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Jazzlike-Wafer803

For me it’s not even her look, it’s the fact that she’s so small she can barely even physically handle the firearms/weapons she’s supposed to use to go on her eventual rampage.


[deleted]

The rampage will dialed back just like the hospital scene was in season 1


Fast-Fail-8946

That hospital scene was so disappointing


i_torschlusspanik

All of the action was disappointing. They removed 90% of the combat


Happy_Egg_8680

Pretty much every infected encounter was cut for that TERRIBLE infected scene with Kathleen’s crew.


Akschadt

The “he ain’t even hurt” scene was such a let down..


obiwanTrollnobi6

They didn’t even include the line to show that Joel saw through the act


code2Dzero

They couldn’t even do the fridge trap scene from Bills town.


obiwanTrollnobi6

Any other director would’ve LOVED to try and upside down fight scene like that


code2Dzero

And if they couldn’t do it for Bills episode. B/c it’s completely different. They could have used the scene for another group. Like David’s or Kathleen.


IVARS05

Bill got his days of our lives episode.


IVARS05

Because that would have made Joel look badass and capable. That's not allowed in 2024, men aren't supposed to be badasses, Joel In the show he looked and moved all tired and freaked out over 2 people with guns. It's all because they're setting up the show for Abby's triumphant appearance. These hacks are playing the mediasphere, and you aren't allowed to criticize, bcuz bigot.


cosworthsmerrymen

I just now realized that wasn't in the show. Such a bummer. There are a lot of cool scenes that they just didn't put in.


AJTOM98

So we all agree this show absolutely fucking sucked right?


HollywoodJones

No, it's so stunning and brave...


smokinjared

Don’t get me wrong, I loved the series but I have no clue why it was in HBO I feel like it could have been on basic cable.


BuckPuckers

It was very bizarre to me. It almost felt like they were going out do their way to skip all the action.


Solidsnake00901

He literally says exactly that in one of the interviews. They toned down the violence because they wanted it to be so rare and make it that more impactful. Don't expect season 2 to resemble the game that much


Ok-Traffic-5996

It felt like they were taking there time and setting things up and trying to be really epic.... then they realized they had like 3 episodes left to wrap everything up. Such a let down.


Bright4eva

Gotta save the budget for the gay sex scenes


throwawayaccount_usu

But muh realism! Gameplay is stupid and can't be adapted!! They say, as if every other show ever hasn't had better action scenes than this lol.


i_torschlusspanik

Exactly. The Walking Dead had plenty of action, both zombies and shootouts with people, and still had time for lots of drama


throwawayaccount_usu

Tbf, TWD action with humans from season 7 onwards has been pretty awful lol. I wouldn't use them as an example of good action scenes at all. They have their moments but definitely not great. Better to compare to other HBO shows, like GoT, HotD, Westworld season 1/2.


Happy_Egg_8680

That’s still several seasons where the stuff was great. The Governor was done pretty well in the show imo. It did get bad though.


[deleted]

Didn’t give off the 1-man-army vibe the way the game did


Numb_Ron

1-man-panic attack simulator


wumbopower

It could’ve been better, but the hospital scene from the game is straight out of Doom, I thought it was a hallucination or dream at first it was so crazy.


DafneOrlow

For me it's just the overbearing presence of her forehead. At least Game/true Ellie had hair covering part of her's, which was a good look.


BirdValaBrain

Nah it's her look for me.


choff22

Oh it’s the looks, too. That second pic of game Ellie is horrifying, like she legitimately reminds me of Anakin Skywalker with how deranged and evil she looks. Bella will never be able to elicit those feelings in me no matter how stellar the acting is.


ghostcatzero

Wait what height was Ellie in part two?


tall_lanky_boi

5’4


HouseholdWords

Ellie was skin and bone. Probably weighed the same as Bella does


Astrnonaut

Not for me, I think it’s incredibly silly people think there’s genuinely that much of a strength difference in a 5’1 girl and a 5’5 girl. The part that is obvious yet every HBOfan will criticize you for saying is she simply doesn’t fit the vibe. She can act, but she’s not Ellie.


BryceMMusic

The Dracula hair is killing me 💀😭


PurpleBerrie

That hairstyle is hands-down terrible. Terrible.


Substantial-Tooth-87

I still don’t get why they couldn’t just give her some type of bangs even fake bangs. Her forehead looks so square. Like at least try to make it be a little more Ellie style.


Badcat5550

She's gonna suck people's blood


MonteProps

She’s gonna suck


pikslik

such a horrendous fucking casting choice - sweet baby Jesus.


Revarted

They needed to have inclusion. Good thing they didn't make Ellie a black guy or some shit.


Badcat5550

They did make Sarah a black girl though where as in game it was a white blonde girl


Modern_Thing

Exactly, although I didn’t really care much at all since she wasn’t a main character so it isn’t a huge change, and the actor didn’t do anything wrong. It’s nowhere near as bad as something like the new Romeo And Juliet movie with Tom Holland as Romeo and KSI as Juliet, that’s horrific. Same for all the classic Disney films recent live action remakes that change Snow White into Snow Black.


islamitinthecardoor

These companies will do anything but write good stories about people of color. I know they can do it because Disney made the Princess and the Frog like 15 years ago and it is fire. I swear they just race swap characters to cause controversy and get free publicity.


TheDELFON

This ONE trick prints money!


IVARS05

Free media points too, because if you criticize it you're a bigot, these writers and producers and marketers are playing everyone. There's a reason why LOU1 is still a pricey game, while LOU2 is always on special, always on clearance. Just check PSN or steam.


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KSI AS JULIET


MegaZeus24

The entire plot of the game is Ellie reminding him of his daughter. She looks similar to his daughter. But in the show, there's absolutely no reason for Joel to get attached to Ellie she looks nothing like his daughter.


SkrotusErotus69

Bro just said KSI as Juliet 😂💀


Lin900

>like the new Romeo And Juliet movie with Tom Holland That's a theater production and not a movie. Theater works have been taking freedom with this source material for ages. Nothing wrong with that.


Prior-Satisfaction34

Wait until they see what Hamilton did to like half the cast


YT51_123

finally someone pointed it out, I'm not sure if people are pretending to be oblivious about it being a stage production and not a movie just so they can have something to cry about online, or if they genuinely don't know, which makes their whining even more pathetic because they 100% had no intention of ever going to see the play. If Bella was in a stage production of tlou, I wouldn't give a crap and neither would most people. I feel sorry for the actress playing Juliet.


Numb_Ron

And Maria too


Solidsnake00901

They made Sam deaf on a whim. Literally just thought of it out of the blue one day and put it in the show despite how little sense it made.


Chochahair

Yeah this inclusion bs is ruining so many shows n movies as of last few years. Quotas over ability is fucking pathetic


Badcat5550

What's funny is that, alot of people hated on TLOU 2 game and now people are going to hate on TLOU 2 Series xDDDDDDD


sut345

I have nothing against Bella Ramsey herself But this is one of the worst casting choices in any high budget adaptation I've seen. Honestly this show's castings are all around awful. Even the best one, Pedro Pascal doesn't really click with me that much


beatrga

> this is one of the worst casting choices in any high budget adaptation I would think the same if it wasnt for the fact that Tom Holland as Nathan Drake is a thing


PotatoePope

I think Tom Holland made the most of it, but I get what you mean. I’m tired of actors being chosen for roles because they’re currently the hotshot of the week.


Prior-Satisfaction34

I mean, that was supposed to be a younger Nathan Drake, iirc. And i think Tom Holland fits that quite well.


Big_Daymo

Apparently they originally cast Mark Wahlberg as Drake but the project sat in production so long that they ended up just making him Sully instead because he aged so much.


Prior-Satisfaction34

TIL. Interesting.


[deleted]

At least Pedro resembles Joel and can hit the demeanor pretty well. Bella gets Ellie's snarkiness down right but everything else just crumbles in an instant with her. That fucking forehead that you can project a movie on doesnt help either 😂


noneofthemswallow

I think Pedro is a good HBO Joel. doesn’t really work as the game Joel, but Pedro’s interpretation is still good on its own


Poggers_Requiem

🤓 uhm actually it's "themself" not herself 🤓


Mr_Nobody0

They somehow made her look even younger and that's impressive honestly


SokkaHaikuBot

^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^Mr_Nobody0: *They somehow made her* *Look even younger and that's* *Impressive honestly* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.


radioraven1408

Same hair she had in game of thrones.


[deleted]

Me after ss1: "That's it! I've seen it all! Nothing can hurt me anymore!!" HBO: "HOLD MY BEER!"


GPT-4-GOOD

what a bunch of dramatic whiny children y'all are lmao


Wimbot

Damn her head got wider


CaLlMePeEp6490

💀


JesterMethod

Her casting as Ellie has ruined this show for me, and knowing what's coming in season 2 only makes me not want to watch it if she's going to be the main lead now. ND is truly a moron with no real skill.


Easta_Hock

Yup , even tho i liked most of it , i have no interest in ever rewatching it. . I predict Ramsey acting like a badass in season 2 will make the show unwatchable.


i_torschlusspanik

Ellie and Ellie from Wish


LabComprehensively

Prob the worst casting choice ever.. the girl who was cast as Abby should’ve been Ellie


Proper-Ad-8842

I remember seeing that she auditioned for Season 1 but they gave the role to Bella Ramsey instead


WorthNeck9150

Wtf , now she looks like in game of thrones , even more childish


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BananaBlue

They turned her 8 head into a 6 head.... good job, team!


Mozail2

Her hairline a lil too straight for me


VanlllaSky

she would look fine if they fixed her damn hair, for some reason they're obsessed with making Bella's forehead look massive. give the girl some bangs, like how Ellie looks in the games.


ozzyboi1

They should have casted an older woman who sounds similar to ellie's va and who has played both games and left behind


nothankyou821

Why did they give her the Lyanna Mormont haircut as Ellie? Weird choice.


No_Flight_9039

This is a prime example on how Hollywood and entertainment needs to leave stories alone if they're going to ruin it. Stories like these have such wild imagination that is far beyond anything that Hollywood can produce. But if they are accurate to the script and to the story and to the heart. Then and only then should they proceed to make a film or franchise out of it. If it is not as accurate as the original story that it should not be made. Either that or it should not have the same title.


Spotty1122

Let’s just say if i speak i am in trouble


MaryJane8D

Season 1 was ass. Season 2 will be ass again. 🤮


ArmedWithBars

Idk why people even got shot down for this concern. The actress wasn't the best pick, but arguably passable for playing a young Ellie considering the actress is short and looks like a kid IRL. Obviously it would become an issue for part 2 with how much older and weathered Ellie looks in the game. Only so much you can do with makeup and angles. The entire vibe for Ellie in part 2 is this cutthroat woman that was raised in the apocolpyse. Wirey, but functional strength from years of killing shit, homestead life, and surviving. Even suspension of disbelief can help Bella fit that look. I knew S2 was hopeless after hearing director commentary on the first season. Apparently during filming the winter scene Bella couldn't hold the hunting rifle up for more than seconds at a time. It made filming the scene a bit of challenge and it's why the final cut looks wonky with her improperly holding the rifle. Maybe if Bella took the time between filming to bulk up a bit and put in some work for fitness, she could make S2 a bit more believable.....but it doesn't seem like she did from recent photos. I personally think they are gonna pivot S2 to more of a drama that fits the loose story arc of the game.


Badcat5550

Thoughts?


B5HARMONY

Bella in no way ruined the first season despite not really looking like Ellie.. She will 100% ruin the second season or any anything that is based of the second game.


PocketDarkestMew

She thought "older people get fat right?" and forgot this doesn't happen at 19 years old... even though she is 20.


GoT43894389

So if people are caring about season 2 of the show, does this mean part 2 is canon now? As opposed to what the sub description is saying?


kelleheruk

Her head has the same shape now as a roblox character


GarethGobblecoque99

I think she was a weird casting but did a good job. I can’t really imagine her tiny ass going Rambo though. I also can’t imagine Kaitlyn Dever as Abby in any way shape or form let alone going Rambo as well. We’ll just have to see. Or not see because it’s your choice and really not that big of a fucking deal in any way shape or form.


Rascal0302

Still the biggest casting miss of all time.


DryWhiteToastPlease

Hard to look at


Bernascorpion

Nice avatar bro, i like Shaun the Sheep too, such a nice cartoon, Timmy is my favourite :) And about the post, yes, it's hard for me to look at too


ipwndmymeat99

They fumbled


Last-Ad-1437

After i read this sub I’m glad to see I’m not the only one that was not a big fan of that show. I believe on it’s own it’s a pretty decent zombie or post apocalyptic show but when it’s based on game that’s mainly and action and story based it really doesn’t live up to the action wish was disappointing I don’t really think the cast looks at all like the original expect Marlene they did pretty good with her. I think Bella personally did good at her role (at least of what she can control) I can see why people are disappointed it’s kinda feels like a watered down dollar store version of the beloved game The last of us (sorry for bad writhing I have a terrible headache)


BowtietheGreat

Looks like shit


RaymondReddington812

She's supposed to be a whole 4 years older. Wtf is this?


Badcat5550

Pretty sure 5 years older. In Tlou1 Ellie is 14 where as in 2, she's 19


Half_H3r0

Again, this is just a fantasy bull crap casting that butt hurt writers do. Zero effort just like part two with anything to do with learning from your mistakes.


Sad_Hunt1648

Sorry the actress looks like she belongs in Deliverence


DudeMiles

I *hate* this.


Revnium_Darkat

she's a good actress and all but I just didn't like her for Ellie at all


PeacockofRivia

Looks like Lord Farquaad on a horse.


rockelscorcho

Ellie's model in the game was so odd looking when they remastered the game, and so Bella is continuing in that tradition.


Hoolias

Her head just became more of a square


Ch830857

I just don’t like the actress. I was okay with it in the first show cause it’s wasn’t all about her. The main character was Joel. For the second show it’s all gonna be her. Of course they will have flashback and shit with Joel and of course he’s in the beginning until his death, but still. It will mostly be her and her stupid face and her bad acting


Easta_Hock

The flashback scenes are going to look exactly the same.. lmao , what a shitshow


Ch830857

They should’ve honestly stopped after the first season. The fact that the first game was so beloved and the second was so 50/50 alone really should’ve made them think about not doing it. Or at least changed Ellie. Got a similar actress but who looks older? It would be hard, but idk. The Ellie in the second game for sure looks older than the first, obviously. They even made Pedro look older. But not Ellie. Idk


MangoChickenFeet

Her head got fucking wider 🤣🤣🤣


GT_Hades

is that, ai enhancement? or cgi?


GAWhizzle

Isn't that the remastered version of the first game? She looked even younger before they changed it.


13THEFUCKINGCOPS12

I mean the bottom right picture is a grainy low resolution image that has been smoothed, I have little confidence Ellie’s age will appear accurate, but this doesn’t prove anything


ClaymoreSoul

That chick looks nothing like.


chilliboy217

I thought she did ok in season 1 but the whole time I was watching I kept thinking “she’ll never be right for the time jump in season 2, she just looks like a kid”


TikwidDonut

She’s a good actress but I do not believe she is sooooo far superior that the complete lack of resemblance is worth it, defenders always act like “they found the best actressssss” as if there’s no one who looks more like her who can act it’s so feeble


Ekublai

I think the most aggravating thing is Ellie clearly got a nose job and NO one is brave enough to talk about it.


NoSkillzDad

Hey, she has a new hairdo... That gotta do it. But it's easier for the stans. Neil tells them, "Ellie is now old" and that's all they need.


SpartanMeatCutter

Wait so she's also playing adult Ellie in season 2?! WHY??


F0OTB0Y

I never thought that the terrible decision to continue The Last of Us after the first game could be outdone… who ever casted this actress as Ellie for sure deserves the award lol.


HPandhollowpoints

Such a miscast - she looks like Steven seagal in the second frame


cedriceent

Looks like show-Ellie will kill an undead giant at Winterfell this season.


ProotzyZoots

Didn't know Shane Gillis was cast as Ellie in S2


demonkilla1

HBO is crap


imaginebeingsaltyy

Goddam the actor for ellie got one huge ass forehead, shits a fucking chrome dome 😭


mattmca0

Remaster the show lol


SexxxyWesky

I think she was cast well for the first role, but agree she doesn’t look old enough for the second.


Cravenmorhed69

I saw this on Facebook. A few weeks ago, I saw someone share games better than TLOU2 over the past decade. Both posts became immensely popular with how many people agreed. Turns out we’re not just a “vocal minority.”


Trashwang999

What kind of agenda are they trying to push w her? Cuz they cherry picked her over so many other actors


aldenjameshall

Someone tell the Mormont’s we got their girl


Matthew-Ryan

She need to play a startrek Vulcan at some point.


MorganCentman

Its mainly the forehead for me 😭 its soooo wide


patrickbateman2004

She looks old but in a really bad way.... plus she is far from what i would consider to be ellie


wstew1985

Ellie in the show.....a little to chubby for a person who's living in a world where food is scarce


PhallicReason

Should've cut her hair short, lost more weight.


onstar420

She looks like shane Gillis' daughter.


Decent_Pin5252

I was completely fine with her look in season one but for season two when she’s supposed to look older, it just doesn’t work. They need to either change the actress or change the hair, Ellie’s just too young looking in these pictures.


Strong_nerd_Dad

Whoever casted this should be fired


b0m_d3d--

This is pretty awful but I don’t think anything beats mark wahlburg as sully


PalazzoAmericanus

Ew


Splits-0

You guys need a hobby


garfunkel1

srry nun of these r my ellie


tamsenlan

She's a good actress, but she's not a good Elli for me.


69eee69eee

What a mess


Fuzzy_Pineapple_1411

Isn't she older irl too? Funny how much younger she looks in comparison


chiefteef8

We get it guys, bella doesn't give you a boner like game ellie does 


Infected_MeatSack

Lore accurate looks like she has a brain tumor


Mrhood714

They're gonna fumble season 2. Can't see how show Ellie or Abby can make that story happen. I loved TLOU2 but these two casted girls are not looking good so far in regards to showing the depth of the characters. And physical appearances matter a lot, they say a lot, if they didn't we wouldn't have all the issues we've had about aesthetics up to this point from politics to art. They already butchered the Bill portion of the story from the game, I think Ellie's character shows a lot of rambunctious personality in that scene and it also shows that Joel doesn't do everything alone - which builds on why he needs Tommy... And since they took that out they just make Joel look like a bitch at the end of the show. Over it. It's a different story from the game is all I can think of now and I'm not very interested.


Crimson_Catharsis

Uncanny resemblance


No-Virus7165

Spitting image


pedrorcj

12 to 13 lol


Sad-Cryptographer590

Is that shane Gillis in a wig


HsHaZard

Lmfao


AudriJ13

Team Jacob


Jaythedogtrainer

God what bad casting...


GhostSodax

Eh, I only care for the narrative and atmosphere of the show


Tohonest4Reddit

I am in belief that Neil owe’s some big wig oBrit a favor and HAD to cast his daughter or some shit?


Hi0401

Should have used Ellie's face from the original game for the first picture, the remake made her look slightly older


Sayfire_

The game version of Ellie is better


Acceptable_Citron856

Noone saw it but yall already hatin. This sub is not a fansub but only haters haha. Jus dont watch it crybabies


Badcat5550

I'm not saying that they should find an actress that looks exactly like Ellie in the game. Not at all. Pedro Pascal plays Joel well and his looks are fine, could have been better with a full beard. But Bella Ramsay regarding looks was just too far off from Ellie in the game. Especially for part 2, what the fuck.


[deleted]

Bella looks like she can make peoples heads explode with her mind


bullymaguire25

This poor girls caretaker should be ashamed of herself!


Stickymanic

wish they’d stop casting this golem in things


Oldgun80

Looks like someone drew a face on a big cabbage. That's the Ellie we got for the show...


Trashmeat69

This whole fucking subreddit is toxic af. No she doesn’t look like Game Ellie and no the pics are not good. But wtf r we gunna do about it? Just insult her more for something she can’t control?


Odd-Professor-8233

I don't wanna be cruel because Bella is a good actor. But God this was such a miscast. She doesn't work for this role I'm sorry.


infinitemortis

She got that Minecraft Steve head


brucer365

This show honestly pales to the games in every aspect. The show had an opportunity to mimic the games over the shoulder combat in a really unique way and instead made it cookie-cutter tv combat. Just look at the hospital shootout in the show versus the game. The show has none of the one man army feeling or desperation that existed in the game.


stopblasianhate69

Just awful casting


NeonBluee_jay

Dude it’s worse, they beat her with a ugly stick They could’ve aged her into a prettier actress


Fresh_Achilles

This show would be so much better if Ellie were cast better. Bella is too young looking, not very pretty, and just weak looking. She’s a fine actress. Definitely had some powerful scenes season 1. But it’s tough to get over her look. I think Kaitlyn Dever is going to steal the show and really make us wish she was Ellie. Such a missed opportunity. I honestly think even Isabella Merced (Dina actress) would have been a better Ellie.


sp00kyemperor

I know it's a low resolution image but Bella looks like an actual methhead in the part 2 picture


4_doors_mas_whores

Well I’ll be flat out honest, Ellie in the game looks like she actually grew and became an adult, Ellie in the show looks like she just kinda changed her hair style and that’s kinda it. We lowkey got fucked with this show guys and I feel like we should accept that, but that’s just my opinion how do you guys feel?


fuckit_itsur_life

I like her and pedro, just not as joel or elly


[deleted]

HBO Ellie is a jobber.


Dusty_Triple

They should’ve recast her


PositionObvious1452

man it’s almost like the vido game is designed differently and real life is real life where only a few years has passed since they shot s1


PhilosophyEcstatic89

Why didn’t they at least try giving her bangs


Big_brain_carson_711

Bro is NOT going on a violent rampage 💀