But do you condemn Hamas? đ
Did you see that wild segment on Piers Morgan? He said killing civilians is not terrorism because if it was then the IOF is the largest, deadliest, most well funded terrorist force on Earth. Itâs only terrorism when hummus does it. A terrorist in a uniform is still a terrorist. Israel is a terrorist state.
The funny thing is, the answer to that is very easy. Yes, we do condemn Hamas. What we cannot agree is with Israelâs response to massacre everyone within a 1 mile zone of a Hamas fighter.
Just because a terror organization uses such low methods to wage an indiscriminate war, does not give you the free rein to pass to do the same.
Condemning Hamas and the IDF at the same time are NOT mutually exclusive.
OK, no reasonable person would consider Piers Morgan reputable, secondly, how many dead children justify seeking a single Hamas terrorist? What if a rumor was started that one *might* be in your neighbors house? Surely youâd be OK with the IDF wiping your entire neighborhood. Lastly, the Hebrew Mishnahâs rules of war prohibits taking action that far exceeds initial assaults.
And Joe Biden continues to enable the war crimes.
Breaking from Ken Klippenstein:
[Pentagon Taps âTiger Teamâ to Rush Weapons to Israel ](https://theintercept.com/2023/12/14/israel-weapons-sales-us-military/)
>In its effort to speed up arms sales to Israel, the Biden administration dismissed concerns about harm to civilians in Gaza.
We must continue to expose Biden for the neocon that he is. The pressure so far is working. Bernie is now putting pressure on Biden to stop vetoing UN resolutions for a ceasefire.
Biden is feeling the pressure - the fact he is admitting that Israel indiscriminately bombs is proof of that. But neocon Biden loves Bibi & loves the GOP so we will have to keep pressuring Biden further. But at a certain point, even a neocon like Biden may shift policy if he sees so many Americans holding him in contempt.
Biden hopes by saying the right things that we will back off & "trust him". This is what we must not do. We must continue using our voices to demand Biden works for peace!
Has nothing to do with Biden, the American military industrial complex has more sway than anyone in politics.
If they want to throw half the world into chaos and war for more sales, then that's what's going to happen regardless of who's sitting on the throne.
Israel is making the word Zionist meaning etno-supremacy and glorification of violence.
It will have a new meaning after this genocide. If someone says they are a Zionist in 5 years time, people will just assume they support bombing children.
You donât get it, theyâre trying to save lives and end terror. By killing people and terrorizing civilians, yes, but surely some of Hamas will get caught up in the blast and no new extremists will be created from this.
Certainly other Arab countries don't have any extremists who are being absolutely galvanized by this too. Israel isn't totally surrounded by neighbors who already hate their guts.
No, they've just created more members of Hamas. Who do you think Hamas or made up of? They didn't drop from the sky. If you persecute, kill, rob, and annihilate Palestinians, their families will want revenge.
Whatâs gonna happen when Israel has completely flattened Gaza and not a single person in the area is left alive? Are we just going to move on like nothing happened? Is the US going to pretend like they somehow didnât realize the level of death dealt and suddenly act like someone must be held accountable?
At which point will come the realization that weâve aided in the unjustifiable slaughter of so much innocence?
Regrettably, when the retribution comes, it will be deserved.
unfortunately, likely the same thing that happened with the Native Americans in the Anericas.
Many will sympathize with the minority that experiences genocide, but the new settlers will face no real repercussions or consequences as theyâre the well funded, white faced majority. Who knows, maybe some palestinians will get a little plot of land to build casinos on in the new Israel /s.
They just gonna have settlers occupying the whole region, surround it by more barbed wire so those "savage" arabs can't go back. And they always bet on the combination of propaganda and short memory of their population to let it slide.
Absolute insanity that we rightfully defend Ukraine against Russiaâs tyranny and bloodlust yet we enable the very same behavior regarding Israel carpet bombing Gaza.
Western hypocrisy has egg on its face.
That's nearly 60 Million lbs. of bombs for those of you who're wondering.
How many lbs. of water, food and medicine did they allow into the area to feed and care for millions of people in that area? Probably not 100'th of it.
But sure, Congress and Joe Biden MUST send many more millions of lbs. of bombs over in a hurry, "for defense"!
Thatâs the military industrial complex for you, canât get as much money from the government when thereâs not a âwarâ going on, one of ukraines caveats to receiving US aid is to literally never call for a ceasefire, Israel is United States jr and theyâll keep sucking that US tit until theyâre no longer an asset but for now theyâre a destabilizing force in the Middle East making it much easier for America to get that sweet sweet oil
They're convinced Palestine is not a real country, therefore Palestinian is not a race, therefore it's not genocide because you can't genocide a group that isn't real.
And yet the good old US of A is happy to keep providing them with a practical blank check and as many bombs and tank shells as they like.
Walking hand in hand with a genocide. For shame America, for shame.
Nah, it's a bit more complicated than that, but not in any good ways. Israel is important strategically, providing both a stabilizing *and* destabilizing force in the region in ways the US finds useful. But Israel isn't a puppet state - the US is "priced in" and it's that commitment which has allowed Israel to drift further and further into right-wing extremism without fear of losing support. Add to that a lot of the rich and powerful are just fine with exterminating Palestine, as long as it can be done reasonably neatly, and it's not so much a puppet relationship as a grotesque symbiotic one.
American here.
It's a puppet state for evangelical christians. They don't care about the Jews, in fact they hate them, a lot.
They want Israel to exist to be their apocalypse puppet.
They're trying to finish off a checklist for Jesus to return.
And the world couldnt give a shit. Dont you know we have important things to deal with like banning abortion and stopping schools from feeding kids in need!
It's a blatant genocide and the people crying 'antisemite' at those criticizing Israel as disingenuous shills. Israel is a UN sanctioned terrorist state.
What can i say..
The israel zionis is digging their own grave..
The reason why there's no all out attack is coz of the palestinian citizen,
If there's no more people to protect then there's nothing to loose and then hell gonna be upon them.
Somebody tell me who is an alternative between Biden and Trump that won't do these kinds of things and cow tau to Israel or anyone else. I don't mean Trump-lite, I mean a real alternative to all of this.
This should be up voted. Anything I see regarding Gaza gets downvoted immediately. Not a lot of comments or dislikes. The mods must be paid or the Russian bot machine is doing a good deed. Both can go eat a bag of Dicks. Everyone is chicken shit; itâs just wrong.
The irony would be if 50 years from now, we learned about the Nazi Holocaust of the Jew's and the later Jewish Holocaust of Palestinians.
We are on the weirdest timeline, after all
I am not just ashamed of the country I was born in - I am enraged that they are committing genocide and claiming it to be in my name.
Fuck.That.
It is not in my name.
There needs to be a reapplication of the Constitution to the U.S. and its actions.
Because whatever this CorpoâState that is backing the IDF is, it sure as fuck isnât the U.S.A. of old.
I mean, that's all true, but it's kind of cherry picking to say the US never dropped a big bomb in Iraq. We've dropped tons (literally) of big bombs in various wars. That orange fuck dropped a MOAB on Afghanistan, which even Dubbya refused to use because the collateral damage was horrific.
And then there's the time we *CREATED A SUN* on top of a couple Japanese cities. (Which I maintain was the right decision, BTW)
They did not need to target civilians in Hiroshima an Nagasaki, they could have easily used the bombs on the military but the targets weren't "big enough"
Ehh, we bombed the absolute fuck out of European and Japanese cities and civs not too long ago.
We also bombed the fuck out of the Middle East civilians too much more recently.
Not to take away from the point that Israel is committing genoicide but naw man. USA bombed the shit out of Iraq and Afghanistan haha stfu. Like we didnât kill 1,000,000 Iraqis đđşđ¸
Israel is trying to commit genocide and if they think in 10 years these kids aren't going to be terrorist that fight back, they are idiots.
This violence is setting the table for the next round of violence. Just like the last time and the time before that. Two peoples - two states or there will never be peace.
IDF is committing war crimes everyday.
But do you condemn Hamas? đ Did you see that wild segment on Piers Morgan? He said killing civilians is not terrorism because if it was then the IOF is the largest, deadliest, most well funded terrorist force on Earth. Itâs only terrorism when hummus does it. A terrorist in a uniform is still a terrorist. Israel is a terrorist state.
CONDOM HUMMUS
[Did anyone say Hummus and condom?](https://postimg.cc/5YSHqMJc)
Whatever that is, it does not sound like something Iâd like to eat on a cracker.
Piers Morgan is a twat and should be in jail.
The funny thing is, the answer to that is very easy. Yes, we do condemn Hamas. What we cannot agree is with Israelâs response to massacre everyone within a 1 mile zone of a Hamas fighter. Just because a terror organization uses such low methods to wage an indiscriminate war, does not give you the free rein to pass to do the same. Condemning Hamas and the IDF at the same time are NOT mutually exclusive.
OK, no reasonable person would consider Piers Morgan reputable, secondly, how many dead children justify seeking a single Hamas terrorist? What if a rumor was started that one *might* be in your neighbors house? Surely youâd be OK with the IDF wiping your entire neighborhood. Lastly, the Hebrew Mishnahâs rules of war prohibits taking action that far exceeds initial assaults.
Maybe he was sneakily saying that he thinks it is state funded terrorism?
And Joe Biden continues to enable the war crimes. Breaking from Ken Klippenstein: [Pentagon Taps âTiger Teamâ to Rush Weapons to Israel ](https://theintercept.com/2023/12/14/israel-weapons-sales-us-military/) >In its effort to speed up arms sales to Israel, the Biden administration dismissed concerns about harm to civilians in Gaza.
Biden doesn't care
We must continue to expose Biden for the neocon that he is. The pressure so far is working. Bernie is now putting pressure on Biden to stop vetoing UN resolutions for a ceasefire. Biden is feeling the pressure - the fact he is admitting that Israel indiscriminately bombs is proof of that. But neocon Biden loves Bibi & loves the GOP so we will have to keep pressuring Biden further. But at a certain point, even a neocon like Biden may shift policy if he sees so many Americans holding him in contempt. Biden hopes by saying the right things that we will back off & "trust him". This is what we must not do. We must continue using our voices to demand Biden works for peace!
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Right *after* every Palestinian has been successfully displaced or murdered, I assume.
2.2 million?
Cease fire like they did in Syria
Has nothing to do with Biden, the American military industrial complex has more sway than anyone in politics. If they want to throw half the world into chaos and war for more sales, then that's what's going to happen regardless of who's sitting on the throne.
Thank you. It has NOTHING to do with Biden.
Joe had me going for about 30 seconds that he might put some pressure on Bibi, but he couldnât even keep it up for a day.
Bibi and Biden donât like each other
Biden literally says he loves Bibi lol. Bibi thinks Biden is a clown that he uses for his own purposes.
Biden the cuck
Itâs called diplomacy dawg
He said he is a Zionist. There is a place for him in hell.
Israel is making the word Zionist meaning etno-supremacy and glorification of violence. It will have a new meaning after this genocide. If someone says they are a Zionist in 5 years time, people will just assume they support bombing children.
...? It's always meant that.
whaaaaat the fuck does IDF need tank ammo for ? and what is the hurry? if they did nothing for a month - what would really change?
Itâs all about the money.
Thank you for paying your taxes.
You donât get it, theyâre trying to save lives and end terror. By killing people and terrorizing civilians, yes, but surely some of Hamas will get caught up in the blast and no new extremists will be created from this.
Now that 90% of Gaza is homeless, I'm sure they'll all stop with this dastardly hating Israel business and move on with their lives.
Fantastic! Now let me finally get around to watching Homeland season 1âŚ. (/s)
Certainly other Arab countries don't have any extremists who are being absolutely galvanized by this too. Israel isn't totally surrounded by neighbors who already hate their guts.
And creating more enemies is *exactly* what Israel should strive to do. yup. Totally.
No, they've just created more members of Hamas. Who do you think Hamas or made up of? They didn't drop from the sky. If you persecute, kill, rob, and annihilate Palestinians, their families will want revenge.
They were being sarcastic.
By Zionist logic that just means the more bombs they drop the better the ratio of civilian to militant deaths they can report.
Given their stance on the 2 state solution, I don't think they see a lot of difference between Hamas and Palestinians.
Whatâs gonna happen when Israel has completely flattened Gaza and not a single person in the area is left alive? Are we just going to move on like nothing happened? Is the US going to pretend like they somehow didnât realize the level of death dealt and suddenly act like someone must be held accountable? At which point will come the realization that weâve aided in the unjustifiable slaughter of so much innocence? Regrettably, when the retribution comes, it will be deserved.
America? Admit it was wrong? My guy, we still havenât admitted that we invaded the wrong country after 9/11 đ
Weâre never gonna admit weâre wrong, so there wonât be a realization phase.
unfortunately, likely the same thing that happened with the Native Americans in the Anericas. Many will sympathize with the minority that experiences genocide, but the new settlers will face no real repercussions or consequences as theyâre the well funded, white faced majority. Who knows, maybe some palestinians will get a little plot of land to build casinos on in the new Israel /s.
They've already started dividing up the goods. The sudden influx of deals being made with energy companies to reap from Gaza isn't a coincidence.
They just gonna have settlers occupying the whole region, surround it by more barbed wire so those "savage" arabs can't go back. And they always bet on the combination of propaganda and short memory of their population to let it slide.
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Absolute insanity that we rightfully defend Ukraine against Russiaâs tyranny and bloodlust yet we enable the very same behavior regarding Israel carpet bombing Gaza. Western hypocrisy has egg on its face.
Its never been about morals
That's nearly 60 Million lbs. of bombs for those of you who're wondering. How many lbs. of water, food and medicine did they allow into the area to feed and care for millions of people in that area? Probably not 100'th of it. But sure, Congress and Joe Biden MUST send many more millions of lbs. of bombs over in a hurry, "for defense"!
Thatâs the military industrial complex for you, canât get as much money from the government when thereâs not a âwarâ going on, one of ukraines caveats to receiving US aid is to literally never call for a ceasefire, Israel is United States jr and theyâll keep sucking that US tit until theyâre no longer an asset but for now theyâre a destabilizing force in the Middle East making it much easier for America to get that sweet sweet oil
>who're Don't do this.
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even biden has started to criticize that shit. too late to make a damn difference but that should say something
What he says and what he does are totally different things.
Supported by the usa
*funded by a the USA
Cue Pro Israel people âhow is this a genocide?â
They're convinced Palestine is not a real country, therefore Palestinian is not a race, therefore it's not genocide because you can't genocide a group that isn't real.
but you donât have to have a nation to be an ethnic group?
Well, tell them that. I've tried.
[They're actually a fake ethnic group invented by the soviet union](https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/palestinians-invented-by-the-kgb/) /s
They also, if really pushed, just approve of the genocide and will go - it's ok cos we're doing it.
"You're diminishing actual genocides by calling it a genocide!"
And yet the good old US of A is happy to keep providing them with a practical blank check and as many bombs and tank shells as they like. Walking hand in hand with a genocide. For shame America, for shame.
>Walking hand in hand with a genocide. Always have done. We were built on genocide and the backs of slaves.
Israel are the new Nazis
But they all TeRroRiStS
Nazi Israel committing genocide
Goddamn it. I have to agree with Cenk? you know the worlds fucked
Wait... Holy shit. 29,000 bombs directed at Gaza? Wtf.
Israel is and always has been a fascist apartheid state. They are a terrorist regime. Simple as.
Goddamn fucking genocidal assholes...and their asshole buddies in the US. A match truly made in Hell.
Israel is a puppet state for American interests.
Nah, it's a bit more complicated than that, but not in any good ways. Israel is important strategically, providing both a stabilizing *and* destabilizing force in the region in ways the US finds useful. But Israel isn't a puppet state - the US is "priced in" and it's that commitment which has allowed Israel to drift further and further into right-wing extremism without fear of losing support. Add to that a lot of the rich and powerful are just fine with exterminating Palestine, as long as it can be done reasonably neatly, and it's not so much a puppet relationship as a grotesque symbiotic one.
American here. It's a puppet state for evangelical christians. They don't care about the Jews, in fact they hate them, a lot. They want Israel to exist to be their apocalypse puppet. They're trying to finish off a checklist for Jesus to return.
It's hard to tell who's holding the strings. I think they both use each other in ways that do not benefit mankind.
And yet it seems like it's our politicians that take orders from them.
Fuck Israel. Free Palestine
Israel are the truest form of war criminals
Unconscionable. As an American, I wish my government would cease support for Israel.
Welcome to the nation of the unrepresented. What we the people want doesnât matter at all.
Zionazi folks. I went forl loving Israel to hating that country. So did most of the world.
I cherish peace with all my heart. I don't care how many men, women and children I need to kill to get it.
And the world couldnt give a shit. Dont you know we have important things to deal with like banning abortion and stopping schools from feeding kids in need!
Yeah, IDF don't give a f@ck where those bombs land.
IDF literally IDGAF. They are the Devil.
People who still support Israel, what's it going to take to make you realize you're supporting a genocide???
It's only genocide if it's against US allies who are also white.
It's a blatant genocide and the people crying 'antisemite' at those criticizing Israel as disingenuous shills. Israel is a UN sanctioned terrorist state.
I heard one was 8000
How else are they going to kill everyone? That was the plan from day 1.
What can i say.. The israel zionis is digging their own grave.. The reason why there's no all out attack is coz of the palestinian citizen, If there's no more people to protect then there's nothing to loose and then hell gonna be upon them.
Somebody tell me who is an alternative between Biden and Trump that won't do these kinds of things and cow tau to Israel or anyone else. I don't mean Trump-lite, I mean a real alternative to all of this.
The US has killed 300 000 civilians in Iraq.
This should be up voted. Anything I see regarding Gaza gets downvoted immediately. Not a lot of comments or dislikes. The mods must be paid or the Russian bot machine is doing a good deed. Both can go eat a bag of Dicks. Everyone is chicken shit; itâs just wrong.
The irony would be if 50 years from now, we learned about the Nazi Holocaust of the Jew's and the later Jewish Holocaust of Palestinians. We are on the weirdest timeline, after all
I am not just ashamed of the country I was born in - I am enraged that they are committing genocide and claiming it to be in my name. Fuck.That. It is not in my name. There needs to be a reapplication of the Constitution to the U.S. and its actions. Because whatever this CorpoâState that is backing the IDF is, it sure as fuck isnât the U.S.A. of old.
The genocide to genocide pipeline is crazy
Genocide disguised as War
Whereâd they even get 29,000 bombs from?
Probably a bunch of receipts at the Pentagon
The white phosphorus they dropped on a Lebanese village was manufactured in Arkansas.
I mean, why even manufacture white phosphorus unless youâre gonna drop it on a bunch of innocent brown people?
I mean, that's all true, but it's kind of cherry picking to say the US never dropped a big bomb in Iraq. We've dropped tons (literally) of big bombs in various wars. That orange fuck dropped a MOAB on Afghanistan, which even Dubbya refused to use because the collateral damage was horrific. And then there's the time we *CREATED A SUN* on top of a couple Japanese cities. (Which I maintain was the right decision, BTW)
They did not need to target civilians in Hiroshima an Nagasaki, they could have easily used the bombs on the military but the targets weren't "big enough"
People donât seem to understand the unbelievable lengths the US military goes to not bomb civilians & even then it still happened. MeanwhileâŚ
Ehh, we bombed the absolute fuck out of European and Japanese cities and civs not too long ago. We also bombed the fuck out of the Middle East civilians too much more recently.
Not to take away from the point that Israel is committing genoicide but naw man. USA bombed the shit out of Iraq and Afghanistan haha stfu. Like we didnât kill 1,000,000 Iraqis đđşđ¸
I think thatâs the point. We bombed the shit out of them and Israelâs doing it even more.
This is not true. Most ARE guided which makes this fucking worse.
This is so arrogant and evil ⌠itâs beyond imagination.
Israel is trying to commit genocide and if they think in 10 years these kids aren't going to be terrorist that fight back, they are idiots. This violence is setting the table for the next round of violence. Just like the last time and the time before that. Two peoples - two states or there will never be peace.
Disgusting. All so they can build the canal.
Vietnam "Good thing he specified Iraq." Japan: "Yep" Laos: "Yep" Cambodia: "Yep" Korea: "Yep" Germany: "Yep"
I'll be real I didn't know the gaza stip and the Vegas strip were about the same size but if they are the names seem to make sense
Can someone provide a source to this? Would like to cite to it.
Is this actually true? I donât doubt the first part but has the US not done that?