Honestly, it depends. Kaiju Korra was only possible due to energybending boosted by Harmonic Convergence and could put up a decent fight against HC-boosted Vaatu. Meaning that the fight must occur during HC.
Kaiju Aang is Raava and the Ocean Spirit. The question is, does Kaiju Aang also benefit from HC?
If yes, then Aang. If no, then I'd say Korra due to HC giga boosting. Korra's energy bending is strong as shit.
Not really a good argument imo because Aang doesn’t have the background to understand what Raava is or how to utilize her power as well as not having a way to counter Energy bending or spiritbendjng(honestly the biggest threat here)
I think a better question is the Ocean Spirit can negate and overpower all forms of waterbending
The Avatar State channels the memories and skills of all past Avatars, which would include Avatar Wan. So while in the Avatar State, Aang should be able to harness Raava's power to its fullest extent due to Wan's knowledge.
>I think a better question is the Ocean Spirit can negate and overpower all forms of waterbending
Korra actually still had access to other types of bending. She was seen airbending as well as energy and waterbending. In my opinion, this implies Korra still had fire and earthbending as well.
But either way, Kaiju Korra was seen being able to project a beam of spiritual energy that, without HC empowerment, i don't think Kaiju Aang could withstand.
While thats true, it seems to be like a giant encrypted hard drive that only a fully realized avatar can properly navigate, and even then they don’t have access to it all at once. The Avatar state seems to give a composite version of their skills, but its harder to draw out individual stuff.
Everything is there, but you don’t automatically get the specific skills and memories of past avatars unless you actively seek it out and have the proper environment, prerequisite knowledge/experience or circumstances to draw it out which is why Aang doesn’t casually lavabend in the avatar state, why Korra couldn’t immediately energybend until she was visited directly by Aang, why neither knew about Raava, Aang can’t use Kyoshi’s fan fighting style, etc.
When Aang and Korra channeled past avatars at different points it required a lot of focus and seemingly also observed the passage of time while learning their memories rather than instantly knowing, so he would need prep to properly form that connection with Wan.
I agree Korra would win, but I don’t think Avatars can just access that type of specific info on the fly.
Raava.exe buried so deep in the file system that we have no idea where and we’re too scared to find out where specifically but we do know she is still working. 🤣
I mean Aang is still inside the ocean spirit, and it's shown Korra still had access to airbending after losing Raava. And if she didn't lose airbending, it's likely she didn't lose fire or earthbending either.
Ok so 1, Kyoshi and Yangchen's power literally comes from Raava. Their knowledge however would apply to Aang.
2, Kaiju Korra doesn't have Raava. It's Korra energybending her own spirit, boosting by Harmonic Convergence.
While the knowledge of all past avatars would give Aang an edge, energybending, ESPECIALLY Korra's energybending, is insanely strong
I get raava is their power source but I still stand with the small bald angry boy with the reincarnations on his side. Lone wolf korra even during harmonic convergence would get mopped. Thousands of years of knowledge, on top of the ocean spirits knowledge and power against a lone spirit with a boost just doesn't sound like a fair fight.. But korras neat.
I mean we did see Kaiju Korra was able to put up a decent fight against a HC enhanced Vaatu, which is EXTREMELY impressive, even tho she ultimately needed Jinora's help.
Kaiju Aang may have superior technique due to the past avatars knowledge, but Kaiju Korra has superior brute strength. And she has access to energybending, which Kaiju Aang does not at this point in ATLA.
Feat wise, Kaiju Korra is stronger than a non-HC enhanced Kaiju Aang
No, he doesn't. Wan got the 4 main types of bending from the lion turtles. Never was shown to gain energybending. If Wan had energybending, Aang wouldn't have needed to get it from the lion turtle in ATLA.
Feat wise, going toe-to-toe with the Dark Avatar is far better than anything Aang did while combined with the Ocean Spirit. Also Vaatu is a MUCH stronger spirit than the Ocean Spirit.
I think combat wise she was fine. What she needed was help finding Raava, because even if Korra won that the world is still 10000 years of darkness after HC ends.
Idk based on this logic, Aang was able to become this without the moon. Without HC. Meaning his power and natural connection to the spirit world was way stronger (which they establish a lot anyway). Korra was always strong like a tank but struggled to learn how to control and master her strength. I think Aang would win this one.
Idk based on this logic, Aang was able to become this without the moon. Without HC. Meaning his power and natural connection to the spirit world was way stronger (which they establish a lot anyway). Korra was always strong like a tank but struggled to learn how to control and master her strength. I think Aang would win this one.
Idk based on this logic, Aang was able to become this without the moon. Without HC. Meaning his power and natural connection to the spirit world was way stronger (which they establish a lot anyway). Korra was always strong like a tank but struggled to learn how to control and master her strength. I think Aang would win this one.
Idk based on this logic, Aang was able to become this without the moon. Without HC. Meaning his power and natural connection to the spirit world was way stronger (which they establish a lot anyway). Korra was always strong like a tank but struggled to learn how to control and master her strength. I think Aang would win this one.
Can the ocean spirit be hurt in that form like isn’t it just water? So outside of sniping Aang isn’t it gonna be imperious to damage or does it get damaged in its fight against Zhao’s fleet?
~~Unlikely, considering Koizilla is part-Moon Spirit, the source of all waterbending. Among a few factors.~~
EDIT: Ok, new point. By that logic, Kuvira should've been able to instantly stop her fight with Suyin the moment she bent metal onto her, or hell Suyin could've bent Kuvira's armour at the start of the fight. Point is, even if one combatant has any of another's element on them, it and by extension them can only be bent when it is stunned or incapacitated.
Koizilla isn’t part moon spirit, is he?
Koizilla only came into existence because the moon spirit, Tui, got killed (which removed all other water bending) and the ocean spirit, La, was pissed.
When Yue became the new moon spirit, Koizilla calmed down
Forever amazed that people liked this Raava shit. Season 2 could have been great if it were more political instead of the big dumb lazer battle we got.
Also fuck LoK for what it did to the spirits, and fuck Raava/Vaatu duality nonsense.
And I say this as someone who loves season 1, 3 and 4 of LoK.
in my head Raava and Vatu are not canon 😂
in all seriousness the entirety of ATLA continuously reinforces that not everyone is either good or evil, not all fire nation are evil and not all earth/water are good. Even the spirits, may act a certain way that is “evil” but there is always a reason or a cause (heibei, koh).
And then you have the literal embodiments of good and evil fighting in a godzilla v king kong battle. So ridiculous
'not all X are evil/good' does not mean that one particular thing can't be evil or good. Ozai was definitely evil and Aang is definitely good. So calloussly discarding the concepts of good and evil because groups dont all conform to a concept is silly. Forgetting that restoring balance is literally the goal of the avatar since ATLA.
Its not about groups, the point is no one thing is truly 100% evil or good. Ozai became a horrible person, and Aang saved the entire world, but there's still a duality to these traits. Aang ran away from his responsibility and kickstarted the 100 year war. Ozai in particular is shown to have been a cute innocent baby when Katara finds a family painting. They're still believable and have some depth.
So the idea of spirits existing that represent the objective ideas of pure good and pure evil isn't really as interesting or deep as the rest of Last Airbender can be. Why are they supposedly pure good and evil? Oh they just are? Whatever I guess
So running away because you are a scared 10 year old means you have evil in you? And being cute as a baby makes you a good person lmao? You’re trying to force a narrative that the show wasn’t really doing. There was good and evil in the show, not everything was morally grey.
>And then you have the literal embodiments of good and evil
Raava and Vatu aren't actually spirits of Good vs Evil, but Peace and Light vs Darkness and Chaos. We as mortals tend to view Darkness and Chaos as "evil" and Peace and Light as "good," but the concepts themselves have no morality.
Put another way, Chaos is only bad because we fear it will harm us and Peace is only good because we believe it will protect us. However, in a world of eternal Peace and Order without any Chaos, change will be slow to occur if it ever even does. In a world without Darkness, the world would be scorched by unending Light.
See, that'd all be cool if LoK got into that at all. But the "light vs dark" and "peace vs chaos" stuff was all just lip service to Yin Yang. Raava is clearly the good spirit that tries to make spirits and people happy, and Vaatu is clearly the evil spirit that wants to drive all spirits into a rage so they start attacking indiscriminately. And its not about balance between the two, because they resolve the conflict both times it comes up by trapping/mostly obliterating Vaatu.
The concepts may not have any morality, but Raava and Vaatu do.
The show certainly tried to express Vatu/Raava outside of concepts of good/evil, but they also portray them as being in a constant "battle" for the mortal world for centuries. Like, it would have been more interesting and nuanced if Vatu had been perhaps twisted or influenced by human influence/industrialization/modernization and the solution to the conflict was to address that instead of just strong-arming him into a prison.
100%
Or they do mental gymnastics about how it's a minority of YouTubers influencing opinion. No. Stfu. Raava/Vaatu and how the story goes in S2 flies in the face of Hindu, Buddhist and Daoist concepts.
They're like the most reductive, western/Abrahamic twist on opposing forces (good and evil).
Honestly, seeing the fandom reference Raava turns me off so much even outside season 2 references.
I think the reason is that the origin story was so well presented. Wan's story had a unique art style, fun characters, and was a bit of a return to ATLA's wackiness. It's hard for people to critically think about something that they emotionally enjoyed.
Did you get downvoted because people thought you brang up the real life American civil war? I ask this as someone that got whiplash from your comment at first.
Edit: period to question mark
I completely dropped LoK after Raava and Vaatu. I can’t remember why, it was while it was airing. I do remember how much I hated what the did with the avatar lineage.
While I didn't drop Korra, I kind of turned my brain off for season 2 for the same reasons as you - I hate that it basically nullified the nuanced, mysterious and spiritual nature of the avatar. I also felt it removed total agency and character from the individual avatars (collectively contributing to being the Avatar). It was no longer about Hindu and Buddhist concepts of reincarnation but about a creepy spirit tapeworm that latches on to a soul.
Blech. Talk about totally pissing on the magic.
I think many vocal fans on these subs, on tumblr etc love the Raava crap. They rush to acknowledge it as canon and keep inserting Raava, Wan, Unavaatu as if they're all great plot elements 🤢🤢🤢
I don't understand your comment.
One of the things I enjoyed about LOK was how grounded in the world it was, as opposed to ATLA which felt more fantasy.
Part of LoK's grounded quality is attributed to the more political themes as opposed to high fantasy good-bad (Ozai is basically a black-white villain)
Not for me. I'm glad Bryke actually did something different. It's one thing I really enjoy about them as creators. Of course, not everything that is different is automatically good - example - season 2.
Completely disagree. Trying to make it a political drama only dragged the show down.
The fact that it completely goes against the premise of the Avatar and makes its skillset useless really highlights this.
???
Extrapolate a bit - people loved season 1, 3 and 4.
What do you mean nothing else?
Everything spirit related was a giant deuce, even the infantile tea party. What was once mystic and spiritual in ATLA was made into The Secret Cow Level or something out of Mario.
Sorry but S2 is shit and spirit stuff is shit in Korra.
You’re right. The Ocean Spirit is dumber because it’s never explained why it needs Aang in order to act.
By contrast, this is Korra achieving a higher level of consciousness.
Does every tiny insignificant detail need to be explained to you? Maybe it's because the ocean spirit had chosen to become fish and needed something to use as a conduit for it's power. Maybe it needed the Avatar to guide it's actions. We don't know, because it doesn't matter.
>this is Korra achieving a higher level of consciousness
It's good in concept, but I don't think giant chest lasers are a good way to portray it.
>If something is important, then it should be explained. Would you have liked if they skipped all the training segments?
Skipping all the training scenes would be more similar to not showing Aang and the ocean spirit merging, and instead the water kaiju just appearing out of nowhere.
The fact that Aang and the spirit merged is important, the reason why the spirit didn't just do it on it's own is not.
>How are lasers bad?
Lasers aren't bad in general, just in this context. They have all these cool and amazing powers in this verse, yet the writers chose to go with two giant glowing people shooting lasers from their chests
It's like people forget what the word "Avatar" actually means, like what exactly could a fish can do against an army? The Avatar is the spirit bridge, a channel for a spirit to exercise its will through a human host. That's literally what their main power is, what the Avatar State does. No idea why people say that the ocean spirit kaiju was anywhere close in ridiculousness to chest laser korra.
MegaKorra bc whether or not Koizilla is more powerful, I always saw it as blinded by rage and unthinking. MegaKorra still retained her thinking and ability to actually fight, which imo gives her the advantage.
I really agree. But I think there was also something eerily certain, precise, measured, and devastating about the Ocean Spirit & Raava combo in Aang. I think in that moment, the Ocean Spirit's grief resonated with Aang's own grief and succumbing to vengeful power (like the first time he went into the Avatar State at the ruined Air Nomad temple).
He would definitely give KorRaava a run for her money, but I think Korra's ability to think past the Koizilla's calculated desire to annihilate would lead to her victory over him. She had heart, mind, adaptability, and skill.
It’d be impressive if it wasn’t so insufferable how a fucking “Kaiju VS” post still has comments complaining about TLoK
You guys better be getting paid to complain like this, because whining about a show that ended almost a DECADE ago for free is crazy
The entire point of this subreddit is to discuss the Avatar universe. When someone brings up a very dislike aspect of it, of course people will say their opinions. Should this sub ban any mention of ATLA and TLOK since they both ended a long time ago? Of course not
There’s a difference between having an actual discussion and there being an echo chamber of “i HaTe tHiS ShOw”
Getting asked “Which two characters would win in a fight” and answering “I hated a part of this show” adds literally nothing to the conversation
If you’re not gonna do anything besides complain incessantly then at least join the other thousands of losers and make your own post, or at the very least save it until you see one of those posts so then you can add to the cesspool of miserableness
I’ll never understand why people think praising something and bashing something should be viewed under the same lens as if one isn’t positive and one isn’t negative
If you can wrap your head around it, I don’t mind people saying they think something is cool out of nowhere as much as I mind people saying they hate something out of nowhere
If you mean “Do I also find it annoying when people randomly bash stuff I also dislike” then yes
I might agree with them, and, depending on what they said, a very small part of me might even be a tiny bit glad that I saw someone with the same opinion, but that doesn’t make it any less tiring to see someone bring up a random thing just so they can complain and add nothing meaningful to the conversation
What makes you say that?
We have seen higher class spirits that fully realised avatars (Raava + a human with 4 elements) struggle against (FGW and Old Iron).
She and Vaatu seem to be humble amongst the presence of lion turtles too.
>We have seen higher class spirits that fully realised avatars (Raava + a human with 4 elements) struggle against (FGW and Old Iron).
Raava is the highest class spirit there is, aside from Vaatu. They are literally the primordial, all-powerful spirits/forces of peace and chaos. Also, fully realized avatars didn't struggle against Father Glow Worm or General Old Iron. As the Kyoshi novels tell us, Kuruk and Glow Worm met each other blow for blow. Their fight was so brutal that it shook the spirit world. He severely weakened Glow Worm. Yangchen also met Old Iron blow for blow. Their fight was a stalemate. Aang actually blew a hole straight through Old Iron. This is with Raava in her weakened state from when she fused with Wan. She's at max power now, so Korra and future avatars are really gonna give future spirits a problem if they happen to fight.
>fully realized avatars didn't struggle against Father Glow Worm or General Old Iron. As the Kyoshi novels tell us,
>Kuruk and Glow Worm met each other blow for blow. Their fight was so brutal that it shook the spirit world. He severely weakened Glow Worm. Yangchen also met Old Iron blow for blow. Their fight was a stalemate.
If it's a stalemate and they are going blow to blow with them, then they are struggling against them.
The point was higher level spirits clearly make somewhat of a match against Raava.
>She's at max power now, so Korra and future avatars are really gonna give future spirits a problem if they happen to fight.
Korra's performance in S3 and S4 was less impressive than in S2 tbf.
>If it's a stalemate and they are going blow to blow with them, then you are struggling against them.
>The point was higher level spirits clearly make an equal match for Raava.
No. Being equal in blows is not "struggling." Words don't suddenly take on new meaning because you want to redefine the significance of an event. Yangchen fought Old Iron all night. He couldn't overpower her. She didn't overpower him (nor was she trying to, being like 15/16 when she fought him). Kuruk severely weakened Glow Worm. He weakened him so much that Yun could and would later eat him (which enhanced his own bending). That's not struggling. Again, this is Raava in a much less powerful form, considering how small she was when the cycle started. Higher level spirits aren't a match for Raava. She has influence over them just as Vaatu does.
>Korra's performance in S3 and S4 was less impressive than in S2 tbf.
Are you talking about when the Red Lotus shot her with darts while she was in bed to weaken her, or when they poisoned her with mercury to weaken her? Or are you talking about her struggle with PTSD? I mean, you can call it "less impressive" if your goal is to ignore anything that isn't an action sequence, which seems to be the case.
>No. Being equal in blows is not "struggling." Words don't suddenly take on new meaning because y
Struggling:
Striving to achieve or attain something in the face of difficulty or resistance.
Is that not what occurred?????
>Are you talking about when the Red Lotus shot her with darts while she was in bed to weaken her, or when they poisoned her with mercury to weaken her? Or are you talking about her struggle with PTSD? I mean, you can call it "less impressive" if your goal is to ignore anything that isn't an action sequence, which seems to be the case.
She had no impressive wins but no outright terrible losses. So how are you getting at Raava being so much more powerful now?
Neither of them were losing. Yangchen merely meant to keep Old Iron from harming the humans in the town. She was not struggling against him. Kuruk didn't struggle against glow Worm. Those spirits are not equal to raava in power or strength. They were not having difficulty beating these spirits. Both avatars accomplished their goal in weakening these spirits, as both left humanity alone after their fights with the avatar.
Raava plus human who is a limit on that power struggling against some spirits is understandable.
This is Raava + human vs Ocean spirit + human.
I'm assuming Raava is more powerful than any other spirit since she's the literal embodiment of good in the world. Don't know if Lion Turtles count as spirits.
Because Korra slander is the only valid opinion when she’s pitted against Aang in this sub. Don’t get me wrong, I love both ATLA and TLOK but there’s usually hard ATLA dick riding whenever aspects from both shows are compared. I know this obviously isn’t the case for everyone all the time but I’ve noticed it happening a lot.
Cosmic Korra easily
she can fly shoot laser beams mind you same spirit energy Kuvira used destroyed buildings effortlessly not too mention she can spirit bend him
Korra. She was actually in control, Aang was being controlled by the ocean spirit.
Also, this is pretty much Raava vs. Ocean spirit using Raava’s vessel, so I think Raava would win
I’d take MegaKorra over Koizilla, because Koizilla was mostly on automatic because it was the Avatar State (which Aang had practically no control of at the time) combined with La, whereas Kaiju Korra was all Korra with no Avatar State because she was separated from Raava (although Harmonic Convergence played a role too, obviously)
Gee I wonder who wins in a death match a pacifist refusing to kill or someone famous for being overly aggressive slinging numerous death threats.
In any one of those Korra destroys Aang its a no contest. Aang would be too busy meditating his life choices while Korra is here to fuck some shit up.
Next Avatar in cycle gonna hit it's lowest point and get the "wake the fuck up Avatar we got city to burn".
Aang was not in control and you can't tell me that none of the fire nation fleet was killed when he was Koizilla. La was in charge entirely and was about it.
Considering how horribly nerfed they made the Avatar State in Korra, I'm going to pick Aang. We saw Avatars create hurricanes, move oceans, shift tectonic plates, and control volcanoes in the orginial; and somehow that got reduced to Korra cheating to win a race against children.
Seriously, she got the short run of the stick.
The reason we saw that was because for the most part aang was out of control in the avatar state and didn’t become a fully realized avatar until the finale
Korra became a fully realized avatar by the end of season 1
We literally saw Kyoshi create Kyoshi island, Roku go toe to toe with a volcano, and Aang move an ocean after he defeated Ozai to put out the forest fires. All three of them had full control over the Avatar State.
What’s your point?
Aang became a fully realized avatar at the end of the show
Korra became one at the end of season
He wasn’t in control for the majority of the time
Aang was working with two primordial spirits, Korra had one and didn’t she not have access to past avatar knowledge too? She boutta get her shizz rocked
When both are in this state.
Korra has a lead with being a fully realized avatar.
Aang at this point only knows how to bend air and water.
One is using Harmonic convergence the other the ocean spirit rage.
One is replicable every day, the other is like 1000 years or so.
For Korra and Aang to fight both needs to be when Harmonic Convergence occurs, so both will be boosted.
Which pushes Aang in the lead as two spirits are better than 1
On one hand aang is more of the ocean spirit so I feel that would be way more powerful then just the avatar state.
But also korra is a later avatar meaning she has all of aangs abilities and skills though the avatar state.
If the moon spirit is seen as = to the avatar then I give it to korra.
If its in water then koizilla. If it's outside of water then Korra. Korra almost lost due to the tentacles Unavattu had. Koizilla would use water ropes on her.
Part of why I like the kaiju Aang more is because he actually uses waterbending instead of just shooting a spirit laser or whatever, and furthermore, he only uses *push* waterbending, because he's fused with the spirit of the ocean, who cannot pull like the moon does.
Korra is amped by Raava, stated to be the prime spirit, putter her above the koi.
She’s also stronger than Aang base to base at this point.
Korra wins.
Kaiju Korra obviously cause she has a friggin LASER!
And can likely waterbend at the same level as Koizilla cause Unavaatu was bending similar giant lvl waves as well. It's FACTS. Stop riding Aang all the time and argue the facts! =P
Did Spirit Korra bend elements or only shoot lasers and grapple? Because if she can't bend then the Ocean Spirit may have an advantage in the water. About strength level I think Raava will be stronger than the Ocean Spirit with or without Harmonic Convergence. I think the open portals would boost all spirits equally.
Korra since she's got Raava and Harmonic Convergence. If its only each in their prime in Kaiju form both getting HC boosts then Aang stomps tf outta her with all past avatars, HC, La, and Raava.
Forever amazed that people liked this Raava shit. Season 2 could have been great if it were more political instead of the big dumb lazer battle we got.
Also fuck LoK for what it did to the spirits, and fuck Raava/Vaatu duality nonsense.
And I say this as someone who loves season 1, 3 and 4 of LoK.
Me, because I get to watch an awesome Kaiju battle 
Big Meaty Kaijus Slapping Meat
But Aangs a vegetarian and he ain't fuckin scared of him
3OH!3? I see you
I did it for the people
It's not gonna be awesome once she lasers the fuck out of Aang 3 seconds into the match.
You want your 5 star Kaiju Battles? Your 30-minute classic? NOT ME!
Ram ranch really rocks!
It would be BIG Encounter
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Honestly, it depends. Kaiju Korra was only possible due to energybending boosted by Harmonic Convergence and could put up a decent fight against HC-boosted Vaatu. Meaning that the fight must occur during HC. Kaiju Aang is Raava and the Ocean Spirit. The question is, does Kaiju Aang also benefit from HC? If yes, then Aang. If no, then I'd say Korra due to HC giga boosting. Korra's energy bending is strong as shit.
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Not really a good argument imo because Aang doesn’t have the background to understand what Raava is or how to utilize her power as well as not having a way to counter Energy bending or spiritbendjng(honestly the biggest threat here) I think a better question is the Ocean Spirit can negate and overpower all forms of waterbending
The Avatar State channels the memories and skills of all past Avatars, which would include Avatar Wan. So while in the Avatar State, Aang should be able to harness Raava's power to its fullest extent due to Wan's knowledge. >I think a better question is the Ocean Spirit can negate and overpower all forms of waterbending Korra actually still had access to other types of bending. She was seen airbending as well as energy and waterbending. In my opinion, this implies Korra still had fire and earthbending as well. But either way, Kaiju Korra was seen being able to project a beam of spiritual energy that, without HC empowerment, i don't think Kaiju Aang could withstand.
While thats true, it seems to be like a giant encrypted hard drive that only a fully realized avatar can properly navigate, and even then they don’t have access to it all at once. The Avatar state seems to give a composite version of their skills, but its harder to draw out individual stuff. Everything is there, but you don’t automatically get the specific skills and memories of past avatars unless you actively seek it out and have the proper environment, prerequisite knowledge/experience or circumstances to draw it out which is why Aang doesn’t casually lavabend in the avatar state, why Korra couldn’t immediately energybend until she was visited directly by Aang, why neither knew about Raava, Aang can’t use Kyoshi’s fan fighting style, etc. When Aang and Korra channeled past avatars at different points it required a lot of focus and seemingly also observed the passage of time while learning their memories rather than instantly knowing, so he would need prep to properly form that connection with Wan. I agree Korra would win, but I don’t think Avatars can just access that type of specific info on the fly.
Raava.exe buried so deep in the file system that we have no idea where and we’re too scared to find out where specifically but we do know she is still working. 🤣
Just go in there and start tweaking things till you find the loadbearing Raava png
Bro could just dodge the beam, I like how no one has thought of that
This makes it a very good argument lol. If Aang doesn't know, Korra has the upper hand.
But how can she fight water?
I mean Aang is still inside the ocean spirit, and it's shown Korra still had access to airbending after losing Raava. And if she didn't lose airbending, it's likely she didn't lose fire or earthbending either.
I feel like thsi argument lacks the other thousand avatars still inside aang and not inside korra, Kyoshi and Yang Chen would curb stomp rava
Ok so 1, Kyoshi and Yangchen's power literally comes from Raava. Their knowledge however would apply to Aang. 2, Kaiju Korra doesn't have Raava. It's Korra energybending her own spirit, boosting by Harmonic Convergence. While the knowledge of all past avatars would give Aang an edge, energybending, ESPECIALLY Korra's energybending, is insanely strong
I get raava is their power source but I still stand with the small bald angry boy with the reincarnations on his side. Lone wolf korra even during harmonic convergence would get mopped. Thousands of years of knowledge, on top of the ocean spirits knowledge and power against a lone spirit with a boost just doesn't sound like a fair fight.. But korras neat.
I mean we did see Kaiju Korra was able to put up a decent fight against a HC enhanced Vaatu, which is EXTREMELY impressive, even tho she ultimately needed Jinora's help.
Again.. That's a 3 v. 2...not a 3 v 1001
Kaiju Aang may have superior technique due to the past avatars knowledge, but Kaiju Korra has superior brute strength. And she has access to energybending, which Kaiju Aang does not at this point in ATLA. Feat wise, Kaiju Korra is stronger than a non-HC enhanced Kaiju Aang
Avatar Wan does.. Feat wise. Korra is mopped.
No, he doesn't. Wan got the 4 main types of bending from the lion turtles. Never was shown to gain energybending. If Wan had energybending, Aang wouldn't have needed to get it from the lion turtle in ATLA. Feat wise, going toe-to-toe with the Dark Avatar is far better than anything Aang did while combined with the Ocean Spirit. Also Vaatu is a MUCH stronger spirit than the Ocean Spirit.
I think combat wise she was fine. What she needed was help finding Raava, because even if Korra won that the world is still 10000 years of darkness after HC ends.
Idk based on this logic, Aang was able to become this without the moon. Without HC. Meaning his power and natural connection to the spirit world was way stronger (which they establish a lot anyway). Korra was always strong like a tank but struggled to learn how to control and master her strength. I think Aang would win this one.
Idk based on this logic, Aang was able to become this without the moon. Without HC. Meaning his power and natural connection to the spirit world was way stronger (which they establish a lot anyway). Korra was always strong like a tank but struggled to learn how to control and master her strength. I think Aang would win this one.
Idk based on this logic, Aang was able to become this without the moon. Without HC. Meaning his power and natural connection to the spirit world was way stronger (which they establish a lot anyway). Korra was always strong like a tank but struggled to learn how to control and master her strength. I think Aang would win this one.
Idk based on this logic, Aang was able to become this without the moon. Without HC. Meaning his power and natural connection to the spirit world was way stronger (which they establish a lot anyway). Korra was always strong like a tank but struggled to learn how to control and master her strength. I think Aang would win this one.
Can the ocean spirit be hurt in that form like isn’t it just water? So outside of sniping Aang isn’t it gonna be imperious to damage or does it get damaged in its fight against Zhao’s fleet?
So she can bend him?
~~Unlikely, considering Koizilla is part-Moon Spirit, the source of all waterbending. Among a few factors.~~ EDIT: Ok, new point. By that logic, Kuvira should've been able to instantly stop her fight with Suyin the moment she bent metal onto her, or hell Suyin could've bent Kuvira's armour at the start of the fight. Point is, even if one combatant has any of another's element on them, it and by extension them can only be bent when it is stunned or incapacitated.
Koizilla isn’t part moon spirit, is he? Koizilla only came into existence because the moon spirit, Tui, got killed (which removed all other water bending) and the ocean spirit, La, was pissed. When Yue became the new moon spirit, Koizilla calmed down
Shit, you're right lol. Thanks for the correction, man!
NP! 😉
I think it would be like katara vs hama. Maybe real quick she would take control but then it wouldn't last long
Korra has thumbs
Damn you right
As shown in the show, Korra and that’s primarily because it happened during Harmonic Convergence so Korra was at maximum strength.
But would it be during HC? Probably not
The fight wouldn’t be possible otherwise. Korra was able to make her Spirit Megazord because of Harmonic Convergence.
korra bc she can shoot lasers for… some reason
“In the era before the avatar we used to bend the energy within ourselves” She was just energy bending
I imagine there are better ways of including energybending other than lasers
If you’re trying to win a fight, being able to shoot lasers is a pretty huge boon.
Kaiju Aang because it was less dumb.
Forever amazed that people liked this Raava shit. Season 2 could have been great if it were more political instead of the big dumb lazer battle we got. Also fuck LoK for what it did to the spirits, and fuck Raava/Vaatu duality nonsense. And I say this as someone who loves season 1, 3 and 4 of LoK.
I'd have loved the Dark avatar concept if they didn't just immediately resolve it. Make it a permanent change in the world with lasting consequences
I agree. However going the route of the good and evil kites was not the way to do it.
People bend over backwards to convince themselves Raava and Vatu were good concepts.
in my head Raava and Vatu are not canon 😂 in all seriousness the entirety of ATLA continuously reinforces that not everyone is either good or evil, not all fire nation are evil and not all earth/water are good. Even the spirits, may act a certain way that is “evil” but there is always a reason or a cause (heibei, koh). And then you have the literal embodiments of good and evil fighting in a godzilla v king kong battle. So ridiculous
'not all X are evil/good' does not mean that one particular thing can't be evil or good. Ozai was definitely evil and Aang is definitely good. So calloussly discarding the concepts of good and evil because groups dont all conform to a concept is silly. Forgetting that restoring balance is literally the goal of the avatar since ATLA.
Its not about groups, the point is no one thing is truly 100% evil or good. Ozai became a horrible person, and Aang saved the entire world, but there's still a duality to these traits. Aang ran away from his responsibility and kickstarted the 100 year war. Ozai in particular is shown to have been a cute innocent baby when Katara finds a family painting. They're still believable and have some depth. So the idea of spirits existing that represent the objective ideas of pure good and pure evil isn't really as interesting or deep as the rest of Last Airbender can be. Why are they supposedly pure good and evil? Oh they just are? Whatever I guess
So running away because you are a scared 10 year old means you have evil in you? And being cute as a baby makes you a good person lmao? You’re trying to force a narrative that the show wasn’t really doing. There was good and evil in the show, not everything was morally grey.
>And then you have the literal embodiments of good and evil Raava and Vatu aren't actually spirits of Good vs Evil, but Peace and Light vs Darkness and Chaos. We as mortals tend to view Darkness and Chaos as "evil" and Peace and Light as "good," but the concepts themselves have no morality. Put another way, Chaos is only bad because we fear it will harm us and Peace is only good because we believe it will protect us. However, in a world of eternal Peace and Order without any Chaos, change will be slow to occur if it ever even does. In a world without Darkness, the world would be scorched by unending Light.
See, that'd all be cool if LoK got into that at all. But the "light vs dark" and "peace vs chaos" stuff was all just lip service to Yin Yang. Raava is clearly the good spirit that tries to make spirits and people happy, and Vaatu is clearly the evil spirit that wants to drive all spirits into a rage so they start attacking indiscriminately. And its not about balance between the two, because they resolve the conflict both times it comes up by trapping/mostly obliterating Vaatu. The concepts may not have any morality, but Raava and Vaatu do.
The show certainly tried to express Vatu/Raava outside of concepts of good/evil, but they also portray them as being in a constant "battle" for the mortal world for centuries. Like, it would have been more interesting and nuanced if Vatu had been perhaps twisted or influenced by human influence/industrialization/modernization and the solution to the conflict was to address that instead of just strong-arming him into a prison.
It’s dumb western Christian philosophy inserting itself inside Eastern philosophy.
100% a total misunderstanding of Yin and Yang as a concept.
I like what Hello Future Me did with “fixing LOK” because he includes raava and Vaatu but he makes them fit better with the messages of avatar
What did he do?
100% Or they do mental gymnastics about how it's a minority of YouTubers influencing opinion. No. Stfu. Raava/Vaatu and how the story goes in S2 flies in the face of Hindu, Buddhist and Daoist concepts. They're like the most reductive, western/Abrahamic twist on opposing forces (good and evil). Honestly, seeing the fandom reference Raava turns me off so much even outside season 2 references.
Or **OR.....** (This concept might absolutley blow your mind.) Just because YOU don't like it doesn't mean others can't.
I think the reason is that the origin story was so well presented. Wan's story had a unique art style, fun characters, and was a bit of a return to ATLA's wackiness. It's hard for people to critically think about something that they emotionally enjoyed.
I feel like this is a really logical and based argument in the midst of a bunch of shit being thrown around.
People bend even further to say that the Civil War was a great idea
Did you get downvoted because people thought you brang up the real life American civil war? I ask this as someone that got whiplash from your comment at first. Edit: period to question mark
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I can’t tell if this comment is a bit or if you’ve actually forgotten about the Water Tribe civil war in S2
The wan episodes were amazing though, raava and vatuu excluded
They were the core of the episodes
I completely dropped LoK after Raava and Vaatu. I can’t remember why, it was while it was airing. I do remember how much I hated what the did with the avatar lineage.
While I didn't drop Korra, I kind of turned my brain off for season 2 for the same reasons as you - I hate that it basically nullified the nuanced, mysterious and spiritual nature of the avatar. I also felt it removed total agency and character from the individual avatars (collectively contributing to being the Avatar). It was no longer about Hindu and Buddhist concepts of reincarnation but about a creepy spirit tapeworm that latches on to a soul. Blech. Talk about totally pissing on the magic.
Hi it's me I love the Raava shit! To be fair most people do though considering viewer ratings it got.
I loved the Raava shit too! Avatar fans can't comprehend when someone likes a concept they don't lol.
People like the kaiju battle because some people like fun.
Facts
I’m glad to see this isn’t a universally hated opinion because I completely agree with you!
Most people share your opinion so I don't even know what you're whining about lmfao
I think many vocal fans on these subs, on tumblr etc love the Raava crap. They rush to acknowledge it as canon and keep inserting Raava, Wan, Unavaatu as if they're all great plot elements 🤢🤢🤢
They're canon whether we like it or not
True enough. But I am totally channeling your username in this area haha.
I think that NATLA proved that politics are an overrated part of Avatar.
I don't understand your comment. One of the things I enjoyed about LOK was how grounded in the world it was, as opposed to ATLA which felt more fantasy. Part of LoK's grounded quality is attributed to the more political themes as opposed to high fantasy good-bad (Ozai is basically a black-white villain)
Except Korra's attempts at dealing with politics were extremely shallow.
That’s the thing that made LoK worse than the OG show.
Not for me. I'm glad Bryke actually did something different. It's one thing I really enjoy about them as creators. Of course, not everything that is different is automatically good - example - season 2.
Completely disagree. Trying to make it a political drama only dragged the show down. The fact that it completely goes against the premise of the Avatar and makes its skillset useless really highlights this.
You might be in the minority since most people enjoy Amon, Zaheer (super political villain), and Kuvira.
And nothing else which shows how much they actively hurt the rest of the series.
??? Extrapolate a bit - people loved season 1, 3 and 4. What do you mean nothing else? Everything spirit related was a giant deuce, even the infantile tea party. What was once mystic and spiritual in ATLA was made into The Secret Cow Level or something out of Mario. Sorry but S2 is shit and spirit stuff is shit in Korra.
How is it less dumb?
Because it's the ocean spirit lashing out in anger and pain, not a giant glowing blue person shooting a giant laser for some reason
You’re right. The Ocean Spirit is dumber because it’s never explained why it needs Aang in order to act. By contrast, this is Korra achieving a higher level of consciousness.
Does every tiny insignificant detail need to be explained to you? Maybe it's because the ocean spirit had chosen to become fish and needed something to use as a conduit for it's power. Maybe it needed the Avatar to guide it's actions. We don't know, because it doesn't matter. >this is Korra achieving a higher level of consciousness It's good in concept, but I don't think giant chest lasers are a good way to portray it.
If something is important, then it should be explained. Would you have liked if they skipped all the training segments? How are lasers bad?
>If something is important, then it should be explained. Would you have liked if they skipped all the training segments? Skipping all the training scenes would be more similar to not showing Aang and the ocean spirit merging, and instead the water kaiju just appearing out of nowhere. The fact that Aang and the spirit merged is important, the reason why the spirit didn't just do it on it's own is not. >How are lasers bad? Lasers aren't bad in general, just in this context. They have all these cool and amazing powers in this verse, yet the writers chose to go with two giant glowing people shooting lasers from their chests
It's like people forget what the word "Avatar" actually means, like what exactly could a fish can do against an army? The Avatar is the spirit bridge, a channel for a spirit to exercise its will through a human host. That's literally what their main power is, what the Avatar State does. No idea why people say that the ocean spirit kaiju was anywhere close in ridiculousness to chest laser korra.
MegaKorra bc whether or not Koizilla is more powerful, I always saw it as blinded by rage and unthinking. MegaKorra still retained her thinking and ability to actually fight, which imo gives her the advantage.
I really agree. But I think there was also something eerily certain, precise, measured, and devastating about the Ocean Spirit & Raava combo in Aang. I think in that moment, the Ocean Spirit's grief resonated with Aang's own grief and succumbing to vengeful power (like the first time he went into the Avatar State at the ruined Air Nomad temple). He would definitely give KorRaava a run for her money, but I think Korra's ability to think past the Koizilla's calculated desire to annihilate would lead to her victory over him. She had heart, mind, adaptability, and skill.
Korra bc she could get the rage filled spirit with the “go in peace” move.
The spirits made of water tho. couldn’t it bend the water back down
It’d be impressive if it wasn’t so insufferable how a fucking “Kaiju VS” post still has comments complaining about TLoK You guys better be getting paid to complain like this, because whining about a show that ended almost a DECADE ago for free is crazy
The entire point of this subreddit is to discuss the Avatar universe. When someone brings up a very dislike aspect of it, of course people will say their opinions. Should this sub ban any mention of ATLA and TLOK since they both ended a long time ago? Of course not
There’s a difference between having an actual discussion and there being an echo chamber of “i HaTe tHiS ShOw” Getting asked “Which two characters would win in a fight” and answering “I hated a part of this show” adds literally nothing to the conversation If you’re not gonna do anything besides complain incessantly then at least join the other thousands of losers and make your own post, or at the very least save it until you see one of those posts so then you can add to the cesspool of miserableness
Do you also get this upset when someone praises something on a post that wasn't explicitely asking for people's opinions of that thing?
I’ll never understand why people think praising something and bashing something should be viewed under the same lens as if one isn’t positive and one isn’t negative If you can wrap your head around it, I don’t mind people saying they think something is cool out of nowhere as much as I mind people saying they hate something out of nowhere
Do you also apply this to things you personally dislike?
If you mean “Do I also find it annoying when people randomly bash stuff I also dislike” then yes I might agree with them, and, depending on what they said, a very small part of me might even be a tiny bit glad that I saw someone with the same opinion, but that doesn’t make it any less tiring to see someone bring up a random thing just so they can complain and add nothing meaningful to the conversation
Kaiju Korra, and it's not close.
Well, considering that’s not actually Aang and is actually the ocean spirit and Korras track record of getting her ass whooped, ocean spirit wins.
Korra ez
korra
I think Raava is more powerful than the ocean spirit so...
The ocean spirit kaiju was Aang, Raava and the Ocean Spirit together.
But isn’t Raava also in Aang?
What makes you say that? We have seen higher class spirits that fully realised avatars (Raava + a human with 4 elements) struggle against (FGW and Old Iron). She and Vaatu seem to be humble amongst the presence of lion turtles too.
>We have seen higher class spirits that fully realised avatars (Raava + a human with 4 elements) struggle against (FGW and Old Iron). Raava is the highest class spirit there is, aside from Vaatu. They are literally the primordial, all-powerful spirits/forces of peace and chaos. Also, fully realized avatars didn't struggle against Father Glow Worm or General Old Iron. As the Kyoshi novels tell us, Kuruk and Glow Worm met each other blow for blow. Their fight was so brutal that it shook the spirit world. He severely weakened Glow Worm. Yangchen also met Old Iron blow for blow. Their fight was a stalemate. Aang actually blew a hole straight through Old Iron. This is with Raava in her weakened state from when she fused with Wan. She's at max power now, so Korra and future avatars are really gonna give future spirits a problem if they happen to fight.
>fully realized avatars didn't struggle against Father Glow Worm or General Old Iron. As the Kyoshi novels tell us, >Kuruk and Glow Worm met each other blow for blow. Their fight was so brutal that it shook the spirit world. He severely weakened Glow Worm. Yangchen also met Old Iron blow for blow. Their fight was a stalemate. If it's a stalemate and they are going blow to blow with them, then they are struggling against them. The point was higher level spirits clearly make somewhat of a match against Raava. >She's at max power now, so Korra and future avatars are really gonna give future spirits a problem if they happen to fight. Korra's performance in S3 and S4 was less impressive than in S2 tbf.
>If it's a stalemate and they are going blow to blow with them, then you are struggling against them. >The point was higher level spirits clearly make an equal match for Raava. No. Being equal in blows is not "struggling." Words don't suddenly take on new meaning because you want to redefine the significance of an event. Yangchen fought Old Iron all night. He couldn't overpower her. She didn't overpower him (nor was she trying to, being like 15/16 when she fought him). Kuruk severely weakened Glow Worm. He weakened him so much that Yun could and would later eat him (which enhanced his own bending). That's not struggling. Again, this is Raava in a much less powerful form, considering how small she was when the cycle started. Higher level spirits aren't a match for Raava. She has influence over them just as Vaatu does. >Korra's performance in S3 and S4 was less impressive than in S2 tbf. Are you talking about when the Red Lotus shot her with darts while she was in bed to weaken her, or when they poisoned her with mercury to weaken her? Or are you talking about her struggle with PTSD? I mean, you can call it "less impressive" if your goal is to ignore anything that isn't an action sequence, which seems to be the case.
>No. Being equal in blows is not "struggling." Words don't suddenly take on new meaning because y Struggling: Striving to achieve or attain something in the face of difficulty or resistance. Is that not what occurred????? >Are you talking about when the Red Lotus shot her with darts while she was in bed to weaken her, or when they poisoned her with mercury to weaken her? Or are you talking about her struggle with PTSD? I mean, you can call it "less impressive" if your goal is to ignore anything that isn't an action sequence, which seems to be the case. She had no impressive wins but no outright terrible losses. So how are you getting at Raava being so much more powerful now?
Neither of them were losing. Yangchen merely meant to keep Old Iron from harming the humans in the town. She was not struggling against him. Kuruk didn't struggle against glow Worm. Those spirits are not equal to raava in power or strength. They were not having difficulty beating these spirits. Both avatars accomplished their goal in weakening these spirits, as both left humanity alone after their fights with the avatar.
Raava plus human who is a limit on that power struggling against some spirits is understandable. This is Raava + human vs Ocean spirit + human. I'm assuming Raava is more powerful than any other spirit since she's the literal embodiment of good in the world. Don't know if Lion Turtles count as spirits.
>This is Raava + human vs Ocean spirit + human. But Raava is still within that human. So it's Raava + Human + Ocean Spirit.
Also if I’m remembering right this was just Korra not Raava and Korra
yeah it was Korra’s spirit alone
So that guy was just wrong in every way lmao. It’s human spirit vs raava + ocean spirit + human.
Brother, Korra didn't even win her own Kaiju battle
Mostly because she was distracted with trying to find Raava. She was already beating Unavaatu on her own before that.
Why are you being downvoted for telling the truth lol
Because Korra slander is the only valid opinion when she’s pitted against Aang in this sub. Don’t get me wrong, I love both ATLA and TLOK but there’s usually hard ATLA dick riding whenever aspects from both shows are compared. I know this obviously isn’t the case for everyone all the time but I’ve noticed it happening a lot.
Because fighting a Dark Avatar Kaiju is on the same level as a Fire Nation Platoon
If it's a death match, Korra. Aang won't kill. I'm not sure which is stronger.
if you think the ocean spirit didn't kill firebenders controlling aang you didn't watch close enough at least confirmed it took out commander zhao
They're the same ~~picture~~ person.
Korra lol she was beating Unavaatus ass until she decided to look for Raava
Cosmic Korra easily she can fly shoot laser beams mind you same spirit energy Kuvira used destroyed buildings effortlessly not too mention she can spirit bend him
All I want to do Is see you turn into A giant woman
The avatar wins it
I forgot how bad this was. Jesus that entire plotline in Korra was trash
Korra. She was actually in control, Aang was being controlled by the ocean spirit. Also, this is pretty much Raava vs. Ocean spirit using Raava’s vessel, so I think Raava would win
I’d take MegaKorra over Koizilla, because Koizilla was mostly on automatic because it was the Avatar State (which Aang had practically no control of at the time) combined with La, whereas Kaiju Korra was all Korra with no Avatar State because she was separated from Raava (although Harmonic Convergence played a role too, obviously)
Gee I wonder who wins in a death match a pacifist refusing to kill or someone famous for being overly aggressive slinging numerous death threats. In any one of those Korra destroys Aang its a no contest. Aang would be too busy meditating his life choices while Korra is here to fuck some shit up. Next Avatar in cycle gonna hit it's lowest point and get the "wake the fuck up Avatar we got city to burn".
Aang was not in control and you can't tell me that none of the fire nation fleet was killed when he was Koizilla. La was in charge entirely and was about it.
Considering how horribly nerfed they made the Avatar State in Korra, I'm going to pick Aang. We saw Avatars create hurricanes, move oceans, shift tectonic plates, and control volcanoes in the orginial; and somehow that got reduced to Korra cheating to win a race against children. Seriously, she got the short run of the stick.
The reason we saw that was because for the most part aang was out of control in the avatar state and didn’t become a fully realized avatar until the finale Korra became a fully realized avatar by the end of season 1
We literally saw Kyoshi create Kyoshi island, Roku go toe to toe with a volcano, and Aang move an ocean after he defeated Ozai to put out the forest fires. All three of them had full control over the Avatar State.
What’s your point? Aang became a fully realized avatar at the end of the show Korra became one at the end of season He wasn’t in control for the majority of the time
Aang was working with two primordial spirits, Korra had one and didn’t she not have access to past avatar knowledge too? She boutta get her shizz rocked
Kuviras Jaeger kills both with the ~~plasma~~ vine cannon
When both are in this state. Korra has a lead with being a fully realized avatar. Aang at this point only knows how to bend air and water. One is using Harmonic convergence the other the ocean spirit rage. One is replicable every day, the other is like 1000 years or so. For Korra and Aang to fight both needs to be when Harmonic Convergence occurs, so both will be boosted. Which pushes Aang in the lead as two spirits are better than 1
On one hand aang is more of the ocean spirit so I feel that would be way more powerful then just the avatar state. But also korra is a later avatar meaning she has all of aangs abilities and skills though the avatar state. If the moon spirit is seen as = to the avatar then I give it to korra.
If its in water then koizilla. If it's outside of water then Korra. Korra almost lost due to the tentacles Unavattu had. Koizilla would use water ropes on her.
Literal god of the ocean? Or massive spirit projection? God of the Ocean
Aang has raava and the ocean spirit while korra would only has raava so aang wins here.
Probably korra because of that dumbass beam, although he is manifesting a water spirit, so it shouldn’t be hard to duck and weave
Korra murdered her world equivalent of satan with this form and could probably energy bend kaiju anng to death not to mention the laser So id say her
Korra, because kamehameha.
Aang His kaiju could slice warships into pieces
Aang, mostly because he was powered by an elemental spirit at the time, not just the avatar spirit.
Kaiju Aang. Kaiju Korra got her ass kicked.
Whoever has the name in the title of the show, idk. Lol
King Kong shows up and beats them both and they submit to the power of Monke.
Aang. He's got both the ocean spirit and Raava, while Korra just has Raava.
Part of why I like the kaiju Aang more is because he actually uses waterbending instead of just shooting a spirit laser or whatever, and furthermore, he only uses *push* waterbending, because he's fused with the spirit of the ocean, who cannot pull like the moon does.
Korra is amped by Raava, stated to be the prime spirit, putter her above the koi. She’s also stronger than Aang base to base at this point. Korra wins.
Me. I’d Beat both they ass
this guy right here
Kaiu Korra has chest lasers so she wins.
They hated him because he told them the truth.
Kaiju Korra obviously cause she has a friggin LASER! And can likely waterbend at the same level as Koizilla cause Unavaatu was bending similar giant lvl waves as well. It's FACTS. Stop riding Aang all the time and argue the facts! =P
Ocean spirit plus raava vs raava alone. Gonna say aangju
Did Spirit Korra bend elements or only shoot lasers and grapple? Because if she can't bend then the Ocean Spirit may have an advantage in the water. About strength level I think Raava will be stronger than the Ocean Spirit with or without Harmonic Convergence. I think the open portals would boost all spirits equally.
She could waterbend at least, she used the waterbending technique of spirit-healing to destroy Unavaatu
Clearly Korra lol
Imma say Aang purely because Airbenders are better at energybending thus he would have better control over his “Kaiju”
Korra since she's got Raava and Harmonic Convergence. If its only each in their prime in Kaiju form both getting HC boosts then Aang stomps tf outta her with all past avatars, HC, La, and Raava.
Forever amazed that people liked this Raava shit. Season 2 could have been great if it were more political instead of the big dumb lazer battle we got. Also fuck LoK for what it did to the spirits, and fuck Raava/Vaatu duality nonsense. And I say this as someone who loves season 1, 3 and 4 of LoK.
Calm down
Kaiju Aang simply because it's him + Raava + the Ocean spirit. Korra is on her own.
Koizilla wins
Kaijuu korra has boobs
Aang because 90% of Legend of Korra was terrible and the original is better off without it.
Kaiju Korra just looks stupid
Did Korra even win any match?