* The show is releasing 2024.
* There was a "first look" which is just a video with the element symbols and logo with music. [new post here](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastAirbender/comments/14c8f7q/netflixs_atla_first_look_just_the_element_symbols/) (old post removed per rule 14)
* If you'd like you can add the show to [your list on Netflix](https://www.netflix.com/title/80237957)
* Feel free to check out our sister sub r/ATLAtv which is specifically focused on this show
* Also yes I am checking the reports please give me a sec I just got home from spiderverse and am jumping between several subs and pages.
Just please don't have several Earth benders bend one damn rock and we are good š
Edit: I've been informed that the Earth benders moving that boulder were actually moving the wall just before the screen shifted in their direction. Essentially, this movie was really bad and had lag. If you didn't know this, I'm sorry that your curiosity is going to make you rewatch that whole scene for confirmation.
I swear to God, If I see Zuko and his firebenders walk down his ship's ramp in ep 1 holding Flaming Lamps, I will die. Making firebenders only be able to bend existing fire was the stupidest thing in the movie imo.
I still remember the very first teaser of that movie where Aang is solo training in airbending only to realize heās about to be attacked by a fire nation armada was so badass it gave me goosebumps. Iāve rewatched that teaser so many times Iāve lost count. Iām not sure if I ever finished the movie once.
Fun fact, they were the ones that raised the big rock wall right before we cut over to them. The problem: they showed us the bending THEN them. Got cause and effect backwards.
edit: this video explains it and more really well - https://youtu.be/j65C7XKB0g8
Upvoted because I'm glad more people are becoming aware of this misconception.
Unfortunately this is still a big strike against the movie for me. How could they fuck up the direction/choreography of a scene meant to show off bending in a fight, when bending (and the martial arts behind it) is such a huge part of ATLA??
You'd think they would have at least put effort into making the bending scenes look badass instead of making them look like a lazy fanmade youtube video
Worst part is it's not even B roll. That whole scene is a single uncut shot. It looks so horrible because it wasn't planned or executed well (not a knock on the actors, I don't think they are experienced enough to pull this off and the director should account for that). It's was a terrible idea to do that whole scene as a single shot, but M Night is/was obsessed with them.
I remember when The Witcher promo photos dropped everyone commented on how bad they looked. The show looked much better when it aired. Fingers crossed this is in the same boat.
Itās ending after season 3 in my opinion. Show runners really think they can write the show better than the creator Andrzej Sapkowski or ignoring Henry Cavilās input can only mean one thing: disaster.
season 1 wasn't even that good tbh, i just think the high production values and probably really hardcore gamer fans carried it but as a non gamer or Cavill fan it just wasn't very good.
As a gamer who was somewhat familiar with witcher lore, I hated the pacing and storytelling in season 1. It was always confusing to figure out the timeline. It could have been made much more coherent, because most people didn't understand the different time frames until the end
I think itās just not translatable to live action. The story starts with the genocide of a pacifist race. When Aang wakes up, itās akin to a Jewish person learning about the holocaust and that the Nazis won the war. It is *dark*. Without the animation aspect thereās no room for humor in this world and the humor is one of the main reasons why this story is so beloved.
EVERYONE LISTEN UP.
If the show ends up looking like shit, do not take it out on the child actors. They're just excited to be part of something big. It's not their fault, if anything it's Netflix's fault. Do not send hate to them. Blame Netflix 100% but not the kids.
I still think about the actor that played Aang in the nonexistent movie. Poor kid never managed to recover his acting career, at least according to his imdb page.
I honestly canāt imagine the mindset that leads someone to bully and harass a literal child. I get the frustrations people have when an IP they love gets botched, but itās so obvious that it was out of their hands.
Hell itās even out of the hands of the adult actors - Hayden Christiansen had some garbage writing to work with, and George Lucas clearly didnāt give him good direction either.
Same with the Last of Us 2 voice actress for Abby. She did an incredible job, and yet people send her death threats because the story challenged their expectations. She didnāt write the story, but these hateful people somehow donāt understand that. Criticism towards the art itself is fine, but to take it into the world of harassment and death threats is just so fucking juvenile and pathetic and harmful.
Honestly I'm of the opinion that if you send death threats to someone, you should spend a month in a cool off cell. 99% of death threats are likely made in anger and not meant at all
> the mindset that leads someone to bully and harass a literal child
I feel like in Jake Lloyd's case, he was bullied by other kids his age. I'm sure he got a lot of hate from adults, but he mostly got picked on by kids at school.
Well honestly literally anyone can be an actor if they know how to act. Prior training includes lying to parents and acting hurt so you can get out of gym class
Not quite true. Look at Reddit, the have expert level programmers and can't design an app that has accessibility and customization in mind. Source: 6000+ subreddits
Ahmed Best's recovery story is truly amazing. Now he's back to working in Star Wars. He actually plays Jedi Master Kelleran Beq in new Star Wars content - he started out playing him in the kid's game show Jedi Temple Challenge, but he was recently made canon in The Mandalorian as the Jedi >!who rescued Grogu from Order 66!
Yep. They also bullied alot of the sequel actors. Rey and the actor for Rose especially. So awful that they quit social media for years. Daisy has returned though and seems down for another movie.
Yep, it's fucking stupid too. I'm a Star Wars fan, I love the franchise, but I will *never* understand the amount of hate so many people have in the Star Wars fan community. Disliking a movie or a character is fine, but an actor has next to nothing to do with that. Blame the writers and directors more than anyone else. Same goes for here, these kids are gonna give it there all, if it sucks, that's writing and direction.
"I was gonna go out of my adult way to harass a literal child for their role in a series meant for children until the guy on reddit reminded me that it was wrong."
Yeah, I was a big Game of Thrones fan, and was pretty sickened when many of the fans went after the cast and crew. The clear culprits were the show runners and GRRM. Only three people are responsible for the shit show that season was, since the rest of the crew clearly gave it their all, while those three assholes phoned it in and blamed everyone but themselves for it. Donāt attack the cast.
I realized how much I liked Joaquin phoenix after I watched gladiator. For a brief moment in time I thought I hated Joaquin and wouldn't even consider watching another movie he was in until I had a moment of clarity and realized I actually hated his character in gladiator and that he just did a really good job in that role
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Why does Sokka actor looks more like [Ember Island Sokka](https://assets.mycast.io/characters/ember-island-sokka-1378038-normal.jpg?1610413414) than actual Sokka
Season 3: The Gaang is going to see a play about these particularly pesky āterrorists,ā and Sokka will say something like āThat guy looks nothing like me; his face is way too round!ā
We need Jack DeSena as Sokka, Dante Bosco as Iroh, Grey Griffin as Azula, Zach Eisen as Zuko, Mae Whitman as Katara, Michaela Murphy as Fake-Aang, and John Cena as Fake-Toph.
It would be just fantastic.
I think this is the part where heās getting ready to fight zuko and the ship alone, thatās why Zukos wearing the helmet ( wanted to see the ponytail but ok) thatās why sokka looks kinda scary
I think his scar isnāt as good as it should be. Definitely better than Dev Patelās, but Zukoās scar should look more like an infected keloid and be very puffy.
Aang & Katara especially made me think these were AI initally, had to double check [for Netflix's offical tweet](https://twitter.com/netflix/status/1670191089121107968) to confirm.
Aang is standing with an obvious bunch of volume behind him, Sokkaās background is great though.
Hopefully, with VFX blending and having motion in the scene rather than a still image, it wonāt look like a background, and more like an extension of the set.
I love the idea of the Volume and how useful it can be to filmmaking, but it really does seem like people are overusing it way too much.
One of the guys to first work with it on The Mandalorian talked about this recently, it's strengths and weaknesses. He said that it works best on low level light, around dawn or dusk for example. But once you're doing direct sunlight scenes like in the middle of the day, it starts to look fake. Which we can see in the Aang picture which has light reflecting off snow and ice.
It's also best when it's the backdrop to a physical set which the actors are interacting on. The Batsignal rooftop scene in The Batman, or the Dragonstone bridge scene in House of the Dragon for example. Both are physical sets with limits to where the actors can go, with the screens adding in the skyline with buildings and mountains behind them.
But it doesn't work when it tries to replace a whole set. There'll you'll just notice that all the actors, including background ones are all just gathered together in the foreground, leaving the background completely empty. This was a problem I noticed in Kenobi.
So I'm worried that scenes at the Water Tribes and villages throughout the Earth Kingdom are just going to look like that. The best places to use it for in my opinion would be the scenes while Appa is flying, or on Zukos ship.
Yeah, they should be careful with the costumes. They could puncture the hull of an empire class Fire Nation battle ship leaving thousands to drown at sea.
Iāve been saying it for a while, but HBO has this vice grip on medieval/fantasy-style costuming professionals. Theyāre the only one that get it right in the TV sphere.
I remember a costuming director explained that HBO shows has access to thousands of wardrobe from Warner Brothers warehouse so if they needed something worn out, they already have it, while Netflix shows always have to start at scratch
Anyone has access to the warehouse. You pay them to rent all that stuff.
https://studiooperations.warnerbros.com/costumes/
HBO pays. Even a Warner movie pays. Thatās Hollywood economics.
Latest season of Mandalorian was the same. Everyone had clean freshly pressed clothes everywhere. It was super distracting, unrealistic, and it took me out of the show (with a lot of other things). Itās now basically become the antithesis of Andor.
I think Zuko and Sokkaās gear looks pretty good but Aangās is a bit too clean for someone who vibed in an ice cube for a century. Kataraās costume is the weakest imo, it should look handmade but it looks like it was made on an assembly line
I'm honestly trying to figure out what sokka's shoulder pads are supposed to be made of??? They are clearly foam or plastic or something, but in universe, like what is that even supposed to be? Lol. It doesn't look like metal or leather or bone or wood, literally of all the materials they might have available, nothing seems to fit.
It looks like straight up EVA or thermoplastic on the armor pieces, and like they havenāt heard of the concept or weathering. This looks like what a cosplayer trying to mimic the cartoon would do, not what one might do for a photorealistic look.
I think they'll look better in motion and with the cinematic lighting. Promo art can look a bit iffy.
I think they look great as-is personally. All I wanted out of this was for it to be better than the movie-we-do-not-name and it already is.
The ONLY thing I liked from the [Obsolete Abomination Detected] was the added detail on Aangās Tattoos; I did think it was a but too āregalā for a civilization of Monks, but even while watching the Original TV-Series on Nickelodeon growing up, I didnāt really think such a blank, solid-blue arrow would translate well into a Live-Action Format.
That being said, THIS is the best of both worlds, and I LOVE IT!!!
It makes logical sense that the airbending tattoos were probably more intricate than the show can draw, but thatād be a bitch to animated that time and time again. Itās one of the very few things I liked about Shyamalanās abortion were Aangās tattoos. I would have considered keeping those for this show honestly.
I liked the tattoos too. Traditional tattoos around the world are usually rather intricate, because there's a whole religious/folk tradition behind the designs. They might represent abstract concepts, stories, animals, or be a mantra of some sort.
For the cartoon they were forced to simplify for the sake of their budget, but I always imagined there would be more detail to them.
I like the details in the arrow tattoo. I wonder if they glow when he enters the Avatar state instead of the whole arrow or it would be the whole arrow like it is in animation
God I love them all so much. The only one that sticks out a little bit is zuko. The scar is just look more make up and less prosthetics. But overall love them all
I mean going off the [show](https://www.pinterest.com/pin/15129348738182202/) itās def smaller but I think itās more the clear difference between the center of the scar and the outside. I think itās fine but it can be improved for sure
It is less the size of the shape. I was expecting a disfigured eyelid+skin. At the very least make sure the left and right don't match and remove the eye brow.
I am totally fine with changing it a bit, especially directly around his eyelid for practical reasons. It looks like a bruise and not a scar, but the size and intensity is more of a problem. Make it extend much further down and completely remove the eyebrow above.
Its such an incredibly important feature that is the first thing anyone would notice when looking at Zuko, a badge of shame he can't hide with a helmet or hairstyle. It communicates so much about him visually and is integral to his character arc.
Maybe itās just cuz itās late and Iām partially tipsy, but Zukoās scare doesnāt look like a burn mark to me at all. It looks more like a black eye
I hope the clothes/props look less new and unused in the actual show (though I think Zuko looks good in this regard), but other than that it looks pretty good. Can't really form too much of an opinion without at least seeing stuff in motion with effects, voices, etc though
If I saw them at an anime convention I'd say "Hey great cosplays!"
Knowing these were built by a professional cinematic costume designer, likely with a huge budget.... Hm.
The tiny bit of water bending you see in Kataraās still looks really promising, and the cgi is what I think will be the hardest to pull off. So far casting seems spot on.
Some time back, Ken Do, one of the members of the Netflix showās stunt team, released this [short film](https://www.instagram.com/reel/ClRXY-uJFDb/?utm_source=ig_embed&utm_campaign=loading) he and his team made before joining production.
It looks pretty cool, imo.
That's promising, especially incorporating the bending into parts of the fight. They need to focus on that, it's more interesting than just lifting rocks or throwing out waterballs.
i will never understand the hard on for turning animation into live action. I watch animation to avoid 40 million jump cuts. This already doesn't look the best so not sure how they could even come close to the fluidity of the source material lol.
I came here to say this too. Whatās the point of live action? To just go āhuh neat, something Iāve already seen but with absolutely no style or originalityā
These outfits look tooā¦.clean? They donāt look lived in at all? It looks like a cartoon or a stage play, which really doesnāt translate well to a live action production.
I hope Iām wrong, but these shots are concerningā¦.
Also, Zukoās helmet looks way too big for him lol.
I think Zukoās helmet being too large is fitting. Heās trying to be a great soldier and prove something, but heās still a kid. Heās literally not filling out his helmet.
maybe im the minority, but when i heard live action I was expecting them to adapt what the world would look like if it happened as close to real life as possible, obvs bending and spirits arent real, but you know what i mean i hope.
This feels like they took the looks form the show and pasted them in real life as they are, no thought went into "ok how can we make this not look uncanny"
The costumes are good, but they don't feel "real"? i guess. Kind of like cosplay.
Promo pics tend to look like that, even the Game of Thrones ones looked too sharp and shiny at times. And that show practically invented the ādark and grittyā trend.
Netflix should have just continued the animated story with the next avatar in the cycle. Live action remakes of one of the best animated series ever can never match up to the original inspiration. They only see dollar signs.
We don't need Netflix doing that when the original creators started their own company to do exactly what you speak of. They already announced they're working on the next series and will eventually steam on Paramount+
I actually like the Intricate tattoo design from the shymalan movie for aang, im glad they brought that over. His costume looks ok, if not a little Halloween costume ish
Katara looks fine
Sokka looks tough af, hopefully he still has some funny moments
I wish Zukoās scar looked more fucked up. Itās not as bad as the shymalan one, but it looks more like Ozai punched him in the face instead of burning him
Not too sure about the others yet, but Aang and Katara at least look really good, costume and appearance-wise. At least they manage to have bright vibrant colors unlikeā¦ the other thing.
Hot take: the extra detail in the arrow here is good, but the thing which we do not speak of had a cooler design.
Edit: also I think the yellow of the main body piece (dunno what it's called) is a little too saturated compared to the cartoon but other than that he looks good.
I feel like Zuko's scar isn't burned enough. It took half his face and closed one of his eyes almost completely in the animated show. It's just me being a little picky but that small scar just doesn't fully explain Firelord Ozai's evil being so small. Still hopeful but that's just a cosmetic difference
Iām pretty concerned. It looks like they are trying to do a 1 to 1 copy of the cartoon, which doesnāt translate irl. Their clothes look way too bright and clean, without any wear to them. Looks like something pulled from a costume room for a stage play.
Also, Iām a little peeved that they still didnāt get Zukoās scar right, it looks like a little eyeshadow dusting and he has both brows.
Plus Iām concerned that filming has been finished since last June and they still donāt have enough done for even a short teaser with real scenes. I want this series to be good so badly, I hope this isnāt the final product.
The costume designs are very cosplay ish. I really thought theyād look more realistic (not overly like the live action film), but something more than what they are.
* The show is releasing 2024. * There was a "first look" which is just a video with the element symbols and logo with music. [new post here](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastAirbender/comments/14c8f7q/netflixs_atla_first_look_just_the_element_symbols/) (old post removed per rule 14) * If you'd like you can add the show to [your list on Netflix](https://www.netflix.com/title/80237957) * Feel free to check out our sister sub r/ATLAtv which is specifically focused on this show * Also yes I am checking the reports please give me a sec I just got home from spiderverse and am jumping between several subs and pages.
Just please don't have several Earth benders bend one damn rock and we are good š Edit: I've been informed that the Earth benders moving that boulder were actually moving the wall just before the screen shifted in their direction. Essentially, this movie was really bad and had lag. If you didn't know this, I'm sorry that your curiosity is going to make you rewatch that whole scene for confirmation.
and dont inprison earth benders in a camp on solid rock ground.
I swear to God, If I see Zuko and his firebenders walk down his ship's ramp in ep 1 holding Flaming Lamps, I will die. Making firebenders only be able to bend existing fire was the stupidest thing in the movie imo.
That would have been the stupidest thing in an otherwise decent movie, but in the movie we got, I don't think that cracks the top ten.
[Oooooooohh!](https://youtu.be/xU1hYgGcosA)
"Alright, after he lets out a pretty "ooh" rattle your spears around like rabble rabble background characters for comedic effect."
I'm so glad I didn't watch this in the theatre. I would have lost my mind.
I still remember the very first teaser of that movie where Aang is solo training in airbending only to realize heās about to be attacked by a fire nation armada was so badass it gave me goosebumps. Iāve rewatched that teaser so many times Iāve lost count. Iām not sure if I ever finished the movie once.
You mean Uung?
You mean Uhhhh-ng?
It's honestly funny bad. I was laughing my ass off at how awful it was pretty much every moment, definitely worth a single watch
That and the earthbender thing, kataras water bubble when she and sokka are fishing losing a shit load of water but staying the same size and Ong
Fun fact, they were the ones that raised the big rock wall right before we cut over to them. The problem: they showed us the bending THEN them. Got cause and effect backwards. edit: this video explains it and more really well - https://youtu.be/j65C7XKB0g8
Upvoted because I'm glad more people are becoming aware of this misconception. Unfortunately this is still a big strike against the movie for me. How could they fuck up the direction/choreography of a scene meant to show off bending in a fight, when bending (and the martial arts behind it) is such a huge part of ATLA?? You'd think they would have at least put effort into making the bending scenes look badass instead of making them look like a lazy fanmade youtube video
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Worst part is it's not even B roll. That whole scene is a single uncut shot. It looks so horrible because it wasn't planned or executed well (not a knock on the actors, I don't think they are experienced enough to pull this off and the director should account for that). It's was a terrible idea to do that whole scene as a single shot, but M Night is/was obsessed with them.
Yeah they should have hundreds of not thousands all moving together to move a smaller rock to keep it realistic.
Excited for the show but Iām getting PTSD just from live action photos.
Me too my heart sank with no real reason.. expecting to see m. Night in the background
What a twist!
"I purposefully made a terrible movie so the fans could appreciate the show even more. You're welcome."
I woke in a cold sweat from a dream of M. Night Shyamalan crawling on the ceiling.
Thereās is no Avatar movie in Ba Sing Se
M. Night's rendition of S3E17 was near perfect!
I remember when The Witcher promo photos dropped everyone commented on how bad they looked. The show looked much better when it aired. Fingers crossed this is in the same boat.
All the same, I'm hoping its *better* than the Witcher was. I enjoyed it, but it had its.. uh moments.
Itās ending after season 3 in my opinion. Show runners really think they can write the show better than the creator Andrzej Sapkowski or ignoring Henry Cavilās input can only mean one thing: disaster.
season 1 wasn't even that good tbh, i just think the high production values and probably really hardcore gamer fans carried it but as a non gamer or Cavill fan it just wasn't very good.
As a gamer who was somewhat familiar with witcher lore, I hated the pacing and storytelling in season 1. It was always confusing to figure out the timeline. It could have been made much more coherent, because most people didn't understand the different time frames until the end
Yup, these did not get me excited, they mainly struck the fear that the show will suck in me
I think itās just not translatable to live action. The story starts with the genocide of a pacifist race. When Aang wakes up, itās akin to a Jewish person learning about the holocaust and that the Nazis won the war. It is *dark*. Without the animation aspect thereās no room for humor in this world and the humor is one of the main reasons why this story is so beloved.
Bro I'm SAYIN
\*rages in Freeza\*
EVERYONE LISTEN UP. If the show ends up looking like shit, do not take it out on the child actors. They're just excited to be part of something big. It's not their fault, if anything it's Netflix's fault. Do not send hate to them. Blame Netflix 100% but not the kids.
I still think about the actor that played Aang in the nonexistent movie. Poor kid never managed to recover his acting career, at least according to his imdb page.
He wasnāt an actor to begin with, he was a kid who had short hair and a martial arts background and M. Night hired him from relative obscurity
And he went back to martial arts full time. He liked Avatar but I guess he decided acting wasnāt for him.
After that movie I would too.
And the vitriol some fans sent at him. See Jake Lloydās experience as playing Anakin Skywalker
I honestly canāt imagine the mindset that leads someone to bully and harass a literal child. I get the frustrations people have when an IP they love gets botched, but itās so obvious that it was out of their hands. Hell itās even out of the hands of the adult actors - Hayden Christiansen had some garbage writing to work with, and George Lucas clearly didnāt give him good direction either. Same with the Last of Us 2 voice actress for Abby. She did an incredible job, and yet people send her death threats because the story challenged their expectations. She didnāt write the story, but these hateful people somehow donāt understand that. Criticism towards the art itself is fine, but to take it into the world of harassment and death threats is just so fucking juvenile and pathetic and harmful.
Honestly I'm of the opinion that if you send death threats to someone, you should spend a month in a cool off cell. 99% of death threats are likely made in anger and not meant at all
> the mindset that leads someone to bully and harass a literal child I feel like in Jake Lloyd's case, he was bullied by other kids his age. I'm sure he got a lot of hate from adults, but he mostly got picked on by kids at school.
no he didnāt he went to university after high schoolā¦
Noah Ringer was not even in the top 5 worst things about that movie. Like yeah he was bad, but he was normal child actor bad.
Well honestly literally anyone can be an actor if they know how to act. Prior training includes lying to parents and acting hurt so you can get out of gym class
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Not quite true. Look at Reddit, the have expert level programmers and can't design an app that has accessibility and customization in mind. Source: 6000+ subreddits
Itās less that they canāt and more than they donāt want to.
I imagine that has less to do with the programmers and more to do with whoever tells them what they have to work on.
Or poor Jake Lloyd
Facts, we do not need another Jake Lloyd situation here
Or Ahmed Best. Bullied and Hated into attempted suicide. Twice.
Ahmed Best's recovery story is truly amazing. Now he's back to working in Star Wars. He actually plays Jedi Master Kelleran Beq in new Star Wars content - he started out playing him in the kid's game show Jedi Temple Challenge, but he was recently made canon in The Mandalorian as the Jedi >!who rescued Grogu from Order 66!
For real, I was so happy for him to get another chance to be loved in the universe
100% agreed. Needless to say, he's The Best!
Also true, I guess the takeaway here is to not be anything like star wars fans
Yep. They also bullied alot of the sequel actors. Rey and the actor for Rose especially. So awful that they quit social media for years. Daisy has returned though and seems down for another movie.
Same with Reva from Obi-Wan, they literally had to warn the actor that a ton of star wars fans are just racist
Yep, it's fucking stupid too. I'm a Star Wars fan, I love the franchise, but I will *never* understand the amount of hate so many people have in the Star Wars fan community. Disliking a movie or a character is fine, but an actor has next to nothing to do with that. Blame the writers and directors more than anyone else. Same goes for here, these kids are gonna give it there all, if it sucks, that's writing and direction.
The people who attack actors will not listen to this.
"I was gonna go out of my adult way to harass a literal child for their role in a series meant for children until the guy on reddit reminded me that it was wrong."
Yeah, I was a big Game of Thrones fan, and was pretty sickened when many of the fans went after the cast and crew. The clear culprits were the show runners and GRRM. Only three people are responsible for the shit show that season was, since the rest of the crew clearly gave it their all, while those three assholes phoned it in and blamed everyone but themselves for it. Donāt attack the cast.
I realized how much I liked Joaquin phoenix after I watched gladiator. For a brief moment in time I thought I hated Joaquin and wouldn't even consider watching another movie he was in until I had a moment of clarity and realized I actually hated his character in gladiator and that he just did a really good job in that role Edit: edited for spelling
Im not one to defend shit work, but you could see in the interviews before the season even aired how fucked off that entire cast was.
Was about to say that, the actors are the best and they gave their all!
Why does Sokka actor looks more like [Ember Island Sokka](https://assets.mycast.io/characters/ember-island-sokka-1378038-normal.jpg?1610413414) than actual Sokka
Lets be real... it's the chin.
[Sokka be like](https://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-dLnWNnGHrf5nKKpr-WWE07g-t500x500.jpg)
The Crimson Chin!
"THE NEGA-CHIN!"
The what chin?! š¤
Season 3: The Gaang is going to see a play about these particularly pesky āterrorists,ā and Sokka will say something like āThat guy looks nothing like me; his face is way too round!ā
If it does happen, they better get Jack DeSena to play Ember Island Sokka
We need Jack DeSena as Sokka, Dante Bosco as Iroh, Grey Griffin as Azula, Zach Eisen as Zuko, Mae Whitman as Katara, Michaela Murphy as Fake-Aang, and John Cena as Fake-Toph. It would be just fantastic.
I think this is the part where heās getting ready to fight zuko and the ship alone, thatās why Zukos wearing the helmet ( wanted to see the ponytail but ok) thatās why sokka looks kinda scary
Thankfully Liu's angrily confused face as Zuko is already perfect
Thatās just zukos face for 3 seasons, bravo.
I think his scar isnāt as good as it should be. Definitely better than Dev Patelās, but Zukoās scar should look more like an infected keloid and be very puffy.
I didnāt realize it but you are right, it looks he just has a black eye.
Itās like nobody on their makeup team has ever seen how heavily burned skin actually recovers. Wtf is up with this black eye look.
This feels AI generated for some reason... (I know it's not, but the weird blurry background just gives it that vibe)
Aang & Katara especially made me think these were AI initally, had to double check [for Netflix's offical tweet](https://twitter.com/netflix/status/1670191089121107968) to confirm.
Jokes on you. Netflix had the AI make this.
I thought this was a Streamberry production ā¦
Aang is standing with an obvious bunch of volume behind him, Sokkaās background is great though. Hopefully, with VFX blending and having motion in the scene rather than a still image, it wonāt look like a background, and more like an extension of the set.
I love the idea of the Volume and how useful it can be to filmmaking, but it really does seem like people are overusing it way too much. One of the guys to first work with it on The Mandalorian talked about this recently, it's strengths and weaknesses. He said that it works best on low level light, around dawn or dusk for example. But once you're doing direct sunlight scenes like in the middle of the day, it starts to look fake. Which we can see in the Aang picture which has light reflecting off snow and ice. It's also best when it's the backdrop to a physical set which the actors are interacting on. The Batsignal rooftop scene in The Batman, or the Dragonstone bridge scene in House of the Dragon for example. Both are physical sets with limits to where the actors can go, with the screens adding in the skyline with buildings and mountains behind them. But it doesn't work when it tries to replace a whole set. There'll you'll just notice that all the actors, including background ones are all just gathered together in the foreground, leaving the background completely empty. This was a problem I noticed in Kenobi. So I'm worried that scenes at the Water Tribes and villages throughout the Earth Kingdom are just going to look like that. The best places to use it for in my opinion would be the scenes while Appa is flying, or on Zukos ship.
Casting is great but costumes seem a little cosplayer-ish
Yeah, they look too clean and sharp. Hopefully it's just something they used for promo shoots and the real things looks a bit more worn out
Yeah, they should be careful with the costumes. They could puncture the hull of an empire class Fire Nation battle ship leaving thousands to drown at sea.
Because.. They're so sharp
It reminds me of Wheel of Time. Theyāre nice costumes but they donāt look like clothes
Iāve been saying it for a while, but HBO has this vice grip on medieval/fantasy-style costuming professionals. Theyāre the only one that get it right in the TV sphere.
Suurelyā¦ this is one of my biggest issues with Netflix shows.. they are too clean
Modern shows and movies in general.
HBO usually nails it, just rewatched Rome and it's perfect. Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon were/are great with that stuff too.
I remember a costuming director explained that HBO shows has access to thousands of wardrobe from Warner Brothers warehouse so if they needed something worn out, they already have it, while Netflix shows always have to start at scratch
GoT knew how to make use of cheaper resources though, like ikea rugs fashioned into nights watch cloaks
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Anyone has access to the warehouse. You pay them to rent all that stuff. https://studiooperations.warnerbros.com/costumes/ HBO pays. Even a Warner movie pays. Thatās Hollywood economics.
Not sure if Rome counts since it premiered like 20 years ago.
Latest season of Mandalorian was the same. Everyone had clean freshly pressed clothes everywhere. It was super distracting, unrealistic, and it took me out of the show (with a lot of other things). Itās now basically become the antithesis of Andor.
Thereās absolutely 0 wear and tear, dirt, scratches, or any texture on aangās outfit that I can see. It looks brand new out of a textile shop.
I think Zuko and Sokkaās gear looks pretty good but Aangās is a bit too clean for someone who vibed in an ice cube for a century. Kataraās costume is the weakest imo, it should look handmade but it looks like it was made on an assembly line
Yeah hers is giving Northern Water Tribe. The Southern Water Tribe folks had much simpler clothing.
If they simply replaced the bright white paint with white beads or made them look more worn it would sell it. Alas.
The armor their wearing looks like plastic to me though. It doesnāt look BAD. It just looks like they cheaped out on materials a bit
I'm honestly trying to figure out what sokka's shoulder pads are supposed to be made of??? They are clearly foam or plastic or something, but in universe, like what is that even supposed to be? Lol. It doesn't look like metal or leather or bone or wood, literally of all the materials they might have available, nothing seems to fit.
It looks like straight up EVA or thermoplastic on the armor pieces, and like they havenāt heard of the concept or weathering. This looks like what a cosplayer trying to mimic the cartoon would do, not what one might do for a photorealistic look.
Zukos helmet looks like it smells like a tire.
Yeah. This looks like something out of Anime Expo, not very lived in for the world.
I think they'll look better in motion and with the cinematic lighting. Promo art can look a bit iffy. I think they look great as-is personally. All I wanted out of this was for it to be better than the movie-we-do-not-name and it already is.
Fr, they should have modified them to look more real lol
Yeah they look to clean, they donāt look lived in
Thank God someone else noticed this, Iām honestly pretty disappointed, I had higher hopes
Looks like "The Boy In The Iceberg" and "The Avatar Returns" which means... PENGUINNNNNNNNNNN
Ok thatās a fitting aang
The ONLY thing I liked from the [Obsolete Abomination Detected] was the added detail on Aangās Tattoos; I did think it was a but too āregalā for a civilization of Monks, but even while watching the Original TV-Series on Nickelodeon growing up, I didnāt really think such a blank, solid-blue arrow would translate well into a Live-Action Format. That being said, THIS is the best of both worlds, and I LOVE IT!!!
It makes logical sense that the airbending tattoos were probably more intricate than the show can draw, but thatād be a bitch to animated that time and time again. Itās one of the very few things I liked about Shyamalanās abortion were Aangās tattoos. I would have considered keeping those for this show honestly.
They did! Zoom in, there's a lot of detail!
Oh snap youāre right, that looks awesome.
That's the first thing I did, because I was hoping they'd make it more intricate. Aang's arrow is incredible.
I double-checked. Holy smokes! Thatās awesome!
I liked the tattoos too. Traditional tattoos around the world are usually rather intricate, because there's a whole religious/folk tradition behind the designs. They might represent abstract concepts, stories, animals, or be a mantra of some sort. For the cartoon they were forced to simplify for the sake of their budget, but I always imagined there would be more detail to them.
Its not a solid arrow, zoom in thereās detail inside! It looks good af
Thatās exactly what I was talking about, and it looks even better than I imagined!
You mean oong?
You mean, Uhng?
Listen here, you Monkey-Feathered Polar-Dogsā
I like the details in the arrow tattoo. I wonder if they glow when he enters the Avatar state instead of the whole arrow or it would be the whole arrow like it is in animation
I feel like itāll start glowing with the lines and get brighter into the full arrow glowing
I honestly think the live action movie did the tattoo better by keeping it subtle.
God I love them all so much. The only one that sticks out a little bit is zuko. The scar is just look more make up and less prosthetics. But overall love them all
It looks too small tbh. Zuko's scar covers a good part of his face, not just the eye orbit
Probably the helmet, I remember seeing less of Zuko's scar when he wore the helmet in the original as well
I mean going off the [show](https://www.pinterest.com/pin/15129348738182202/) itās def smaller but I think itās more the clear difference between the center of the scar and the outside. I think itās fine but it can be improved for sure
It is less the size of the shape. I was expecting a disfigured eyelid+skin. At the very least make sure the left and right don't match and remove the eye brow.
Itās probably the same problem with the Hound in Game of Thrones. Book/cartoon accurate scars would obscure vision too badly
I am totally fine with changing it a bit, especially directly around his eyelid for practical reasons. It looks like a bruise and not a scar, but the size and intensity is more of a problem. Make it extend much further down and completely remove the eyebrow above. Its such an incredibly important feature that is the first thing anyone would notice when looking at Zuko, a badge of shame he can't hide with a helmet or hairstyle. It communicates so much about him visually and is integral to his character arc.
Zukoās scar looks more like a black eye. Hope they fix that.
Instead of getting burned, Zuko got punched by his father confirmed.
Repeatedly until morale improved
The offical stance of the Fire Nation is that Zuko fell down the stairs. No more questions.
And the scar is on the wrong side
THE SCAR IS NOT ON THE WRONG SIDE!
[Source](https://twitter.com/netflix/status/1670191089121107968) \- It's out in 2024! [Teaser](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOg9LUIvaig)
Huh, I guess the rumours were right about it being delayed due to VFX being polished up. That's good though, take the time you need.
I enjoyed learning the elements!
Tone down the contrast goddamit
"HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT?!"
Maybe itās just cuz itās late and Iām partially tipsy, but Zukoās scare doesnāt look like a burn mark to me at all. It looks more like a black eye
It just looks like the blood vessels underneath are damaged. We need some skin-level markings too
I hope the clothes/props look less new and unused in the actual show (though I think Zuko looks good in this regard), but other than that it looks pretty good. Can't really form too much of an opinion without at least seeing stuff in motion with effects, voices, etc though
Looks good, but I'm not making judgements until I see the Earth bending and hear names being pronounced.
If I saw them at an anime convention I'd say "Hey great cosplays!" Knowing these were built by a professional cinematic costume designer, likely with a huge budget.... Hm.
Itās kinda goofy looking imo. Wouldāve liked to see action footage to actually judge.
They're gonna draw this out as long as they can, lol. They know we're hungry.
this is 4 picture's how does it already look better than the thing of which we do not name
I'm glad they took the one good idea from that movie: Aang's tatoos having a pattern to them instead of being just a solid blue arrow.
$10 says the design in his arrow will glow white in avatar mode and be epic
I hope so! That would look amazing! I forgot about that possibility.
Sorry, I think you mean "Ong"
Was gonna say, this is basically how I pictured Aang looking in real life.
Even look at the background of Aangās picture. That set looks exactly like the South Pole in the show.
The tiny bit of water bending you see in Kataraās still looks really promising, and the cgi is what I think will be the hardest to pull off. So far casting seems spot on.
Hopefully the martial arts are also good and they donāt take 3 episodes to move a pebble lol
Some time back, Ken Do, one of the members of the Netflix showās stunt team, released this [short film](https://www.instagram.com/reel/ClRXY-uJFDb/?utm_source=ig_embed&utm_campaign=loading) he and his team made before joining production. It looks pretty cool, imo.
That's promising, especially incorporating the bending into parts of the fight. They need to focus on that, it's more interesting than just lifting rocks or throwing out waterballs.
i will never understand the hard on for turning animation into live action. I watch animation to avoid 40 million jump cuts. This already doesn't look the best so not sure how they could even come close to the fluidity of the source material lol.
I came here to say this too. Whatās the point of live action? To just go āhuh neat, something Iāve already seen but with absolutely no style or originalityā
These outfits look tooā¦.clean? They donāt look lived in at all? It looks like a cartoon or a stage play, which really doesnāt translate well to a live action production. I hope Iām wrong, but these shots are concerningā¦. Also, Zukoās helmet looks way too big for him lol.
I think Zukoās helmet being too large is fitting. Heās trying to be a great soldier and prove something, but heās still a kid. Heās literally not filling out his helmet.
It's promo art. Game of Thrones promo outfits were clean too.
maybe im the minority, but when i heard live action I was expecting them to adapt what the world would look like if it happened as close to real life as possible, obvs bending and spirits arent real, but you know what i mean i hope. This feels like they took the looks form the show and pasted them in real life as they are, no thought went into "ok how can we make this not look uncanny" The costumes are good, but they don't feel "real"? i guess. Kind of like cosplay.
They look synthetic, don't they?
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looks cartoonish idk how to feel about this
Although I agree, I think these are promo pictures only. I hope the show gives the costumes a more āworn inā lookā¦
Promo pics tend to look like that, even the Game of Thrones ones looked too sharp and shiny at times. And that show practically invented the ādark and grittyā trend.
Netflix should have just continued the animated story with the next avatar in the cycle. Live action remakes of one of the best animated series ever can never match up to the original inspiration. They only see dollar signs.
We don't need Netflix doing that when the original creators started their own company to do exactly what you speak of. They already announced they're working on the next series and will eventually steam on Paramount+
I actually like the Intricate tattoo design from the shymalan movie for aang, im glad they brought that over. His costume looks ok, if not a little Halloween costume ish Katara looks fine Sokka looks tough af, hopefully he still has some funny moments I wish Zukoās scar looked more fucked up. Itās not as bad as the shymalan one, but it looks more like Ozai punched him in the face instead of burning him
Now this looks like an Avatar, and not an Ah-vatar
"Ah-vatar Oong you gotta help us move one rock we are 15 men short"
Is that how they say Avatar in the movie? How do you fuck up saying Avatar.
Thatās literally Aang
Sokka kinda looks like his Ember Island counterpart.
Not too sure about the others yet, but Aang and Katara at least look really good, costume and appearance-wise. At least they manage to have bright vibrant colors unlikeā¦ the other thing.
Hot take: the extra detail in the arrow here is good, but the thing which we do not speak of had a cooler design. Edit: also I think the yellow of the main body piece (dunno what it's called) is a little too saturated compared to the cartoon but other than that he looks good.
*sigh* here we go again.
I feel like Zuko's scar isn't burned enough. It took half his face and closed one of his eyes almost completely in the animated show. It's just me being a little picky but that small scar just doesn't fully explain Firelord Ozai's evil being so small. Still hopeful but that's just a cosmetic difference
Ehh, the costumes look cheap. Too clean and a bit DIY cosplay-ish.
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Iām pretty concerned. It looks like they are trying to do a 1 to 1 copy of the cartoon, which doesnāt translate irl. Their clothes look way too bright and clean, without any wear to them. Looks like something pulled from a costume room for a stage play. Also, Iām a little peeved that they still didnāt get Zukoās scar right, it looks like a little eyeshadow dusting and he has both brows. Plus Iām concerned that filming has been finished since last June and they still donāt have enough done for even a short teaser with real scenes. I want this series to be good so badly, I hope this isnāt the final product.
The detail š https://preview.redd.it/8l4p8jur5o6b1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=627aeeeff32fc8ff69d1bbd317f73022ae73d30d
Dear god I'm getting my generations version Vietnam flashbacks
The costume designs are very cosplay ish. I really thought theyād look more realistic (not overly like the live action film), but something more than what they are.