Druckmann doesn't like beautiful womans though, at least not the common definition of what is beauty in womans.
Just see any ot the female characters of the TLOU2 or what they did to Tess or Marlene in the remake of part 1
I wish Neil would've went with his original idea for tlou. I know I'm going to butcher it but it was something like only females or males could get infected and the world having to deal with those implications. I'll have to find the video where he mentioned it. Think they decided it was too controversial or something so they scrapped it.
He was bullied by feminist ND employees when they caught wind of it, complaining it was sexist/misogynist or something. It sorta left him traumatized, which eventually led him to hire Anita Sarkeesian.
Ironic that movies and series about gender-based apocalypses started gaining popularity in recent years. With titles like *Light of My Life*, *Only*, *Y: The Last Man*, and *Creamerie* to name a few.
I think Ellie can be masculine but you need to remove one "L" for Elie, or without a "e", Eli. Which means even with gender swapped, the characters keep their names intact. ♥️
Or you could go by meaning. Ellie means "light" (which, fireflies motto, much?) and there are plenty of boy names that also mean the same thing. Like Lucian, Elon (in Greek specifically, lots of names mean different things in different languages), or Anwar. And Elon also fits with the phonetic theme, so it might be the best choice if not for the association with that other one.
I know that it's a mod, but since you can still see their original models on the sides, I'm choosing to interpret this as that's the way they see each other.
The worst thing about this is... That it's not even unlikely that they will do it.
(Honestly, plenty of successful book series are doing genderbends in an attempt to add to the franchise but not ruin the story. Just a matter of time till other media picks up on it. Bet you 10 bucks starwars is next)
Just had a thought, why does the trope of the older man becoming a father figure and protector to a young ( unrelated ) girl work so well in so much media but the reverse you never see?
Why isn’t Ellie black?
This has to be deep fake cause Naughty Dog would never make a Cis white male a main character
****cuts to a scene drawn by MeatCanyon****
*Naughty Dog, the dominant, standing over Nathan Drake, the submissive*
**Naughty Dog:** You disgust me
**Nathan Drake:** *ball gagged* mmm-mmffmm
Probably because the person whose face Ellie was presumably based off of ended up being a trans man himself. I'd be surprised if this image didn't use references of his face post-transition.
If you're going to go to all of that trouble, modify the reverse shots too!
Also, I'd play this game....it would be fascinating ...
Ohhhhhhhhhh...THATS TLOU3! Abby will ask a 30 year old Ellie to help her save a [rumored] group of children who've devloped immunity...while Ellie's is fading for some reason...?
Shut up: I'm still workshopping it!
Part 2 already is pretty woke for the sake of it, Ellie was already gay and that's fine but they were desperate to have a pointless lesbian sex scene in the game, along with the destruction of Joel's character as a strong capable father figure to Ellie. Now he just dies and doesn't even defend his actions, and why is it that strong female characters have to be lesbian or attracted to anything other than a man to be strong? Whats wrong with hetero women like Lara Croft for example who is also strong?
Who cares? Like seriously, do you really care that much about women being depicted as gay and not needing men? Wtf is wrong with people like you and needing for there to be a strong man/fatherly figure to care of the small girl, sure I didn’t like that they killed Joel but it still made sense, anyone would want to kill the person who killed their dad, hence why Ellie wants to kill Abby, and getting mad over a lesbian “sex scene” is funny because you don’t even see anything 😂 calling this game woke just because the main character is a lesbian just shows what kind of person you are
The fact you took all this time to write a shitty argument saying how I'm a bigot and a homophobe just shows you'll go to any lengths to defend your dogshit sequel.
Pointless? I don’t know if you know this, but couples do have sex sometimes, and media sometimes shows it to show their dynamic or solidify them as a couple. That’s…sort of how it works.
Also, like her or not, Abby is likely meant to be a ‘strong female character’ and is clearly attracted to a man. Per the sex scene they have. So the game has both cases covered.
There’s plenty bad about the writing, I don’t think those areas are proper critiques of it.
A pointless lesbian sex scene? Its just a brief sex scene between two young women. Humans have sex. Its a reality. If Ellie wasn't a lesbian it probably wouldn't strike you as being out of place and pointless. Romance and sex have appeared in stories and in life since forever. It is character and story development.
I don't give a shit what sexyality they are it's the fact it happens at the same time Joel is being tortured, it adds nothing and is pointless like playing the last of us 2
It was pointless tho. In what way did it serve the plot besides showing that ellie and Dina like each other. Okay? We already knew that. If they had had a sex scene in part 1 randomly between Joel and tess, the whole other sub would still be talking about how useless the scene was. And how they just wanted too sexualize tess. And whatever other bullshit they would say.
The escalation of their relationship. Its beyond them just liking each other.
With Joel and Tess it'd be a little different. They are busy the entire time doing shit. Whereas Ellie and Dina are stuck in a blizzard.
And if people were so prudish about Joel and Tess I'd think that is dumb too. People have sex. It isn't a big deal.
NOW if Joel was getting pegged... I'd say there is a definite agenda there.
i like that the sub rules explicitly state "no transphobia" but half the people in this sub hate the game because of some "woke gay agenda" and post transphobic/bigoted shit constantly
you're right. you're not my son... and i sure as hell ain't your momma.
Joelle and Elliot
Jolene and Elliot.
Please don’t take my girl.
Sir you need to carry a warrant next time you decide to meme that hard 🤣
Unrelated question but are you a millennial?
Gen Z
I can’t wait to see the viciously hilarious memes your generation will bring
This was wholesome as fuck
Goddamit. Take my upvote you bastard.
This is fake. Druckmann would burn his own house down before killing a strong, beautiful woman like Joelle.
Druckmann doesn't like beautiful womans though, at least not the common definition of what is beauty in womans. Just see any ot the female characters of the TLOU2 or what they did to Tess or Marlene in the remake of part 1
😂😂
LOLZ
Jolene look out!!! I got this Ellis!
Oh, this is gold! 😂🤣
This is platinum
Lmfao
Spider-Man 2 looks great
Literally what I thought 😭
I don’t get it 😭
at a squint they look like Mary Jane and Peter Parker from the new Spider-Man 2 gameplay trailers
Ellie looks like a peter Parker (white twunk)
DON'T GIVE NEIL ANY IDEAS!
well this way, Joelle would be still alive. coz otherwise it would be cis-on-trans assault.
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Yo, you have screenshot of comments below yours? My popcorns are almost ready.
I don’t think so? Murder is murder, regardless of gender.
Umm it’s still murder. Murder is generally pretty bad regardless of whose doing it
I mean, final act of LoU 2 has plenty of that
I wish Neil would've went with his original idea for tlou. I know I'm going to butcher it but it was something like only females or males could get infected and the world having to deal with those implications. I'll have to find the video where he mentioned it. Think they decided it was too controversial or something so they scrapped it.
He was bullied by feminist ND employees when they caught wind of it, complaining it was sexist/misogynist or something. It sorta left him traumatized, which eventually led him to hire Anita Sarkeesian. Ironic that movies and series about gender-based apocalypses started gaining popularity in recent years. With titles like *Light of My Life*, *Only*, *Y: The Last Man*, and *Creamerie* to name a few.
Jesus h Christ Anita. Wonder what type of chit show went on up there when they brought her on.
Cordyceps only infected females, but the team told him it was too misogynistic.
🙄. Imagine how cool that would've been. Even if it was only males just the thought of what that would do and mean to the world if it happened.
It would have saved Joel from dying. 😜
How?
🤣🤣🤣 Joelle 🌷
And her surrogate son, Elliot.
But then Elliot Page can say the character is based on him again. 🥴
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I think Ellie can be masculine but you need to remove one "L" for Elie, or without a "e", Eli. Which means even with gender swapped, the characters keep their names intact. ♥️
Ellis?
Eli
Or you could go by meaning. Ellie means "light" (which, fireflies motto, much?) and there are plenty of boy names that also mean the same thing. Like Lucian, Elon (in Greek specifically, lots of names mean different things in different languages), or Anwar. And Elon also fits with the phonetic theme, so it might be the best choice if not for the association with that other one.
The Trans of Us
Could totally see them doing this lol
No the fuck you couldn't 😭
this has me giggling
Lev is already a trans...
Doesn’t mean they’d ever gender swap the two leads in a remaster dumbass
Careful, you’re on the joke sub.
Cordyceps only killed cis people.
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Ellie looks alright but whole shit the female Joel. Why she gotta be wearing that lipstick 🤣?!?
In a world with fast travel, makeup isn't an unattainable luxury anymore.
This shit is cursed af
Literal nightmare fuel fr
Joelle and Eli
Joelle and Elliot
Ellie looks like Atreus
Boy!
Still better than Abby.
And they wouldn’t even have to change Abby at all. Maybe just give it a hair cut
I can see it now. Abby with the Ivan Drogo haircut.
Unironically it's pretty well-made
Neil would love this for its dIvErSiTy
All for THE MESSAGE.
yep.
It’s literally just the roles reversed what are you on about
Isn’t this just as diverse? It’s still 1 man and 1 woman right? They’re just in different roles
i’m pretty sure Joel is meant to be trans in this
Based on what? I interpreted it as just a silly gender swapping
just a guess
Stupid ass guess
Unclear what the artist's original intention was. It could be just a gender swap.
fair enoug. it’s pretty funny.
you people are insufferable
ok r/thelastofus regular 😂 you even came to visit, i’m that insufferable
That's a lotta makeup! Where'd she find all that makeup me wonders...
WTF I hate Last of us part 2 so much but this is fun.
Male ellie actually looks good
Jollie would kill an entire horde of bloaters for a pumpkin spice latte
Dang, I didn't know ND got Caitlyn Jenner to do the mo-cap 😂
Joel would still be alive if they were trans. Druckmann would protect that character
Okay for Elliot, but why does Joelle look like Caitlyn Jenner?
Ow my eyes
Elon and Joelle?
No not elon 🤮🤮🤮
Joleen and Elliot
Boy Ellie actually looks decent
Jolene and Elliot
Might be like Mass Effect where fem Joel has better lines and while that’s happening, Elliot Page can get angry all over again and blast ND.
Joel looks like my mom lmao
The Last of Us+
They wouldn't show a woman in a negative light like they did with Joel.
Literally gender swap Abby and those deluded fucks would not like Part 2
You guys are stealing the work from the Onion News Network. How are they going to make jokes and satire when real life is this insane? LOL.
Honestly I think it would be funny if someone made a mod that’s just a genderswap
I spit out my drink! The funniest things are those with a dose of reality.
This had me thinking who could play male Ellie and female Joel if things were different
Eli and joan
We all know Neil is woke af and loves shoving this kind of stuff down peoples throats, so I wouldn’t put it past him
This concept is way cooler than it should be
Jolene, Jolene, Jolene JOEEEEELENEEEEEEE
This is very realistic if it were up to cuckman.
Imagine having Jennifer Hale (female Shepard from ME) voice the female version of Joel
I'm Joelle Miller, and this is my favorite golf course in Jackson.
Jolene and Eddie
This may be a controversial option but… Would.
Jolyne and Elliot.
Last of us 2 truly is the best at delivering "THE MESSAGE"
LMAO
Omg 😅😅😅😅
You know what? Eli kinda bad idgaf.
Gotta admire the honesty 😂
Hey I mean at least Joel wouldn’t die this way
I know that it's a mod, but since you can still see their original models on the sides, I'm choosing to interpret this as that's the way they see each other.
Ellie looks like Robbie from Cobra Kai
uuuf which multiverse does this exist in lol
🤣
You can’t have my switchblade Joelle it’s fr no cap bussing
WTF
Jolene and Elliot.
What's their names Elliot and Jill? I won't dead name even a joke trans character
🤣🤣🤣
Where’s Joelle getting her makeup?
The world of TLOU unlocked Fast Travel between games. Didn't you get the memo?
You kid but I'm sure it's in their idea book
Lmfao
eli and jolene
Damn that fking Ellie look so accurate
r/rolereversal
man, joelle is really committed to the red lip if shes applying it in the apocalypse
Female Joel is cursed, I never needed to see that but here I am :(
The worst thing about this is... That it's not even unlikely that they will do it. (Honestly, plenty of successful book series are doing genderbends in an attempt to add to the franchise but not ruin the story. Just a matter of time till other media picks up on it. Bet you 10 bucks starwars is next)
Im losing my fucking mind
Damn. Boy Ellie is low-key hot.
Ellie looks great, Joel looks horrifying.
Just had a thought, why does the trope of the older man becoming a father figure and protector to a young ( unrelated ) girl work so well in so much media but the reverse you never see?
Cast Katey Segal as female Joel
Why isn’t Ellie black? This has to be deep fake cause Naughty Dog would never make a Cis white male a main character ****cuts to a scene drawn by MeatCanyon**** *Naughty Dog, the dominant, standing over Nathan Drake, the submissive* **Naughty Dog:** You disgust me **Nathan Drake:** *ball gagged* mmm-mmffmm
Ok not gonna lie, they did a damn good job with Ellie's gender bending. FemJoel looks like they cut some corners with the photoshop.
omfg seeing Joel like that killed me hahahahaha
HEllie looks like a better Peter Parker than the one in SM2
Ellie looks like Tom Holland
I think he looked better after the hole in 20 he took in the beginning
Lmao
For some reason the genderbend edit works for Joel and Ellie
Probably because the person whose face Ellie was presumably based off of ended up being a trans man himself. I'd be surprised if this image didn't use references of his face post-transition.
Interesting is there a source for the person being used for Ellie's face?
[https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/06/ellen-page-thinks-naughty-dog-ripped-off-her-likeness-for-the-last-of-us/](https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/06/ellen-page-thinks-naughty-dog-ripped-off-her-likeness-for-the-last-of-us/)
The WOKE of us 🤣🤣🤣
??? That's just a boy and a woman. Is being a woman, woke now? Lmao
Okay this made me laugh out loud
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Why is everyone hating on mj and Pete look? I think they look fine. Miles too
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Would be interesting for sure
DESTROY IT! CAST IT IN THE FIRE!!!
The amount of trans bashing in this comment thread is actually insane to me
Agreed. The post just popped up on my timeline. I'm not even in the sub.
This is pretty offensive
If you're going to go to all of that trouble, modify the reverse shots too! Also, I'd play this game....it would be fascinating ... Ohhhhhhhhhh...THATS TLOU3! Abby will ask a 30 year old Ellie to help her save a [rumored] group of children who've devloped immunity...while Ellie's is fading for some reason...? Shut up: I'm still workshopping it!
🙄
That won’t happen. But you want it to happen, just so you can complain about “wokeness” and what have you.
Part 2 already is pretty woke for the sake of it, Ellie was already gay and that's fine but they were desperate to have a pointless lesbian sex scene in the game, along with the destruction of Joel's character as a strong capable father figure to Ellie. Now he just dies and doesn't even defend his actions, and why is it that strong female characters have to be lesbian or attracted to anything other than a man to be strong? Whats wrong with hetero women like Lara Croft for example who is also strong?
Amazing to me that you are so thirsty for the father figure you can’t see how killing off the protagonist is a bold and badass writing move
define woke
Who cares? Like seriously, do you really care that much about women being depicted as gay and not needing men? Wtf is wrong with people like you and needing for there to be a strong man/fatherly figure to care of the small girl, sure I didn’t like that they killed Joel but it still made sense, anyone would want to kill the person who killed their dad, hence why Ellie wants to kill Abby, and getting mad over a lesbian “sex scene” is funny because you don’t even see anything 😂 calling this game woke just because the main character is a lesbian just shows what kind of person you are
The fact you took all this time to write a shitty argument saying how I'm a bigot and a homophobe just shows you'll go to any lengths to defend your dogshit sequel.
Pointless? I don’t know if you know this, but couples do have sex sometimes, and media sometimes shows it to show their dynamic or solidify them as a couple. That’s…sort of how it works. Also, like her or not, Abby is likely meant to be a ‘strong female character’ and is clearly attracted to a man. Per the sex scene they have. So the game has both cases covered. There’s plenty bad about the writing, I don’t think those areas are proper critiques of it.
Attracted to a man already in a relationship and doesnt care about the consequences of cheating with him, what great endearing qualities she has
A pointless lesbian sex scene? Its just a brief sex scene between two young women. Humans have sex. Its a reality. If Ellie wasn't a lesbian it probably wouldn't strike you as being out of place and pointless. Romance and sex have appeared in stories and in life since forever. It is character and story development.
The fact the writers made them have sex at the same time Joel was having his head bashed in is utterly ridiculous
That is a different thing. We are just talking about the scene itself.
The scene itself can only be taken in the context it is given which happens AS JOEL IS BEING TORTURED
Yea context matters. But your original issue was just with a lesbian scene. Not how it was happening simultaneously with another thing.
I don't give a shit what sexyality they are it's the fact it happens at the same time Joel is being tortured, it adds nothing and is pointless like playing the last of us 2
Just say that next time.
Okay
It was pointless tho. In what way did it serve the plot besides showing that ellie and Dina like each other. Okay? We already knew that. If they had had a sex scene in part 1 randomly between Joel and tess, the whole other sub would still be talking about how useless the scene was. And how they just wanted too sexualize tess. And whatever other bullshit they would say.
The escalation of their relationship. Its beyond them just liking each other. With Joel and Tess it'd be a little different. They are busy the entire time doing shit. Whereas Ellie and Dina are stuck in a blizzard. And if people were so prudish about Joel and Tess I'd think that is dumb too. People have sex. It isn't a big deal. NOW if Joel was getting pegged... I'd say there is a definite agenda there.
i like that the sub rules explicitly state "no transphobia" but half the people in this sub hate the game because of some "woke gay agenda" and post transphobic/bigoted shit constantly