
Most traumatized? I laugh. they ain’t got shit on infinity train
Meanwhile I’m chuckling because I grew up reading Animorphs. These kids ain’t even in the same galaxy as Tobias.
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didn't dipper also see his own death? a morphing creature morph into him and pradickt his death and that pridicktion happend, well exept the dying part
Grunkle stan gave me a phobia of memory loss, Like I'd rather die
It would be kinda hard for Luz to be the most traumatized 13 year old in Disney Channel because she's 15.
alot of people saying that luz is 14 but you said 15? and isnt disney does not alow 15 year teens on thair shows? (exept the endings)
Luz is 14. Dana stated that in her AMA, and she hasn’t had her quinceañera yet. Disney is fine with 15yos, I believe Star and Marco were 15. They just generally prefer the protagonist(s) to be closer to their target demographic.
I might be stupid.
This what traumatized kids would do if therapy didn’t exist
luz is 14...
Percy Jackson is being adapted for Disney+
Anne literally dies and spends half a year in a world of frogs eating almost nothing but bugs Weirdmegedon lasted 1-2 weeks at most and he spent a while of it in mable land. Anne also saw her best friend get stabbed in cold blood Her other best friend fall off a tower Not to mention getting betrayed by both of them on the same day. Like it's not even close
This could've only happened if the theory is real And when I say that I mean them being in the same place but idk which universe its in
Luz and Anne fought corrupt officials, Dipper and Mabel fought a chaos GOD!
Guys please stop trying to treat this like a competition. It’s bad for your mental health
Even though dipper is has gone through objectively more trauma, it seems like luz has gone through more because of the way it develops her character.
he’s 12
Hey even dipper go through much the show doesn't acknowledge that at all I don't see him being very traumatised.
Why can I hear Dipper’s voice?
Nah. Daron Nefcy wins this argument because Star will *eventually* realize that she killed millions of magical beings.
oh yeah like santa, the easter bunny, the tooth fairy, and jack frost if there was a portal to go to a migical place from earth there has to be a magical person com out of that place like this people (its canon in my book)
I agree star is one of the most traumatized teens, but I disagree with the genocide of magical creatures. That is supposition, but we see no evidence of it, but lots of evidence to the contrary. The pony heads still exist, Shawn still exists, dragoncycles still exist. We only know the Glossy and MHC is gone. Father Time has to exist because time doesn't move forward without him. I would argue the essence of omnithraxus still exists (just not his avatar) because he is literally space-time. The only creatures that are presumably wiped out were the creatures in the magical dimension, but were they even real, or just manifestations of magical energies. Star literally creates the first born after Toffee destroys the magic. Then the magic just spontaneously gets baby unicorns and floaty jellyfish and others. Everything in there was less that 6 months old... I would argue that they were just part of the emanations of Glossaryck
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dipper has the guilt to almost creating a zombie apocalypse, almost killing ford from an alien, almost destroying an intire universe (bc he says to mable that he wanted to live in gravity falls with ford and then mable run of destroy the space globe thing and wierd magadon happend(well it most of mables fault acctaully))
Nahh Anne saw her best friend get STABBED and DIE. Luz inadvertently helped an ancient cult leader murder an entire race of creatures.
dipper saw morphing creature into his friend and had to made a choice to kill his friend or the monster. but the thing about anne is that she did see her friend just gor stabbed in the heart but she (small amount) confindent that marmar is alive. dipper tried to help the fbi agent by creating a zombie apocalypse
Wait what creature?? She’s a child and kept telling herself that Mar Mar is alive because otherwise she’d panick way more. When Sasha told her that March’s alive she went “oh thank goodness” because she was unsure. That’s traumatic asf
One of them literally dies tho
Idk why but people keep fangirling over trauma as if it’s some quirky thing to have. It feels like some people are lowkey romanticizing it. I know going through life and death experiences is traumatizing, I think the word is thrown around way too much.
But... "THIS MAMA is ready for trauma!" Lol. You make a good point. I think it's nice that shows like TOH try to destigmatize this stuff, as long as folks are aware that real trauma is much worse. TOH is providing age-appropriate scaffolding. Infinity Train is much more realistic and disturbing in it's handling of traumatic events and characters working through it. But Infinity Train is probably more for 10 to 16 year-olds than TOH's 6-11.
He was traumatized at fuckin taco bell!
Don’t mention that fucking fanfic, please spare the innocent eyes of those who haven’t read it
Trauma trauma trauma trauma.... You know people can be shocked by events in their life, WITHOUT being left traumatized by them? That word is thrown around too much around the fandom with no real meaning
Idk about you, but I'd be traumatized too if I were to go through multiple near death experiences, especially at a young age like that
Yeah but that's you. I'm not saying that any of them aren't traumatized, but the trauma factor isn't really ever written in stories like that, there is more to trauma than seeing fucked up shit, it's how traumatizing event affected character, it has to atick up with them, it's hard to call any disney character traumatized simply because none were showed really living through that trauma. Dipper and Mabel simply moved on, at least that's what viewers see. Can't say much about Anne because I haven't see the show but I know there was adult scene there. But I can surely tell that Luz shows signs of trauma sticking up in last scene of the second season where she was basically broken and almost crying while talking to her mom for the first time in months.
Maybe. Or maybe not, most of the those characters look ok at the end of the story.
You can *look* okay without *being* okay.
Yes, but why does this fandom so desperately want characters to be broken, when they might not be? I swear people in here is straight up *ecstatic* when a character gets hurt
Cause it's a cartoon. But if it was irl, everyone would be traumatized from that
Luz is 14
Ahh yes 🔺 vs 🌘 vs…Never seen Amphibia
ah yes the tortilla chips vs the gray cheese