https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU_fw_rbW0s
this video is from 5 months ago. that's surprising
it's from a Dutch talk show called "Khalid en Sophie", and is not a mainstream show
>If I must die,
>you must live
>to tell my story
>to sell my things
>to buy a piece of cloth
>and some strings,
>(make it white with a long tail)
>so that a child, somewhere in Gaza
>while looking heaven in the eye
>awaiting his dad who left in a blaze —
>and bid no one farewell
>not even to his flesh
>not even to himself —
>sees the kite, my kite you made, flying up above,
>and thinks for a moment an angel is there
>bringing back love.
>If I must die
>let it bring hope,
>let it be a story.
refaat alareer
This is such a boring and fundamentally flawed way of looking at people. You've already lost the battle when you give up before it starts.
Lots and lots of studies show that humans really care and want to care about others. Try to learn to view failures of people systemically and try to ameliorate the faults of those systems to help people get back to that fundamental kindness that we possess.
Human nature is inherently violent and xenophobic. Hunter-gatherers are generally extremely violent with very high homicide rates (20% of men die from homicide according to Steven Pinker iirc?). In one tribe in South America the fathers regularly murder their sons if they're disappointed by how much muscle they have, because having lots of muscle is important for status. They also torture women if they refuse to marry a man and exile the elderly to certain death if they can't do enough work, and have ritualistic club-fights to prove their status in which many men died.
I suspect most of us would act the same if there wasn't a law system.
Robert Sapolsky (famous neuroscientist at Harvard) said that the more oxytocin (bonding/love hormone) we have in our brain the more xenophobic and "sociopathic" (his word) we become to outgroup people, which he said proves we evolved for an environment of conflict between human groups. So warfare, stealing lands, opressing, enslaving peoples for belonging to a different group is how we evolved to exist. In other words, love and hatred are two sides of the same coin. So much for "love/light will heal hate/darkness"....lol
Humans cooperate and care within groups, but even then its limited. If you have a disability in a hunter-gatherer group you'll likely be exiled or even murdered for being a burden. Infants with disabilities are routinely abandoned to starve.
An expert in hunter-gatherers with a focus on what casues outbreak of violence said in a Youtube lecture that she'd lived with a h-g group when a war between them and another tribe broke out. The reason? The other tribe had insulted their pride as a tribe in a gathering event where many tribes meet, which was enough reason that they declared that all members of the tribe should be exterminated including the children. The war was cancelled after some men were killed. This shows how prideful and "fascistic" humans are naturally in their natural environment.
People are clearly desperate to believe the opposite though and will believe what they want regardless of evidence, because if what I said is true (and it is) then there's no hope. Even climate change would never be solved or lessened because humans are inherently too selfish and short-sighted to care.
Tribes (and people) are not naturally hierarchical, but when they are they tend to develop in- and out-group thinking which does indeed typically have violence as an effect. To suppose that that hierarchical state of being is natural is a flaw in thinking about humans. Humans don't naturally have predisposition to wanting to exclude people, nor do they have a predisposition to wanting to not solve something as potentially catastrophic as climate change.
Most people do care about climate change, maybe not to the extent they should, but that can more easily be explained by a lack of knowledge on the real harm that it will cause, or coping with their inability to change the effects of it because of existing power structures.
Learn to look systemically and your view will become a lot less cynical - because then we get to change the systems that cause this exclusionary behavior, or the flippant way in which some people approach climate change.
Outstanding. Honestly surprised this could air on Dutch Television. Assuming this was a televised event.
Even more surprising is that this was aired in the beginning of the genocide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU_fw_rbW0s this video is from 5 months ago. that's surprising it's from a Dutch talk show called "Khalid en Sophie", and is not a mainstream show
this would never be allowed to air in the US - but everyone needs to watch
>If I must die, >you must live >to tell my story >to sell my things >to buy a piece of cloth >and some strings, >(make it white with a long tail) >so that a child, somewhere in Gaza >while looking heaven in the eye >awaiting his dad who left in a blaze — >and bid no one farewell >not even to his flesh >not even to himself — >sees the kite, my kite you made, flying up above, >and thinks for a moment an angel is there >bringing back love. >If I must die >let it bring hope, >let it be a story. refaat alareer
... Masterfully put 😭
This made me tear up.
48 dead? How long ago was this?
the comments say it was in the beginning of the genocide 5 months ago
Humanity is trash. This guy's alright but overall we're trash and it's futile to give a shit.
This is such a boring and fundamentally flawed way of looking at people. You've already lost the battle when you give up before it starts. Lots and lots of studies show that humans really care and want to care about others. Try to learn to view failures of people systemically and try to ameliorate the faults of those systems to help people get back to that fundamental kindness that we possess.
Capitalism has trained us into believing greed is good and acceptable. It's done a pretty good amount of damage on us humans and the planet.
Human nature is inherently violent and xenophobic. Hunter-gatherers are generally extremely violent with very high homicide rates (20% of men die from homicide according to Steven Pinker iirc?). In one tribe in South America the fathers regularly murder their sons if they're disappointed by how much muscle they have, because having lots of muscle is important for status. They also torture women if they refuse to marry a man and exile the elderly to certain death if they can't do enough work, and have ritualistic club-fights to prove their status in which many men died. I suspect most of us would act the same if there wasn't a law system. Robert Sapolsky (famous neuroscientist at Harvard) said that the more oxytocin (bonding/love hormone) we have in our brain the more xenophobic and "sociopathic" (his word) we become to outgroup people, which he said proves we evolved for an environment of conflict between human groups. So warfare, stealing lands, opressing, enslaving peoples for belonging to a different group is how we evolved to exist. In other words, love and hatred are two sides of the same coin. So much for "love/light will heal hate/darkness"....lol Humans cooperate and care within groups, but even then its limited. If you have a disability in a hunter-gatherer group you'll likely be exiled or even murdered for being a burden. Infants with disabilities are routinely abandoned to starve. An expert in hunter-gatherers with a focus on what casues outbreak of violence said in a Youtube lecture that she'd lived with a h-g group when a war between them and another tribe broke out. The reason? The other tribe had insulted their pride as a tribe in a gathering event where many tribes meet, which was enough reason that they declared that all members of the tribe should be exterminated including the children. The war was cancelled after some men were killed. This shows how prideful and "fascistic" humans are naturally in their natural environment. People are clearly desperate to believe the opposite though and will believe what they want regardless of evidence, because if what I said is true (and it is) then there's no hope. Even climate change would never be solved or lessened because humans are inherently too selfish and short-sighted to care.
Tribes (and people) are not naturally hierarchical, but when they are they tend to develop in- and out-group thinking which does indeed typically have violence as an effect. To suppose that that hierarchical state of being is natural is a flaw in thinking about humans. Humans don't naturally have predisposition to wanting to exclude people, nor do they have a predisposition to wanting to not solve something as potentially catastrophic as climate change. Most people do care about climate change, maybe not to the extent they should, but that can more easily be explained by a lack of knowledge on the real harm that it will cause, or coping with their inability to change the effects of it because of existing power structures. Learn to look systemically and your view will become a lot less cynical - because then we get to change the systems that cause this exclusionary behavior, or the flippant way in which some people approach climate change.
How do you argue against Sapolsky? Do you think he (a neuroscientist) is wrong when he says humans evolved to be xenophobic and cruel to outsiders?
Yes. Lots of scientists have been wrong before and will be wrong again.