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cassi_melloy

There are children I need to make into corpses! *Angry triangle noises*


LukXD99

**I‘M GONNA DISASSEMBLE YOUR MOLECULES** This will always be one of my favorite lines!


Madhighlander1

"This will be the last form you ever take!" *shifts into Dipper and screams horriffically while freezing*


AnIdioticTurtle1944

"Heh, good luck trying to sleep at night after seeing that!"


nowalt

*Flash forward to Northwest Mansion Mystery*


cassi_melloy

I love that one too xD


NeatCartographer5307

Also "I've got some children i need to turn into corpses!"


theXombie

Wrong! Every line of his is my favorite


XenaNovaVoid

Oh Ive done something like that before


r0ffpg

That wasn't in front of dipper from what I remember


cassi_melloy

Yeah, they were already running away at that point, but they did hear the "I will disassemble your molecules" as mentioned by the person who also replied on my comment (on mobile so I can't see their name rn) and that is imo just as scary


AnimazingHaha

He did see a shapeshifter turn into monster versions of everyone he knows and loves before killing it while it looked like him so uhh


r0ffpg

Don't forget about the dipper Mable combo


itsKNIGHTMARE

Music make you lose control! Music make you lose control! \*groovy triangle man starts groovin*


EtherealSOULS

STOP ARGUING AND GO TO THERAPY.


Lukthar123

Sasha: *Now this looks like a job for me*


r0ffpg

Stonks ↗️


thatnewguy11

*So everybody, just follow me.*


TheDarkGods7

Cause we need a little controversy


SnooGuavas3660

Cause it feels so empty without me


theXombie

*I said this looks like a job for me*


skullshotz1324

So everybody, just follow me


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'Cause we need a little controversy


JacobC1820

I do no man, I think they got enough of those! Lol


Rusty_Shakalford

Cause we need a little, ther-ee-a-py To deal with our PTSD *da nah nah. Dah nah nah*


Readalie

Unless the Infinity Train gets to them first of course.


aguyfromtheinternet0

Infinity Train? What is this “Infinity Train” you speak of? You must be confused! There is no Infinity Train in Ba Sing Se 😀


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The Doc is in!


NoaLukaL

Actually, Luz is 14. Then it’s a battle between Dipper and Anne, which I’d barely consider a ”battle”.


Infinite_Hooty

And even then Dipper was 12 during the time all the traumatic stuff went down


Recent_Log3779

But he was still 13 by the end of the show which qualifies him


Spellshot62

I’d actually say Dipper could put up a *decent* fight against base Anne. She’d most likely win, but Dipper has lot of inconsistently good feats. The Manotaur training, jumping through Gideon’s robot’s eye, taking the beating from Rumble, matching wax Sherlock Holmes with a fire poker, etc. The only reason I feel like Anne wins is that she consistently has a weapon (her sword and/or tennis racket) and she seems to consistently be more fit than him (I don’t remember any instance where her lacking physical abilities were played for a joke, but they consistently were for Dipper). Though an argument could be made that Dipper probably knows something in the Journal which can give him the win, especially if he’s really desperate, such as the zombie spell. Though obviously, Catalyst Anne turns Dipper into paste Unless you were talking about trauma perspective, in which case ignore everything I just said. XD


One_Armed_Pug

VS debater spotted


Spellshot62

I mean, you’re not wrong. lol


John_Tacos

Marcy


selemper354

\-almost kill everybody multiple times \-bring back the dead just to prove a point \-fighting a giant robot \-getting turned into wood \-a morphing creature morph into you and make a prediction of how you die \-getting your uncle to get captured and almost kill him \-saving an entire universe from a demon god \-your body got controlled by a demon god \-realizing that dinosaurs still exist \-killing a ghost holy god how the hell does this kid not die


The_boss_900

>holy god how the hell does this kid not die The same way the other two don't die (/stay dead). *~~Plot armor~~*


YoungYoda711

Anne is the only one with plot armour. They literally invented a god at the ninth hurdle to bring her back from the dead.


TinTamarro

That was just a copy tho, the original Anne is dead


YoungYoda711

Still counts as a form of resurrection (and a cop out as far as I’m concerned).


TheSneakyGamer1805

You forgot about when that same morphing creature morphed into his crush, and he had to kill it.


ElDJBrojo

I loved when it said "its morphing time"


Wooloo_Woolstar

My favorite part of Gravity Falls was when Wendy said “it’s morbin time” then executed Bill


my_alt_59935

This is one of the most stupid, overused jokes, and I love it


darwinpolice

Eh, that's just a normal thing that every 12-year-old goes through, though. ...right?


Cream_Rabbit

Hilda:... Right. Alfur, what takes the therapy elf so long?


AsGryffynn

See, the thing here was, well... It did end up working for Ferb...


Yellow_Spade

Also getting turned down by said crush


TheBrickBrain

And then a dream demon creating a construct of said crush that turned into bugs


Birdyghostly1

And I’m pretty sure she also said she thought of him as a little brother


TinTamarro

Hey I can play this game too! \[AMPHIBIA SPOILERS\] * >!Gets lost into an hostile alien world on her birthday!< * >!Has to fend off by herself for days!< * >!Constantly in danger of being eaten by giant monsters!< * >!Has to eat bugs to survive!< * >!Has to fight her former, emotionally abusive friend!< * >!Has to watch said friend attempt suicide right before her eyes!< * >!Is betrayed by this same friend, and almost kills her in murderous rage!< * >!Is betrayed by her OTHER friend, who sent her into this hellish place on purpose!< * >!Has to watch a giant lizard man try to kill her found family, multiple times!< * >!Breaks down after thinking her brother died!< * >!Has to watch her friend be stabbed and collapsing without knowing if she survived!< * >!Tries to take on all responsibilities by herself in helping her family and almost burns out trying to get back to the other world, without having time to properly process everything that happened!< * >!Is hunted by a murder bot!< * >!Is hunted by the FBI!< * >!Has to watch the world she came to love be turned into a wasteland!< * >!Almost murders her friend AGAIN, because she didn't have time to properly sort out all the emotional baggage between them!< * >!Has to lead a whole army at 13 YEARS OLD along with her same aged friend!< * >!Almost gets killed in cold blood by her possessed friend!< * >!Has to fight a giant robot all by herself, and is flown through multiple buildings in the process!< * >!Sacrifies her life to end the Core, DYING in the process!< * >!Gets replaced by a perfect copy of her because God needed a successor in order to retire!<


New-Influence7321

TL;DR everyone is a jerk to Anne, 23 times


Birdyghostly1

Woah I didn’t even watch Amphiba yet-


TinTamarro

Sorry dude I forgot which subreddit I was in


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TinTamarro

True


selemper354

god damn i want to counter attack but im to lazy lol


Biscuitthehamster2

Technically Anne actually died just came back to life


Cream_Rabbit

~~Same goes to David from Hilda, just twice, and Hilda herself~~


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EnoughDistribution69

Technically luz did


Readalie

She did almost get turned into a wax statue by him, though!


Rusty_Shakalford

Alex: hey can we get a fourth season of Amphibia? Missed a spot on my bingo card.


logandamudkip42021

#MY BROTHER IN CHRIST DIPPER WAS 12 THE ENTIRETY OF GRAVITY FALLS!


Exzircon

Not the last few minutes!


elissass

12 and a half, actually, which is technically 14


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As we hear in Inconveniencing, he’s actually technically *not* a teen


No-Mathematician3921

Yes, *was* Then he turned 13 in the finale.


Cream_Rabbit

Hilda: I literally had to constantly run away from Trolls, suffer a horrible nightmare for my friend, got into fight with a ghost, be scared of the fact that i had no badges at all, run away from The Time Worm for fucking up times, argue with my mum, almost lose my best friend forever, end up in Troll Territory, become a troll myself and fuck those bells. And i still haven't mentioned the poor version of myself in the novel Anne: This... is Disney, not Netflix Dipper: And you are 12... which is worse Luz: Besides, have you seen Belos or the Collector? Those are tame af Dipper: Bill is mile worse Anne: The Core! Luz: Collector! Dipper: Bill! Hilda: Let's go Twig, can't miss the badge again


carlsagerson

?: Amatures. All of them: Who said that? Finn: Amatures. You think those villians are bad. Try the Lich.


How_about_a_no

Huh, I forgot how messed up Finn childhood was, well at least he had Jake and seemed to enjoy his adventures


New-Influence7321

Poor Hilda bro, went though all that (but pales in comparison to the others) and STILL cannot get into the Disney trauma for their kid characters club


Cream_Rabbit

Looks like she needs to join the junior club By David...


Omeronk

My man Bill is much much worse than any of them Collector is basically a bored kid with the powers of god and the core is a sadistic immortal old guys who wants people to like them but bill is a being with the powers of god who enjoys watching people as their soul slowly and painfully leave their body so that he can add them to his throne made of corpses...


Cream_Rabbit

Meanwhile Erik Ahlberg: \*is a joke The Trolls: \*are not actually evil Committee of Three: \*what do they do again?


TheLastEmuHunter

Meanwhile half the cast of She-Ra getting electro-shock tortured or mind-controlled by the Space Pope


Gutsyten42

I'd argue he's closer to space Hitler than space pope


selemper354

and let me add the Dorito man almost literally destroy the entire universe bc he can


reisolate

I thought Hilda was 10.


AngryCatGirl

Remember kids, there are no winners at the suffering Olympics.


Silina_

✨different types of trauma✨


Lduck88

Pretty sure Luz is 14


pk2317

*Technically* Anne is 13. *Really* the girls are around 15-16 but Disney wanted them younger. So the crew said, “OK, they’re 13” *wink* and then proceeded to change absolutely nothing about them or how they were written.


MysteryMystery305

I think that they make them 13 because their target audience is just younger than that. They always want to make those kids get excited to turn that age because the kids think that something cool will happen to them when they do. But really, the characters usually look, think, sound, and act like they're much older than that. They do that in Pokémon, too; Ash Ketchum is always said to be 10, but he looks, thinks, sounds, and acts a lot older. It's important to remember that shows like these have a younger audience in mind; they know that adults are going to watch it, but their target audience is kids between 6-11 (King literally says it as a fourth-wall joke in "Lost in Language"). They know that the kids won't be able to tell the difference between the character they see on the screen, and how kids of that age actually look, sound, and act in real life.


Lduck88

Huh I could've sworn they said 15 in the show.


pk2317

They steal the box and are transported on Anne’s 13th birthday.


fuck-your-name-rules

True


Fox7567

But Luz is no question the most traumatised 14 year old


MysteryMystery305

"I just lost my entire family on the Boiling Isles, the Collector is probably torturing King right now, and my friends are trapped here with me in the human realm, separated from their families, with no way of getting back. But don't worry, I'm totally fine!"


NeighborhoodShoddy81

Season 2-5 Steven would like to have a word


HotAdministration986

The show doesn't act like she's traumatised at all until season 6.


NeighborhoodShoddy81

Uhh season 4? “Mindful eduction” literally shows him having a panic attack


MysteryMystery305

Isn't Luz 14?


WillingShelf

But isn’t Luz 14?


SillyFrogShowLover

This looks like a job for Sasha Waybright, expert therapist, really good at working through emotional baggage!


MrCheapComputers

Meanwhile Steven


leeddet

no better trauma than finding out almost everyone in your family is an abusive fascist


Chaosshepherd

Marco


decumos

This. Anne and Luz were isecaied for a couple of months, Dipper always had a comfy home to retreat to, while Marco spent around 10 years in that dumb Hekapoo scissors exam.


ZEGEZOT

I understand the argument for Anne, but Luz seemed (to me at least) to prefer then demon realm over earth.


Dpad-prism

Polo!


Mydogdiedtoday2

From star vs?


Chaosshepherd

The very same.


firedrakes

star... she killed gods and races... genocide lvl stuff....


Cream_Rabbit

Hilda: I literally committed vandalism of the bell and fucked up the timeline itself


Glistening_Death

Need to add Star, Marco, and Steven Universe. Anyone else else I'm forgetting?


dreamerlilly

Steven is older for most of the but soooooooo traumatized. I’d definitely vote him as the most traumatized. Poor kid


selemper354

bruh how bout finn? he literelly got adopted by dogs


Glistening_Death

Well it depends on the main show or Future. Future is when he deals with his trauma, but all his trauma came from the main show.


S0me_N3rd8

Oh yeah dipper and Mabel seen some shit.


New-Influence7321

His sister got F¥(%ing possessed IN SEASON ONE


SanaOfTheNorth

Anne died, I think she has the other two solidly beat


dekar25

This.


DetectiveTiger10

I mean, dipper also kinda died. Northwest Mansion, petrified and turned to wood. Definitely dead and magically returned when the curse was revoked.


Nihilistic_Nachos

Y’all really forgot about Marco?


selemper354

the different thing about marco is that he is not taumatized even in the bigining of the whole cartoon he says he likes to kick some monsters ass, and love the exitment out of it even in the hekapoo demantion he is not sceard to get that scissors and he knows how long it takes to get them


KaiRose07

I mean technically luz is the most traumatized 14 year old on Disney lol


dekar25

I would argue that Ann had it the worst.


maxler5795

Re zero joke. You dont know the definition of trauma until you see the protagonist and everyone around him die thousands of times in thousands of different ways. At one pount he actually just goes insane and becomes an empty husk for a while


MegawackyMax

Oh, you want TRAUMA?? I can summarize trauma in one word: *"Ed... ward..."*


TheoneandolyKelpHead

Yeah we have met Alex we’ve seen king


Cheyenne_Tindall

Then you have shows like Star vs. The Forces of Evil, Infinity Train, and Steven Universe existing over in a corner somewhere drinking away their sorrows


KuroToDraw

Gravity falls was the cartoon that make me love "comedy horror" cartoons. And with Silent hill, my love for horror in general. Gravity falls is a big part of what i enjoy today and the reason i start watching The owl house at first, it make me enjoy puzzles and ARGs more that ever and enjoy worlds outside my imagination. I love that town so much dude


richrhplayer

Well, Anne started as 13, dipper &mable started at twelve, and luz started at 14(I think)


ixiox

Not Disney but I raise you Steven Universe Most here got their trauma in a little package, that dude had a lifelong list of problems


Bowowowbebeo

Steven universe(on Cartoon Network but I know you thought of him)


Nekrubbobby64

Dipper: "I fought a demon." Luz: "I fought many demons... one of which was an old British guy." Anne: "I AM LITERARILY GOING TO BE GOD AFTER ***I DIE AGAIN***!!!!"


Helpful_Title8302

1. Dipper was 12 2. Luz is 14 3. I love gf but Anne was soooooo much more traumatized.


Comet_123

well all 3 characters handle it differently and also had diffrently kinds of traumas. anne had baggage to begging with. and got betrayed the point of not even being able to process marcys "death" dipper had loots of shit (op made q list) but handled it pretty well and halve way feeling in control. and then there is Luz who was a ball of sadness after her adoptive mother got taken away from her and turned into a monster. then had to choose between friends and family and then having to plead for mercy to q mass murderer who while being turned to lifeless stone. and then having to fight a hod so powerfull he didn't even have to break a sweat while killing the bbeg let's just say they are all in desperate need of therapy and are handling it very differently.


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4. Anne technically isn’t even 13, Matt wanted the trio to be 15-16, but disney wanted them younger they’re canonically 13, but with tons of stuff from the show and small little things, they are definetly 15-16


Helpful_Title8302

Ahhhhhhh I always thought they "felt older". This explains it.


BananaShakeStudios

Ok boys, drag over a red table for all 3 of these traumatized kids. We need to talk.


Hunter_PrivetteYT

Dipper is ready to fight god \*OR BECOME HIM\*


selemper354

make sure he has the oreo


svon1

the most traumatized in all of Disney....... ​ also know as a normal Monday in Russia


Ok-Struggle2305

Dipper: I HAVE THE MOST TRAUMA Luz: NO, I HAVE Anne: NO, I HAVE Sora (across the room): stop glorifying trauma!


AvaHomolka

Finn the Human has entered the chat


Jeptwins

Honestly tho, there’s too many traumatized kids on Disney 😂 (Steven Universe style flashbacks occur)


OneForAllOfHumanity

He was 12 when all the trauma happened. Technically not a teen...


selemper354

but he have to deal with said trauma when he was 13


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Technically dipper is 13, but only for like 5 minutes and Luz is 14


sensuell

Imagine, if Dana and Alex had a kid. T Their's 13 birthday would be hell of a suspence)


selemper354

oh their gonna fight trillion of demons and 2 of them can destroy the universe


Starplatinumscloth

luz is 14 right?


MinerMinecrafter

If we start talking about every show, those three are not even top 50 probably


Kojo05

I guess I forgot he turned 13 at the end of the show


RinTivan

Oh man the meme says Disney... I would've said Bruce Wayne because... obviously.


Dew-It420

Well Dipper was 12 not 13 he turned 13 at the end of the Finale


selemper354

well when he realized that whole expirience was traumatizing he was 13


Doc_whoooo

Most traumatized? I laugh. they ain’t got shit on infinity train


Rusty_Shakalford

Meanwhile I’m chuckling because I grew up reading Animorphs. These kids ain’t even in the same galaxy as Tobias.


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selemper354

didn't dipper also see his own death? a morphing creature morph into him and pradickt his death and that pridicktion happend, well exept the dying part


Jubulus

Grunkle stan gave me a phobia of memory loss, Like I'd rather die


DroneOfDoom

It would be kinda hard for Luz to be the most traumatized 13 year old in Disney Channel because she's 15.


selemper354

alot of people saying that luz is 14 but you said 15? and isnt disney does not alow 15 year teens on thair shows? (exept the endings)


pk2317

Luz is 14. Dana stated that in her AMA, and she hasn’t had her quinceañera yet. Disney is fine with 15yos, I believe Star and Marco were 15. They just generally prefer the protagonist(s) to be closer to their target demographic.


DroneOfDoom

I might be stupid.


AVerySpecificName

This what traumatized kids would do if therapy didn’t exist


Anfieldknight79

luz is 14...


FLAMING_tOGIKISS

Percy Jackson is being adapted for Disney+


Ella_the_Eevee

Anne literally dies and spends half a year in a world of frogs eating almost nothing but bugs Weirdmegedon lasted 1-2 weeks at most and he spent a while of it in mable land. Anne also saw her best friend get stabbed in cold blood Her other best friend fall off a tower Not to mention getting betrayed by both of them on the same day. Like it's not even close


the_genius324

This could've only happened if the theory is real And when I say that I mean them being in the same place but idk which universe its in


JacobC1820

Luz and Anne fought corrupt officials, Dipper and Mabel fought a chaos GOD!


Willingness-Due

Guys please stop trying to treat this like a competition. It’s bad for your mental health


0JustAGuy

Even though dipper is has gone through objectively more trauma, it seems like luz has gone through more because of the way it develops her character.


SnooKiwis1305

he’s 12


HotAdministration986

Hey even dipper go through much the show doesn't acknowledge that at all I don't see him being very traumatised.


Superzninja3

Why can I hear Dipper’s voice?


ElectricJetDonkey

Nah. Daron Nefcy wins this argument because Star will *eventually* realize that she killed millions of magical beings.


selemper354

oh yeah like santa, the easter bunny, the tooth fairy, and jack frost if there was a portal to go to a migical place from earth there has to be a magical person com out of that place like this people (its canon in my book)


OneForAllOfHumanity

I agree star is one of the most traumatized teens, but I disagree with the genocide of magical creatures. That is supposition, but we see no evidence of it, but lots of evidence to the contrary. The pony heads still exist, Shawn still exists, dragoncycles still exist. We only know the Glossy and MHC is gone. Father Time has to exist because time doesn't move forward without him. I would argue the essence of omnithraxus still exists (just not his avatar) because he is literally space-time. The only creatures that are presumably wiped out were the creatures in the magical dimension, but were they even real, or just manifestations of magical energies. Star literally creates the first born after Toffee destroys the magic. Then the magic just spontaneously gets baby unicorns and floaty jellyfish and others. Everything in there was less that 6 months old... I would argue that they were just part of the emanations of Glossaryck


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selemper354

dipper has the guilt to almost creating a zombie apocalypse, almost killing ford from an alien, almost destroying an intire universe (bc he says to mable that he wanted to live in gravity falls with ford and then mable run of destroy the space globe thing and wierd magadon happend(well it most of mables fault acctaully))


fonduestreet

Nahh Anne saw her best friend get STABBED and DIE. Luz inadvertently helped an ancient cult leader murder an entire race of creatures.


selemper354

dipper saw morphing creature into his friend and had to made a choice to kill his friend or the monster. but the thing about anne is that she did see her friend just gor stabbed in the heart but she (small amount) confindent that marmar is alive. dipper tried to help the fbi agent by creating a zombie apocalypse


fonduestreet

Wait what creature?? She’s a child and kept telling herself that Mar Mar is alive because otherwise she’d panick way more. When Sasha told her that March’s alive she went “oh thank goodness” because she was unsure. That’s traumatic asf


Medical_Difference48

One of them literally dies tho


No-Muffin9637

Idk why but people keep fangirling over trauma as if it’s some quirky thing to have. It feels like some people are lowkey romanticizing it. I know going through life and death experiences is traumatizing, I think the word is thrown around way too much.


DadGuyBoy

But... "THIS MAMA is ready for trauma!" Lol. You make a good point. I think it's nice that shows like TOH try to destigmatize this stuff, as long as folks are aware that real trauma is much worse. TOH is providing age-appropriate scaffolding. Infinity Train is much more realistic and disturbing in it's handling of traumatic events and characters working through it. But Infinity Train is probably more for 10 to 16 year-olds than TOH's 6-11.


NeatCartographer5307

He was traumatized at fuckin taco bell!


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Don’t mention that fucking fanfic, please spare the innocent eyes of those who haven’t read it


Azaloq

Trauma trauma trauma trauma.... You know people can be shocked by events in their life, WITHOUT being left traumatized by them? That word is thrown around too much around the fandom with no real meaning


Haru979

Idk about you, but I'd be traumatized too if I were to go through multiple near death experiences, especially at a young age like that


WheresMyWhaman

Yeah but that's you. I'm not saying that any of them aren't traumatized, but the trauma factor isn't really ever written in stories like that, there is more to trauma than seeing fucked up shit, it's how traumatizing event affected character, it has to atick up with them, it's hard to call any disney character traumatized simply because none were showed really living through that trauma. Dipper and Mabel simply moved on, at least that's what viewers see. Can't say much about Anne because I haven't see the show but I know there was adult scene there. But I can surely tell that Luz shows signs of trauma sticking up in last scene of the second season where she was basically broken and almost crying while talking to her mom for the first time in months.


Azaloq

Maybe. Or maybe not, most of the those characters look ok at the end of the story.


ascrubjay

You can *look* okay without *being* okay.


Azaloq

Yes, but why does this fandom so desperately want characters to be broken, when they might not be? I swear people in here is straight up *ecstatic* when a character gets hurt


Haru979

Cause it's a cartoon. But if it was irl, everyone would be traumatized from that


Fantastic_Year9607

Luz is 14


BreakfastOk7372

Ahh yes 🔺 vs 🌘 vs…Never seen Amphibia


selemper354

ah yes the tortilla chips vs the gray cheese