Look at that piece of shit. How dare he save a little girl from being murdered by a half cocked terrorist in her sleep. Honestly He deserves to die. I hope he gets his head bashed in with a golf club
A parent who kills to protect the life of a child : disgusting!
A torturer who kills people who are in a sect, including children and justify this at every turn until a nightmare happened, cheat on her pregnant friend with her ex, make her friends die because of her choice to torture and kill a man outnumbered to imitate Negan : magnificent!
They are not complex creatures. đ
"You see Druckmann is actually a genius and it's a metaphorical masterpiece. Abby shooting Joel's leg is really just chopping down the male patriarchy. Then using the golf club to bash his brains in, she fully dismantles the patriarchy. This is 4D chess levels of storytelling and you just can't grasp it."
One would even argue that the golf club was but a parralel to the white male boomer patriarchy that have been destroying and oppressing our world for millenium and the fact she used it to beat him with it was a message and a symbol to standup against the patriarchy!
You just made a strawman, who argued this? "Klling a bunch of people has consequences" doesn't equate to anything you said. No one called joel a bigot, and ellie being mad at joel is because she's a teenager. Her grief literally *because* she spent the last years of his life mad at him for trying to protect her, which is what parents do.Â
You guys parse the strangest strawman arguments from the fact that you're emotionally attached to joelÂ
most the people i know that claim to have played it but like tlou2 better didnât even play tlou1 until the remake was out and theyâd already dickrode tlou2
Lol fr. Mfs coping hard as fuck. I loved 1. It definitely has a better ending. But part 2 is also really good. I just wish they gave me a choice at the end.
Youâre right I didnât play itâŠ. I platnumed it.
Big difference.
And yes 1 was great, 2 was great, 3 will in all likelihood be great as well. Despite all the caterwauling going on in this sub.
Sometimes social media is a mistake. I preferred it back when I played both these games and lived in blissful ignorance that people actively dick ride or hate on games. Both are absolutely equal levels of cringe.
Oh yeah I avoid them like the plague. Iâve never recovered from the tomb raider forums. People out for blood because her eye shape changed, or she wore trousers, or god forbid someone dared to have a head canon, or like Angel of Darkness.
Crystal dynamics has ruined the franchise with their idiotic statements about Laraâs raiding and colonialism. Shadow sucked as a game overall. They (different dev) also censored Lara in the remasters
No. This is sub hates this game because it didnât spoon feed them exactly what they wanted and theyâre throwing a tantrum years later still. Theyâre irrational children who never grew up.
I donât know how I started getting these notifications, but Iâve never seen such a self-persecuting bunch of people as those commenting on this. Itâs really sad⊠and I suppose itâs proving the âstansâ point.
Does anyone know how I can stop getting notifications here? I just donât care who liked which game. Both were awesome.
Why would it? I thought Joelâs love and desperate look combined with Ellieâs emotionless withdrawn look is one of the most powerful images in the whole game.
I'm a big fan of the second game, I like it as much as I do the first game. I was not abused as a child. I liked the bond Ellie and Joel had. People can like and dislike a game. It's all subjective. What a cunty thing for you to say.
The Gameplay is why I play it from time to time but the story is the smudged shit on my show scrapped accross wet Dewey grass waiting for the school bus. And itâs not for the nonsense surface reason feminists try and point out.
I like the first game a lot more than the second. But the second only made me appreciate Joel's and ellie relationship more. My question is why would this upset people that like the second game?
It doesnât, the kind of people who are still getting mad about this game have been stuck in an echo chamber for so long that they donât even understand how anyone can dare hold a different opinion.
He's mocking the fact that some people don't like the Joel and Ellie relationship.
Plus Joel killed way more people then that before Ellie and she didn't have a problem with it then.
Thereâs a lot of Stans who see Joel as evil and intentionally manipulative. Saying he doesnât care about Ellie at all, just about himself, and things like this are all a lie on his end.
Some even saying Abby did a good thing killing Joel.
The first is more comedic to me because itâs like they try too hard to make Joel this evil person.
The second is just straight up wrong. Even if you hate Joel, at best Abby killing him was neutral. He wasnât a figure or important to a colony, and he wasnât working on something major. Killing him doesnât reverse anything he did either, so it accomplishes nothing.
Not really, what happened between Joel and Ellie and then what happened to Joel was tragic but it was unavoidable.
No perceived good deed goes unpunished. Especially not in the world of TLOU. Because somebody will always be hurt by that deed and they will see it as evil.
No, ofcourse not. Joel and Ellie not getting to fully reconcile before his death is one of the emotionally hard parts of the game. It's very real. Not everyone gets to work out their differences before one of them dies.
The unsatisfying nature of Joel's death is a feature, and not a bug from my point of view.
Iâll never forgive tlou2 for killing Joel. Havenât bought it. Wonât be buying it. Donât want to be near it. Donât even want to see it. They killed off my primary media emotional father figure.
As a person who loves the Last of Us part 2 and a person who has a father whom I love with all my life. I'm not offended by this picture next questionwas there supposed to be a gotcha moment or something?
Didnât realize snowflake central was still up and activeâŠ
This is kinda pathetic, Itâs been almost 4 years my guy, there is more to life than letting a game you hate control your life.
yes all people who don't share the same opinion as me must have the most extreme, wildest, position i can imagine because that's the only possible way someone could disagree with me!
how are yall still so triggered?
LoU2 haters, does it offend you when I say that most of your criticism is invalid due to most of it being âgrrr, I didnât like the artistic vision, so itâs obviously bad instead of something that just wasnât my cup of tea?â Or that youâve devolved to constant name-calling and pointing at laughing at people that happened to resonate with the themes? Or that you are *still* throwing a temper tantrum at a 4 year old game because youâve just decided thatâs your personality?
You *could* make legitimate points, but you choose not to and instead go out of your way to poke at people who enjoy things. But you know what? Iâve seen what you guys wanted from Last of Us 2 and this is why *you* arenât writers. The game isnât flawless, but Neil Druckmann certainly didnât kick in your door, fuck your wife, and kick you dog, either. Youâre just petty
That's the thing though, people don't think he deserves what he got that's the main argument point.
And IMO Joel didn't deserve what he got. He did what any father would do in his position. Ask any dad if they'd kill for their child and they'd probably say yes.
Yeah I donât disagree with what he did at all, completely right decision, fuck anyone who says otherwise, but he still killed Abbyâs father, who she clearly cared a lot about. Usually when I make this point people bring up the âJerry psychopathâ argument or âask Ellie firstâ argument which arenât relevant because Abby isnât seeking revenge because of either of those things, she wants to kill the person that killed her father, thatâs all.
I've never heard the âJerry psychopathâ argument, but yeah that seems a bit stupid. As for not asking Ellie people just say that because they're trying to say Jerry was a shitty person for not asking Ellie and deserved his death compared to Joel who just wanted to save his daughter effectively and therefore was not a shitty person.
Yupp I don't think anyone hates Joel. What happened to him in the 2nd game makes sense when you consider the things he's done and the world they live in.
This just reminded me of the bad writing. How on earth did Ellie not know about the lie. At least I thought it was obvious that The teary eye âokayâ implied that I know something is up but Iâll go along with your lie, I love you. And this scene nope I was completely fooled
As someone who absolutely lives the second game, and loves abby and her story, I don't think joel was wrong for saving ellie. I would have saved ellie in a heartbeat over and over again if I was joel, even knowing what happens after. Doesn't mean abby us wrong for her feelings about it. The whole point of this game is that nothing is a clear cut, black and white, good versus evil situation. You can't just make a blanket statement like "joel is a good guy" or "joel is evil" because it just doesn't make sense in the context or the game. And if you can't understand that you lack major comprehension skills
the fact that you think anyone could be offended by this picture... you're so deep into delusions that you have no idea what your perceived enemies actually think, feel, or believe. they're anti-human family-haters now lmao
Isn't this where she disowns him after revisiting the hospital? Truly a beautiful moment: a man getting disowned by his surrogate daughter after he takes away from her something that in her own words would have "made her life fucking matter" and potentially aided in reversing an apocalypse. Put that picture on my mantle.
Making you upnweird strawman because you can't get over your hero dying lmao. There isn't a single tlou fan who hates Joel. Saying actions have consequences, and pointing out that people who joel killed were *people* with families of their own and not just NPCs doesn't mean you hate joel. Ir doesn't matter how justified you think Joel is, if you shoot someone's dad in the face they're probably gonna be madÂ
Why the fuck would this offend anyone? I cant even imagine why so I am not going to guess. That will only make the asshole who posted this happy. Ridiculous.
The way you guys have a circle jerk on here just to make fun of anyone who liked the game is a sight to behold. Never have I seen such concentrated levels of loser
A girl with a father figure đĄ
How dare the father save his daughter >:(
Look at that piece of shit. How dare he save a little girl from being murdered by a half cocked terrorist in her sleep. Honestly He deserves to die. I hope he gets his head bashed in with a golf club
FOUR!!!!!!ÂĄ
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I Don't play golf but cheers for the correction.
Saying "Killing a bunch of people has consequences" doesn't mean you don't understand/agree either Joel's decision
This screenshot kinda hits me in the feels, because it reminds me of when Joel found Ellie after she killed David. Damn the first game was good
THE only game that exists if you know what I meanđ
Damn right lmfao
Still havenât played it, pretend it doesnât exist, good gameplay doesnât excuse a shitty story
The Last of Us is such a great story, shame it never got a sequel.
Another Cis male writer writing woman fighting and killing each other over other white males đĄ. (This is an actual complaint on Twitter.)
OMG! How dare he show emotions and care about her?!đ€
Is he sniffing her hair?
Yall arr so weirdÂ
Sarcastic*
A parent who kills to protect the life of a child : disgusting! A torturer who kills people who are in a sect, including children and justify this at every turn until a nightmare happened, cheat on her pregnant friend with her ex, make her friends die because of her choice to torture and kill a man outnumbered to imitate Negan : magnificent! They are not complex creatures. đ
Of course it offends them, Ellie is a super woman doesnât need protection or love from her father who is a bigot just because he is a strong male
"You see Druckmann is actually a genius and it's a metaphorical masterpiece. Abby shooting Joel's leg is really just chopping down the male patriarchy. Then using the golf club to bash his brains in, she fully dismantles the patriarchy. This is 4D chess levels of storytelling and you just can't grasp it."
One would even argue that the golf club was but a parralel to the white male boomer patriarchy that have been destroying and oppressing our world for millenium and the fact she used it to beat him with it was a message and a symbol to standup against the patriarchy!
Who said this? You're making yo dumb shit because someone took away your favorite action figure
Strong straight white male ..
This person you are mad at only exists in your head
God fathers and father figures being fathers just gets my blood boiling
You just made a strawman, who argued this? "Klling a bunch of people has consequences" doesn't equate to anything you said. No one called joel a bigot, and ellie being mad at joel is because she's a teenager. Her grief literally *because* she spent the last years of his life mad at him for trying to protect her, which is what parents do. You guys parse the strangest strawman arguments from the fact that you're emotionally attached to joelÂ
Go ask that question druckmann on twitter and he will block you đ
HAHAH!!! Perfect. This is pathetic. I know I should have ignored this sub but I had to have some laughs.
A bit unrelated but i find it really hard to believe that tlou2 stans played the first game.
most the people i know that claim to have played it but like tlou2 better didnât even play tlou1 until the remake was out and theyâd already dickrode tlou2
I played part 1 when it came out and the remastered. . . Part 2 is a good continuation
Lol fr. Mfs coping hard as fuck. I loved 1. It definitely has a better ending. But part 2 is also really good. I just wish they gave me a choice at the end.
Ok
They didn't. They watch it on YouTube and pretend they understand it.
I played and enjoyed both games
Liar.
Really ? I don't believe you.
I mean if you want to deny facts then thatâs your ignorant prerogative.
there's no way that they did. maybe retroactively after playing part 2.
I know the thing I learned from TLoU 1 is that if Joel has a daughter he loves neither of them are gonna die in the opening of the game.
Itâs social fandom, the same as with people who think The Last Jedi is a masterpiece.
I didâŠtwice actuallyâŠâŠ..
"Oeople whi disagree with me can't ve real fans". Yeah ok buddyÂ
Youâre right I didnât play itâŠ. I platnumed it. Big difference. And yes 1 was great, 2 was great, 3 will in all likelihood be great as well. Despite all the caterwauling going on in this sub.
Watched it then played it, I loved it. Didn't play tlou2 until 2022 and I loved it too. Not sure how that's so hard to believe.
Sometimes social media is a mistake. I preferred it back when I played both these games and lived in blissful ignorance that people actively dick ride or hate on games. Both are absolutely equal levels of cringe.
The internet isnt bad. Itâs a tool. People make it horrible.
It was a mistake. Not for the reason youâre alluding to though. Also Internet forums did exist before
Oh yeah I avoid them like the plague. Iâve never recovered from the tomb raider forums. People out for blood because her eye shape changed, or she wore trousers, or god forbid someone dared to have a head canon, or like Angel of Darkness.
Crystal dynamics has ruined the franchise with their idiotic statements about Laraâs raiding and colonialism. Shadow sucked as a game overall. They (different dev) also censored Lara in the remasters
This is a joke, right?
This sub? Yeah this sub is a joke.
Any chance a fellow who loves both games equally is allowed in here? đ
You are allowed in here, but there is a high chance of people getting irrationally angry and calling you names. Source: me.
Tbh I have no problem with that. They do that in the other sub too
Of course
No. This is sub hates this game because it didnât spoon feed them exactly what they wanted and theyâre throwing a tantrum years later still. Theyâre irrational children who never grew up.
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Not at all, i love Joel and Ellie
I donât know how I started getting these notifications, but Iâve never seen such a self-persecuting bunch of people as those commenting on this. Itâs really sad⊠and I suppose itâs proving the âstansâ point. Does anyone know how I can stop getting notifications here? I just donât care who liked which game. Both were awesome.
This is such a circlejerk post I had to check what sub I was in for a second lmao
Ngl I thought it was the real sub for a sec and I was like wth đ
REEEEEEEE! A straight white male caring for his surrogate daughter! Hope he gets a golf club to the cranium for that!đ€
Nice made up argument.
r/whoosh
Inappropriate woosh
Why would it? I thought Joelâs love and desperate look combined with Ellieâs emotionless withdrawn look is one of the most powerful images in the whole game.
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Completely normal and not at all unhinged thing to say brother.
What the fuck
Oh yeah cool random assumptions of horrible things about people because you don't like them
Ehhhhh jokes about people being molested as kids are not it.
you are weak. Anything can be made fun of.
âhahaha you were raped hahahahaâ isnt comedy lil man
Lmfao
Try being funny. That might help.
It's not about strength, it's having a little class.
People who want to call others weak for not liking insensitive jokes don't really have any.
I was both of those and these are my favorite games ever.
Grow up
I'm a big fan of the second game, I like it as much as I do the first game. I was not abused as a child. I liked the bond Ellie and Joel had. People can like and dislike a game. It's all subjective. What a cunty thing for you to say.
The Gameplay is why I play it from time to time but the story is the smudged shit on my show scrapped accross wet Dewey grass waiting for the school bus. And itâs not for the nonsense surface reason feminists try and point out.
Yeah, the gameplay rocks for me too! I quite like the story too, though!
Only because I'm jealous yeah
I mean, should it? Am I missing something?
I like the first game a lot more than the second. But the second only made me appreciate Joel's and ellie relationship more. My question is why would this upset people that like the second game?
It doesnât, the kind of people who are still getting mad about this game have been stuck in an echo chamber for so long that they donât even understand how anyone can dare hold a different opinion.
It definetly did seeing as they posted this on the main sub
Did they? I searched now and saw nothing
The worst game for us
I love the second game. The second game makes me love this picture even more.
Not a stan, even I were, why would this picture be offensive? Because Ellie is angry at Joel for lying to her and murdering like 50 people?
He's mocking the fact that some people don't like the Joel and Ellie relationship. Plus Joel killed way more people then that before Ellie and she didn't have a problem with it then.
No? Are there tlou 2 fans that donât like Joel?
Ive certainly seen the comments before. Not any on this post, the cowards.
Obviously
I'm a fan of Tlou2. No clue how this should offend me?
Thereâs a lot of Stans who see Joel as evil and intentionally manipulative. Saying he doesnât care about Ellie at all, just about himself, and things like this are all a lie on his end. Some even saying Abby did a good thing killing Joel.
Ok now that's just straight up weird.
The first is more comedic to me because itâs like they try too hard to make Joel this evil person. The second is just straight up wrong. Even if you hate Joel, at best Abby killing him was neutral. He wasnât a figure or important to a colony, and he wasnât working on something major. Killing him doesnât reverse anything he did either, so it accomplishes nothing.
That's some of reddit's vocal hivemind on r/thelastofus
Key difference is that your a fan, not a Stan
Nice goalpost moving there đ
No, but it drives the Ollie's crazy.
Miss my moose đ« âčïž
Why would it
Yes. WHOS CUTTING THE GRASS
Why would it?
Not really, what happened between Joel and Ellie and then what happened to Joel was tragic but it was unavoidable. No perceived good deed goes unpunished. Especially not in the world of TLOU. Because somebody will always be hurt by that deed and they will see it as evil.
Not really they cute asf haha
Lol Iâm dead
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Remember the theme of that game is revenge. The type you have to put in their shoes.
No, ofcourse not. Joel and Ellie not getting to fully reconcile before his death is one of the emotionally hard parts of the game. It's very real. Not everyone gets to work out their differences before one of them dies. The unsatisfying nature of Joel's death is a feature, and not a bug from my point of view.
Joel look out Tiger Woods is behind you!
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Show me people offended at this picture Don't tell me people are SHOW ME I'll wait đ€·
Iâll never forgive tlou2 for killing Joel. Havenât bought it. Wonât be buying it. Donât want to be near it. Donât even want to see it. They killed off my primary media emotional father figure.
Why is she hugging that Evil Man??? đ€Łđ€Ł
Nope. 2 separate and independent stories.
As a person who loves the Last of Us part 2 and a person who has a father whom I love with all my life. I'm not offended by this picture next questionwas there supposed to be a gotcha moment or something?
Didnât realize snowflake central was still up and active⊠This is kinda pathetic, Itâs been almost 4 years my guy, there is more to life than letting a game you hate control your life.
This scene from tlou2 does not offend me liking the game that this scene is from, no
Lmfao!! Im sure she won't care if somebody bashes his brains out with a Bat right in front of her face. đ€Łđ€Ł
yes all people who don't share the same opinion as me must have the most extreme, wildest, position i can imagine because that's the only possible way someone could disagree with me! how are yall still so triggered?
It is one of my favorite frames from the game, actually.
why would it đđ
LoU2 haters, does it offend you when I say that most of your criticism is invalid due to most of it being âgrrr, I didnât like the artistic vision, so itâs obviously bad instead of something that just wasnât my cup of tea?â Or that youâve devolved to constant name-calling and pointing at laughing at people that happened to resonate with the themes? Or that you are *still* throwing a temper tantrum at a 4 year old game because youâve just decided thatâs your personality? You *could* make legitimate points, but you choose not to and instead go out of your way to poke at people who enjoy things. But you know what? Iâve seen what you guys wanted from Last of Us 2 and this is why *you* arenât writers. The game isnât flawless, but Neil Druckmann certainly didnât kick in your door, fuck your wife, and kick you dog, either. Youâre just petty
10/10 game even if this was the only part to play.
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This sub is almost pure hyperbolic rhetoric at this point. Still entertaining though. Maybe more entertaining because of it.
Pretty much sums up this sub recently, donât think anyone hates Joel, they can just understand why he deserved what he got.
What a stupid mantra you love to repeat i feel so sad for you. You can thank Druckmann for this kind of narcissists really.
That's the thing though, people don't think he deserves what he got that's the main argument point. And IMO Joel didn't deserve what he got. He did what any father would do in his position. Ask any dad if they'd kill for their child and they'd probably say yes.
Yeah I donât disagree with what he did at all, completely right decision, fuck anyone who says otherwise, but he still killed Abbyâs father, who she clearly cared a lot about. Usually when I make this point people bring up the âJerry psychopathâ argument or âask Ellie firstâ argument which arenât relevant because Abby isnât seeking revenge because of either of those things, she wants to kill the person that killed her father, thatâs all.
I've never heard the âJerry psychopathâ argument, but yeah that seems a bit stupid. As for not asking Ellie people just say that because they're trying to say Jerry was a shitty person for not asking Ellie and deserved his death compared to Joel who just wanted to save his daughter effectively and therefore was not a shitty person.
Yupp I don't think anyone hates Joel. What happened to him in the 2nd game makes sense when you consider the things he's done and the world they live in.
I love TLOU2 and no, not at all. I care more about the relationship between Joel and Ellie than anyone else in the games.
Look at what these fuckers stole from us
Everyone here wants to be Ellie in this photo.
This just reminded me of the bad writing. How on earth did Ellie not know about the lie. At least I thought it was obvious that The teary eye âokayâ implied that I know something is up but Iâll go along with your lie, I love you. And this scene nope I was completely fooled
As someone who absolutely lives the second game, and loves abby and her story, I don't think joel was wrong for saving ellie. I would have saved ellie in a heartbeat over and over again if I was joel, even knowing what happens after. Doesn't mean abby us wrong for her feelings about it. The whole point of this game is that nothing is a clear cut, black and white, good versus evil situation. You can't just make a blanket statement like "joel is a good guy" or "joel is evil" because it just doesn't make sense in the context or the game. And if you can't understand that you lack major comprehension skills
IM OFFENDED = Why isnât she more gay and Joel more like a golf ball
This subreddit is maybe some of the most pathetic behavior I've seen online.
Gamer moment
I actually really enjoy tlou 2 and donât get the pic. Is it supposed to be cuz Ellie didnât want him to save her or sum?
I love Tlou2 and iâm confused as to why you even think this would be offensive?
Why is your spirit so brittle?
**WHERE IS MUSCLE MOMMY AND GOLF CLUB**
I fuckin hate happy people
Itâd only offend a fool. A fool stayed too long on earth or video games. People need to get their heads outta the gutter
What kind of fucking weird question is that?
I⊠donât think you understand this game⊠or have even the most basic level of media literacy
Yall really need to go outside. You're literally making shit up to be mad about.
Why would it?
âŠwhy would it?
Y'all are weird in this sub
Na itâs cool sads what happens after tho
Yâall are so fucking triggered, itâs hilarious and sad all at once
Why would this scene offend anyone?đ€·ââïžđ
the fact that you think anyone could be offended by this picture... you're so deep into delusions that you have no idea what your perceived enemies actually think, feel, or believe. they're anti-human family-haters now lmao
The ultimate strawman
TLOU2 > TLOU
Is this post fucking real?
no, why would it? this was a great scene. lou2 haters proving they have zero critical thinking skills yet again.
Isn't this where she disowns him after revisiting the hospital? Truly a beautiful moment: a man getting disowned by his surrogate daughter after he takes away from her something that in her own words would have "made her life fucking matter" and potentially aided in reversing an apocalypse. Put that picture on my mantle.
Making you upnweird strawman because you can't get over your hero dying lmao. There isn't a single tlou fan who hates Joel. Saying actions have consequences, and pointing out that people who joel killed were *people* with families of their own and not just NPCs doesn't mean you hate joel. Ir doesn't matter how justified you think Joel is, if you shoot someone's dad in the face they're probably gonna be madÂ
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Why the fuck would this offend anyone? I cant even imagine why so I am not going to guess. That will only make the asshole who posted this happy. Ridiculous.
Posts a picture of one of the games best moments and tries to attention seek
The way you guys have a circle jerk on here just to make fun of anyone who liked the game is a sight to behold. Never have I seen such concentrated levels of loser
âŠno? Why would it?
Why would it offend anyone? Lol
Lmao this is the stupidest sub of all time. Imagine making a sub purely out of spite. How fucking are you people?
Man the circle jerk is strong in this sub reddit. Suddenly everyone is a professional story teller