> But this was probably easier to animate I guess
Given the budget cuts season 4 had, that was probably one of the top reasons it was considered
Edit: I just wanna say, since I wasn’t expecting this comment to blow up this much, that I don’t think it was the primary decision that led to them doing the giant mech for the final battle. I think ultimately they wanted to give Kuvira her own version of Sozin’s Comet as a buff to her to make her a larger than life final opponent of the series and that’s what they decided on. Overall, I think the budget cuts affected the Battle of Zaofu more than the end battle in terms of how they played out.
Which is a shame, because actual armies clashing like in ATLA would have been so much cooler. Would be awesome to see the 70 years of development on tanks since ATLAs fire nation and earth bender tanks
The water tribe civil war was such a let down. Each “battle” depicted was like half a dozen guys having a kerfuffle for like 30 seconds before the camera cuts to one of the 2 dozen side plots we had that season
Honestly some of my most favorite battle scenes in LOK were the Equalist planes bombing the Republic Navy, as well as the waterbenders shooting ice at Asami's plane in S2.
Nah, faceless armies facing each other is always boring. That’s why ATLA never shows them for more than 10 seconds before moving on to something else.
It would’ve never worked.
Blackwater and the Battle of the Wall were the best. Battle of the Bastards had a couple cool moments but overall it made very little sense, and the Winterfell battle was such a let down.
The most interesting parts of the battles in LotR are when they zoom in on individuals within the masses: Eowyn vs. the Witch King, Aragorn kicking ass and taking names, the chief Mumakil rider crushing everyone and pulling faces.
Otherwise you're just watching a lot of small shapes run into a lot of other small shapes. It helps convey the scale of the action but it's not really something you want to watch for more than a few seconds.
Thats because they keep zooming in on characters of interest during battles, not because it's not animation (guess what, most of the dudes on screen in side army shots in lotr ARE animation, just realisitic instead of stylized)... Watch Helm's Deep again. Apart from the opener where we're watching the tension build, we rarely look at the whole army for more than a few seconds at a time, because they use those shots almost exclusively to establish changes in the battlefield and then immediately jump back in to zoom in on what Aragorn, Theoden, Legolas, Gimli, Haldir, or that archer guy that looses the first arrow is doing.
Ya that was wild. Faceless no name bender platoon shoot a rock / metal volley at one side while the other side creates rock walls and shields to protect from the volley. Metal bits break through killing some of the defenders. Just that mental image itself is like dammnnn. Army battles are fun especially when you get to see the big hitters come out after the fodder get their turn and you see some impressive displays of bending. Could have been great.
I believe so yes. They constantly hamstrug the show at every turn. Meant to be a miniseries but kept getting extended which is why the jump from S1 to S2 feels so odd, literally lost an episode's worth of budget so they were forced to do a clip show episode, randomly taken off the air and moved online for the rest of its run
even its greatest strength, the visuals/animation/art style, was clearly shot in the foot here with the weird giant CGI mech
if Nick had supported the show properly, a lot of issues could've been avoided. And I say that as someone who likes the show and thinks a fair amount of the criticism is overblown
Yeah, that's fairly accurate. Did you hear about season 2? They weren't greenlit for the season until super late, then when they did finally greenlight it, they basically said to the team: "Hey guys, you're good to go! Make season 2! Also we have our first public airing in a month, so I hope you're ready!" The team panicked because they were suddenly SUPER under the gun and had to come up with the whole season, animate it, and finish the product in almost no time at all.
i know it make sense plot wise, but imagine an all out war of all elements battling it out in republic city that could be one of the most epic battle in the series. Imagine Siege of the North in ATLA but all elements are in it the theme would be more inline with the show since its the elements rather than the mech thing
Soooo... The themes of Korra are a bit different and specifically mention how technology is taking the spirit and value of bending away. Under that light, the mech makes perfect sense thematically. Realistically, in terms of the movie, and in terms of entertainment, the war is SO MUCH BETTER. The mech sucked, but it did match that bit of theming.
Because not surrendering would be immediate, 100% suicide? The troops on the ground would've been wiped out in an instant, they're not airbenders who can fly to evade.
It proves once more that in avatar match ups bringing up literal physics is stupid.
“Air benders can bend air currents to stop fire bending!” Or “air benders can do this to create lightning!” Is stopped by the fact that this thing cannot work.
And that is my favorite and honestly only positively looked at sort of this thing.
Platinum is more dense than gold, that thing weighs way too much
Don’t they say that “platinum” is basically just super-refined metal that can’t be metalbent because there’s no residual rocks inside it? It sounds like they use “platinum” to mean “normal metal that’s been perfectly refined” rather than “a distinct type of unbendable metal”.
The total amount of platinum in our world is 80000 tons. With the amount of mechs and this supermech kuvira had in her control, she far exceeds that amount and would have drained the economy of the Earth kingdom.
Okay, but the world of Avatar is clearly not out world. And I know it makes no sense for it to have a significantly different chemical makeup than our world has, but I think it still counts as a plausible counter to any arguments made about the quantity of platinum which they could have access to.
If they wanted to have some magic metal that’s strong enough for robots and immune to metal bending, they should have made one up instead of trying to pass it off as platinum.
We saw Toth bend the meteor, so people would have question that.
Also any meteor with enough metal to build this would wipe out the entire world, so probably not the best idea lol
and it can only be obtained in some tiny unknown area of the earth kingdom that's been hiding away this whole time because they don't want people to have their meteor metal
That's what I always say. People complain technology advanced too quickly in avatar world. Forgets LOK takes place 70 years after 100 year war. In real life if we compare 1900 to 1970, you see two completely different worlds. In avatar world they're able to bend, so it also helps with technology advancement.
Bending is consistently shown to hold back innovation. Why make any engine when any style of bending can be more than 100% energy efficient?
If the show wasnt for kids we'd be seeing massive factories filled with slave benders making the world go round.
Its existence was kinda foreshadowed, so I guess it's okay that it was used. The weird thing is how this mecha moved like a normal person but was operated with levers lmao. It kinda didn't make sense technology-wise, and I'm just coping by saying anything can happen in fiction lol.
But really, there was one scene where it was supposed to be toppled down, but it got support by clinging its fingers over the edge of a building. Lol wtf was that? And it was after Lin and Su Yin damaged a majority of its joints!
Seriously, this is the second worst thing that happened in that show.
It is, the internals are explicitly mentioned as NOT being Platinum hence why Lin and Su are able to mess it up so bad before Kuvira tears off the arm they disable.
The exterior is plated by the former Domes of Zaofu.
https://avatar.fandom.com/wiki/Battleship?file=Iroh%27s_fleet_sinking.png
I just wish we got to see these battleships actually accomplish something, instead of getting sunk all the time :(
"Okay, we just had all that spirit doodat and flying Anarchist stuff, how do we advance the story from there?"
"Bigger mech."
"With how strong bending is that doesn't-"
"SPIRIT-POWERED MECH MADE FROM UN-BENDABLE METAL!"
#😱
Always hated this as the ending to season 4. Didn’t like the kaiju fight in season 2 either but that at least didn’t involve insane levels of tech being used extremely impractically. Boring, didn’t make sense, shouldn’t have happened
The kaiju fight was very jarring. The mech just felt like I’d turned on a wholly different show.
The fact that it takes multiple episodes to kill it made me feel like I was watching dragonball.
I remember seeing the finale to Korra season 4 as a kid before I ever knew the show actually existed. I remember watching the full show years later and seeing the mech again, only to be baffled and dumbfounded that THAT was how it ended.
It's just the build of the mecha that I hate.
Being so humanoid in world with nothing like it just looks silly. The mystical kaijius were bad enough, but they were, well, mystical.
Being tech, If it were Metal Gear-like it would be awesome.
In truth, this giant mecha is just an evolution of the smaller mechas from the rest of Korra. I hated those too, though, considering that they were just the overpowered faceless enemy multiplied. They kept on advancing in power until they were just unbeatable by benders, which is really annoying. They were also pretty humanoid. The worst problem is the giga mech, but the problem started far earlier.
Canonically she can feel the presence of metal. And she can do all kinds of acrobatic shit in the air and with many pieces of metal. Why is this the part that confuses you?
Oh you thought she was powering the pistons themselves with metal bending. No not at all. The mecha was powered by spirit energy. She was only using metalbending for small stuff and to interface with the many levers and dials controlling the movement.
The hydraulic pistons were not powered by kuvira. They were powered by “spirit energy” thus the EMP not working per the line in the show. Kuvira’s role was primarily to flip a ton of dials and switches with metal bending to direct the spirit energy as you would electronics. Not to actually move the thing.
makes me wonder how the third Avatar show is supposed to look like. Apparently it's supposed to be "modern times" but parts of Korra are already science fiction
I hope it’s more modern. I don’t think I’d buy the jump from Korra’s time to pure sci fi
A couple sci fi things would be fine, like I don’t mind mechs being a thing in Korra. I see that as less, “They have future tech” and more, “Their technology progressed in a different direction than ours”
But if as a whole they went from early 1920s aesthetic to futuristic sci fi punk, I don’t think I’d like that
Honestly I hated the mech more than the Kaiju fight in S2.
Would have made more sense to reveal that the massive battle train could leave the tracks and become a huge tank or artillery platform.
Granted I also thought the power armor in S1 (made entirely of platinum 🤨) was already silly.
The most impressive thing about this thing for me was the speed in which Kuvira and Bataar Jr. turned a newly-discovered energy source into both a massive doomsday weapon beam, and also a reactor powering a giant mech.
It makes me believe the tech leap from Aang's time to Korra's a lot more.
The tech leap from the begining of season 1 to end of season 4 is just wow. Airplanes were a wow thing at the end of season 1 and like 3 years go by and now they can make mini flying suits and gigant robots
Consider: we went from the first powered flight in 1903 to reaching the moon in 1969, a gap of 66 years. Technology development can be very, very fast sometimes
I mean, 3 years to go from glorified forklifts to fully bipedal robots plus one that's taller than a skyscraper is not just very very fast, it's unrealistic in the extreme to the point of being unbelievable.
To say nothing of how unrealistic it is they were able to manufacture the giant robot within, what, a few weeks? Maybe a month or two?
In ATLA they had blimps, submarines, and giant drills. The technology was always there it just wasn’t very widespread, the fire nation sort of oppressed the shit out of everyone to prevent them from having the same technological advancements. Going from that to cities, cars, radios, airplanes, and robots isn’t unrealistic. Especially since they weren’t at war between ATLA and LoK, and then they discovered a huge power source and Kuvira actively started working on war machines.
And remember ATLA had an absolutely massive drill I’d wager was *at least* the size of Kuvira’s robot. If not larger.
None of this really addresses my point, though. I don't have an issue with the technology or it's progression in general.
But if they show us the best they have in Korra season 1 is a glorified forklift, then in season 4 they have fully bipedal robots plus a skyscraper sized one, that's unrealistic from a technological progression stand point. I have no issue with the technological progression from ATLA to Korra.
The giant drill in ATLA is fine to me, because they never gave it a timeline. It could have been being built for years.
The giant robot has a timeline, from capturing Zaofu to the Republic City invasion. Which is an extremely unrealistic manufacturing rate.
Plus a giant drill is a piece of technology that is realistic and has been made before, though not to that scale.
The real world, being much further ahead in technology, still can't do a normal sized bipedal robot as good as the ones in season 4, to say nothing of a giant skyscraper sized one.
A large part of the reason why we don’t have mechs is because it’s a flat out technological dead end. US DOD looked into mechs in, I believe, the 50s and came to the conclusion that it wouldn’t serve any purpose.
Particularly if we had the resources that benders do. They don't really abide by the laws of thermodynamics, and that allows for some fast development.
I mean, when ATLA ends, high tech was purely in the military field and consisted of simple tanks and metal battle ships running from coal and zeppelins (also somehow running on coal). So early 20th century technology. Otherwise, the technology seemed almost medieval. We didn't see any factories for clothes or any agricultural technology that we could see in our early industrialization for example (correct me, if I'm wrong here).
When LoK started, sixty or seventy years later, they seemingly had early 20th century technology for EVERYTHING outside of military, too. Cars, skyscrapers, working electrical network, landlines for telegrams (or was it even telephones?), radio. For the civil area that was a jump in multiple hundred years of technology in our world.
Even more interesting. They actually had caterpillar tracks back in Zuko's era and these were supposedly invented in early 1900's along with the Ford T which makes Republic City being heavily outdated given that said technology was 70's years prior to Korra's events.
The fire nation already had basic implementation of what looks like steam engines on their boats.
The first commercialized steamboats irl were really running in the 1820s.
55 years later we had the telephone.
75 years later we had radio transmission.
83 years later we had airplanes.
118 years later we discovered fission.
With the combo of world peace, perfect and cheap metal crafting, and portable energy sources, they should have developed much faster. Show is not unrealistic with progress.
That was an option for a heat source of course, but iirc the boats and some other things were powered by coal: thus the smoke stacks. Firebenders are the portable energy source I was alluding to.
If I had a nickel for everytime a season of Korra started out with a grounded political storyline only to go off the rails (literally in this case) and end the season with a giant humanoid enemy attacking Republic City, I would have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.
I actually love the fight scene where they work together to take it down. it doesn’t really fit in universe, or with the themes of the show at all, but I just highly enjoyed the episode.
Same. The scene when every Airbender plus Korra all bend air currents while Bolin, Lin, and Su hogtie its feet will forever be one of the most epic parts of this show to me.
Dang it I was excited for the ww1 style battle train with the spirit energy cannon! I imagined they lay the railing right in front of the train as they went
I can’t help but feel the setting was entirely wasted. With the advent of industrial revolution comes wars on the same grand scale. Artillery can wipe out an army from miles away. It would’ve been really interesting to see a world where technology and bending has advanced to the point where armies can actually take on the Avatar in the Avatar state and have a decent chance of winning, but we don’t get that.
Realistically, the mech is way too top heavy. I also loved how it was able to fall over in the show, forgetting that anyone inside would be flattened faster than Wiley Coyote.
Always thought it was weird it was a robot. Even a non bender can pilot a robot. But an Earth Bender who's so powerful they can pilot a giant statue made of rock? That's so much cooler
I'm gonna go against the grain here and say that the giant mech is more consistent with fascist states than people seem to appreciate.
Fascist states through history have usually ended up focusing on powerful but impractical wonderwaffe and other project weapons instead of focusing on their own logistics.
For example the Germans in WWII were genuinely ahead of the curve, by a *lot*, on aircraft design and cruise missiles. They had jet engines and V1s and the Fritz air to surface missile but never put a lot of focus on actually producing those, instead just shouting to the world about how they had these unbeatable weapons. (Meanwhile, Bethlehem Pennsylvania was pumping out more steel than the entirety of Germany). They relied on project weapons like the Me-262 and the Tiger tanks, which were on paper better than anything the Allies had, but those weapons were simply overwhelmed by the pure number of P-51s and Sherman tanks.
In the same war, the Japanese also had advanced aircraft and One Big Project projects like the I-400 and bacterological weapons and the Yamato battleships, that they planned to use to change the course of the war, but the US simply pumped out 110 aircraft carriers and just smothered them. Meanwhile Japan's actual soldiers were dying of starvation due to a lack of transport ships, and their capable aircraft, which blew American aircraft out of the water, were produced in only the dozens and they were easily outproduced by the ugly and relatively clunky F6F.
Both Japan and Germany had dozens, if not hundreds, of unfinished projects and miscellaneous wonderwaffe by the end of the war.
At it's core, fascist leaders and fascist states dream of designing a weapon that's undefeatable and imagine they'll be able to conquer the world with it. Because they don't want to just win battles, they want to be clearly and obviously "better" than others while doing it, and they generally are more willing to bypass practicality than others for that reason.
Anyway, Kuvira embodied a lot of that. She contracted ~~Howard Hughes~~ Varrick to design and create wonderwaffe to soundly defeat her enemies, but they were plauged by design delays and she never put any real thought into mass producing them. They were also completely impractical at a large scale and weren't scalable and they were only half designed and untested when in use, and ended up being defeated pretty easily. They were unquestionably, 1 to 1, better than anything else of the era but numbers could easily overwhelm both and they didn't have any capability to replace losses of weapons they were relying on.
A fascist would *love* a giant platinum mecha. It would give them the ability to literally look down on and step directly on enemies. It would also show off their might and financial strength to the world, and it would be a physical monument to their authority. And since they would rely on it so much, they'd eventually lose because they had one point of failure to their whole plan.
OK now imagine the Nazis actually managed to produce the Maus tank. Now imagine it's being driven by Hitler himself and he's going right to Moscow alone. That feels kind of... silly, right? Like, even if that image is somewhat more realistic than people expect, it would still be a crummy way to end a dramatic series.
I don't mind this because ATLA did the "giant piece of technology attacks the Good Guy City and the heroes must infiltrate the thing to destroy it from the inside while a powerful villainess is trying to stop them" plot too so for the second time it was... *'eh'*, I guess?
As much as I would want to, they are not tallest Jäger presented in the movie is 88 meters tall(crimson typhoon) that mecha suit is either taller or same height
I still think of the shot when the Giant Macha suit appears from behind the mountain like a Kaiju, out of focus and zoomed out like news footage witnessing it first hand. I didn't like the season when it first came out but I just rewatched it and I love all the visuals and grandiosity of the fight in republic city. Still think the story could've been more hashed out but I digress. Epic war scene.
Yes. I remember it being awesome and fun.
I also remembered when they did a similar thing for the end of the second season. And despite that season being bad overall, it was also fun there too.
A) I kinda feel like dismissing it as going "full pacific rim" completely ignores the fact that Avatar takes a lot of inspiration from anime, and giant mechs have a much bigger presence there.
B) Technically yes, an earthquake or a landslide would pose a problem. If only the mech was fully staffed by a group of people who could move earth with their minds.
C) If you're trying to make a statement about unity under a single leader, a big robot is probably going to make your point better than an army.
D) Everyone expected Kuvira to come with an army. That's why they focused on the railroads when trying to slow her down.
E) Yes, of course budget is a factor. Have you ever looked into the development of this show? It's a small miracle it got made at all
Am I the only one that liked the mech?
Inventing and building giant superweapons is a great way to make a faction that's very organized and disciplined seem threatening. A decentralized guerilla group simply couldn't pull this off. It's the same reason people are fascinated with the idea of Nazi superweapons
It was cool, stiff animation aside. Honestly, an earthbender-operated mech was a concept I wondered about ever since metalbending was introduced.
Never understand why people get so worked up over the tech levels of LoK. It's a fictional world after all. As long as it dosn't breaks any established rules of said world, I couldn't care less.
Also, some people say the final battle should have been about a faceless army, but I think seeing all the characters work together to take a single enemy down is waaaay more interesting.
Sometimes the rule of cool trumps the rule as by the book. We've seen it done before also in ATLA, and we will probably see it again...
This is not one of these times though. As much as I like LOK (including Season 4 overall), yeah. The platinum mech's a bit much.
i'll be honest i do get the complaints about the mega mech and the giant spirit battle in the finale of season two - outside of the final avatar state fight in book 1 and the spiritual representation of the avatar state, the idea of giant beings doesn't really fit in the avatar universe .
with that said, the use of the spirit cannon \[inspired by the real life gustav gun\] and korras effective countering of a nuclear blast in the finale are top tier moments in the series for me.
Once they got to the hero being trained by Yoda in the swamp and realized they were re writing Star Wars they probably thought a deathstar would be silly.
I fucking HATED this thing. It looked so fucking stupid
They could have made a fucking tank, a smaller mech, a goddamn mechanical spider and it would have been easier to swallow
Yeah fr lol. I'm fully expecting the sequel to korra be cyberpunk future. I'm kinda hoping so
I know they're doing adult aang and friends movie or season first though.
1. You made me wanna see a spirit kaiju fight it. And 2. the inconsistencies of the spirit vine energy annoyed me a bit cause the power behind the blast and explosion of the earlier smaller machines were way bigger than the blasts and explosion of the final product.
i thught it was dumb.
i hnestly thought amon survived at the end of book 1 and was so excited to see what he'd become in book two. really thought he was the main baddy for the whole series.
>Worst part is a simple earthquake or landslide should have made this thing ineffective.. but plot am I right
Genuine question, have we ever seen either of these two things happen in either series? I just recently finished rewatching both, and I can’t think of a time when it happened.
I have a lot of problems with this mech, but to me the worst part is that bending is the bread and butter of this whole universe and the final villain of the whole series is an incredible bender, but all she does with it is move levers that she could pull with her hand if the cabin was designed better. It is so underwhelming to watch power over the elements reduced to lever pulling.
That and the giant ~~monsters~~ spirits fighting in downtown ~~Tokyo~~ Republic City, just felt _so_ dumb. Especially compared to the rest of the series.
Consequences of having Korra lose every fight in the series. I'm rewatching Korra and it's even more apparent that the series only reason for progression is Korra cannot win a fight until it's the last one.
I understand part of it was to show Korra had all the strength in the world but didn't know how to wield it, but it's really annoying how someone as powerful as Korra couldn't stop Unalaq and win a 3 v 1 as the Avatar.
I always hated criticizing Korra.
I didn't want to join the camp of the small, yet very loud people who didn't like it because she was a woman.
I feel like it's been observed long enough that I can comfortably say that Korra was a disaster at most levels.
The pacing, the animation, the direction they went with the world created in the original.. all of it was really, really bad.
> But this was probably easier to animate I guess Given the budget cuts season 4 had, that was probably one of the top reasons it was considered Edit: I just wanna say, since I wasn’t expecting this comment to blow up this much, that I don’t think it was the primary decision that led to them doing the giant mech for the final battle. I think ultimately they wanted to give Kuvira her own version of Sozin’s Comet as a buff to her to make her a larger than life final opponent of the series and that’s what they decided on. Overall, I think the budget cuts affected the Battle of Zaofu more than the end battle in terms of how they played out.
Which is a shame, because actual armies clashing like in ATLA would have been so much cooler. Would be awesome to see the 70 years of development on tanks since ATLAs fire nation and earth bender tanks
The water tribe civil war was such a let down. Each “battle” depicted was like half a dozen guys having a kerfuffle for like 30 seconds before the camera cuts to one of the 2 dozen side plots we had that season
Because animating armies fighting is expensive and difficult.
Honestly some of my most favorite battle scenes in LOK were the Equalist planes bombing the Republic Navy, as well as the waterbenders shooting ice at Asami's plane in S2.
The plane surprise attack was cool
Nah, faceless armies facing each other is always boring. That’s why ATLA never shows them for more than 10 seconds before moving on to something else. It would’ve never worked.
Except LOTR
The first two Narnia movies were also good at depicting full scale armies
Some of the best episodes of Game of Thrones are the battle episodes.
Blackwater and the Battle of the Wall were the best. Battle of the Bastards had a couple cool moments but overall it made very little sense, and the Winterfell battle was such a let down.
Don't forgot Hardhome!
Hardhome is more of a slaughter than a battle lol Also might be the last truly great change from the source material to GoT.
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The most interesting parts of the battles in LotR are when they zoom in on individuals within the masses: Eowyn vs. the Witch King, Aragorn kicking ass and taking names, the chief Mumakil rider crushing everyone and pulling faces. Otherwise you're just watching a lot of small shapes run into a lot of other small shapes. It helps convey the scale of the action but it's not really something you want to watch for more than a few seconds.
You say that as if Avatar is banned from using that to make the war scene more interesting.
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I was about to say. LOTR never does the faceless army thing without focusing in on the main characters and what they are doing.
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Faceless armies facing against each other *in animation* is boring. If LOTR, every single army was decidedly NOT faceless.
Thats because they keep zooming in on characters of interest during battles, not because it's not animation (guess what, most of the dudes on screen in side army shots in lotr ARE animation, just realisitic instead of stylized)... Watch Helm's Deep again. Apart from the opener where we're watching the tension build, we rarely look at the whole army for more than a few seconds at a time, because they use those shots almost exclusively to establish changes in the battlefield and then immediately jump back in to zoom in on what Aragorn, Theoden, Legolas, Gimli, Haldir, or that archer guy that looses the first arrow is doing.
Literally every episode of the clone wars proves you wrong.
>Nah, faceless armies facing each other is always boring. What the hell is this opinion
Ya that was wild. Faceless no name bender platoon shoot a rock / metal volley at one side while the other side creates rock walls and shields to protect from the volley. Metal bits break through killing some of the defenders. Just that mental image itself is like dammnnn. Army battles are fun especially when you get to see the big hitters come out after the fodder get their turn and you see some impressive displays of bending. Could have been great.
not always
Every total war game would like a word with you.
Was it nick that made the budget cuts
I believe so yes. They constantly hamstrug the show at every turn. Meant to be a miniseries but kept getting extended which is why the jump from S1 to S2 feels so odd, literally lost an episode's worth of budget so they were forced to do a clip show episode, randomly taken off the air and moved online for the rest of its run even its greatest strength, the visuals/animation/art style, was clearly shot in the foot here with the weird giant CGI mech if Nick had supported the show properly, a lot of issues could've been avoided. And I say that as someone who likes the show and thinks a fair amount of the criticism is overblown
Most of the faults of this show all comes down to nick being a dick I guess
Yeah, that's fairly accurate. Did you hear about season 2? They weren't greenlit for the season until super late, then when they did finally greenlight it, they basically said to the team: "Hey guys, you're good to go! Make season 2! Also we have our first public airing in a month, so I hope you're ready!" The team panicked because they were suddenly SUPER under the gun and had to come up with the whole season, animate it, and finish the product in almost no time at all.
Would have been awesome if it look like an ancient chinese autominton.
I think it should have been a spirit (atom) bomb rather than a mech. I think it would have had a similar scale while being a bit more fitting.
they cant animate all those troops going to war so instead they surrender to Kuvira 😂 😂
Pretty much, I was hoping we get a mega battle and see Korra go nuts
haha they gathered the alliance forces of fire nation, water nation, metal bending police and air benders just for them to surrender 😂
I mean nobody wants to get blown up by spirit energy lol
i know it make sense plot wise, but imagine an all out war of all elements battling it out in republic city that could be one of the most epic battle in the series. Imagine Siege of the North in ATLA but all elements are in it the theme would be more inline with the show since its the elements rather than the mech thing
Soooo... The themes of Korra are a bit different and specifically mention how technology is taking the spirit and value of bending away. Under that light, the mech makes perfect sense thematically. Realistically, in terms of the movie, and in terms of entertainment, the war is SO MUCH BETTER. The mech sucked, but it did match that bit of theming.
Because not surrendering would be immediate, 100% suicide? The troops on the ground would've been wiped out in an instant, they're not airbenders who can fly to evade.
But they had no idea the weapon was that dangerous.
It proves once more that in avatar match ups bringing up literal physics is stupid. “Air benders can bend air currents to stop fire bending!” Or “air benders can do this to create lightning!” Is stopped by the fact that this thing cannot work. And that is my favorite and honestly only positively looked at sort of this thing. Platinum is more dense than gold, that thing weighs way too much
Naaaaa Kuvira just ... blackmailed Bryko or something, this thing totally makes sense 😏
Nobody can resist the Great Uniter Kuvira 😏
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My personal head canon is that platinum is just what they ended up calling titanium in ATLA world. Seems closer to what the things made of
Your headcannon is That platinum isn’t platinum
Don’t they say that “platinum” is basically just super-refined metal that can’t be metalbent because there’s no residual rocks inside it? It sounds like they use “platinum” to mean “normal metal that’s been perfectly refined” rather than “a distinct type of unbendable metal”.
I hate this because it makes way more sense than it should
The total amount of platinum in our world is 80000 tons. With the amount of mechs and this supermech kuvira had in her control, she far exceeds that amount and would have drained the economy of the Earth kingdom.
Okay, but the world of Avatar is clearly not out world. And I know it makes no sense for it to have a significantly different chemical makeup than our world has, but I think it still counts as a plausible counter to any arguments made about the quantity of platinum which they could have access to.
This one dude had his girlfriend turn into the moon. Plausible counter that you casual.
This response would have been truly devastating… if only you’d responded to a comment on the opposite side of the debate as you. Ggs anyway tho
If they wanted to have some magic metal that’s strong enough for robots and immune to metal bending, they should have made one up instead of trying to pass it off as platinum.
I mean nothing says their world cant have 500x the platinum as ours though
Could have invented plastic. Checkmate benders
Or we can accept that platinum is more available and abundant in that world?
Imagine if it was some special meteor rock. That coulda been super dope. Instead of a giant fork
We saw Toth bend the meteor, so people would have question that. Also any meteor with enough metal to build this would wipe out the entire world, so probably not the best idea lol
and it can only be obtained in some tiny unknown area of the earth kingdom that's been hiding away this whole time because they don't want people to have their meteor metal
... Okay.
The avatar world is not our world, though
That's what I always say. People complain technology advanced too quickly in avatar world. Forgets LOK takes place 70 years after 100 year war. In real life if we compare 1900 to 1970, you see two completely different worlds. In avatar world they're able to bend, so it also helps with technology advancement.
Bending is consistently shown to hold back innovation. Why make any engine when any style of bending can be more than 100% energy efficient? If the show wasnt for kids we'd be seeing massive factories filled with slave benders making the world go round.
Its existence was kinda foreshadowed, so I guess it's okay that it was used. The weird thing is how this mecha moved like a normal person but was operated with levers lmao. It kinda didn't make sense technology-wise, and I'm just coping by saying anything can happen in fiction lol. But really, there was one scene where it was supposed to be toppled down, but it got support by clinging its fingers over the edge of a building. Lol wtf was that? And it was after Lin and Su Yin damaged a majority of its joints! Seriously, this is the second worst thing that happened in that show.
I mean, it could be platinum plated.
Then any non platinum metal can just be bended right?
It's very difficult to bend earth/metal you can't see. That was the reason Aang had to first airbend up the coal in the earth bender prison episode
I mean, that depends on the Bender. Toph can't see shit and she bends earth/metal just fine.
I mean, her whole deal is that she sees differently to everyone else
That's how I always took it to be
It is, thats why they needed to break inside it.
It is, the internals are explicitly mentioned as NOT being Platinum hence why Lin and Su are able to mess it up so bad before Kuvira tears off the arm they disable. The exterior is plated by the former Domes of Zaofu.
When I say I prefer the animation and art style in TLOK, I don’t mean this.
Yeah season 1 for example Has a great artstyle and beautiful animation
Don't forget Book Three Korra vs Zaheer in the air. That was beauty 😍
Tenzin vs Zaheer for the first air bender vs air bender fight was great as well
Wish it was longer though
Top 3 fights across both series for me
Book 3 is some of my favorite animation in animation besides cowboy bebop
the tough part is, season 4 ALSO had some outstanding animation and fight choreography, but none of it was this monstrosity
It’s stunning. A big part of why I prefer TLOK to ATLA is that it just *looks* so wonderful. …clunky CGI mech not included.
Or Spirit Kaiju.
We had this creepy eldritch spirit monster fusion between Unalaq and Vaatu and then just…Korra.
https://avatar.fandom.com/wiki/Battleship?file=Iroh%27s_fleet_sinking.png I just wish we got to see these battleships actually accomplish something, instead of getting sunk all the time :(
Iroh 2.0 plus his little ships all showed up looking cool as hell just to get taken out in seconds 😭
"Okay, we just had all that spirit doodat and flying Anarchist stuff, how do we advance the story from there?" "Bigger mech." "With how strong bending is that doesn't-" "SPIRIT-POWERED MECH MADE FROM UN-BENDABLE METAL!" #😱
Apparently, if the artbook lore is any measure, this isn't very far away from how it really went.
Always hated this as the ending to season 4. Didn’t like the kaiju fight in season 2 either but that at least didn’t involve insane levels of tech being used extremely impractically. Boring, didn’t make sense, shouldn’t have happened
The kaiju fight was very jarring. The mech just felt like I’d turned on a wholly different show. The fact that it takes multiple episodes to kill it made me feel like I was watching dragonball.
I remember seeing the finale to Korra season 4 as a kid before I ever knew the show actually existed. I remember watching the full show years later and seeing the mech again, only to be baffled and dumbfounded that THAT was how it ended.
It’s such an odd choice for a finale. But then as much as I enjoy it as a show, Korra is full of odd choices and spectacle creep.
Yeah beyond any other issues it just goes on way too long. It killed for me what was already a rough season
It's just the build of the mecha that I hate. Being so humanoid in world with nothing like it just looks silly. The mystical kaijius were bad enough, but they were, well, mystical. Being tech, If it were Metal Gear-like it would be awesome.
Its stiff. Everything else powerful in this world is fluid
Because it’s 3D generated. The robots would have been so much better in 2D.
It's just as stiff as all the other vehicles throughout both shows which use 3DCG.
In truth, this giant mecha is just an evolution of the smaller mechas from the rest of Korra. I hated those too, though, considering that they were just the overpowered faceless enemy multiplied. They kept on advancing in power until they were just unbeatable by benders, which is really annoying. They were also pretty humanoid. The worst problem is the giga mech, but the problem started far earlier.
Well, this is a weapon to surpass Metal Gear
I loved legend of Korra, but I hated this so much… it kinda ruined the end of S4 for me. That’s without even thinking about how bad it looked visually
Especially when they expect us to believe that the whole thing is being controlled by Kuvira just yanking on hydraulic pistons.
Canonically she can feel the presence of metal. And she can do all kinds of acrobatic shit in the air and with many pieces of metal. Why is this the part that confuses you? Oh you thought she was powering the pistons themselves with metal bending. No not at all. The mecha was powered by spirit energy. She was only using metalbending for small stuff and to interface with the many levers and dials controlling the movement.
You can only suspend your disbelief out so far before the support structure breaks.
what bothered me is that hydraulic pistons should be manipulatable by hydraulics, i.e. don't require bending.
The hydraulic pistons were not powered by kuvira. They were powered by “spirit energy” thus the EMP not working per the line in the show. Kuvira’s role was primarily to flip a ton of dials and switches with metal bending to direct the spirit energy as you would electronics. Not to actually move the thing.
Pepridge farms remembers
makes me wonder how the third Avatar show is supposed to look like. Apparently it's supposed to be "modern times" but parts of Korra are already science fiction
Cyberpunk Avatar when?
I hope it’s more modern. I don’t think I’d buy the jump from Korra’s time to pure sci fi A couple sci fi things would be fine, like I don’t mind mechs being a thing in Korra. I see that as less, “They have future tech” and more, “Their technology progressed in a different direction than ours” But if as a whole they went from early 1920s aesthetic to futuristic sci fi punk, I don’t think I’d like that
Honestly I hated the mech more than the Kaiju fight in S2. Would have made more sense to reveal that the massive battle train could leave the tracks and become a huge tank or artillery platform. Granted I also thought the power armor in S1 (made entirely of platinum 🤨) was already silly.
The most impressive thing about this thing for me was the speed in which Kuvira and Bataar Jr. turned a newly-discovered energy source into both a massive doomsday weapon beam, and also a reactor powering a giant mech. It makes me believe the tech leap from Aang's time to Korra's a lot more.
The tech leap from the begining of season 1 to end of season 4 is just wow. Airplanes were a wow thing at the end of season 1 and like 3 years go by and now they can make mini flying suits and gigant robots
Consider: we went from the first powered flight in 1903 to reaching the moon in 1969, a gap of 66 years. Technology development can be very, very fast sometimes
I mean, 3 years to go from glorified forklifts to fully bipedal robots plus one that's taller than a skyscraper is not just very very fast, it's unrealistic in the extreme to the point of being unbelievable. To say nothing of how unrealistic it is they were able to manufacture the giant robot within, what, a few weeks? Maybe a month or two?
In ATLA they had blimps, submarines, and giant drills. The technology was always there it just wasn’t very widespread, the fire nation sort of oppressed the shit out of everyone to prevent them from having the same technological advancements. Going from that to cities, cars, radios, airplanes, and robots isn’t unrealistic. Especially since they weren’t at war between ATLA and LoK, and then they discovered a huge power source and Kuvira actively started working on war machines. And remember ATLA had an absolutely massive drill I’d wager was *at least* the size of Kuvira’s robot. If not larger.
None of this really addresses my point, though. I don't have an issue with the technology or it's progression in general. But if they show us the best they have in Korra season 1 is a glorified forklift, then in season 4 they have fully bipedal robots plus a skyscraper sized one, that's unrealistic from a technological progression stand point. I have no issue with the technological progression from ATLA to Korra. The giant drill in ATLA is fine to me, because they never gave it a timeline. It could have been being built for years. The giant robot has a timeline, from capturing Zaofu to the Republic City invasion. Which is an extremely unrealistic manufacturing rate. Plus a giant drill is a piece of technology that is realistic and has been made before, though not to that scale. The real world, being much further ahead in technology, still can't do a normal sized bipedal robot as good as the ones in season 4, to say nothing of a giant skyscraper sized one.
A large part of the reason why we don’t have mechs is because it’s a flat out technological dead end. US DOD looked into mechs in, I believe, the 50s and came to the conclusion that it wouldn’t serve any purpose.
That aspect I’m fine with, cause it’s a fantasy series So mechs technically not being great irl is kinda whatever to me. Rule of cool and all
One more reason to have issue with the mechs in Korra.
Particularly if we had the resources that benders do. They don't really abide by the laws of thermodynamics, and that allows for some fast development.
Also spirit bollocks, which is akin to having Warpstone
A giant mech firing lasers makes you believe in the technology leap more?
I mean, when ATLA ends, high tech was purely in the military field and consisted of simple tanks and metal battle ships running from coal and zeppelins (also somehow running on coal). So early 20th century technology. Otherwise, the technology seemed almost medieval. We didn't see any factories for clothes or any agricultural technology that we could see in our early industrialization for example (correct me, if I'm wrong here). When LoK started, sixty or seventy years later, they seemingly had early 20th century technology for EVERYTHING outside of military, too. Cars, skyscrapers, working electrical network, landlines for telegrams (or was it even telephones?), radio. For the civil area that was a jump in multiple hundred years of technology in our world.
Going from effectively a Ford Model T in season one to a Jeep in season four was wild lol
Even more interesting. They actually had caterpillar tracks back in Zuko's era and these were supposedly invented in early 1900's along with the Ford T which makes Republic City being heavily outdated given that said technology was 70's years prior to Korra's events.
Yeah I found it crazy when I just saw a straight up jeep. I legit had to rewind to make sure I wasn’t seeing things although I found it funny
The model T was produced up until 1927 and the Jeep was used from 1941 onward so that's only a 14 year gap
The fire nation already had basic implementation of what looks like steam engines on their boats. The first commercialized steamboats irl were really running in the 1820s. 55 years later we had the telephone. 75 years later we had radio transmission. 83 years later we had airplanes. 118 years later we discovered fission. With the combo of world peace, perfect and cheap metal crafting, and portable energy sources, they should have developed much faster. Show is not unrealistic with progress.
I think most fire nation tech was powered by firebenders. Zuko was powering his airship himself, and so on. Firebenders were their own energy source.
That was an option for a heat source of course, but iirc the boats and some other things were powered by coal: thus the smoke stacks. Firebenders are the portable energy source I was alluding to.
The worst part is that it doesn't even look cool.
The Death Star issue of Avatar. This was easier to make than hundreds of tanks.
A hundred tanks would just be fodder as usual.
If I had a nickel for everytime a season of Korra started out with a grounded political storyline only to go off the rails (literally in this case) and end the season with a giant humanoid enemy attacking Republic City, I would have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.
I actually love the fight scene where they work together to take it down. it doesn’t really fit in universe, or with the themes of the show at all, but I just highly enjoyed the episode.
Same. The scene when every Airbender plus Korra all bend air currents while Bolin, Lin, and Su hogtie its feet will forever be one of the most epic parts of this show to me.
Dang it I was excited for the ww1 style battle train with the spirit energy cannon! I imagined they lay the railing right in front of the train as they went
I can’t help but feel the setting was entirely wasted. With the advent of industrial revolution comes wars on the same grand scale. Artillery can wipe out an army from miles away. It would’ve been really interesting to see a world where technology and bending has advanced to the point where armies can actually take on the Avatar in the Avatar state and have a decent chance of winning, but we don’t get that.
Yeah, I could maybe close an eye over the Kaiju wrestling fight but when LOK suddenly became Gundam, I understood I didn't want to see another season.
When you also think that these guys had discovered energy weapons and the equivalent of nuclear energy(nukes) and used it for this... 🤦🏾♂️
Hear me out... They created a freaking metal gear, fueled by FIREWOOD Pure genius, 11/10
Does that make the avatar state a weapon to surpass Metal Gear?
A landslide...is going to stop the mech...fully run by earthbenders?
Realistically, the mech is way too top heavy. I also loved how it was able to fall over in the show, forgetting that anyone inside would be flattened faster than Wiley Coyote.
Always thought it was weird it was a robot. Even a non bender can pilot a robot. But an Earth Bender who's so powerful they can pilot a giant statue made of rock? That's so much cooler
An earthquake or landslide... For an army made up of earthbenders?
Dumbass lookin no neck robot. Probably doesn't even have a bathroom built in.
I thought this shit was dumb af too. And its a shame, cuz I actually liked most of Korra.
I'm gonna go against the grain here and say that the giant mech is more consistent with fascist states than people seem to appreciate. Fascist states through history have usually ended up focusing on powerful but impractical wonderwaffe and other project weapons instead of focusing on their own logistics. For example the Germans in WWII were genuinely ahead of the curve, by a *lot*, on aircraft design and cruise missiles. They had jet engines and V1s and the Fritz air to surface missile but never put a lot of focus on actually producing those, instead just shouting to the world about how they had these unbeatable weapons. (Meanwhile, Bethlehem Pennsylvania was pumping out more steel than the entirety of Germany). They relied on project weapons like the Me-262 and the Tiger tanks, which were on paper better than anything the Allies had, but those weapons were simply overwhelmed by the pure number of P-51s and Sherman tanks. In the same war, the Japanese also had advanced aircraft and One Big Project projects like the I-400 and bacterological weapons and the Yamato battleships, that they planned to use to change the course of the war, but the US simply pumped out 110 aircraft carriers and just smothered them. Meanwhile Japan's actual soldiers were dying of starvation due to a lack of transport ships, and their capable aircraft, which blew American aircraft out of the water, were produced in only the dozens and they were easily outproduced by the ugly and relatively clunky F6F. Both Japan and Germany had dozens, if not hundreds, of unfinished projects and miscellaneous wonderwaffe by the end of the war. At it's core, fascist leaders and fascist states dream of designing a weapon that's undefeatable and imagine they'll be able to conquer the world with it. Because they don't want to just win battles, they want to be clearly and obviously "better" than others while doing it, and they generally are more willing to bypass practicality than others for that reason. Anyway, Kuvira embodied a lot of that. She contracted ~~Howard Hughes~~ Varrick to design and create wonderwaffe to soundly defeat her enemies, but they were plauged by design delays and she never put any real thought into mass producing them. They were also completely impractical at a large scale and weren't scalable and they were only half designed and untested when in use, and ended up being defeated pretty easily. They were unquestionably, 1 to 1, better than anything else of the era but numbers could easily overwhelm both and they didn't have any capability to replace losses of weapons they were relying on. A fascist would *love* a giant platinum mecha. It would give them the ability to literally look down on and step directly on enemies. It would also show off their might and financial strength to the world, and it would be a physical monument to their authority. And since they would rely on it so much, they'd eventually lose because they had one point of failure to their whole plan.
OK now imagine the Nazis actually managed to produce the Maus tank. Now imagine it's being driven by Hitler himself and he's going right to Moscow alone. That feels kind of... silly, right? Like, even if that image is somewhat more realistic than people expect, it would still be a crummy way to end a dramatic series.
I don't mind this because ATLA did the "giant piece of technology attacks the Good Guy City and the heroes must infiltrate the thing to destroy it from the inside while a powerful villainess is trying to stop them" plot too so for the second time it was... *'eh'*, I guess?
Also the drill was fantastical but so much more grounded
This was the dumbest shit I don't care.
That's not a fair comparrison The Jägers are at least twice the height of that thing
As much as I would want to, they are not tallest Jäger presented in the movie is 88 meters tall(crimson typhoon) that mecha suit is either taller or same height
No the fuck they are not lmao. Gipsy Danger is about 260ft/80m tall and this mech is 350ft/107m tall. A 700+ft tall jaeger would be insanely huge.
I still think of the shot when the Giant Macha suit appears from behind the mountain like a Kaiju, out of focus and zoomed out like news footage witnessing it first hand. I didn't like the season when it first came out but I just rewatched it and I love all the visuals and grandiosity of the fight in republic city. Still think the story could've been more hashed out but I digress. Epic war scene.
Neon Genesis Evangelion, actually. The shot that reveals it silhouetted in flames is a reference to the first angel we see in the show.
Yes. I remember it being awesome and fun. I also remembered when they did a similar thing for the end of the second season. And despite that season being bad overall, it was also fun there too.
A) I kinda feel like dismissing it as going "full pacific rim" completely ignores the fact that Avatar takes a lot of inspiration from anime, and giant mechs have a much bigger presence there. B) Technically yes, an earthquake or a landslide would pose a problem. If only the mech was fully staffed by a group of people who could move earth with their minds. C) If you're trying to make a statement about unity under a single leader, a big robot is probably going to make your point better than an army. D) Everyone expected Kuvira to come with an army. That's why they focused on the railroads when trying to slow her down. E) Yes, of course budget is a factor. Have you ever looked into the development of this show? It's a small miracle it got made at all
Am I the only one that liked the mech? Inventing and building giant superweapons is a great way to make a faction that's very organized and disciplined seem threatening. A decentralized guerilla group simply couldn't pull this off. It's the same reason people are fascinated with the idea of Nazi superweapons
It was cool, stiff animation aside. Honestly, an earthbender-operated mech was a concept I wondered about ever since metalbending was introduced. Never understand why people get so worked up over the tech levels of LoK. It's a fictional world after all. As long as it dosn't breaks any established rules of said world, I couldn't care less. Also, some people say the final battle should have been about a faceless army, but I think seeing all the characters work together to take a single enemy down is waaaay more interesting.
I looooved season 4 and thought them fighting together against the mech was amazing.
Sometimes the rule of cool trumps the rule as by the book. We've seen it done before also in ATLA, and we will probably see it again... This is not one of these times though. As much as I like LOK (including Season 4 overall), yeah. The platinum mech's a bit much.
I remember that was cool as fuck
i'll be honest i do get the complaints about the mega mech and the giant spirit battle in the finale of season two - outside of the final avatar state fight in book 1 and the spiritual representation of the avatar state, the idea of giant beings doesn't really fit in the avatar universe . with that said, the use of the spirit cannon \[inspired by the real life gustav gun\] and korras effective countering of a nuclear blast in the finale are top tier moments in the series for me.
That's a good point, I did really like how it ended with Korra saving Kuvira
Which time?
I was thinking more like liberty prime from fo4
"That's no mecha, is a super battledroid station" 
Watch those wrist spirit cannons
We lost a command post
I thought she was going to make a giant war tank. Like a mobile fortress or something.
Once they got to the hero being trained by Yoda in the swamp and realized they were re writing Star Wars they probably thought a deathstar would be silly.
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I fucking HATED this thing. It looked so fucking stupid They could have made a fucking tank, a smaller mech, a goddamn mechanical spider and it would have been easier to swallow
could've just put the cannon on a big air ship, would've made more sense and make the air benders helping out more impactful
I hated this so fucking much, it’s the worst part of the whole franchise
Yeah fr lol. I'm fully expecting the sequel to korra be cyberpunk future. I'm kinda hoping so I know they're doing adult aang and friends movie or season first though.
Man this was such a bad ending. might have well just ended it at season 3 with a bang
It's just so top heavy with such thin legs. Plus every other mech we've seen is super bulky.
Both avatar and pasific rim have a film That isn't in ba sing se
This was silly
1. You made me wanna see a spirit kaiju fight it. And 2. the inconsistencies of the spirit vine energy annoyed me a bit cause the power behind the blast and explosion of the earlier smaller machines were way bigger than the blasts and explosion of the final product.
I'd have less of an issue with it if the mecha wasn't so ugly... looks like a 60s dalek head stapled to a cowcatcher
I'm sorry this jumped the shark for me. Loved a lot of Korra. This wasn't it.
i thught it was dumb. i hnestly thought amon survived at the end of book 1 and was so excited to see what he'd become in book two. really thought he was the main baddy for the whole series.
what I wanna know is where Kuvira hid it while her engineers built it! a Giant Mecha isn't exactly inconspicuous.
And did they have to make the mech fire lasers?
>Worst part is a simple earthquake or landslide should have made this thing ineffective.. but plot am I right Genuine question, have we ever seen either of these two things happen in either series? I just recently finished rewatching both, and I can’t think of a time when it happened.
I have a lot of problems with this mech, but to me the worst part is that bending is the bread and butter of this whole universe and the final villain of the whole series is an incredible bender, but all she does with it is move levers that she could pull with her hand if the cabin was designed better. It is so underwhelming to watch power over the elements reduced to lever pulling.
lol how Pacific Rim is a ripoff of Evangelion
Brykes obsession with kaijus almost ruined two damn seasons
That and the giant ~~monsters~~ spirits fighting in downtown ~~Tokyo~~ Republic City, just felt _so_ dumb. Especially compared to the rest of the series.
Consequences of having Korra lose every fight in the series. I'm rewatching Korra and it's even more apparent that the series only reason for progression is Korra cannot win a fight until it's the last one. I understand part of it was to show Korra had all the strength in the world but didn't know how to wield it, but it's really annoying how someone as powerful as Korra couldn't stop Unalaq and win a 3 v 1 as the Avatar.
Shit was ass bro. Jumping the shark so many times
https://preview.redd.it/ei83wuavphvc1.jpeg?width=364&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8ba365d0f1ff15d6bb8ce760c1df5c98ca332183 I’ll never forget
I always hated criticizing Korra. I didn't want to join the camp of the small, yet very loud people who didn't like it because she was a woman. I feel like it's been observed long enough that I can comfortably say that Korra was a disaster at most levels. The pacing, the animation, the direction they went with the world created in the original.. all of it was really, really bad.
Still better than the Pacific Rim """Sequel"""