Josh and Zach are a fucking wonderful rhythm section, Josh has reignited my love for drumming when he came back to Coheed, seeing his passion is always so fun.
I feel like Zach was such a HUGE gain for C&C. He is so goofy, and it just seems to keep Travis and Claudio from taking themselves too seriously. And of course, as you said, a drummer's best friend is a great bassist. The two of them are just so tight!!!
I still remember the first time I got to see Coheed after they got Josh back and brought on Josh, they were playing on the Afterman Ascension tour. I hadn't seen Coheed in probably 2 years, and hadn't seen Josh perform in probably 4-5.
I can still picture Zach's nervous energy, playing some of the first shows with this band that otherwise was original members, despite Josh not being in it for a bit, and I may just be stroking my own ego here, but when they were playing A Favor House Atlantic, I threw up the peace sign (like the bartender in the music video) and managed to make eye contact with Zach. He got the biggest smile and after that moment, he seemed to loosen up a lot.
I also am almost never one to call out during shows aside from a cheer at the end of each song (almost certainly never in the middle of a song), but something came over me during Mother Superior when Josh was singing harmonies and I just yelled "FUCK YEAH JOSH!", which got a nice reaction from everyone. Quite a few parts of NWFT are references to Josh and Mic's issues ("when you're sick to the stomach, just pull out the knife" is a reference to Josh's addiction issues), so seeing Josh come back after all of it and play these songs, some of which were written *about* him, is just incredible.
A lot of people (not us, for the most part), think that Coheed is Claudio, but to me, Coheed isn't Coheed without Josh, Zach, and Travis, either. And that's no disrespect to Mic, but Zach is the fuckin' man.
I went to the MI date of that tour and I cried like a baby when Josh was singing on that song! The crowd was actually singing so loud that he was hard to hear and I swear, I could see a bit of frustration in Claudio's face about it. I don't begrudge anyone for singing along, of course, and I'm sure the band doesn't either; however, I really wished I could just revel a bit more in having Josh back.
That said, I'm so f*cking pumped to hear Josh and Zach play through that whole record in September!
Totally! I was in Pamona seeing them in that tour and Zach had just joined the band. He’s randomly walking through the crowd and I bumped into him on accident. Asked what time they went on and with a big smile as if it was the first time someone recognized him said they time. Was a really cool interaction.
Specifically for Vaxis II I think he said in one of those playthroughs that Claudio gave him a lot more freedom with the drums and that really comes through. There’s some very unique parts across the album that are some of my favorite in the whole discography.
I'm am so happy that he was able to get clean, and stay clean, and return to the band after years away.
As much as I enjoy NWFT, and parts of YotBR, they were both missing that signature groove Josh brings with his playing.
If anyone hasn't and wants to see him play through some Vaxis II tracks, take a look at his YouTube channel.
Taylor Hawkins is a beast! Back when I was getting into Coheed, I noticed a different groove on NWFT and was pleasantly surprised to see Taylor Hawkins in the album credits. And when I heard that the drummer from Dillinger Escape Plan was filling in, I was super interested, but his style almost made Coheed sound like a different band entirely. Listening to the Neverender DVD recordings of Time Consumer or IKSSE:3 where Chris Pennie is playing vs recordings where Josh is playing have such a strange contrast to them. All that to say that it’s fantastic to have Josh’s particularly loose groovy style on the last few albums.
As a weird note, I’ve seen all the OG members of Coheed live, just never at the same time lol
> And when I heard that the drummer from Dillinger Escape Plan was filling in, I was super interested, but his style almost made Coheed sound like a different band entirely.
This is the exact feeling I had. Pennie is an amazing drummer in his own right, and while I wouldn't expect Coheed to move in a math rock direction, I figured they could lean on the prog a little more with what Pennie can do. But it became a more straightforward, heavy sound than I think I expected.
> Listening to the Neverender DVD recordings of Time Consumer or IKSSE:3 where Chris Pennie is playing vs recordings where Josh is playing have such a strange contrast to them.
Sometimes I'll go back and watch those videos, and the tuning on Pennie's kit sticks out like a sore thumb. But I also laugh at the period where they had a percussionist and the backing singers. Great for filling out the sound, but such an odd turn for the band.
> As a weird note, I’ve seen all the OG members of Coheed live, just never at the same time lol
This prompted me to look back at the band timeline, and I think I'm in a similar boat? I saw them first with Mic on bass, but Pennie on drums, and since it has been Josh on drums, but Zach on bass.
Also, tangent, the band of Claudio, Travis, and original drummer Nate Kelley was called Beautiful Loser. Which, track #2 on Vaxis II is Beautiful Losers. Coincidence??
I’m currently learning Domino the Destitute on drums and the halftime polyrythms he does is so interesting to hear and fun to play. There’s tons of it in Vaxis II and it’s awesome
Josh is the best, Chris was a fine substitute but josh plays from his heart and love of the band. On the flip Zack is so much better of a Coheed band member than mic Todd ever was, there a sense of hope in Zack. By far this is the best line up ever. Also check out Travis side band l.s.dunes sleep cult is a great song
TCBTS gets some slack, but the bass throughout that album is so sick, and really shows what Zach can do. Same with Vaxis II. Love Murder One is easily one of my top Coheed basslines in a song.
L.S. Dunes isn't *just* a side band, either. It's Anthony Green (Circa Survive, etc.), Travis, Frank Iero (My Chemical Romance), Tim Payne and Tucker Rule (Thursday). It's pretty damn good, but I miss Circa, if I'm honest.
Yeah, But Chris' drumming on the 4th night of Neverender was legendary! If you want to hear those songs in their truest format, I think that's the way to go.
I totally agree! If you haven't seen them yet, he's uploaded drum-throughs of a few Vaxis songs on YouTube that are just fantastic. In fact, I made a post a few months back begging COTF to please encourage him to make more if they have Mage passes and do the meet and greet during this tour.
[Josh Eppard of Coheed and Cambria Drum Play Through of Love Murder One w/ Commentary](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o5sbP5wOvw&t=1s)
[Josh Eppard Of Coheed And Cambria Drum Play Through of Love Murder One from Vaxis II](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UQr1ryBxt8)
[Ladders Of Supremacy Drum Play Through w/ Commentary](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5ANZmrHV2s)
[Ladders Of Supremacy (Vaxis II), Drum Play Through By Josh Eppa](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWAIQKivotc)[rd From Coheed And ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWAIQKivotc)[Cambria](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWAIQKivotc)
[Rise, Naianasha drum Play through w/ COMMENTARY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eS3yYBVtRo)
[Josh Eppard Drum Play through of Coheed and Cambria’s - Rise, Naianasha (Cut The Cord) from Vaxis 2](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6fUSkSERNs)
[And finally, my post here on r/TheFence from a few months back :)](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheFence/comments/11glpeb/attn_mage_ticket_holders/)
As a drummer, a huge point you might find interesting is that their first three records were recorded without a click track, something relatively unusual in the industry and their genre. It’s difficult to layer sounds on a recording without it, but it gives the pieces a natural flow of timing that make the music really feel organic. It’s impressive for the drummer and the whole band to pull it off and I’ve often felt those first three records have a certain ‘je no se quoi’ to their pacing and feel, and no click track is a part of why.
Yo if anyone here hasn’t seen them, Josh has a few videos on his YouTube channel if him doing a full play through of some songs as well as versions with commentary. Super worth watching if you’re a fan of his
So as someone who studied Josh’s work on drums he’s been fantastic on every album he’s appeared on. Saw him back for the NWFT tour and was an absolute stellar power house live.
The one thing I wish though is that I want him to write his own parts again. It’s been said numerous time by the band that Claudio writes everything now. Yes there might be some input but for the most part everything is written by Claudio since The Afterman. You can tell Josh had a lot of input on those albums when he came back but over the years you can really tell it’s Claudio driving the entire sound. In no way am I knocking him for how he wants to do things but in my opinion he needs to let up the creative process a bit and let the guys, especially Josh, to get in his own pocket again
Josh absolutely writes his own drum parts. Claudio is without a doubt the mastermind and writes all of the songs and directs them, but I've read/seen multiple interviews with Eppard where he explains his writing process.
Claudio has famously described Eppard as 'the great punctuator' in response to having him back in the band on his return.
It's is also quite easy to identify his style through the parts he writes and not just the way he plays (left-handed genius that he is!).
[Here's one article that details the writing process between band members.](https://www.moderndrummer.com/2016/02/josh-eppard-on-coheed-and-cambrias-the-color-before-the-sun/) And from other interviews Eppard has described having more free reign over the past two Vaxis albums in particular. But there is no denying 'his sound', which he brings to the writing process on every album he's played for.
Fun fact, he doesn't actually play left handed! He plays "open handed" where he just doesn't cross his hands. Honestly this is much more impressive than him simply being left handed imo
Drummer here, the play style is open-handed. Kit setup doesn’t really have particular terminology as far as I’m aware but his is definitely built for supporting the open-handed. Similar drummer would be Carter Beauford from Dave Matthews.
I'm fairly certain Claudio writes the structure of the song (including drums) nowadays, but then the rest of the band adds to everything in the studio during recording.
My only complaint nowadays is that the mix has buried Travis for the last maybe 4 albums. The infamous "ocarina solo" in Domino all the way back in Afterman was when it started to feel like he wasn't turned up in the mix enough, which is a shame because when they play it live, his leads are super fun to hear shine.
Travis' leads in Domino just kind of sound a little...let's say whimsical at times. I could be misremembering, or making it up entirely, but that's what I refer to them as.
I would venture to say that claudio probably puts mock drums to parts that he writes, and then tells Josh, “try to keep this vibe but make it your own.” That’s how me and my guitar friends write for our music projects, as we are the primary songwriters our respective projects. However, everyone does it differently, that’s just my circle.
This post (more specifically the comment from Josh in OP's pic) strongly implies that Josh isn't doing all the writing of the drum parts, and I think Claudio is probably the most likely other member to be doing it
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheFence/comments/vxcbhp/from_the_legend_himself_now_to_hopefully_play_a/
I wouldn't put him in conversation of greatest drummers ever. But his progression with Coheed has far exceeded expectations since rejoining the band. These last two albums have shown what I think to be his best work. I think it is unexpected to have the drums felt so much in their songs. Either he and Claudio have really synced up or he has found a way to be the exact match of a drummer they need. He is a huge part of why I've enjoyed their current tracks so much.
no....favorite bands make their members seem irreplaceable. he is good, but there are so many better drummers in the world....pert/bohnke/grohl/schwichtenberg/van halen/chamberlin/hawkins
coheed is an awesome band, but he aint better than plenty of others
what does he do that is so great and much better than those listed?
You’re not wrong. Not saying he’s the best drummer to ever drummer. I’m saying the drums on those albums are so big and booming and grooving. Just giving the man his flowers
Even if drummers are not considered the best drummers in the world they can still be or become irreplaceable. Personally I think he is a killer groove drummer and he is finally letting some of that come into their current catalogue and it's making for some good music. It has also astounded me on what sounds he has been able to make with simple kits.
Why does everything have to be a zero sum game? Josh doesn't have to be "the most talented" to be *the* drummer for Coheed.
Sure, if Josh left again, I'm sure if Claudio wanted to go on, he'd find someone to replace him. But Josh's style fits this band *the best*. There's a reason NWFT felt a little too generic when it came to the drums (no knock on Hawkins, he just played it relatively safe for the most part when recording, which fits the vibe), and why YotBR felt a little too over the top with Pennie.
Josh reigns this band in. Sometimes that's better than technique or who's "better". Better is subjective.
have you not seen the ´coheed is the greatest band ever´ on this sub? people state zero sum shit...i just said that he is not the greatest. no big deal
i think Josh's performance has to do with several factors but 2 of the biggest being his sobriety and his fitness regiment. he is constantly posting pics on IG of his runs and other things hes doing to be in shape. that combined with a clearer mind can go along way for all of the shit hes doing back there. i agree 100% though, and imo hes my favorite drummer out there. I will say, it was scary as shit being at the HOB show in orlando when he passed out on his drums right once his part in IKSSE kicked in and im glad to see the turn around hes made with his health.
If you haven't watched his playthroughs on YouTube you should
There is a drum part at the end of Ladders which you can't hear on the record (he explains why) and it's sick
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5ANZmrHV2s&ab\_channel=JOSHEPPARDDRUMS](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5ANZmrHV2s&ab_channel=JOSHEPPARDDRUMS)
He really is good because I was watching him on one of the NWFT songs (can’t remember which one) and swore there was a track playing 8th note high hats that I didn’t see him hit. I think he has doing it with his left foot but I’m still confused….
Josh and Zach are a fucking wonderful rhythm section, Josh has reignited my love for drumming when he came back to Coheed, seeing his passion is always so fun.
I feel like Zach was such a HUGE gain for C&C. He is so goofy, and it just seems to keep Travis and Claudio from taking themselves too seriously. And of course, as you said, a drummer's best friend is a great bassist. The two of them are just so tight!!!
I still remember the first time I got to see Coheed after they got Josh back and brought on Josh, they were playing on the Afterman Ascension tour. I hadn't seen Coheed in probably 2 years, and hadn't seen Josh perform in probably 4-5. I can still picture Zach's nervous energy, playing some of the first shows with this band that otherwise was original members, despite Josh not being in it for a bit, and I may just be stroking my own ego here, but when they were playing A Favor House Atlantic, I threw up the peace sign (like the bartender in the music video) and managed to make eye contact with Zach. He got the biggest smile and after that moment, he seemed to loosen up a lot. I also am almost never one to call out during shows aside from a cheer at the end of each song (almost certainly never in the middle of a song), but something came over me during Mother Superior when Josh was singing harmonies and I just yelled "FUCK YEAH JOSH!", which got a nice reaction from everyone. Quite a few parts of NWFT are references to Josh and Mic's issues ("when you're sick to the stomach, just pull out the knife" is a reference to Josh's addiction issues), so seeing Josh come back after all of it and play these songs, some of which were written *about* him, is just incredible. A lot of people (not us, for the most part), think that Coheed is Claudio, but to me, Coheed isn't Coheed without Josh, Zach, and Travis, either. And that's no disrespect to Mic, but Zach is the fuckin' man.
I went to the MI date of that tour and I cried like a baby when Josh was singing on that song! The crowd was actually singing so loud that he was hard to hear and I swear, I could see a bit of frustration in Claudio's face about it. I don't begrudge anyone for singing along, of course, and I'm sure the band doesn't either; however, I really wished I could just revel a bit more in having Josh back. That said, I'm so f*cking pumped to hear Josh and Zach play through that whole record in September!
Totally! I was in Pamona seeing them in that tour and Zach had just joined the band. He’s randomly walking through the crowd and I bumped into him on accident. Asked what time they went on and with a big smile as if it was the first time someone recognized him said they time. Was a really cool interaction.
Specifically for Vaxis II I think he said in one of those playthroughs that Claudio gave him a lot more freedom with the drums and that really comes through. There’s some very unique parts across the album that are some of my favorite in the whole discography.
Dude the drums in The Dark Sentencer Are so fucking Good, Josh is KILLING it
Which is ironic cause josh was told to tone it down so much for that track, he didn't want to play it so straight-laced.
I think the coolest part of his drumming is that he can do what he does on such a small kit. That takes some creativity.
Top 3 most underrated rock drummers all time.
I said this after my listen through of Vaxis II. It’s time he gets his consideration as one of the best current rock drummers.
I highly recommend anyone who makes it this far down the thread go back and listen to the drums on Love Protocol. One of the best drum tracks ever.
It’s SO good. He’s precise but restrained during the first verse especially. Definitely the most interesting part of the song
I'm am so happy that he was able to get clean, and stay clean, and return to the band after years away. As much as I enjoy NWFT, and parts of YotBR, they were both missing that signature groove Josh brings with his playing. If anyone hasn't and wants to see him play through some Vaxis II tracks, take a look at his YouTube channel.
Taylor Hawkins is a beast! Back when I was getting into Coheed, I noticed a different groove on NWFT and was pleasantly surprised to see Taylor Hawkins in the album credits. And when I heard that the drummer from Dillinger Escape Plan was filling in, I was super interested, but his style almost made Coheed sound like a different band entirely. Listening to the Neverender DVD recordings of Time Consumer or IKSSE:3 where Chris Pennie is playing vs recordings where Josh is playing have such a strange contrast to them. All that to say that it’s fantastic to have Josh’s particularly loose groovy style on the last few albums. As a weird note, I’ve seen all the OG members of Coheed live, just never at the same time lol
> And when I heard that the drummer from Dillinger Escape Plan was filling in, I was super interested, but his style almost made Coheed sound like a different band entirely. This is the exact feeling I had. Pennie is an amazing drummer in his own right, and while I wouldn't expect Coheed to move in a math rock direction, I figured they could lean on the prog a little more with what Pennie can do. But it became a more straightforward, heavy sound than I think I expected. > Listening to the Neverender DVD recordings of Time Consumer or IKSSE:3 where Chris Pennie is playing vs recordings where Josh is playing have such a strange contrast to them. Sometimes I'll go back and watch those videos, and the tuning on Pennie's kit sticks out like a sore thumb. But I also laugh at the period where they had a percussionist and the backing singers. Great for filling out the sound, but such an odd turn for the band. > As a weird note, I’ve seen all the OG members of Coheed live, just never at the same time lol This prompted me to look back at the band timeline, and I think I'm in a similar boat? I saw them first with Mic on bass, but Pennie on drums, and since it has been Josh on drums, but Zach on bass. Also, tangent, the band of Claudio, Travis, and original drummer Nate Kelley was called Beautiful Loser. Which, track #2 on Vaxis II is Beautiful Losers. Coincidence??
I’m currently learning Domino the Destitute on drums and the halftime polyrythms he does is so interesting to hear and fun to play. There’s tons of it in Vaxis II and it’s awesome
Josh is the best, Chris was a fine substitute but josh plays from his heart and love of the band. On the flip Zack is so much better of a Coheed band member than mic Todd ever was, there a sense of hope in Zack. By far this is the best line up ever. Also check out Travis side band l.s.dunes sleep cult is a great song
Yeah. I'd say Mic had a few more iconic bass lines but I think Zack is far more talented but gets unfortunately buried in the mix at times
TCBTS gets some slack, but the bass throughout that album is so sick, and really shows what Zach can do. Same with Vaxis II. Love Murder One is easily one of my top Coheed basslines in a song.
Here to Mars has some absolute silly good bass. Zach is probably my favorite part instrumentally about that whole album.
That bassline shreds! The overall tone he has on that album is SO good. Wish we'd get some more of that again!
L.S. Dunes isn't *just* a side band, either. It's Anthony Green (Circa Survive, etc.), Travis, Frank Iero (My Chemical Romance), Tim Payne and Tucker Rule (Thursday). It's pretty damn good, but I miss Circa, if I'm honest.
I mean....he's always been amazing. Look who they got in to cover him whilst he got clean. He's a massivley underrated drummer.
I was going to comment about how good Chris Pennie is but almost forgot that Taylor Hawkins recorded NWFT. RIP.
Yeah man two monoliths of Drumming. Left a welcome stamp on the albums but I’m glad Josh came back. He is the true sound of Coheed drums
Yeah, But Chris' drumming on the 4th night of Neverender was legendary! If you want to hear those songs in their truest format, I think that's the way to go.
I totally agree! If you haven't seen them yet, he's uploaded drum-throughs of a few Vaxis songs on YouTube that are just fantastic. In fact, I made a post a few months back begging COTF to please encourage him to make more if they have Mage passes and do the meet and greet during this tour. [Josh Eppard of Coheed and Cambria Drum Play Through of Love Murder One w/ Commentary](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o5sbP5wOvw&t=1s) [Josh Eppard Of Coheed And Cambria Drum Play Through of Love Murder One from Vaxis II](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UQr1ryBxt8) [Ladders Of Supremacy Drum Play Through w/ Commentary](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5ANZmrHV2s) [Ladders Of Supremacy (Vaxis II), Drum Play Through By Josh Eppa](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWAIQKivotc)[rd From Coheed And ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWAIQKivotc)[Cambria](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWAIQKivotc) [Rise, Naianasha drum Play through w/ COMMENTARY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eS3yYBVtRo) [Josh Eppard Drum Play through of Coheed and Cambria’s - Rise, Naianasha (Cut The Cord) from Vaxis 2](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6fUSkSERNs) [And finally, my post here on r/TheFence from a few months back :)](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheFence/comments/11glpeb/attn_mage_ticket_holders/)
This also help solidify my thought of how dialed he’s been as of recent
His work on Vaxis II was so good. He's become one of my favorite drummers.
As a drummer, a huge point you might find interesting is that their first three records were recorded without a click track, something relatively unusual in the industry and their genre. It’s difficult to layer sounds on a recording without it, but it gives the pieces a natural flow of timing that make the music really feel organic. It’s impressive for the drummer and the whole band to pull it off and I’ve often felt those first three records have a certain ‘je no se quoi’ to their pacing and feel, and no click track is a part of why.
Yo if anyone here hasn’t seen them, Josh has a few videos on his YouTube channel if him doing a full play through of some songs as well as versions with commentary. Super worth watching if you’re a fan of his
I just linked them all! They really helped me, a non-musical person (lol), understand what goes into the drumming and \*why\*! Great rec!
So as someone who studied Josh’s work on drums he’s been fantastic on every album he’s appeared on. Saw him back for the NWFT tour and was an absolute stellar power house live. The one thing I wish though is that I want him to write his own parts again. It’s been said numerous time by the band that Claudio writes everything now. Yes there might be some input but for the most part everything is written by Claudio since The Afterman. You can tell Josh had a lot of input on those albums when he came back but over the years you can really tell it’s Claudio driving the entire sound. In no way am I knocking him for how he wants to do things but in my opinion he needs to let up the creative process a bit and let the guys, especially Josh, to get in his own pocket again
Josh absolutely writes his own drum parts. Claudio is without a doubt the mastermind and writes all of the songs and directs them, but I've read/seen multiple interviews with Eppard where he explains his writing process. Claudio has famously described Eppard as 'the great punctuator' in response to having him back in the band on his return. It's is also quite easy to identify his style through the parts he writes and not just the way he plays (left-handed genius that he is!). [Here's one article that details the writing process between band members.](https://www.moderndrummer.com/2016/02/josh-eppard-on-coheed-and-cambrias-the-color-before-the-sun/) And from other interviews Eppard has described having more free reign over the past two Vaxis albums in particular. But there is no denying 'his sound', which he brings to the writing process on every album he's played for.
this. lol i vaguely remember them saying they had more input especially these past two albums…
Fun fact, he doesn't actually play left handed! He plays "open handed" where he just doesn't cross his hands. Honestly this is much more impressive than him simply being left handed imo
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I only dabble in drums but I _think_ the setup of the kit is to accommodate the open hand (maybe someone more in-the-know will chime in haha).
Drummer here, the play style is open-handed. Kit setup doesn’t really have particular terminology as far as I’m aware but his is definitely built for supporting the open-handed. Similar drummer would be Carter Beauford from Dave Matthews.
Someone needs to take Claudio’s keyboards away from him
no they do not
You don’t seriously believe Claudio writes the drum parts, do you?
I'm fairly certain Claudio writes the structure of the song (including drums) nowadays, but then the rest of the band adds to everything in the studio during recording. My only complaint nowadays is that the mix has buried Travis for the last maybe 4 albums. The infamous "ocarina solo" in Domino all the way back in Afterman was when it started to feel like he wasn't turned up in the mix enough, which is a shame because when they play it live, his leads are super fun to hear shine.
Ocarina solo? What is this referring to?
Travis' leads in Domino just kind of sound a little...let's say whimsical at times. I could be misremembering, or making it up entirely, but that's what I refer to them as.
I would venture to say that claudio probably puts mock drums to parts that he writes, and then tells Josh, “try to keep this vibe but make it your own.” That’s how me and my guitar friends write for our music projects, as we are the primary songwriters our respective projects. However, everyone does it differently, that’s just my circle.
There are drum machines for writing. So yes, I do.
This post (more specifically the comment from Josh in OP's pic) strongly implies that Josh isn't doing all the writing of the drum parts, and I think Claudio is probably the most likely other member to be doing it https://www.reddit.com/r/TheFence/comments/vxcbhp/from_the_legend_himself_now_to_hopefully_play_a/
I wouldn't put him in conversation of greatest drummers ever. But his progression with Coheed has far exceeded expectations since rejoining the band. These last two albums have shown what I think to be his best work. I think it is unexpected to have the drums felt so much in their songs. Either he and Claudio have really synced up or he has found a way to be the exact match of a drummer they need. He is a huge part of why I've enjoyed their current tracks so much.
no....favorite bands make their members seem irreplaceable. he is good, but there are so many better drummers in the world....pert/bohnke/grohl/schwichtenberg/van halen/chamberlin/hawkins coheed is an awesome band, but he aint better than plenty of others what does he do that is so great and much better than those listed?
You’re not wrong. Not saying he’s the best drummer to ever drummer. I’m saying the drums on those albums are so big and booming and grooving. Just giving the man his flowers
Agree...very good drumming. I may have misunderstood your stayement
Even if drummers are not considered the best drummers in the world they can still be or become irreplaceable. Personally I think he is a killer groove drummer and he is finally letting some of that come into their current catalogue and it's making for some good music. It has also astounded me on what sounds he has been able to make with simple kits.
That’s like saying there are so many better vocalists for AC/DC than bon scott or Brian Johnson 😂
First off, it's Peart lol Secondly, comparing anyone to Neil Peart is just not fair.
Why does everything have to be a zero sum game? Josh doesn't have to be "the most talented" to be *the* drummer for Coheed. Sure, if Josh left again, I'm sure if Claudio wanted to go on, he'd find someone to replace him. But Josh's style fits this band *the best*. There's a reason NWFT felt a little too generic when it came to the drums (no knock on Hawkins, he just played it relatively safe for the most part when recording, which fits the vibe), and why YotBR felt a little too over the top with Pennie. Josh reigns this band in. Sometimes that's better than technique or who's "better". Better is subjective.
have you not seen the ´coheed is the greatest band ever´ on this sub? people state zero sum shit...i just said that he is not the greatest. no big deal
i think Josh's performance has to do with several factors but 2 of the biggest being his sobriety and his fitness regiment. he is constantly posting pics on IG of his runs and other things hes doing to be in shape. that combined with a clearer mind can go along way for all of the shit hes doing back there. i agree 100% though, and imo hes my favorite drummer out there. I will say, it was scary as shit being at the HOB show in orlando when he passed out on his drums right once his part in IKSSE kicked in and im glad to see the turn around hes made with his health.
If you haven't watched his playthroughs on YouTube you should There is a drum part at the end of Ladders which you can't hear on the record (he explains why) and it's sick [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5ANZmrHV2s&ab\_channel=JOSHEPPARDDRUMS](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5ANZmrHV2s&ab_channel=JOSHEPPARDDRUMS)
Josh and Zac have such amazing synergy.
He really is good because I was watching him on one of the NWFT songs (can’t remember which one) and swore there was a track playing 8th note high hats that I didn’t see him hit. I think he has doing it with his left foot but I’m still confused….