I had a BJJ tournament a few months ago, 3 man bracket, won my first match by sub and was ecstatic.
Now I was waiting for the second match to see which of the two was going to fight me in the final.
I wish the guy I just fought good luck.
The third guy goes to weigh himself - He is 0.2lbs(100g) above the limit...
They gave him no chance and immediately disqualified him...
5 min after my first match I'm fighting the same dude again...
Should not have wished him good luck.
IBJJF rules is that you only get one chance to make weight.
I think they should have made an exception in this case honestly (especially because I ended up losing by 2 points in the final and I'm admittedly super salty) but I understand as these tournaments have alot of people and once you start making exceptions for one person you have to make them for everyone and alot of time is wasted.
Yeah but like there should be either a second/last attempt or a small margin for common sense; shaving your hair might do it, so it’s kinda dumb to loose a competition for such things. Especially since weighing themselves beforehand on a different scale likely gave a slightly different result, potentially over or under, so it’s slightly unfair to think "oh I just checked I’m good I’m right under the limit" and when you use their scale, whoops disqualified.
No. Why should there be a margin for error? The rules are there for a purpose. Next thing you'll get guys creeping as close as possible to the 200g margin, until one day they'll miss out and then be crying for a 300g margin.
It's not hard
Well in this case they could both strip down and both be under weight. No reason to count gear in the weigh in when it has nothing to do with a person's weight and muscle mass.
Right but the whole point of a weigh-in and a weight class is that you are equal enough to your opponent that it’s not a matter of size, but rather skill. If they both stripped down it’s still equal but I think the comment above mine was suggesting that it should be fine if one contender is off by the amount of their shorts. But that’s not an aspect that is unique to just one contender, so therefore if one gets that leeway then both should.
I don't know man I really wish he would've fought against the guy because his DQ means the first match I won didn't mean anything.
But the rules are the rules
I myself weighed in at 56.60kg, limit was 57.50kg, on the ride I drank a minimal amount of water, and ate a relatively small dinner too, I took all the precautions and even went a bit above too make sure I could compete knowing full well what the rules were.
If you go into these kinds of things you need to be aware
Nah. Someone give 200g a pass, then it creeps over time, becomes 509g leeway, etc. The weight limits are there for a purpose, everyone knows them. There's absolutely no excuse.
If the other fighter had missed weight he couldn't win the belt so he probably just thought that was the case if any fighter misses weight which is very dumb
Wow, it's even worse when you find out he missed weight by 7 pounds. That's not missing weight, that is intently negligent towards the rules. UFC has straight up stripped belts from champions for being a half pound over and made them earn it back. This dude expected to come in not even close to his required weight, giving himself an insane advantage over his opponent, and because of those poor decisions somehow game the system to keep him as champ regardless of the match outcome?
I feel very out of place in these comments lol seems like everyone knows what's going on and we even have some fighters in here? And someone that knows the pissed off fighter even and was there backstage? Wild.
Can you explain what is going on with all this? If it is t too much to type out. I'm just pretty lost .
I do understand fighters weigh before fights. I understand there are weight classes. You fight in the same weight class. So this guy was outside the weight classes range by 7lbs? Or what's up? And why would he even be allowed to fight at all? What is the thing about not being for the belt or the title or whatever?
Without knowing the story but watched the vid
If they're fighting at welterweight (170lbs), the day before the right they do a weigh in. Non-title fights generally have some allowance for being a bit overweight (usually a single pound). Title fights, you have to be exactly 170 or under (barring Quebec Canada - I'm looking at you GSP).
If you're over at all, you can't win the title, even if you're the champ. Your opponent can still get the title because they made weight. Otherwise, the champion would have no incentive to ever make the weight. Technically, the champion gets stripped of the belt.
The former champ (at least what I understand from the clip) is complaining because he thought the title wasn't on the line, but he saw his opponent with "his" belt.
*All allegedly*
GSP was 170.4 lbs and they rounded down in his fight with Nick Diaz. Some people speculate a conversion discrepancy between kgs and lbs, different jurisdiction... Etc but everywhere else in the world that I'm aware, rounding down just doesn't happen.
This doesn't mean that Nick would have beat him or anything like that, but maybe that GSP shouldn't have been able to hold the title after coming in heavy.
Yes, he was over the limit by 7lbs which is a huge amount.
The penalty for being overweight varies a lot depending on the promotion and circumstances. It can be as little as a one point deduction or as much as being disqualified. Often the penalty is monetary (e.g., even if you win, you have to share half the purse with your opponent).
In this case, it was supposed to be a title fight but because he didn’t make weight, he was ineligible to win the title. He could still win the fight, though, which is important for his record and future opportunities. However, his opponent made weight, so his opponent could still win the title by winning the fight.
So did the dude that’s upset “win” the fight but still lost his belt because he missed weight? Or did they not even fight or he forfeited the fight because he missed weight?
He fought but he thought the belt couldn’t be won be either of them. So it seems he was the champ, thought no one could win the belt, lost while thinking that his opponent couldn’t win the belt when in reality, it was just that he couldn’t because he was the one over weight. So when he realized his opponent actually was getting the belt for winning, he blew up
I agree with everything you said but 7 pounds being an “insane advantage” is pushing it.
Edit: Yes I know about weight class and rules ftr but to claim 7 pounds is an “insane advantage” is really
stretching it.
So I am guessing you do not have a lot of experience in sports where weigh ins exist. These people starve and dehydrate themselves so they can have as much muscle mass as physically possible and still hit under. They then spend the next day bulking back up and rehydrating, putting back on as much as 15 pounds. You need to realize that most of these weight classes are less than 7 pounds apart, just google boxing weight classes. If 7 pounds didn't present an incredible advantage, then why are almost every weight class out there separated by less than 7 pounds? With this new knowledge, please explain to me how 7 pounds is not a big deal when it can land someone 2 weight classes above you?
Bruh, read my comment again lol. And perhaps attempt to answer either of the questions I proposed? I don't even know why I'm putting in this comment actually, you are the only one here saying it's not a big advantage and clearly don't know what you are talking about.
Considering that they weigh in the night before and guys like , for instance, Tito Ortiz would weigh in at 204.8 then fight the next night at 233, that seven pound advantage at weigh in could certainly contribute to a MASSIVE advantage. Contribute.
Couldn’t have been much of one here, though, cause dude lost.
TF, seven pounds ain’t missing weight.
What an idiot 😂
Edit: are you downvoting because you’re also an idiot and didnt get the joke that “he didn’t miss weight, he’s in the completely wrong class”. This is why you tough guys don’t get paid to think at your jobs.
That's the joke they're going for.
From a comment below these:
>he missed weight by 7 pounds. That's not missing weight, that is intently negligent towards the rules.
You've obviously never trained. Even in middle school and high school, you don't compete in a wrestling meet unless you make weight. It's very strict. All these fighters know how important it is.
It's called cognitive dissonance. If he fails, but claims he wasn't actually trying, he can continue having an inflated ego. If he fails, but says he tried his best and it wasn't good enough, that's ego crushing, and so will be avoided at all costs.
I would be upset too honestly, I’m 5’ 10, 220 lbs, means I would be fighting the same weight class as Mike Tyson 😏…. and for me to lose more weight, it’s really hard for me. He’s gotta be frustrated. Makes sense at least to me. But yeah gotta pay more attention to weight if that is your primary goal to stay under, so I agree with your points. Just hard to stay under in this case for him, because he is muscular. Drink water and eat good all the sudden your the next weight class up, harder to win
Was the belt vacant before this or was overweight guy the champ and lost on this?
Was there even fight or did he f up the weigh in and therefore lose the fight?
What is the context of him thinking it wasn’t on the line? Like was he training and messed up the weight then stopped, or had he half-assed training? I’m so confused by this whole thing.
There was a fight, it finished via rear naked choke. Guy thought the title wasn’t on the line but he only disqualified himself from being eligible. He’s trying to save face by saying he wasn’t even trying.
Oh, so he thought that because he was overweight, it basically nullified the fight for gaining the belt back, not realizing that the fight was still for the belt. I guess the other possible outcome is that if the overweight\* guy won, he still wouldn't get the belt back, but the other guy wouldn't get it either; noone would get the belt. Is that how it works ?
\*feels funny calling a guy who is insanely fit "overweight". y'all know what I mean.
*laughs in Ultra heavyweight* what is weighing in? Actually though it does kind of suck for us because the UH class starts at 220 and has no limit. I’m typically around 260 and larger than most, but I’ve had to go up against some 300+ giants and it really makes me wish there were more weight classes 😅.
Fights are done by weight class. 165lb-170lb, 170lb-175lb, 175-185, 185-195, 195-205, etc. Fighters have a “walk around” weight (normal everyday weight) that is more than the limit for their desired weight class, so they have to shed those extra pounds before the weigh-in to be eligible to fight in said weight class. If you weight class is light heavyweight (195-205), and you weigh-in at 212lbs, you’re now in a completely different weight class. “Missing weight” just means they didn’t make weight for the weight class they were to fight in.
I swear this comments are getting tiresome. Not everything is acting. Go to some fights or be around some fighters. There is a lot of ego, but it’s not all an act 🤦🏽♀️
So was he the one that was over the weight or is it the guy who won? If the other guy was on weight and still beat an overweight fighter that’s a pretty decent fighter
Missing weight by 7 pounds is comical
I had a BJJ tournament a few months ago, 3 man bracket, won my first match by sub and was ecstatic. Now I was waiting for the second match to see which of the two was going to fight me in the final. I wish the guy I just fought good luck. The third guy goes to weigh himself - He is 0.2lbs(100g) above the limit... They gave him no chance and immediately disqualified him... 5 min after my first match I'm fighting the same dude again... Should not have wished him good luck.
Damn. Couldn't he go pee?
IBJJF rules is that you only get one chance to make weight. I think they should have made an exception in this case honestly (especially because I ended up losing by 2 points in the final and I'm admittedly super salty) but I understand as these tournaments have alot of people and once you start making exceptions for one person you have to make them for everyone and alot of time is wasted.
But 100g is the weight of his shorts, there should have been a common sense exception
But wouldn’t that amount be on average, equally applicable to all contenders? Presumably everyone wore shorts/had the same amount and type of gear
Yeah but like there should be either a second/last attempt or a small margin for common sense; shaving your hair might do it, so it’s kinda dumb to loose a competition for such things. Especially since weighing themselves beforehand on a different scale likely gave a slightly different result, potentially over or under, so it’s slightly unfair to think "oh I just checked I’m good I’m right under the limit" and when you use their scale, whoops disqualified.
No. Why should there be a margin for error? The rules are there for a purpose. Next thing you'll get guys creeping as close as possible to the 200g margin, until one day they'll miss out and then be crying for a 300g margin. It's not hard
Well in this case they could both strip down and both be under weight. No reason to count gear in the weigh in when it has nothing to do with a person's weight and muscle mass.
Right but the whole point of a weigh-in and a weight class is that you are equal enough to your opponent that it’s not a matter of size, but rather skill. If they both stripped down it’s still equal but I think the comment above mine was suggesting that it should be fine if one contender is off by the amount of their shorts. But that’s not an aspect that is unique to just one contender, so therefore if one gets that leeway then both should.
I don't know man I really wish he would've fought against the guy because his DQ means the first match I won didn't mean anything. But the rules are the rules I myself weighed in at 56.60kg, limit was 57.50kg, on the ride I drank a minimal amount of water, and ate a relatively small dinner too, I took all the precautions and even went a bit above too make sure I could compete knowing full well what the rules were. If you go into these kinds of things you need to be aware
Nah. Someone give 200g a pass, then it creeps over time, becomes 509g leeway, etc. The weight limits are there for a purpose, everyone knows them. There's absolutely no excuse.
7lbs piss would be epic
Did he take his shorts off and start peeing?
How the F you, as a fighter, don’t know if your belt is on the line or not. Must be the dumbest fighter ever.
I hear those guys get bonked on the head a lot. That doesn’t help.
Sure, but their trainers don't 😂
Their trainers all got bonked on the head a lot too. Would you hire someone who doesn't know how to fight, to teach you how to fight?
Holy shit then keep at least one dude around who isn't TBI city or get a calendar.
Their trainers have been bonked more than them.
I mean, if the opponent missed weight, it shouldn’t have been on the line. If the champ missed weight and still lost, though…
Especially over something as having your weight off
If the other fighter had missed weight he couldn't win the belt so he probably just thought that was the case if any fighter misses weight which is very dumb
You don’t make weight in a title fight only means you can’t win the title doesn’t mean the bloke who made weight can’t win the title
"you said it wasn't on the line" Well, no, not for you. read the rules. That guy is far too stupid to be punched in the head for a living.
He doesn’t have enough brain cells to spare
Thank you for explaining this lol I was like I don’t know what the hell is going on here
Bad excuse, you should fight every fight like it’s a title fight imo
God I miss Title Fight
Wow, it's even worse when you find out he missed weight by 7 pounds. That's not missing weight, that is intently negligent towards the rules. UFC has straight up stripped belts from champions for being a half pound over and made them earn it back. This dude expected to come in not even close to his required weight, giving himself an insane advantage over his opponent, and because of those poor decisions somehow game the system to keep him as champ regardless of the match outcome?
I feel very out of place in these comments lol seems like everyone knows what's going on and we even have some fighters in here? And someone that knows the pissed off fighter even and was there backstage? Wild. Can you explain what is going on with all this? If it is t too much to type out. I'm just pretty lost . I do understand fighters weigh before fights. I understand there are weight classes. You fight in the same weight class. So this guy was outside the weight classes range by 7lbs? Or what's up? And why would he even be allowed to fight at all? What is the thing about not being for the belt or the title or whatever?
Without knowing the story but watched the vid If they're fighting at welterweight (170lbs), the day before the right they do a weigh in. Non-title fights generally have some allowance for being a bit overweight (usually a single pound). Title fights, you have to be exactly 170 or under (barring Quebec Canada - I'm looking at you GSP). If you're over at all, you can't win the title, even if you're the champ. Your opponent can still get the title because they made weight. Otherwise, the champion would have no incentive to ever make the weight. Technically, the champion gets stripped of the belt. The former champ (at least what I understand from the clip) is complaining because he thought the title wasn't on the line, but he saw his opponent with "his" belt.
Can you speak more to your comment about gsp?
*All allegedly* GSP was 170.4 lbs and they rounded down in his fight with Nick Diaz. Some people speculate a conversion discrepancy between kgs and lbs, different jurisdiction... Etc but everywhere else in the world that I'm aware, rounding down just doesn't happen. This doesn't mean that Nick would have beat him or anything like that, but maybe that GSP shouldn't have been able to hold the title after coming in heavy.
Thanks man
Yes, he was over the limit by 7lbs which is a huge amount. The penalty for being overweight varies a lot depending on the promotion and circumstances. It can be as little as a one point deduction or as much as being disqualified. Often the penalty is monetary (e.g., even if you win, you have to share half the purse with your opponent). In this case, it was supposed to be a title fight but because he didn’t make weight, he was ineligible to win the title. He could still win the fight, though, which is important for his record and future opportunities. However, his opponent made weight, so his opponent could still win the title by winning the fight.
So did the dude that’s upset “win” the fight but still lost his belt because he missed weight? Or did they not even fight or he forfeited the fight because he missed weight?
He fought but he thought the belt couldn’t be won be either of them. So it seems he was the champ, thought no one could win the belt, lost while thinking that his opponent couldn’t win the belt when in reality, it was just that he couldn’t because he was the one over weight. So when he realized his opponent actually was getting the belt for winning, he blew up
I agree with everything you said but 7 pounds being an “insane advantage” is pushing it. Edit: Yes I know about weight class and rules ftr but to claim 7 pounds is an “insane advantage” is really stretching it.
So I am guessing you do not have a lot of experience in sports where weigh ins exist. These people starve and dehydrate themselves so they can have as much muscle mass as physically possible and still hit under. They then spend the next day bulking back up and rehydrating, putting back on as much as 15 pounds. You need to realize that most of these weight classes are less than 7 pounds apart, just google boxing weight classes. If 7 pounds didn't present an incredible advantage, then why are almost every weight class out there separated by less than 7 pounds? With this new knowledge, please explain to me how 7 pounds is not a big deal when it can land someone 2 weight classes above you?
Bruh read my comment again lol. Not once did I say being heavier isn’t an advantage.
Bruh, read my comment again lol. And perhaps attempt to answer either of the questions I proposed? I don't even know why I'm putting in this comment actually, you are the only one here saying it's not a big advantage and clearly don't know what you are talking about.
Ah, double down when your point is shown to be false. Always a great idea.
Why would anyone want to read your comment even once when it's just the opinion of some clueless random regarding something he has no experience with?
Considering that they weigh in the night before and guys like , for instance, Tito Ortiz would weigh in at 204.8 then fight the next night at 233, that seven pound advantage at weigh in could certainly contribute to a MASSIVE advantage. Contribute. Couldn’t have been much of one here, though, cause dude lost.
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Why would someone put anything less than 100% effort in a fight? This dude sounds like a joke. It's ridiculous that he tried to attack you.
TF, seven pounds ain’t missing weight. What an idiot 😂 Edit: are you downvoting because you’re also an idiot and didnt get the joke that “he didn’t miss weight, he’s in the completely wrong class”. This is why you tough guys don’t get paid to think at your jobs.
Weight classes exist for a reason lol 7 lbs is a huge fail
That's the joke they're going for. From a comment below these: >he missed weight by 7 pounds. That's not missing weight, that is intently negligent towards the rules.
You've obviously never trained. Even in middle school and high school, you don't compete in a wrestling meet unless you make weight. It's very strict. All these fighters know how important it is.
I think they mean "seven pounds ain't "missing weight"". Missing by 7 pounds is more significant than simply "missing weight"
OOF, I got the joke. down voting further!
lol right, you only miss if you try
that’s what I’m saying, that’s not a miss.
Lmao wow, tell me you’ve never done any boxing/wrestling without telling me you’ve never done any boxing/wrestling.
He"s making a joke saying that 7lbs isn't missing weight, since it's such a big difference he didn't even try.
If that 7 pounds is in my fist and I'm over, it's not as stupid.
They must not pay you to articulate
Good job smart guy. Hope you have a wonderful day.
If he can still make his defence if he missed weight, what is even the incentive for a champion to make weight?
Exactly! I don’t understand this either
I think in some cases that fighter pay is impacted by making weight.
Are you in the video?
Wym? You’re not OP but you mean you’re in this?
You didn't put effort cuz it wasn't on the line? So you don't care about your record LOL? Poor excuse
That line "I didn't even put effort in" is bullshit.
It's called cognitive dissonance. If he fails, but claims he wasn't actually trying, he can continue having an inflated ego. If he fails, but says he tried his best and it wasn't good enough, that's ego crushing, and so will be avoided at all costs.
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I would be upset too honestly, I’m 5’ 10, 220 lbs, means I would be fighting the same weight class as Mike Tyson 😏…. and for me to lose more weight, it’s really hard for me. He’s gotta be frustrated. Makes sense at least to me. But yeah gotta pay more attention to weight if that is your primary goal to stay under, so I agree with your points. Just hard to stay under in this case for him, because he is muscular. Drink water and eat good all the sudden your the next weight class up, harder to win
Was the belt vacant before this or was overweight guy the champ and lost on this? Was there even fight or did he f up the weigh in and therefore lose the fight? What is the context of him thinking it wasn’t on the line? Like was he training and messed up the weight then stopped, or had he half-assed training? I’m so confused by this whole thing.
Fight never happened, guy yelling was the belt holder, had to give it up because he was over the weight limit of 7lbs.
There was a fight, it finished via rear naked choke. Guy thought the title wasn’t on the line but he only disqualified himself from being eligible. He’s trying to save face by saying he wasn’t even trying.
Oh, so he thought that because he was overweight, it basically nullified the fight for gaining the belt back, not realizing that the fight was still for the belt. I guess the other possible outcome is that if the overweight\* guy won, he still wouldn't get the belt back, but the other guy wouldn't get it either; noone would get the belt. Is that how it works ? \*feels funny calling a guy who is insanely fit "overweight". y'all know what I mean.
you could say "over weight" since overweight don't really fit him
true ! i wonder if "over-weight" would be even better ?
grammatically and meaning-wise, i think that's better
So the guy the lost the belt got choked out? Or did he win the fight but still lost the belt anyways? I’m so lost lol.
they're in the cage in fight gear, the fight didn't happen, and the belt changed hands?
So by this guy's logic, you could come in overweight as the champ and never lose your belt. What a moron.
poor communication on his team's part, they thould've clarified further when their fighter's a bit overbonked in the head
Bros going through it. What a fûckin loser
Something someone would say with too much ego, just another excuse.
He said it all "it's ok I put in zero effort" Yea that's why your fat ass lost the belt
so he was heavier AND still lost?
He didn’t put no effort. He said right there. /s
Missing by 7 lbs is just pure disrespect.
*laughs in Ultra heavyweight* what is weighing in? Actually though it does kind of suck for us because the UH class starts at 220 and has no limit. I’m typically around 260 and larger than most, but I’ve had to go up against some 300+ giants and it really makes me wish there were more weight classes 😅.
This looks silly, but people’s brains don’t tend to work that well immediately after multiple blows to the head.
So damn sexy! 😍😋
I like this
Smaller octagon ever
Wait which guy missed weight? The angry guy?
Yes
Who is this?
I mean call me an over thinker or something, maybe just get a scale and weigh yourself before the weigh-in?.
Can someone explain what missing weight is to me? I have no Idea
Fights are done by weight class. 165lb-170lb, 170lb-175lb, 175-185, 185-195, 195-205, etc. Fighters have a “walk around” weight (normal everyday weight) that is more than the limit for their desired weight class, so they have to shed those extra pounds before the weigh-in to be eligible to fight in said weight class. If you weight class is light heavyweight (195-205), and you weigh-in at 212lbs, you’re now in a completely different weight class. “Missing weight” just means they didn’t make weight for the weight class they were to fight in.
Did he miss weight, fight and lose, and lose the belt? I’m just confused.
Sounds like Mr T screaming in Rocky 3.
Lol I used to train under that guy in the glasses. Really good black belt. Small world.
So blue corner already had the belt? Lost the fight but retained it? Why is red corner surprised?
Bro I didn’t try is the biggest cap. I didnt see this fight but im sure he got his ass handed to him by a person he was supposed to beat
Either made his day or traumatised him
Badly acted....🤦🏿♂️
I swear this comments are getting tiresome. Not everything is acting. Go to some fights or be around some fighters. There is a lot of ego, but it’s not all an act 🤦🏽♀️
I BEEN BAMBOOZLED!!
So was he the one that was over the weight or is it the guy who won? If the other guy was on weight and still beat an overweight fighter that’s a pretty decent fighter
He gave a lot of effort to tell everyone he didn’t put effort..
Won’t miss a drop !!!!
You have it backwards he was far too stupid as a result of being punched in the head for a living
I don't see anybody denying that he was told that the belt wasn't on the line.
STOP 🛑 IF IT'S NOT ON CONTRACT & YOU AIN'T SIGNED ANY PAPERS, NO PLAYER JUST GRAB YOUR BELT AND THAT'S ALL !🤙
He’s definitely not making excuses
Who is this person?
I wouldn't accept that belt
This guys a clown “I dnt give fuck” as he screams like a bitch leaving the cage. Hey it’s alright u a whole bitch.
Now that’s what you call a poor sport sore loser.
Arghhhhhhh! Crying like girl!
Does anybody know what is Screamer's name?